Re: [LegacyUG] Research / General Notes

2016-07-11 Thread Steve Hayes
On 11 Jul 2016 at 13:44, R G Strong-genes wrote:

> That is not entirely true, SourceWriter can create a master source for 
> emails as 1. Grouped by correspondent or  2. by each email.  I use 
> sourcewriter for emails grouped by correspondent. You might want to take a
> look at: 7-Other records>E-mail>Grouped by correspondent.
> 
> I create a master source for the correspondent with their info then I use the
> email for the source detail. Russ

Thanks, I'll look out for that. 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Research / General Notes

2016-07-11 Thread Martha Graham

Hi Jenny,
Thanks for your thoughts.
I guess I did not make clear my concerns.
I know what and how to put information into events, what I did not know 
was how to use email notes, etc as sources.


Generally, I do not use the Source writer because it is just too much 
work. And I want the source of the data right under the information so 
there can never be any doubt where it came from - attaching stuff might 
get lost if I ever exit Legacy.


Appreciate you taking time to write.

Martha





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Re: [LegacyUG] Research / General Notes

2016-07-11 Thread Jenny M Benson

On 10-Jul-16 02:03 AM, Martha Graham wrote:

Good Afternoon,
The discussion on what happens to the three 'Note' sections has
encouraged me to dig deeper into finding exactly what I have put in the
Notes and where the info should really be.

Some of the Notes fall into the 'Research' Category and I have a handle
on what to do with those.
What bothers me right now and something I would like input on is the
info I have that tells me where I got information via email lists, and
direct communication with various cousins, etc.

Back in 1999 when Mail Lists were in vogue, a lot of us shared
information via them and also personal communication. Sharing sets of
files as well as gedcoms.

But, those bits and pieces wound up in General Notes because I had no
place else to put them. The info is, obviously, scattered among my
people. So, how do I preserve the original source of email addy and date
along with a brief explanation of what was sent?

If I create a general event such as 'Electronic Source' or 'Email
Communication' or something similar, will anyone know what it is 50
years from now? What about the date when I actually got the information?
For instance:
Abraham Adsit,
DOB: 3 Mar 1850, Conneaut, Crawford, PA
DOD: 9 Nov 1936, Pennsylvania

An event for the origin of the data on him and his ancestors was shared:
Abram Adsit, and ancestors courtesy of
Patricia M. Edgett - pedgett...@aol.com
13 Sep 1999
Pennsylvania
Conneaut, Crawford, PA

Thoughts?


You seem to be confusing Events with Sources.  If you have a letter or 
e-mail from someone, or you communicate via a mailing list, you may 
receive information about various different Events or Facts.  The 
e-mail, letter, message board or whatever is the Source.  If you use 
SourceWriter, there are templates for all these different types of 
Source which make it very easy to keep track and be consistent.


So you enter Abraham Adsit's date/place of birth and his date/place of 
death in the relevant fields and then you attach the Source which 
details who provided the information, when and how you received it and, 
if you wish, a full transcript of the original message and perhaps 
information about the reliability.  When I get information from someone 
in a letter or e-mail, for example, I add to the Source Comments 
information about the sender ("Fanny Adams is a direct descendant of Joe 
Bloggs, my 4th Gt Grandfather's brother".)


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Re: [LegacyUG] Research / General Notes

2016-07-11 Thread R G Strong-genes

Steve,
That is not entirely true, SourceWriter can create a master source for 
emails as 1. Grouped by correspondent or  2. by each email.  I use 
sourcewriter for emails grouped by correspondent. You might want to take a 
look at: 7-Other records>E-mail>Grouped by correspondent.


I create a master source for the correspondent with their info then I use 
the email for the source detail.

Russ

-Original Message- 
From: Steve Hayes

Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 5:43 AM
To: Martha Graham ; Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research / General Notes



I don't use Sourcewriter for correspondence, because I find it too
cumbersome. It tends to create a separate master source for each letter or
e-mail, and that just creates digital clutter.


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   Fax: 086-548-2525





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Re: [LegacyUG] Research / General Notes

2016-07-10 Thread Steve Hayes
On 10 Jul 2016 at 1:03, Martha Graham wrote:

> Back in 1999 when Mail Lists were in vogue, a lot of us shared 
> information via them and also personal communication. Sharing sets of 
> files as well as gedcoms.
> 
> But, those bits and pieces wound up in General Notes because I had no 
> place else to put them. The info is, obviously, scattered among my 
> people. So, how do I preserve the original source of email addy and date along
> with a brief explanation of what was sent?

E-mails I classify as letters. 

I record correspondence with a particular person, whether by e-maul, snail 
mail or mailing list (a variant of e-mail) as one master source, as 
"Correspondence with Name". In the detail section I put the date of the 
letter or e-mail, and put relevant quotes in the "Detail Test".When I file 
them under dates, the date I put in the Detail section is always in 
-MM-DD format, which means they are sorted in date order when you look at 
the sources for a particular person.

I don't use Sourcewriter for correspondence, because I find it too 
cumbersome. It tends to create a separate master source for each letter or 
e-mail, and that just creates digital clutter. 

GEDCOMs I classify separately as Gedcoms, with the name of the person I 
received them from and the date of the Gedcom in the Master Source. In the 
detail section I put the name of the person and their ID number in the 
Gedcom.. 


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[LegacyUG] Research / General Notes

2016-07-09 Thread Martha Graham

Good Afternoon,
The discussion on what happens to the three 'Note' sections has 
encouraged me to dig deeper into finding exactly what I have put in the 
Notes and where the info should really be.


Some of the Notes fall into the 'Research' Category and I have a handle 
on what to do with those.
What bothers me right now and something I would like input on is the 
info I have that tells me where I got information via email lists, and 
direct communication with various cousins, etc.


Back in 1999 when Mail Lists were in vogue, a lot of us shared 
information via them and also personal communication. Sharing sets of 
files as well as gedcoms.


But, those bits and pieces wound up in General Notes because I had no 
place else to put them. The info is, obviously, scattered among my 
people. So, how do I preserve the original source of email addy and date 
along with a brief explanation of what was sent?


If I create a general event such as 'Electronic Source' or 'Email 
Communication' or something similar, will anyone know what it is 50 
years from now? What about the date when I actually got the information?

For instance:
Abraham Adsit,
DOB: 3 Mar 1850, Conneaut, Crawford, PA
DOD: 9 Nov 1936, Pennsylvania

An event for the origin of the data on him and his ancestors was shared:
Abram Adsit, and ancestors courtesy of
Patricia M. Edgett - pedgett...@aol.com
13 Sep 1999
Pennsylvania
Conneaut, Crawford, PA

Thoughts?

Martha
In Los Osos, CA


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