Re: [LegacyUG] Rookie mistake - how to cite?

2017-05-25 Thread Ed Ladendorf
Thanks Margaret. That will come in handy, but not for the records I have.
They came from mid 1850s German congregation churches in Chicago. But I'll
surely use your suggestion.

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Margaret Turner 
wrote:

> I would search FamilySearch, ancestry, eg. https://familysearch.org/wiki/
> en/Top_Genealogy_Websites_for_Finding_Ancestors_in_Germany f
> or the individuals to whom you have the sources attached.
> :)
> Margaret
>
>
> On 26 May 2017 at 01:02, Jenny M Benson  wrote:
>
>> On 25-May-17 03:26 PM, Ed Ladendorf wrote:
>>
>>>  1. Quite some time ago, I browsed many, many church records to find 4
>>> records pertaining to my tree. Browsing took many hours. They are
>>> written in German, and I can't read most of the information. When I
>>> found the records, I cropped the images heavily, only saving a copy
>>> of the records themselves. I did not record where I found them.
>>> Yesterday I spent an hour or so trying to find the records again, so
>>> I could properly cite them, but no luck. Obviously, the events did
>>> happen because I have the printed records. But if I can't find them
>>> online, surely another person would have a hard, if not impossible
>>> time finding them. Since some citing of records is better than none,
>>> how can / I cite those elusive records? They pertain to marriages
>>> and christenings./
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The first thing I would do is publish as much as you know in as many
>> places as possible - mailing lists, newsgroups, FB, blog etc - to see if
>> someone else can help you find the elusive records.  (I have just received
>> invaluable information which traced a relative by posting a request on a
>> genealogy newsgroup.)
>>
>> Failing finding the source of your printout, I would cite that printed
>> image as the Source, with explanation in the Source Comments.  If you use
>> SourceWriter You could adapt one of the "Church Record" templates, but I
>> think I'd be inclined to use one from "Photographs, Portraits & Sketches"
>> since what you have is, to all intents and purposes, a photograph (of a
>> record.)
>>
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>> http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Rookie mistake - how to cite?

2017-05-25 Thread Margaret Turner
I would search FamilySearch, ancestry, eg.
https://familysearch.org/wiki/en/Top_Genealogy_Websites_for_Finding_Ancestors_in_Germany
 f
or the individuals to whom you have the sources attached.
:)
Margaret


On 26 May 2017 at 01:02, Jenny M Benson  wrote:

> On 25-May-17 03:26 PM, Ed Ladendorf wrote:
>
>>  1. Quite some time ago, I browsed many, many church records to find 4
>> records pertaining to my tree. Browsing took many hours. They are
>> written in German, and I can't read most of the information. When I
>> found the records, I cropped the images heavily, only saving a copy
>> of the records themselves. I did not record where I found them.
>> Yesterday I spent an hour or so trying to find the records again, so
>> I could properly cite them, but no luck. Obviously, the events did
>> happen because I have the printed records. But if I can't find them
>> online, surely another person would have a hard, if not impossible
>> time finding them. Since some citing of records is better than none,
>> how can / I cite those elusive records? They pertain to marriages
>> and christenings./
>>
>>
>>
>> The first thing I would do is publish as much as you know in as many
> places as possible - mailing lists, newsgroups, FB, blog etc - to see if
> someone else can help you find the elusive records.  (I have just received
> invaluable information which traced a relative by posting a request on a
> genealogy newsgroup.)
>
> Failing finding the source of your printout, I would cite that printed
> image as the Source, with explanation in the Source Comments.  If you use
> SourceWriter You could adapt one of the "Church Record" templates, but I
> think I'd be inclined to use one from "Photographs, Portraits & Sketches"
> since what you have is, to all intents and purposes, a photograph (of a
> record.)
>
> --
> Jenny M Benson
> http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Rookie mistake - how to cite?

2017-05-25 Thread Ed Ladendorf
Thank you Jenny. Another problem I have is that the events took place in
Chicago, and all records except some church records (and other possible
private records) were destroyed by the great Chicago fire of 1871, making
it harder to find anything before that time period. This thread could be a
good lesson for newbies.

On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Jenny M Benson 
wrote:

> On 25-May-17 03:26 PM, Ed Ladendorf wrote:
>
>>  1. Quite some time ago, I browsed many, many church records to find 4
>> records pertaining to my tree. Browsing took many hours. They are
>> written in German, and I can't read most of the information. When I
>> found the records, I cropped the images heavily, only saving a copy
>> of the records themselves. I did not record where I found them.
>> Yesterday I spent an hour or so trying to find the records again, so
>> I could properly cite them, but no luck. Obviously, the events did
>> happen because I have the printed records. But if I can't find them
>> online, surely another person would have a hard, if not impossible
>> time finding them. Since some citing of records is better than none,
>> how can / I cite those elusive records? They pertain to marriages
>> and christenings./
>>
>>
>>
>> The first thing I would do is publish as much as you know in as many
> places as possible - mailing lists, newsgroups, FB, blog etc - to see if
> someone else can help you find the elusive records.  (I have just received
> invaluable information which traced a relative by posting a request on a
> genealogy newsgroup.)
>
> Failing finding the source of your printout, I would cite that printed
> image as the Source, with explanation in the Source Comments.  If you use
> SourceWriter You could adapt one of the "Church Record" templates, but I
> think I'd be inclined to use one from "Photographs, Portraits & Sketches"
> since what you have is, to all intents and purposes, a photograph (of a
> record.)
>
> --
> Jenny M Benson
> http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Rookie mistake - how to cite?

2017-05-25 Thread Jenny M Benson

On 25-May-17 03:26 PM, Ed Ladendorf wrote:

 1. Quite some time ago, I browsed many, many church records to find 4
records pertaining to my tree. Browsing took many hours. They are
written in German, and I can't read most of the information. When I
found the records, I cropped the images heavily, only saving a copy
of the records themselves. I did not record where I found them.
Yesterday I spent an hour or so trying to find the records again, so
I could properly cite them, but no luck. Obviously, the events did
happen because I have the printed records. But if I can't find them
online, surely another person would have a hard, if not impossible
time finding them. Since some citing of records is better than none,
how can / I cite those elusive records? They pertain to marriages
and christenings./



The first thing I would do is publish as much as you know in as many 
places as possible - mailing lists, newsgroups, FB, blog etc - to see if 
someone else can help you find the elusive records.  (I have just 
received invaluable information which traced a relative by posting a 
request on a genealogy newsgroup.)


Failing finding the source of your printout, I would cite that printed 
image as the Source, with explanation in the Source Comments.  If you 
use SourceWriter You could adapt one of the "Church Record" templates, 
but I think I'd be inclined to use one from "Photographs, Portraits & 
Sketches" since what you have is, to all intents and purposes, a 
photograph (of a record.)


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http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/

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[LegacyUG] Rookie mistake - how to cite?

2017-05-25 Thread Ed Ladendorf
   1. Quite some time ago, I browsed many, many church records to find 4
   records pertaining to my tree. Browsing took many hours. They are written
   in German, and I can't read most of the information. When I found the
   records, I cropped the images heavily, only saving a copy of the records
   themselves. I did not record where I found them. Yesterday I spent an hour
   or so trying to find the records again, so I could properly cite them, but
   no luck. Obviously, the events did happen because I have the printed
   records. But if I can't find them online, surely another person would have
   a hard, if not impossible time finding them. Since some citing of records
   is better than none, how can * I cite those elusive records? They
   pertain to marriages and christenings.*
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