Re: [LegacyUG] War casualty
Constance, The standard phrase, "Tablet of the Missing", used by the American Battle Monuments Commission, does not convey much information. I have a first cousin who died 7 September 1944 ; "at sea", The Philippine Islands, about ten miles north of Sindangan Point, Mindanao. He is remembered at the Manila American Cemetery, which spans 152 acres, and contains 17,206 graves. The Tablets of the Missing, containing 36,285 names, are inscribed onrectangular limestone piers within two large semicircular structures on a wide terrace In front of the chapel. The Sicily-Rome American Cemetery and Memorial (77 acres), is dedicated to the fallen, from the campaign of Sicily to the Liberation of Rome. There is cenotaph honoring the dead, a burial ground with 7,860 headstones, and the names of 3,095 Missing are memorialized on the interior walls of the chapel. Pauline Cramer On 4/26/2012 6:41 AM, Oregon Rain wrote: > I entered Date of Death: 11 July 1943 (date on his death certificate) and 11 > Jul 1944 (Navy official declared his dead) in a Death event. 'Cause of > Death" Killed in Action". In the 'Burial Place' I entered "Buried at Sea off > the Southern Coast of Italy." I added a Burial Event showing he also has a'' > Tablet of the Missing at Sicily-Rome American Cemetery, Nettuno, Italy." > > Constance > > > -Original Message- > From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 12:01 AM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] War casualty > > On 2012/04/26 07:55, Tony Rolfe wrote: > >> How do you handle someone who was killed in action, has no known grave >> but is remembered officially on a Memorial Wall? >> >> I'm tempted to use the buried field, but there's no date for the burial >> (since it didn't happen) and although the location is a cemetery, he >> isn't buried there. > Presumably, the memorial gives a date, however approximate. So that would > allow > you to enter some abbreviated death details. His service record might allow > you > "fill in" more details. Also, what about creating an Event Type for > "Memorials" > and then adding a "Memorial" event? Lets you have notes and a picture. > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] War casualty
Thanks to everyone for the advice. I hadn't thought of a memorial event. It sounds a good way to handle it except that it would appear at the end of a report, far away from the death. My other thought would be to put the memorial location details in the buried location and add burial notes to explain what really happened. Like most things, I'll play around with it and see what works for me. I've now got lots of options I didn't have before. Thanks again Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] War casualty
Loved this thread. All new and useful info. Thanks so much!! --Paula From:Oregon Rain To:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Thu, April 26, 2012 8:42:57 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] War casualty I entered Date of Death: 11 July 1943 (date on his death certificate) and 11 Jul 1944 (Navy official declared his dead) in a Death event. 'Cause of Death" Killed in Action". In the 'Burial Place' I entered "Buried at Sea off the Southern Coast of Italy." I added a Burial Event showing he also has a'' Tablet of the Missing at Sicily-Rome American Cemetery, Nettuno, Italy." Constance -Original Message- From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 12:01 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] War casualty On 2012/04/26 07:55, Tony Rolfe wrote: > How do you handle someone who was killed in action, has no known grave > but is remembered officially on a Memorial Wall? > > I'm tempted to use the buried field, but there's no date for the burial > (since it didn't happen) and although the location is a cemetery, he > isn't buried there. Presumably, the memorial gives a date, however approximate. So that would allow you to enter some abbreviated death details. His service record might allow you "fill in" more details. Also, what about creating an Event Type for "Memorials" and then adding a "Memorial" event? Lets you have notes and a picture. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4959 - Release Date: 04/25/12 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] War casualty
I entered Date of Death: 11 July 1943 (date on his death certificate) and 11 Jul 1944 (Navy official declared his dead) in a Death event. 'Cause of Death" Killed in Action". In the 'Burial Place' I entered "Buried at Sea off the Southern Coast of Italy." I added a Burial Event showing he also has a'' Tablet of the Missing at Sicily-Rome American Cemetery, Nettuno, Italy." Constance -Original Message- From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 12:01 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] War casualty On 2012/04/26 07:55, Tony Rolfe wrote: > How do you handle someone who was killed in action, has no known grave > but is remembered officially on a Memorial Wall? > > I'm tempted to use the buried field, but there's no date for the burial > (since it didn't happen) and although the location is a cemetery, he > isn't buried there. Presumably, the memorial gives a date, however approximate. So that would allow you to enter some abbreviated death details. His service record might allow you "fill in" more details. Also, what about creating an Event Type for "Memorials" and then adding a "Memorial" event? Lets you have notes and a picture. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4959 - Release Date: 04/25/12 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] War casualty
I have a couple that were killed in action, bodies never recovered. I put the date of death and the date of burial the same (even though the body wasn't buried it was committed to the earth by means of being abandoned on the battlefield). I also fill out the cemetery info and in the notes I have something like this Memorial marker reads: John Q. Citizen Sgt US ARMY World War II 01 Jan 1920 - 15 Jun 1944 John was killed in action in Italy, body was not retrieved/returned. A memorial marker was placed in the Coaltown Cemetery as this is the cemetery where his parents, grandparents and siblings are buried. Michele -Original Message- From: Tony Rolfe [mailto:geneal...@gillandtony.com] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 1:56 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] War casualty I'm full of questions today. How do you handle someone who was killed in action, has no known grave but is remembered officially on a Memorial Wall? I'm tempted to use the buried field, but there's no date for the burial (since it didn't happen) and although the location is a cemetery, he isn't buried there. Advice would be appreciated Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] War casualty
Tony: I would use the cemetery but note that what you have is a Cenotaph, which is a monument to a deceased person, but not a place where that person is buried. Howland Davis -Original Message- From: Tony Rolfe To: LegacyUserGroup Sent: Thu, Apr 26, 2012 1:56 am Subject: [LegacyUG] War casualty I'm full of questions today. How do you handle someone who was killed in action, has no known grave ut is remembered officially on a Memorial Wall? I'm tempted to use the buried field, but there's no date for the burial since it didn't happen) and although the location is a cemetery, he sn't buried there. Advice would be appreciated Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] War casualty
On 26/04/2012 06:55, Tony Rolfe wrote: > How do you handle someone who was killed in action, has no known grave > but is remembered officially on a Memorial Wall? I leave the Buried field empty. Put what is known of the place of death into the appropriate field, put "Killed in action" as the Cause of Death and then add a Memorial Event, such as I have for anyone with a known gravestone or memorial, -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] War casualty
On 2012/04/26 07:55, Tony Rolfe wrote: > How do you handle someone who was killed in action, has no known grave > but is remembered officially on a Memorial Wall? > > I'm tempted to use the buried field, but there's no date for the burial > (since it didn't happen) and although the location is a cemetery, he > isn't buried there. Presumably, the memorial gives a date, however approximate. So that would allow you to enter some abbreviated death details. His service record might allow you "fill in" more details. Also, what about creating an Event Type for "Memorials" and then adding a "Memorial" event? Lets you have notes and a picture. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] War casualty
I think I would add a Burial Note, without adding a date or location. Or, since it isn't really a burial, maybe add a Death Note explaining circumstances of his death and details of the memorial wall. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Tony Rolfe [mailto:geneal...@gillandtony.com] Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2012 15:56 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] War casualty I'm full of questions today. How do you handle someone who was killed in action, has no known grave but is remembered officially on a Memorial Wall? I'm tempted to use the buried field, but there's no date for the burial (since it didn't happen) and although the location is a cemetery, he isn't buried there. Advice would be appreciated Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2411/4959 - Release Date: 04/25/12 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] War casualty
I have a couple just like this, what I did since one was K.I.A. off the coast of France during WW II, I used died in France, cause of death was K.I.A. WW II The other was Mekong Delta, Viet-Nam cause of death in this case was Shot Down and of course dates if known. Hope this helps, Gene -Original Message- From: Tony Rolfe Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 12:55 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] War casualty I'm full of questions today. How do you handle someone who was killed in action, has no known grave but is remembered officially on a Memorial Wall? I'm tempted to use the buried field, but there's no date for the burial (since it didn't happen) and although the location is a cemetery, he isn't buried there. Advice would be appreciated Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] War casualty
I'm full of questions today. How do you handle someone who was killed in action, has no known grave but is remembered officially on a Memorial Wall? I'm tempted to use the buried field, but there's no date for the burial (since it didn't happen) and although the location is a cemetery, he isn't buried there. Advice would be appreciated Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
