Re: [LegacyUG] Running compact family file

2019-10-10 Thread Chris Hill

Hi

I would not run a Compact unless I was told that it was needed, 
which seems to be your case if Check/Repair asked you to do it. In that 
case, the report that Check/Repair produces might give an indication as 
to why. Your run times seem to be slow, but it would depend on the size 
of the file and your PC.


Just for a test I have duplicated my live database, currently 24676 
KB for 12000 people, and then compressed it. That only took a minute or 
so and reduced it to 23304 KB so it only got a 5% reduction.


Regards

Chris

-- Original Message --
From: "Ginny Vocelli" 
To: "Legacy User Group" 
Sent: 10/10/2019 02:28:43
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Running compact family file

Thanks for your advice, Chris.  I am such a novice at the ends and outs 
of Legacy, I panic when something weird happens.  I’ll stay away from 
Compact Family Records from now on.




Ginny



From: LegacyUserGroup  On 
Behalf Of Chris Hill

Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 5:38 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Running compact family file



Hi



That is good to hear. The Compact, ignore my earlier email, should not 
remove any information. All that it does is to compress the various 
tables to recover space that had been used by deleted entries.




Basically, Access never overwrites space that had been used by deleted 
records. It always just adds new data at the end.




I would not normally expect to use Compress unless I had been deleting 
a lot of records.




Regards

Chris

From my Motorola G6+



On Wed, 9 Oct 2019, 22:05 Ginny Vocelli,  wrote:

Whew!  The Compact Family File is done!  How changed are my files?  Is 
there a report I can run that will tell me what’s different?  Thanks.




Ginny Vocelli





From: LegacyUserGroup  On 
Behalf Of Virginia Vocelli

Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 4:45 PM
To:LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Running compact family file



I set this in motion after a Check and repair told me to. There was an 
error (the number of which I cannot remember).  The little blue circle 
has been spinning for nearly 30 minutes. A drop down box, half of 
which I can’t read, tells me this can be time consuming, and that 
terminating can be .what? That part is off the screen.


How long will this take? At the very top left corner Legacy (not 
responding.)


Thanks for any advice.

Ginny Vocelli

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Re: [LegacyUG] Running compact family file

2019-10-09 Thread Cathy Pinner

Ginny

Make sure you do File > File Maintenance > Check/Repair regularly.
It has a compact within it but I don't know if it is as extensive as the 
separate one.

It has many other elements that are vital to keeping your database healthy.
Databases need maintenance.

Cathy


Ginny Vocelli <mailto:gvoce...@comcast.net>
Thursday, 10 October 2019 9:28 AM

Thanks for your advice, Chris.  I am such a novice at the ends and 
outs of Legacy, I panic when something weird happens.  I’ll stay away 
from Compact Family Records from now on.


Ginny

*From:* LegacyUserGroup  *On 
Behalf Of *Chris Hill

*Sent:* Wednesday, October 9, 2019 5:38 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group 
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Running compact family file

Hi

That is good to hear. The Compact, ignore my earlier email, should not 
remove any information. All that it does is to compress the various 
tables to recover space that had been used by deleted entries.


Basically, Access never overwrites space that had been used by deleted 
records. It always just adds new data at the end.


I would not normally expect to use Compress unless I had been deleting 
a lot of records.


Regards

Chris

From my Motorola G6+

On Wed, 9 Oct 2019, 22:05 Ginny Vocelli, <mailto:gvoce...@comcast.net>> wrote:







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Re: [LegacyUG] Running compact family file

2019-10-09 Thread Ginny Vocelli
Thanks for your advice, Chris.  I am such a novice at the ends and outs of 
Legacy, I panic when something weird happens.  I’ll stay away from Compact 
Family Records from now on.

 

Ginny

 

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Chris Hill
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 5:38 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Running compact family file

 

Hi

 

That is good to hear. The Compact, ignore my earlier email, should not remove 
any information. All that it does is to compress the various tables to recover 
space that had been used by deleted entries. 

 

Basically, Access never overwrites space that had been used by deleted records. 
It always just adds new data at the end.

 

I would not normally expect to use Compress unless I had been deleting a lot of 
records.

 

Regards

Chris

>From my Motorola G6+

 

On Wed, 9 Oct 2019, 22:05 Ginny Vocelli, mailto:gvoce...@comcast.net> > wrote:

Whew!  The Compact Family File is done!  How changed are my files?  Is there a 
report I can run that will tell me what’s different?  Thanks.

 

Ginny Vocelli

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > On Behalf Of Virginia Vocelli
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 4:45 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com> 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Running compact family file

 

I set this in motion after a Check and repair told me to. There was an error 
(the number of which I cannot remember).  The little blue circle has been 
spinning for nearly 30 minutes. A drop down box, half of which I can’t read, 
tells me this can be time consuming, and that terminating can be .what? 
That part is off the screen. 

How long will this take? At the very top left corner Legacy (not responding.)

Thanks for any advice.

Ginny Vocelli

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Re: [LegacyUG] Running compact family file

2019-10-09 Thread Chris Hill
Hi

That is good to hear. The Compact, ignore my earlier email, should not
remove any information. All that it does is to compress the various tables
to recover space that had been used by deleted entries.

Basically, Access never overwrites space that had been used by deleted
records. It always just adds new data at the end.

I would not normally expect to use Compress unless I had been deleting a
lot of records.

Regards

Chris

>From my Motorola G6+

On Wed, 9 Oct 2019, 22:05 Ginny Vocelli,  wrote:

> Whew!  The Compact Family File is done!  How changed are my files?  Is
> there a report I can run that will tell me what’s different?  Thanks.
>
>
>
> Ginny Vocelli
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup  *On
> Behalf Of *Virginia Vocelli
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 9, 2019 4:45 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Running compact family file
>
>
>
> I set this in motion after a Check and repair told me to. There was an
> error (the number of which I cannot remember).  The little blue circle has
> been spinning for nearly 30 minutes. A drop down box, half of which I can’t
> read, tells me this can be time consuming, and that terminating can be
> .what? That part is off the screen.
>
> How long will this take? At the very top left corner Legacy (not
> responding.)
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> Ginny Vocelli
>
> Sent from Xfinity Connect App
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Re: [LegacyUG] Running compact family file

2019-10-09 Thread Chris Hill
Hi

This should only take a few minutes. If half of the dialog is missing then
you should be able to drag it back into vision. Then see if there is a
button waiting for a response.

Do you have a current backup, which you should always do before running
Check/Repair. If so, restore that and run the Check/Repair again. If you
get an error messages - write them down and then go to the Legacy support
site to see if it is a known issue. If not then raise an issue with them.

Regards

Chris

>From my Motorola G6+

On Wed, 9 Oct 2019, 21:46 Virginia Vocelli,  wrote:

> I set this in motion after a Check and repair told me to. There was an
> error (the number of which I cannot remember).  The little blue circle has
> been spinning for nearly 30 minutes. A drop down box, half of which I can’t
> read, tells me this can be time consuming, and that terminating can be
> .what? That part is off the screen.
>
> How long will this take? At the very top left corner Legacy (not
> responding.)
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> Ginny Vocelli
>
> Sent from Xfinity Connect App
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Re: [LegacyUG] Running compact family file

2019-10-09 Thread Ginny Vocelli
Whew!  The Compact Family File is done!  How changed are my files?  Is there a 
report I can run that will tell me what’s different?  Thanks.

 

Ginny Vocelli

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Virginia Vocelli
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 4:45 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Running compact family file

 

I set this in motion after a Check and repair told me to. There was an error 
(the number of which I cannot remember).  The little blue circle has been 
spinning for nearly 30 minutes. A drop down box, half of which I can’t read, 
tells me this can be time consuming, and that terminating can be .what? 
That part is off the screen. 

How long will this take? At the very top left corner Legacy (not responding.)

Thanks for any advice.

Ginny Vocelli

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[LegacyUG] Running compact family file

2019-10-09 Thread Virginia Vocelli
I set this in motion after a Check and repair told me to. There was an error 
(the number of which I cannot remember). The little blue circle has been 
spinning for nearly 30 minutes. A drop down box, half of which I can’t read, 
tells me this can be time consuming, and that terminating can be .what? 
That part is off the screen.

How long will this take? At the very top left corner Legacy (not responding.)

Thanks for any advice.

Ginny Vocelli

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