Re: [LegacyUG] Modifying Customize Family View Information
On 2011/08/06 01:09, Dick Nixon wrote: If you look in the archives, there are several discussions over the years about how BBD and M are handled differently than the user selected events. Some of us add those as user events and do not use the 'standard' ones. This has more to do with how and where the events, and their notes, appear in the family group sheet and other reports. They are not treated the same Or look closely at the chronology report.it does a better job of placing them. True. But why not allow the users to format the sentences associated with these events to their own choices? Surely a precedent has already been set with the partial wording options that can be applied to a marriage (Default and individual marriages). What's wrong with doing something similar for the other, Vital events? -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Modifying Customize Family View Information
On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 19:17:57 -0700, David davenm...@gmail.com wrote: How do I change the Legacy sentence structure of Birth, Baptism, Death, Burial location information from the default in to at? Example: (default) He died in Valley View Hospital, Anyplace, USA ie [inPlace] Example: (change to) He died at Valley View Hospital, Anyplace, USA ie [atPlace] See the Customize Family View Information screen for details. I haven't tried it, but you might want to play around with the language file that you are using. Of course, make a backup first. The language files have the .trn extension. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Modifying Customize Family View Information
On 2011/08/06 13:07, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: I haven't tried it, but you might want to play around with the language file that you are using. Of course, make a backup first. The language files have the .trn extension. The TRN files are just plain text and therefore open to being edited :-) Entries 331-345 appear to be the most relevant to the original subject. For example:- 331 == was born [BirthDatePlace] [BirthAddr],[BirthSources] [wasChrTerm] [ChrDatePlace] [ChrAddr],[ChrSources] died [DeathDatePlace] [DeathAddr] [DeathSources] [DeathAge], and was [;;buried::cremated] [BurialDatePlace] [BurialAddr].[BurialSources] Caveat Emptor! -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Modifying Customize Family View Information
Mike, Question: I don't know, but, If the TRN files were edited wouldn't a subsequent upgrade possibly replace the TRN files? Charles -Original Message- From: Mike Fry [mailto:mike...@iafrica.com] Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 7:48 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Modifying Customize Family View Information On 2011/08/06 13:07, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: I haven't tried it, but you might want to play around with the language file that you are using. Of course, make a backup first. The language files have the .trn extension. The TRN files are just plain text and therefore open to being edited :-) Entries 331-345 appear to be the most relevant to the original subject. For example:- 331 == was born [BirthDatePlace] [BirthAddr],[BirthSources] [wasChrTerm] [ChrDatePlace] [ChrAddr],[ChrSources] died [DeathDatePlace] [DeathAddr] [DeathSources] [DeathAge], and was [;;buried::cremated] [BurialDatePlace] [BurialAddr].[BurialSources] Caveat Emptor! -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Modifying Customize Family View Information
On 2011/08/06 15:47, Charles Apple wrote: Question: I don't know, but, If the TRN files were edited wouldn't a subsequent upgrade possibly replace the TRN files? Probably. But so long as an upgrade from the web only replaces older files, and your amended file is newer than the upgrade, it shouldn't get replaced. I tried another way. Opened the English (United Kingdom).TRN file with Notepad and then saved it as Gobbledygook.TRN. I was hoping that the bit of code which sets the language (Options-- Set language...) would show the new file. Then I could set the language to Gobbledygook and we're away! But, only a very limited selection of the languages show up in the list and Gobbledygook wasn't one of them. Please Sherry/Brian, why is that? There are plenty of other language files that aren't shown in the list? Has this got something to do with my local Windows Settings? -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Modifying Customize Family View Information
The .trn files are only used by the chart style reports, those where you have an option to change the language of the report when you create it. For narrative reports amending the .trn will have no effect. Setting the language in Legacy in options customize only allows those languages which are contained in the legacy7alt.lng file which is installed when you are using one of the international versions of Legacy. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! On 06/08/2011 10:16 AM, Mike Fry wrote: On 2011/08/06 15:47, Charles Apple wrote: Question: I don't know, but, If the TRN files were edited wouldn't a subsequent upgrade possibly replace the TRN files? Probably. But so long as an upgrade from the web only replaces older files, and your amended file is newer than the upgrade, it shouldn't get replaced. I tried another way. Opened the English (United Kingdom).TRN file with Notepad and then saved it as Gobbledygook.TRN. I was hoping that the bit of code which sets the language (Options-- Set language...) would show the new file. Then I could set the language to Gobbledygook and we're away! But, only a very limited selection of the languages show up in the list and Gobbledygook wasn't one of them. Please Sherry/Brian, why is that? There are plenty of other language files that aren't shown in the list? Has this got something to do with my local Windows Settings? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Modifying Customize Family View Information
On 2011/08/06 19:01, Brian/Support wrote: The .trn files are only used by the chart style reports, those where you have an option to change the language of the report when you create it. For narrative reports amending the .trn will have no effect. Setting the language in Legacy in options customize only allows those languages which are contained in the legacy7alt.lng file which is installed when you are using one of the international versions of Legacy. Thank you, Brian for the explanation. Guess I'll have to put the grandiose plans to one side for a few more years :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Modifying Customize Family View Information
On 2011/08/05 04:17, David wrote: How do I change the Legacy sentence structure of Birth, Baptism, Death, Burial location information from the default in to at? Example: (default) He died in Valley View Hospital, Anyplace, USA ie [inPlace] Example: (change to) He died at Valley View Hospital, Anyplace, USA ie [atPlace] See the Customize Family View Information screen for details. Not sure what you're after, but the only place you can alter the sentence structure for an event is via the Master Source Type List (View-- Master Lists...- Source Type). as you can see, the 'basic' Events aren't mentioned. Ask Legacy very nicely (pretty please) to make those Events available via the Master Source Type List. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Modifying Customize Family View Information
I'm not certain, but isn't it because born, died, buried are considered standard events and have been a part of the GEDCOM standard for many years? Whereas the other things are not standard because they don't apply to everyone and you have to dry the line somewhere.Not sure about the reasons, but taking a guess here. --Jerry On 8/5/2011 12:44 PM, David wrote: Dennis, They may be different, to Legacy, but they are the same to me. I guess I fail to see the difference between Born, Died, Buried events as compared to other Legacy events. However, I appreciate your . David On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com mailto:kowal...@iglou.com wrote: On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 09:14:07 -0700, David davenm...@gmail.com mailto:davenm...@gmail.com wrote: However I find that Born, Died, Buried etc. are missing. I wonder why Legacy chose to omit these events from the Definition List Screen. Because they are not quite the same as the other Event/Fact definitions. They are stored differently in the database. And because they are different there would be extra work involved in including these. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Modifying Customize Family View Information
If you look in the archives, there are several discussions over the years about how BBD and M are handled differently than the user selected events. Some of us add those as user events and do not use the 'standard' ones. This has more to do with how and where the events, and their notes, appear in the family group sheet and other reports. They are not treated the same Or look closely at the chronology report.it does a better job of placing them. Dick Nixon On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not certain, but isn't it because born, died, buried are considered standard events and have been a part of the GEDCOM standard for many years? Whereas the other things are not standard because they don't apply to everyone and you have to dry the line somewhere. Not sure ab Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
