Re: [LegacyUG] testing

[Brian/Support]

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Re: [LegacyUG] testing

[Charlene C]

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> 2016-03-14 17:37 GMT+01:00 Brian/Support :
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Re: [LegacyUG] testing

[Lis B. Jensen]

HI Please unsubsribe me from Legacy User Group  - I have tried from the
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2016-03-14 17:37 GMT+01:00 Brian/Support :

> I just checked and you are subscribed. Have you checked your spam folders
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> On 14/03/2016 11:48, Hannigan Family Research wrote:
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>> I have tried to use the link to get my password so that I can check my
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Re: [LegacyUG] testing

[Brian/Support]

I just checked and you are subscribed. Have you checked your spam 
folders for the password reminder message?


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On 14/03/2016 11:48, Hannigan Family Research wrote:

I have tried to use the link to get my password so that I can check my
settings.  I have done this twice and nothing has shown up in my email.
Does this mean that I have been unsubscribed from the list and am still
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Re: [LegacyUG] testing

[Hannigan Family Research]

I have tried to use the link to get my password so that I can check my 
settings.  I have done this twice and nothing has shown up in my email. 
Does this mean that I have been unsubscribed from the list and am still 
receiving emails?



On Monday 3 14 2016 9:28 AM, Brian/Support wrote:
Not all users will see their own posts to the list. gmail.com is an 
ISP that does not show the users own posts to mailing lists and 
perhaps your ISP xtra.co.nz is the same.


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On 14/03/2016 01:49, Gracie Burton wrote:

Testing
I have already sent an email to the list - it is nor showing up


Thanks Gracie








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Re: [LegacyUG] testing

[Brian/Support]

Not all users will see their own posts to the list. gmail.com is an ISP 
that does not show the users own posts to mailing lists and perhaps your 
ISP xtra.co.nz is the same.


There is a setting on your account page which will tell the list to send 
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On 14/03/2016 01:49, Gracie Burton wrote:

Testing
I have already sent an email to the list - it is nor showing up


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Re: [LegacyUG] testing

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On 23 Feb 2016 at 12:57, Sharon Blair wrote:

> just testing to see what happens 
> 
> 

What happened was that you sent a message to the Legacy user mailing list, 
and I was one of those who received it. I am replying to let you know what 
happened. 






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Re: [LegacyUG] testing

[linda hodges]

It's an email list...everyone got the email...maybe testing to see if they are 
subscribed...


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From: Linda Greethurst  
Date: 2/23/2016  3:35 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software 
 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] testing 

I got it - what are you testing?
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just testing to see what happens 
 
 

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Re: [LegacyUG] testing

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I got it - what are you testing?

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Re: [LegacyUG] testing

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Re: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages

[Jay Wilpolt]

Evert,  (re: Legacy Gedcoms imported to TNG)

I have a mod that is not yet publicly available that makes it easier for me
to import a gedcom with many media links, by 'forcing' the media into
collections based on folder names and structure.
Anything in the "Document" folder is a Document
anything in the "Census" folder is a Census
anything in the "Photo" folder is a Photo.

The collection Name must exactly match the folder name.
This way I do not have to "convert" the many media items into their proper
collections after a gedcom import.

It also has some other functions which need to be stripped out before it
would be useful to all.

Let me know if that would help you and we can email direct.

Hope that helps

Jay








On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 11:48 PM, Evert van Dijken 
wrote:

> John,
> Could you give an example of a TNG mod that makes it easier to import
> legacy gedcoms? I couldn't find any on the wiki page:
> http://tng.lythgoes.net/wiki/index.php/Category:Mods_for_TNG_v10
> Also looked for gedcom in previous builds. Could you give a direct link?
> Evert
>
> 2015-04-15 8:04 GMT+02:00 John Lisle :
>
>> Stuart,
>>
>> You point out an import issue with TNG and
>> webtrees. The product source for both is
>> available for users to inspect and edit.
>>
>> As a programmer, early on I made a number of mods
>> to TNG and soon discovered that I needed to spend
>> too much time each new update to TNG to
>> re-develop those mods for the new release.
>>
>> A couple of years ago, TNG introduced something
>> they call the mod manager. This is a way to
>> create a mod and then have TNG install it. There
>> is now a large catalog of these mods available,
>> most of which need to be tweaked each time an
>> update is prepared. Some of these mods were
>> developed specifically to make it easier to
>> improve how Legacy Gedcoms are imported.
>>
>> Does webtrees have a similar facility?
>>
>> However, once you lock yourself into some of
>> these mods, you may find that you will need help
>> if the developer is no longer maintaining them.
>>
>> john.
>>
>> At 09:00 PM 4/14/2015, Stuart Gregory wrote:
>> >Hi Barton, John and other interested people
>> >
>> >Happy to provide the link but I would like to make a couple of comments.
>> >
>> >I am currently not using the latest version of
>> >webtrees. One of the reasons for this is that I
>> >have made some minor modifications to the
>> >underlying PHP code and for me to upgrade
>> >requires a little work on my part. I host the
>> >site on my own web server which is located under
>> >my desk in my home and apart from some minor
>> >problems (bugs) there is no pressure for me to upgrade. The link to my
>> site is:
>> >
>> >http://stuart.scss.dyndns.info/FamilyTree/
>> >
>> >If you are seriously considering making your
>> >Legacy data available on-line, you should look
>> >at webtrees more closely. A number of the
>> >developers of webtrees offer hosting services
>> >(for a fee), but they all provide good support.
>> >The software is open source and therefore free.
>> >I would recommend that you have a look at the webtrees site here:
>> >
>> >http://www.webtrees.net/index.php/en/
>> >
>> >If you visit this site you will find links to
>> >various other sites using webtrees. There are
>> >different modules available, some of which
>> >radically change the look of the site, but the
>> >underlying software and data remains the same.
>> >That is, some of the developers have created
>> >their own CSS files to present the same information but in a different
>> format.
>> >
>> >Some final comments.  As has already been
>> >explained in an earlier post. Legacy creates
>> >static web pages and for me, this means
>> >thousands of files would need to be uploaded to
>> >the web server each time I need to update the
>> >web site. Webtrees allows me to enter data
>> >directly on my web site and that data is
>> >immediately available for everyone to see.
>> >
>> >Comments regarding the chance of losing data
>> >when using TNG or webtrees is a valid comment.
>> >But both of these products provide safeguards.
>> >One safeguard is for you to implement a setting
>> >so that you, as administrator of the site, are
>> >the only person who can approve changes or
>> >additions to the data. There is no loss 

Re: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages

[John Lisle]

. In

>fact tools are provided to enhance the search engine
function.

>

>Hope this is of value to you.

>

>Stuart

>

>-Original Message-

>From: BARTON LEWIS
[
mailto:bartonle...@optonline.net]

>Sent: Wednesday, 15 April 2015 12:23 AM

>To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com

>Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages

>

>Stuart, is it possible to see a tree generated by wbtrees -
yours, perhaps?

>

>Thanks,

>

>Barton

>

>

>  On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 06:16 AM, Stuart Gregory
wrote:

>

>  > For Barton, John and others interested,

> >

> > The open source PHPGedview has not been actively supported
for a

> > number of years since the main developer and a lot of
others moved to

> > create webtrees. I would definitely not recommend using
PHPGedview.

> > Webtrees is open source and therefore free, unlike TNG (The
Next

> > Generation). I have been a user of Legacy and webtrees for
many years

> > and PHPGedview for several years prior to moving to
webtrees.

> >

> > For many years my webtrees site has been my prime database
and I

> > occasionally export a Gedcom from my site and create a new
Legacy .fdb

> > file so as to create reports that aren't available using
webtrees.

> > Although I back up my MySQL database every night, creating
a new

> > Legacy .fdb is another form of backup.

> >

> > Stuart

> >

> > -Original Message-

> > From: John Lisle
[
mailto:leg...@johnlisle.com]

> > Sent: Tuesday, 14 April 2015 1:39 PM

> > To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com

> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages

> >

> > Barton,

> >

> > Two basic types of family tree sites exist: static pages
and dynamic

> > pages.

> >

> > Static pages means you create all of the pages you wish to
upload to

> > whatever hosting service you wish to use. After you create
the pages

> > on your PC; you then have to upload all of the pages by FTP
(or some

> > similar tool) to your hosting service. You may wish to
create some

> > pages as home pages to tell your story. The disadvantage of
this

> > technique is that it does not scale well.

> > As the size of your family file gets bigger, you have more
and more

> > pages. Further, many of them will be small and, as a
result, consume

> > large amounts of hosting space.

> >

> > In the late 1990s, a program was created called IGM by
Randy Winch.

> > The idea behind IGM was that you uploaded your Gedcom file
to your

> > hosting service along with the IGM software and had IGM
process your

> > Gedcom and allow you to have IGM create your web pages
dynamically as

> > visitors requested them. Randy enhanced IGM for RootsWeb
and that is

> > what RootsWeb's WorldConnect service is using.

> >

> > In the early 2000s, two software products were created to
take the IGM

> > experience to a higher level. They have the limitation that
the

> > hosting service has to support php scripting MySQL
databases that not

> > all "free" or cable company hosting provides.
They also expect the

> > user to have, or have access to, some basic webmastering
skills. Both

> > require a quality hosting service and for you to acquire a
domain name

> > for your site.

> >

> > One is the OpenSource product phpGedView. This has the
advantage that

> > it is free. It is also slow.

> >

> > The other is the commercial product TNG. License cost is
minor, and

> > based on personal experience, the visitor experience is far
superior

> > and the customization tools provided by the vendor are
effective and

> > fairly easy to use. Further, it is the closest in data
model to

> > Legacy. Not identical, but most of your Legacy data can be
imported

> > into TNG and used as you would expect, including media and
mapping.

> >

> > In many respects, all of the cloud based genealogy
programs, including

> > Ancestry Trees, are derivative of these ideas.

> >

> > To understand any of these dynamic solutions, think of them
like you

> > think of importing a Gedcom into Legacy. You import the
Gedcom and

> > Legacy/TNG/WorldConnect/etc. load your data from the
Gedcom, as best

> > as they can, into the programs database so that you can
explore, and

> > in some cases like TNG, edit your data using the program as
a

> > genealogy program.

> >

> > --> I have at times edited my TNG family file

> > directly when a visitor pointed out a problem that needed
immediate

> > correction; however, normally, for me, corrections come
when I update

> >

Re: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages

[Evert van Dijken]

John,
Could you give an example of a TNG mod that makes it easier to import
legacy gedcoms? I couldn't find any on the wiki page:
http://tng.lythgoes.net/wiki/index.php/Category:Mods_for_TNG_v10
Also looked for gedcom in previous builds. Could you give a direct link?
Evert

2015-04-15 8:04 GMT+02:00 John Lisle :

> Stuart,
>
> You point out an import issue with TNG and
> webtrees. The product source for both is
> available for users to inspect and edit.
>
> As a programmer, early on I made a number of mods
> to TNG and soon discovered that I needed to spend
> too much time each new update to TNG to
> re-develop those mods for the new release.
>
> A couple of years ago, TNG introduced something
> they call the mod manager. This is a way to
> create a mod and then have TNG install it. There
> is now a large catalog of these mods available,
> most of which need to be tweaked each time an
> update is prepared. Some of these mods were
> developed specifically to make it easier to
> improve how Legacy Gedcoms are imported.
>
> Does webtrees have a similar facility?
>
> However, once you lock yourself into some of
> these mods, you may find that you will need help
> if the developer is no longer maintaining them.
>
> john.
>
> At 09:00 PM 4/14/2015, Stuart Gregory wrote:
> >Hi Barton, John and other interested people
> >
> >Happy to provide the link but I would like to make a couple of comments.
> >
> >I am currently not using the latest version of
> >webtrees. One of the reasons for this is that I
> >have made some minor modifications to the
> >underlying PHP code and for me to upgrade
> >requires a little work on my part. I host the
> >site on my own web server which is located under
> >my desk in my home and apart from some minor
> >problems (bugs) there is no pressure for me to upgrade. The link to my
> site is:
> >
> >http://stuart.scss.dyndns.info/FamilyTree/
> >
> >If you are seriously considering making your
> >Legacy data available on-line, you should look
> >at webtrees more closely. A number of the
> >developers of webtrees offer hosting services
> >(for a fee), but they all provide good support.
> >The software is open source and therefore free.
> >I would recommend that you have a look at the webtrees site here:
> >
> >http://www.webtrees.net/index.php/en/
> >
> >If you visit this site you will find links to
> >various other sites using webtrees. There are
> >different modules available, some of which
> >radically change the look of the site, but the
> >underlying software and data remains the same.
> >That is, some of the developers have created
> >their own CSS files to present the same information but in a different
> format.
> >
> >Some final comments.  As has already been
> >explained in an earlier post. Legacy creates
> >static web pages and for me, this means
> >thousands of files would need to be uploaded to
> >the web server each time I need to update the
> >web site. Webtrees allows me to enter data
> >directly on my web site and that data is
> >immediately available for everyone to see.
> >
> >Comments regarding the chance of losing data
> >when using TNG or webtrees is a valid comment.
> >But both of these products provide safeguards.
> >One safeguard is for you to implement a setting
> >so that you, as administrator of the site, are
> >the only person who can approve changes or
> >additions to the data. There is no loss of value
> >of having a search engine document your site. In
> >fact tools are provided to enhance the search engine function.
> >
> >Hope this is of value to you.
> >
> >Stuart
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: BARTON LEWIS [mailto:bartonle...@optonline.net]
> >Sent: Wednesday, 15 April 2015 12:23 AM
> >To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> >Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages
> >
> >Stuart, is it possible to see a tree generated by wbtrees - yours,
> perhaps?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Barton
> >
> >
> >  On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 06:16 AM, Stuart Gregory wrote:
> >
> >  > For Barton, John and others interested,
> > >
> > > The open source PHPGedview has not been actively supported for a
> > > number of years since the main developer and a lot of others moved to
> > > create webtrees. I would definitely not recommend using PHPGedview.
> > > Webtrees is open source and therefore free, unlike TNG (The Next
> > > Generation). I have been a user of Legacy and webtree

RE: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages

[John Lisle]

Stuart,

You point out an import issue with TNG and
webtrees. The product source for both is
available for users to inspect and edit.

As a programmer, early on I made a number of mods
to TNG and soon discovered that I needed to spend
too much time each new update to TNG to
re-develop those mods for the new release.

A couple of years ago, TNG introduced something
they call the mod manager. This is a way to
create a mod and then have TNG install it. There
is now a large catalog of these mods available,
most of which need to be tweaked each time an
update is prepared. Some of these mods were
developed specifically to make it easier to
improve how Legacy Gedcoms are imported.

Does webtrees have a similar facility?

However, once you lock yourself into some of
these mods, you may find that you will need help
if the developer is no longer maintaining them.

john.

At 09:00 PM 4/14/2015, Stuart Gregory wrote:
>Hi Barton, John and other interested people
>
>Happy to provide the link but I would like to make a couple of comments.
>
>I am currently not using the latest version of
>webtrees. One of the reasons for this is that I
>have made some minor modifications to the
>underlying PHP code and for me to upgrade
>requires a little work on my part. I host the
>site on my own web server which is located under
>my desk in my home and apart from some minor
>problems (bugs) there is no pressure for me to upgrade. The link to my site is:
>
>http://stuart.scss.dyndns.info/FamilyTree/
>
>If you are seriously considering making your
>Legacy data available on-line, you should look
>at webtrees more closely. A number of the
>developers of webtrees offer hosting services
>(for a fee), but they all provide good support.
>The software is open source and therefore free.
>I would recommend that you have a look at the webtrees site here:
>
>http://www.webtrees.net/index.php/en/
>
>If you visit this site you will find links to
>various other sites using webtrees. There are
>different modules available, some of which
>radically change the look of the site, but the
>underlying software and data remains the same.
>That is, some of the developers have created
>their own CSS files to present the same information but in a different format.
>
>Some final comments.  As has already been
>explained in an earlier post. Legacy creates
>static web pages and for me, this means
>thousands of files would need to be uploaded to
>the web server each time I need to update the
>web site. Webtrees allows me to enter data
>directly on my web site and that data is
>immediately available for everyone to see.
>
>Comments regarding the chance of losing data
>when using TNG or webtrees is a valid comment.
>But both of these products provide safeguards.
>One safeguard is for you to implement a setting
>so that you, as administrator of the site, are
>the only person who can approve changes or
>additions to the data. There is no loss of value
>of having a search engine document your site. In
>fact tools are provided to enhance the search engine function.
>
>Hope this is of value to you.
>
>Stuart
>
>-----Original Message-
>From: BARTON LEWIS [mailto:bartonle...@optonline.net]
>Sent: Wednesday, 15 April 2015 12:23 AM
>To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages
>
>Stuart, is it possible to see a tree generated by wbtrees - yours, perhaps?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Barton
>
>
>  On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 06:16 AM, Stuart Gregory wrote:
>
>  > For Barton, John and others interested,
> >
> > The open source PHPGedview has not been actively supported for a
> > number of years since the main developer and a lot of others moved to
> > create webtrees. I would definitely not recommend using PHPGedview.
> > Webtrees is open source and therefore free, unlike TNG (The Next
> > Generation). I have been a user of Legacy and webtrees for many years
> > and PHPGedview for several years prior to moving to webtrees.
> >
> > For many years my webtrees site has been my prime database and I
> > occasionally export a Gedcom from my site and create a new Legacy .fdb
> > file so as to create reports that aren't available using webtrees.
> > Although I back up my MySQL database every night, creating a new
> > Legacy .fdb is another form of backup.
> >
> > Stuart
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Lisle [mailto:leg...@johnlisle.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 14 April 2015 1:39 PM
> > To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages
> >
> > Barton,
> >
> > Two basic types of family tree sites exist: static pages and dynamic
> > pag

RE: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages

[Barton Lewis]

Thank you, Stuart.  Very helpful and informative.

Barton

-Original Message-
From: Stuart Gregory [mailto:stu...@scss.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 9:01 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages

Hi Barton, John and other interested people

Happy to provide the link but I would like to make a couple of comments.

I am currently not using the latest version of webtrees. One of the reasons for 
this is that I have made some minor modifications to the underlying PHP code 
and for me to upgrade requires a little work on my part. I host the site on my 
own web server which is located under my desk in my home and apart from some 
minor problems (bugs) there is no pressure for me to upgrade. The link to my 
site is:

http://stuart.scss.dyndns.info/FamilyTree/

If you are seriously considering making your Legacy data available on-line, you 
should look at webtrees more closely. A number of the developers of webtrees 
offer hosting services (for a fee), but they all provide good support. The 
software is open source and therefore free. I would recommend that you have a 
look at the webtrees site here:

http://www.webtrees.net/index.php/en/

If you visit this site you will find links to various other sites using 
webtrees. There are different modules available, some of which radically change 
the look of the site, but the underlying software and data remains the same. 
That is, some of the developers have created their own CSS files to present the 
same information but in a different format.

Some final comments.  As has already been explained in an earlier post. Legacy 
creates static web pages and for me, this means thousands of files would need 
to be uploaded to the web server each time I need to update the web site. 
Webtrees allows me to enter data directly on my web site and that data is 
immediately available for everyone to see.

Comments regarding the chance of losing data when using TNG or webtrees is a 
valid comment. But both of these products provide safeguards. One safeguard is 
for you to implement a setting so that you, as administrator of the site, are 
the only person who can approve changes or additions to the data. There is no 
loss of value of having a search engine document your site. In fact tools are 
provided to enhance the search engine function.

Hope this is of value to you.

Stuart







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RE: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages

[Stuart Gregory]

Hi Barton, John and other interested people

Happy to provide the link but I would like to make a couple of comments.

I am currently not using the latest version of webtrees. One of the reasons for 
this is that I have made some minor modifications to the underlying PHP code 
and for me to upgrade requires a little work on my part. I host the site on my 
own web server which is located under my desk in my home and apart from some 
minor problems (bugs) there is no pressure for me to upgrade. The link to my 
site is:

http://stuart.scss.dyndns.info/FamilyTree/

If you are seriously considering making your Legacy data available on-line, you 
should look at webtrees more closely. A number of the developers of webtrees 
offer hosting services (for a fee), but they all provide good support. The 
software is open source and therefore free. I would recommend that you have a 
look at the webtrees site here:

http://www.webtrees.net/index.php/en/

If you visit this site you will find links to various other sites using 
webtrees. There are different modules available, some of which radically change 
the look of the site, but the underlying software and data remains the same. 
That is, some of the developers have created their own CSS files to present the 
same information but in a different format.

Some final comments.  As has already been explained in an earlier post. Legacy 
creates static web pages and for me, this means thousands of files would need 
to be uploaded to the web server each time I need to update the web site. 
Webtrees allows me to enter data directly on my web site and that data is 
immediately available for everyone to see.

Comments regarding the chance of losing data when using TNG or webtrees is a 
valid comment. But both of these products provide safeguards. One safeguard is 
for you to implement a setting so that you, as administrator of the site, are 
the only person who can approve changes or additions to the data. There is no 
loss of value of having a search engine document your site. In fact tools are 
provided to enhance the search engine function.

Hope this is of value to you.

Stuart

-Original Message-
From: BARTON LEWIS [mailto:bartonle...@optonline.net]
Sent: Wednesday, 15 April 2015 12:23 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages

Stuart, is it possible to see a tree generated by wbtrees - yours, perhaps?

Thanks,

Barton


 On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 06:16 AM, Stuart Gregory wrote:

 > For Barton, John and others interested,
>
> The open source PHPGedview has not been actively supported for a
> number of years since the main developer and a lot of others moved to
> create webtrees. I would definitely not recommend using PHPGedview.
> Webtrees is open source and therefore free, unlike TNG (The Next
> Generation). I have been a user of Legacy and webtrees for many years
> and PHPGedview for several years prior to moving to webtrees.
>
> For many years my webtrees site has been my prime database and I
> occasionally export a Gedcom from my site and create a new Legacy .fdb
> file so as to create reports that aren't available using webtrees.
> Although I back up my MySQL database every night, creating a new
> Legacy .fdb is another form of backup.
>
> Stuart
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Lisle [mailto:leg...@johnlisle.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 14 April 2015 1:39 PM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages
>
> Barton,
>
> Two basic types of family tree sites exist: static pages and dynamic
> pages.
>
> Static pages means you create all of the pages you wish to upload to
> whatever hosting service you wish to use. After you create the pages
> on your PC; you then have to upload all of the pages by FTP (or some
> similar tool) to your hosting service. You may wish to create some
> pages as home pages to tell your story. The disadvantage of this
> technique is that it does not scale well.
> As the size of your family file gets bigger, you have more and more
> pages. Further, many of them will be small and, as a result, consume
> large amounts of hosting space.
>
> In the late 1990s, a program was created called IGM by Randy Winch.
> The idea behind IGM was that you uploaded your Gedcom file to your
> hosting service along with the IGM software and had IGM process your
> Gedcom and allow you to have IGM create your web pages dynamically as
> visitors requested them. Randy enhanced IGM for RootsWeb and that is
> what RootsWeb's WorldConnect service is using.
>
> In the early 2000s, two software products were created to take the IGM
> experience to a higher level. They have the limitation that the
> hosting service has to support php scripting MySQL databases that not
> all "free" or cable company hosting provides

Re: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages

[BARTON LEWIS]

Thanks, Margaret, I am seeing that now on some of the pages.
 
Barton

 
 
 
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 04:54 PM, Margaret Turner wrote:
 
 
With regard to sources and tng. 
1. If any event is sourced, then they have a footnote suffix, 
2.These numbered sources are listed at the bottom of a person's page


http://turnermob.com/getperson.php?personID=I245&tree=turner

(I use Legacy 7, basic sources and my reserach dates from late 1997 so I
many sources are not in the Mills "Evidence Explained" 
http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2013/07/legacy-family-tree-8-revealed-sources.html

http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=EV2



PS I use Legacy as my database, upload gedcom to tng, and customised the
tng-suppled templates.
:)
Margaret

On 15 April 2015 at 06:04, BARTON LEWIS mailto:bartonle...@optonline.net> > wrote:
After looking over many pages at TNG, an objection I have is that

"Sources" is a separate page that is unlinked to any other.  If you

upload your GEDCOM to TNG, what happens to all your sources?  Do they

become separated from the events they document, or are they transferred

over at all?



I envision using my website to document a line one at a time, uploading

all the original source documentation or abstracts from published books,

etc.  I would like to combine a narrative with some descendant data, but

probably not all.  I liked Pat Hickin's tree at wikitree for this

reason, and that the sources were all displayed as footnotes and so

easily seen in context with the events they documented. 



Barton 


 

 

 On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 02:33 PM, John Lisle wrote:

 

 > Barton,

>

> Although WC and FS do not (easily) take media,

> they are worthwhile as places to archive your

> genealogy that also makes your research available to different

> audiences.

>

> One of my issues with using Cable company for web

> site (or email address) is that you might drop

> your cable company and then lose your site. If

> you are using TNG or webtrees or some other tool

> with collaborative ability, you could lose data

> and you might also lose the value of having a search engine document

> your site.

>

> In general, Comcast and that ilk does not support

> PHP and MySQL sites nor sites as large as you

> will probably want, as soon as you start adding

> media. :-) They may be restricted to various size

> or bandwidth limits. (As an aside, some folks

> have mentioned hosting services that offer

> unlimited space and bandwidth. Every one of them

> have other limits, usually CPU usage or the like

> and tend to be quite cruel in deciding to kick

> you off if you hit one of their hidden limits.

>

> Look for a reputable hosting service that has 24/7 support.

>

> john.

>

> At 11:32 AM 4/14/2015, BARTON LEWIS wrote:

>> John, thank you for the informative background.  I think I would not

>> want to go with WorldConnect or FamilySearch as I want to be able to

>> display media.  So I have been viewing the web page links at TNG and

>> think that's the way I want to go.  My only concern is that by

>> using my

>> cable compnay as my website host I may run into problems if there is

>> some kind of incompatability with using TNGÂ -- but I don't know if

>> that's an issue.  I guess if it could be, I will only find out by

>> trying

>> it.  And if it does prove to be an issue, I could take my domain

>> somewhere else to be hosted.  Does all of this sound

>> reasonable/accurate?

>>

>> Thanks,

>>

>> Barton

>> Â

>> Â

>> Â On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 01:38 AM, John Lisle wrote:

>> Â


>> Â > Barton,


>>>

>>> Two basic types of family tree sites exist: static pages and dynamic

>>> pages.

>>>

>>> Static pages means you create all of the pages

>>> you wish to upload to whatever hosting service

>>> you wish to use. After you create the pages on

>>> your PC; you then have to upload all of the pages

>>> by FTP (or some similar tool) to your hosting

>>> service. You may wish to create some pages as

>>> home pages to tell your story. The disadvantage

>>> of this technique is that it does not scale well.

>>> As the size of your family file gets bigger, you

>>> have more and more pages. Further, many of them

>>> will be small and, as a result, consume large amounts of hosting

>>> space.

>>>

>>> In the late 1990s, a program was created called

>>> IGM by Randy Winch. The idea behind IGM was that

>>> you uploaded your Gedcom file to your hosting

>>> service along with the IGM software and had IGM

>>> process your Gedcom and allow you to have IGM

>>> create your web pages dynamically as visitors

>>> requested them. Randy enhanced IGM for RootsWeb

>>> and that is what RootsWeb's WorldConnect service is using.

Re: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages

[Margaret Turner]

With regard to sources and tng.
1. If any event is sourced, then they have a footnote suffix,
2.These numbered sources are listed at the bottom of a person's page

http://turnermob.com/getperson.php?personID=I245&tree=turner
(I use Legacy 7, basic sources and my reserach dates from late 1997 so I
many sources are not in the Mills "Evidence Explained"
http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2013/07/legacy-family-tree-8-revealed-sources.html
http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=EV2

PS I use Legacy as my database, upload gedcom to tng, and customised the
tng-suppled templates.
:)
Margaret

On 15 April 2015 at 06:04, BARTON LEWIS  wrote:

> After looking over many pages at TNG, an objection I have is that
> "Sources" is a separate page that is unlinked to any other.  If you
> upload your GEDCOM to TNG, what happens to all your sources?  Do they
> become separated from the events they document, or are they transferred
> over at all?
>
> I envision using my website to document a line one at a time, uploading
> all the original source documentation or abstracts from published books,
> etc.  I would like to combine a narrative with some descendant data, but
> probably not all.  I liked Pat Hickin's tree at wikitree for this
> reason, and that the sources were all displayed as footnotes and so
> easily seen in context with the events they documented.
>
> Barton
>
>
>  On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 02:33 PM, John Lisle wrote:
>
>  > Barton,
> >
> > Although WC and FS do not (easily) take media,
> > they are worthwhile as places to archive your
> > genealogy that also makes your research available to different
> > audiences.
> >
> > One of my issues with using Cable company for web
> > site (or email address) is that you might drop
> > your cable company and then lose your site. If
> > you are using TNG or webtrees or some other tool
> > with collaborative ability, you could lose data
> > and you might also lose the value of having a search engine document
> > your site.
> >
> > In general, Comcast and that ilk does not support
> > PHP and MySQL sites nor sites as large as you
> > will probably want, as soon as you start adding
> > media. :-) They may be restricted to various size
> > or bandwidth limits. (As an aside, some folks
> > have mentioned hosting services that offer
> > unlimited space and bandwidth. Every one of them
> > have other limits, usually CPU usage or the like
> > and tend to be quite cruel in deciding to kick
> > you off if you hit one of their hidden limits.
> >
> > Look for a reputable hosting service that has 24/7 support.
> >
> > john.
> >
> > At 11:32 AM 4/14/2015, BARTON LEWIS wrote:
> >> John, thank you for the informative background.  I think I would not
> >> want to go with WorldConnect or FamilySearch as I want to be able to
> >> display media.  So I have been viewing the web page links at TNG and
> >> think that's the way I want to go.  My only concern is that by
> >> using my
> >> cable compnay as my website host I may run into problems if there is
> >> some kind of incompatability with using TNGÂ -- but I don't know if
> >> that's an issue.  I guess if it could be, I will only find out by
> >> trying
> >> it.  And if it does prove to be an issue, I could take my domain
> >> somewhere else to be hosted.  Does all of this sound
> >> reasonable/accurate?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Barton
> >> Â
> >> Â
> >> Â On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 01:38 AM, John Lisle wrote:
> >> Â
> >> Â > Barton,
> >>>
> >>> Two basic types of family tree sites exist: static pages and dynamic
> >>> pages.
> >>>
> >>> Static pages means you create all of the pages
> >>> you wish to upload to whatever hosting service
> >>> you wish to use. After you create the pages on
> >>> your PC; you then have to upload all of the pages
> >>> by FTP (or some similar tool) to your hosting
> >>> service. You may wish to create some pages as
> >>> home pages to tell your story. The disadvantage
> >>> of this technique is that it does not scale well.
> >>> As the size of your family file gets bigger, you
> >>> have more and more pages. Further, many of them
> >>> will be small and, as a result, consume large amounts of hosting
> >>> space.
> >>>
> >>> In the late 1990s, a program was created called
> >>> IGM by Randy Winch. The idea behind IGM was that
> >>> you uploaded your Gedcom file to your hosting
> >>> service along with the IGM software and had IGM
> >>> process your Gedcom and allow you to have IGM
> >>> create your web pages dynamically as visitors
> >>> requested them. Randy enhanced IGM for RootsWeb
> >>> and that is what RootsWeb's WorldConnect service is using.
> >>>
> >>> In the early 2000s, two software products were
> >>> created to take the IGM experience to a higher
> >>> level. They have the limitation that the hosting
> >>> service has to support php scripting MySQL
> >>> databases that not all "free" or cable company
> >>> hosting provides. They also expect the user to
> >>> 

Re: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages

[BARTON LEWIS]

John, in your statement,

"If you are using TNG or webtrees or some other tool with collaborative
ability, you could lose data and you might also lose the value of having
a search engine document your site."

do you means if you use TNG in conjunction with a cable company host
provider (subject of preceding objection), or if you use TNG, period.  I
assume the former, but am not sure.  If the latter, what is the best
alternative to using a tool with "collaborative ability?"  Are dynamic
web pages by definition ones with collaborative ability?  What does
collaborative ability mean, precisely? 

Thanks,

Barton
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 02:33 PM, John Lisle wrote:
 
 > Barton,
>
> Although WC and FS do not (easily) take media,
> they are worthwhile as places to archive your
> genealogy that also makes your research available to different
> audiences.
>
> One of my issues with using Cable company for web
> site (or email address) is that you might drop
> your cable company and then lose your site. If
> you are using TNG or webtrees or some other tool
> with collaborative ability, you could lose data
> and you might also lose the value of having a search engine document
> your site.
>
> In general, Comcast and that ilk does not support
> PHP and MySQL sites nor sites as large as you
> will probably want, as soon as you start adding
> media. :-) They may be restricted to various size
> or bandwidth limits. (As an aside, some folks
> have mentioned hosting services that offer
> unlimited space and bandwidth. Every one of them
> have other limits, usually CPU usage or the like
> and tend to be quite cruel in deciding to kick
> you off if you hit one of their hidden limits.
>
> Look for a reputable hosting service that has 24/7 support.
>
> john.
>
> At 11:32 AM 4/14/2015, BARTON LEWIS wrote:
>> John, thank you for the informative background.  I think I would not
>> want to go with WorldConnect or FamilySearch as I want to be able to
>> display media.  So I have been viewing the web page links at TNG and
>> think that's the way I want to go.  My only concern is that by
>> using my
>> cable compnay as my website host I may run into problems if there is
>> some kind of incompatability with using TNGÂ -- but I don't know if
>> that's an issue.  I guess if it could be, I will only find out by
>> trying
>> it.  And if it does prove to be an issue, I could take my domain
>> somewhere else to be hosted.  Does all of this sound
>> reasonable/accurate?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Barton
>> Â
>> Â
>> Â On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 01:38 AM, John Lisle wrote:
>> Â
>> Â > Barton,
>>>
>>> Two basic types of family tree sites exist: static pages and dynamic
>>> pages.
>>>
>>> Static pages means you create all of the pages
>>> you wish to upload to whatever hosting service
>>> you wish to use. After you create the pages on
>>> your PC; you then have to upload all of the pages
>>> by FTP (or some similar tool) to your hosting
>>> service. You may wish to create some pages as
>>> home pages to tell your story. The disadvantage
>>> of this technique is that it does not scale well.
>>> As the size of your family file gets bigger, you
>>> have more and more pages. Further, many of them
>>> will be small and, as a result, consume large amounts of hosting
>>> space.
>>>
>>> In the late 1990s, a program was created called
>>> IGM by Randy Winch. The idea behind IGM was that
>>> you uploaded your Gedcom file to your hosting
>>> service along with the IGM software and had IGM
>>> process your Gedcom and allow you to have IGM
>>> create your web pages dynamically as visitors
>>> requested them. Randy enhanced IGM for RootsWeb
>>> and that is what RootsWeb's WorldConnect service is using.
>>>
>>> In the early 2000s, two software products were
>>> created to take the IGM experience to a higher
>>> level. They have the limitation that the hosting
>>> service has to support php scripting MySQL
>>> databases that not all "free" or cable company
>>> hosting provides. They also expect the user to
>>> have, or have access to, some basic webmastering
>>> skills. Both require a quality hosting service
>>> and for you to acquire a domain name for your site.
>>>
>>> One is the OpenSource product phpGedView. This
>>> has the advantage that it is free. It is also slow.
>>>
>>> The other is the commercial product TNG. License
>>> cost is minor, and based on personal experience,
>>> the visitor experience is far superior and the
>>> customization tools provided by the vendor are
>>> effective and fairly easy to use. Further, it is
>>> the closest in data model to Legacy. Not
>>> identical, but most of your Legacy data can be
>>> imported into TNG and used as you would expect, including media and
>>> mapping.
>>>
>>> In many respects, all of the cloud based
>>> genealogy programs, including Ancestry Trees, are derivative of
>>> these
>>> ideas.
>>>
>>> To understand any of these dynamic solutions,
>>> think of them like you think of importing a
>>> Gedcom into

Re: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages

[BARTON LEWIS]

After looking over many pages at TNG, an objection I have is that
"Sources" is a separate page that is unlinked to any other.  If you
upload your GEDCOM to TNG, what happens to all your sources?  Do they
become separated from the events they document, or are they transferred
over at all?

I envision using my website to document a line one at a time, uploading
all the original source documentation or abstracts from published books,
etc.  I would like to combine a narrative with some descendant data, but
probably not all.  I liked Pat Hickin's tree at wikitree for this
reason, and that the sources were all displayed as footnotes and so
easily seen in context with the events they documented. 

Barton 
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 02:33 PM, John Lisle wrote:
 
 > Barton,
>
> Although WC and FS do not (easily) take media,
> they are worthwhile as places to archive your
> genealogy that also makes your research available to different
> audiences.
>
> One of my issues with using Cable company for web
> site (or email address) is that you might drop
> your cable company and then lose your site. If
> you are using TNG or webtrees or some other tool
> with collaborative ability, you could lose data
> and you might also lose the value of having a search engine document
> your site.
>
> In general, Comcast and that ilk does not support
> PHP and MySQL sites nor sites as large as you
> will probably want, as soon as you start adding
> media. :-) They may be restricted to various size
> or bandwidth limits. (As an aside, some folks
> have mentioned hosting services that offer
> unlimited space and bandwidth. Every one of them
> have other limits, usually CPU usage or the like
> and tend to be quite cruel in deciding to kick
> you off if you hit one of their hidden limits.
>
> Look for a reputable hosting service that has 24/7 support.
>
> john.
>
> At 11:32 AM 4/14/2015, BARTON LEWIS wrote:
>> John, thank you for the informative background.  I think I would not
>> want to go with WorldConnect or FamilySearch as I want to be able to
>> display media.  So I have been viewing the web page links at TNG and
>> think that's the way I want to go.  My only concern is that by
>> using my
>> cable compnay as my website host I may run into problems if there is
>> some kind of incompatability with using TNGÂ -- but I don't know if
>> that's an issue.  I guess if it could be, I will only find out by
>> trying
>> it.  And if it does prove to be an issue, I could take my domain
>> somewhere else to be hosted.  Does all of this sound
>> reasonable/accurate?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Barton
>> Â
>> Â
>> Â On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 01:38 AM, John Lisle wrote:
>> Â
>> Â > Barton,
>>>
>>> Two basic types of family tree sites exist: static pages and dynamic
>>> pages.
>>>
>>> Static pages means you create all of the pages
>>> you wish to upload to whatever hosting service
>>> you wish to use. After you create the pages on
>>> your PC; you then have to upload all of the pages
>>> by FTP (or some similar tool) to your hosting
>>> service. You may wish to create some pages as
>>> home pages to tell your story. The disadvantage
>>> of this technique is that it does not scale well.
>>> As the size of your family file gets bigger, you
>>> have more and more pages. Further, many of them
>>> will be small and, as a result, consume large amounts of hosting
>>> space.
>>>
>>> In the late 1990s, a program was created called
>>> IGM by Randy Winch. The idea behind IGM was that
>>> you uploaded your Gedcom file to your hosting
>>> service along with the IGM software and had IGM
>>> process your Gedcom and allow you to have IGM
>>> create your web pages dynamically as visitors
>>> requested them. Randy enhanced IGM for RootsWeb
>>> and that is what RootsWeb's WorldConnect service is using.
>>>
>>> In the early 2000s, two software products were
>>> created to take the IGM experience to a higher
>>> level. They have the limitation that the hosting
>>> service has to support php scripting MySQL
>>> databases that not all "free" or cable company
>>> hosting provides. They also expect the user to
>>> have, or have access to, some basic webmastering
>>> skills. Both require a quality hosting service
>>> and for you to acquire a domain name for your site.
>>>
>>> One is the OpenSource product phpGedView. This
>>> has the advantage that it is free. It is also slow.
>>>
>>> The other is the commercial product TNG. License
>>> cost is minor, and based on personal experience,
>>> the visitor experience is far superior and the
>>> customization tools provided by the vendor are
>>> effective and fairly easy to use. Further, it is
>>> the closest in data model to Legacy. Not
>>> identical, but most of your Legacy data can be
>>> imported into TNG and used as you would expect, including media and
>>> mapping.
>>>
>>> In many respects, all of the cloud based
>>> genealogy programs, including Ancestry Trees, are derivative of
>>> these
>>> ideas.
>>>
>>> To understand any

Re: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages

[Jay Wilpolt]

The problem with webtrees and its predecessor phpgedview, is that neither
of these programs break down a gedcom into data sets,
but rather leave it intact as whole and each action reads from the one file
and generates an answer,
thus it will get slower and slower as anything is added to it.

No one is ever going to come close to the response time seen in Legacy as a
desktop software. Especially when dealing with larger files.

TNG is the best option, but unfortunately its a one man operation, limited
to expansion and lacking in graphic appeal.
But its also the best at storing and manipulating any genealogy data.

Find what works best for you.




On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 3:16 AM, Stuart Gregory  wrote:

> For Barton, John and others interested,
>
> The open source PHPGedview has not been actively supported for a number of
> years since the main developer and a lot of others moved to create
> webtrees. I would definitely not recommend using PHPGedview. Webtrees is
> open source and therefore free, unlike TNG (The Next Generation). I have
> been a user of Legacy and webtrees for many years and PHPGedview for
> several years prior to moving to webtrees.
>
> For many years my webtrees site has been my prime database and I
> occasionally export a Gedcom from my site and create a new Legacy .fdb file
> so as to create reports that aren't available using webtrees. Although I
> back up my MySQL database every night, creating a new Legacy .fdb is
> another form of backup.
>
> Stuart
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Lisle [mailto:leg...@johnlisle.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 14 April 2015 1:39 PM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages
>
> Barton,
>
> Two basic types of family tree sites exist: static pages and dynamic pages.
>
> Static pages means you create all of the pages you wish to upload to
> whatever hosting service you wish to use. After you create the pages on
> your PC; you then have to upload all of the pages by FTP (or some similar
> tool) to your hosting service. You may wish to create some pages as home
> pages to tell your story. The disadvantage of this technique is that it
> does not scale well.
> As the size of your family file gets bigger, you have more and more pages.
> Further, many of them will be small and, as a result, consume large amounts
> of hosting space.
>
> In the late 1990s, a program was created called IGM by Randy Winch. The
> idea behind IGM was that you uploaded your Gedcom file to your hosting
> service along with the IGM software and had IGM process your Gedcom and
> allow you to have IGM create your web pages dynamically as visitors
> requested them. Randy enhanced IGM for RootsWeb and that is what RootsWeb's
> WorldConnect service is using.
>
> In the early 2000s, two software products were created to take the IGM
> experience to a higher level. They have the limitation that the hosting
> service has to support php scripting MySQL databases that not all "free" or
> cable company hosting provides. They also expect the user to have, or have
> access to, some basic webmastering skills. Both require a quality hosting
> service and for you to acquire a domain name for your site.
>
> One is the OpenSource product phpGedView. This has the advantage that it
> is free. It is also slow.
>
> The other is the commercial product TNG. License cost is minor, and based
> on personal experience, the visitor experience is far superior and the
> customization tools provided by the vendor are effective and fairly easy to
> use. Further, it is the closest in data model to Legacy. Not identical, but
> most of your Legacy data can be imported into TNG and used as you would
> expect, including media and mapping.
>
> In many respects, all of the cloud based genealogy programs, including
> Ancestry Trees, are derivative of these ideas.
>
> To understand any of these dynamic solutions, think of them like you think
> of importing a Gedcom into Legacy. You import the Gedcom and
> Legacy/TNG/WorldConnect/etc. load your data from the Gedcom, as best as
> they can, into the programs database so that you can explore, and in some
> cases like TNG, edit your data using the program as a genealogy program.
>
> --> I have at times edited my TNG family file
> directly when a visitor pointed out a problem that needed immediate
> correction; however, normally, for me, corrections come when I update a new
> Gedcom as Legacy files are always my master file.
>
> Last year, I was part of a team of members of the Guild of One Name
> Studies who looked at these solutions. The Guild has decided to pilot a
> program where members can get hosting space with the Guild for a web site
> that after paying for it while 

Re: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages

[John Lisle]

Barton,

Although WC and FS do not (easily) take media,
they are worthwhile as places to archive your
genealogy that also makes your research available to different audiences.

One of my issues with using Cable company for web
site (or email address) is that you might drop
your cable company and then lose your site. If
you are using TNG or webtrees or some other tool
with collaborative ability, you could lose data
and you might also lose the value of having a search engine document your site.

In general, Comcast and that ilk does not support
PHP and MySQL sites nor sites as large as you
will probably want, as soon as you start adding
media. :-) They may be restricted to various size
or bandwidth limits. (As an aside, some folks
have mentioned hosting services that offer
unlimited space and bandwidth. Every one of them
have other limits, usually CPU usage or the like
and tend to be quite cruel in deciding to kick
you off if you hit one of their hidden limits.

Look for a reputable hosting service that has 24/7 support.

john.

At 11:32 AM 4/14/2015, BARTON LEWIS wrote:
>John, thank you for the informative background.  I think I would not
>want to go with WorldConnect or FamilySearch as I want to be able to
>display media.  So I have been viewing the web page links at TNG and
>think that's the way I want to go.  My only concern is that by using my
>cable compnay as my website host I may run into problems if there is
>some kind of incompatability with using TNGÂ -- but I don't know if
>that's an issue.  I guess if it could be, I will only find out by trying
>it.  And if it does prove to be an issue, I could take my domain
>somewhere else to be hosted.  Does all of this sound
>reasonable/accurate?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Barton
>Â
>Â
>Â On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 01:38 AM, John Lisle wrote:
>Â
>Â > Barton,
> >
> > Two basic types of family tree sites exist: static pages and dynamic
> > pages.
> >
> > Static pages means you create all of the pages
> > you wish to upload to whatever hosting service
> > you wish to use. After you create the pages on
> > your PC; you then have to upload all of the pages
> > by FTP (or some similar tool) to your hosting
> > service. You may wish to create some pages as
> > home pages to tell your story. The disadvantage
> > of this technique is that it does not scale well.
> > As the size of your family file gets bigger, you
> > have more and more pages. Further, many of them
> > will be small and, as a result, consume large amounts of hosting
> > space.
> >
> > In the late 1990s, a program was created called
> > IGM by Randy Winch. The idea behind IGM was that
> > you uploaded your Gedcom file to your hosting
> > service along with the IGM software and had IGM
> > process your Gedcom and allow you to have IGM
> > create your web pages dynamically as visitors
> > requested them. Randy enhanced IGM for RootsWeb
> > and that is what RootsWeb's WorldConnect service is using.
> >
> > In the early 2000s, two software products were
> > created to take the IGM experience to a higher
> > level. They have the limitation that the hosting
> > service has to support php scripting MySQL
> > databases that not all "free" or cable company
> > hosting provides. They also expect the user to
> > have, or have access to, some basic webmastering
> > skills. Both require a quality hosting service
> > and for you to acquire a domain name for your site.
> >
> > One is the OpenSource product phpGedView. This
> > has the advantage that it is free. It is also slow.
> >
> > The other is the commercial product TNG. License
> > cost is minor, and based on personal experience,
> > the visitor experience is far superior and the
> > customization tools provided by the vendor are
> > effective and fairly easy to use. Further, it is
> > the closest in data model to Legacy. Not
> > identical, but most of your Legacy data can be
> > imported into TNG and used as you would expect, including media and
> > mapping.
> >
> > In many respects, all of the cloud based
> > genealogy programs, including Ancestry Trees, are derivative of these
> > ideas.
> >
> > To understand any of these dynamic solutions,
> > think of them like you think of importing a
> > Gedcom into Legacy. You import the Gedcom and
> > Legacy/TNG/WorldConnect/etc. load your data from
> > the Gedcom, as best as they can, into the
> > programs database so that you can explore, and in
> > some cases like TNG, edit your data using the program as a genealogy
> > program.
> >
> > --> I have at times edited my TNG family file
> > directly when a visitor pointed out a problem
> > that needed immediate correction; however,
> > normally, for me, corrections come when I update
> > a new Gedcom as Legacy files are always my master file.
> >
> > Last year, I was part of a team of members of the
> > Guild of One Name Studies who looked at these
> > solutions. The Guild has decided to pilot a
> > program where members can get hosting space with
> > the Guild for a web site th

RE: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages

[John Lisle]

Stuart,

Thank you for mentioning webtrees. I was aware of
it but have not investigated it.

One of my issues with phpGedview was that it did
not well handle large Gedcoms. After looking at
the site samples on their web site, I do not see
examples of large files. However, it does appear
to be far superior to phpGedview in most other ways.

I will need to give it more thought as an
alternative to TNG. The TNG license cost is not a
factor in contrast to the cost of hosting service
and domain name that would be common to both TNG or webtrees.

Another web site solution that I did not mention
is www.gigatrees.com. That site has some tools
for Gedcom analysis that are useful to assuring
that your data is not "bonkers". They also have
an ability to create from your Gedcom a set of
static pages for a web site that is more
interactive than the Legacy pages. I find that is
useful when researching a large new family branch
as I can quickly go from Legacy to a private web site to review the data.

john.




At 06:16 AM 4/14/2015, Stuart Gregory wrote:
>For Barton, John and others interested,
>
>The open source PHPGedview has not been actively
>supported for a number of years since the main
>developer and a lot of others moved to create
>webtrees. I would definitely not recommend using
>PHPGedview. Webtrees is open source and
>therefore free, unlike TNG (The Next
>Generation). I have been a user of Legacy and
>webtrees for many years and PHPGedview for
>several years prior to moving to webtrees.
>
>For many years my webtrees site has been my
>prime database and I occasionally export a
>Gedcom from my site and create a new Legacy .fdb
>file so as to create reports that aren't
>available using webtrees. Although I back up my
>MySQL database every night, creating a new
>Legacy .fdb is another form of backup.
>
>Stuart
>
>-Original Message-
>From: John Lisle [mailto:leg...@johnlisle.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, 14 April 2015 1:39 PM
>To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages
>
>Barton,
>
>Two basic types of family tree sites exist: static pages and dynamic pages.
>
>Static pages means you create all of the pages
>you wish to upload to whatever hosting service
>you wish to use. After you create the pages on
>your PC; you then have to upload all of the
>pages by FTP (or some similar tool) to your
>hosting service. You may wish to create some
>pages as home pages to tell your story. The
>disadvantage of this technique is that it does not scale well.
>As the size of your family file gets bigger, you
>have more and more pages. Further, many of them
>will be small and, as a result, consume large amounts of hosting space.
>
>In the late 1990s, a program was created called
>IGM by Randy Winch. The idea behind IGM was that
>you uploaded your Gedcom file to your hosting
>service along with the IGM software and had IGM
>process your Gedcom and allow you to have IGM
>create your web pages dynamically as visitors
>requested them. Randy enhanced IGM for RootsWeb
>and that is what RootsWeb's WorldConnect service is using.
>
>In the early 2000s, two software products were
>created to take the IGM experience to a higher
>level. They have the limitation that the hosting
>service has to support php scripting MySQL
>databases that not all "free" or cable company
>hosting provides. They also expect the user to
>have, or have access to, some basic webmastering
>skills. Both require a quality hosting service
>and for you to acquire a domain name for your site.
>
>One is the OpenSource product phpGedView. This
>has the advantage that it is free. It is also slow.
>
>The other is the commercial product TNG. License
>cost is minor, and based on personal experience,
>the visitor experience is far superior and the
>customization tools provided by the vendor are
>effective and fairly easy to use. Further, it is
>the closest in data model to Legacy. Not
>identical, but most of your Legacy data can be
>imported into TNG and used as you would expect, including media and mapping.
>
>In many respects, all of the cloud based
>genealogy programs, including Ancestry Trees, are derivative of these ideas.
>
>To understand any of these dynamic solutions,
>think of them like you think of importing a
>Gedcom into Legacy. You import the Gedcom and
>Legacy/TNG/WorldConnect/etc. load your data from
>the Gedcom, as best as they can, into the
>programs database so that you can explore, and
>in some cases like TNG, edit your data using the
>program as a genealogy program.
>
>--> I have at times edited my TNG family file
>directly when a visitor pointed out a problem
>that needed immediate correction; however,
>normally, for m

RE: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages

[BARTON LEWIS]

Stuart, is it possible to see a tree generated by wbtrees - yours,
perhaps?

Thanks,

Barton
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 06:16 AM, Stuart Gregory wrote:
 
 > For Barton, John and others interested,
>
> The open source PHPGedview has not been actively supported for a
> number of years since the main developer and a lot of others moved to
> create webtrees. I would definitely not recommend using PHPGedview.
> Webtrees is open source and therefore free, unlike TNG (The Next
> Generation). I have been a user of Legacy and webtrees for many years
> and PHPGedview for several years prior to moving to webtrees.
>
> For many years my webtrees site has been my prime database and I
> occasionally export a Gedcom from my site and create a new Legacy .fdb
> file so as to create reports that aren't available using webtrees.
> Although I back up my MySQL database every night, creating a new
> Legacy .fdb is another form of backup.
>
> Stuart
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Lisle [mailto:leg...@johnlisle.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 14 April 2015 1:39 PM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages
>
> Barton,
>
> Two basic types of family tree sites exist: static pages and dynamic
> pages.
>
> Static pages means you create all of the pages you wish to upload to
> whatever hosting service you wish to use. After you create the pages
> on your PC; you then have to upload all of the pages by FTP (or some
> similar tool) to your hosting service. You may wish to create some
> pages as home pages to tell your story. The disadvantage of this
> technique is that it does not scale well.
> As the size of your family file gets bigger, you have more and more
> pages. Further, many of them will be small and, as a result, consume
> large amounts of hosting space.
>
> In the late 1990s, a program was created called IGM by Randy Winch.
> The idea behind IGM was that you uploaded your Gedcom file to your
> hosting service along with the IGM software and had IGM process your
> Gedcom and allow you to have IGM create your web pages dynamically as
> visitors requested them. Randy enhanced IGM for RootsWeb and that is
> what RootsWeb's WorldConnect service is using.
>
> In the early 2000s, two software products were created to take the IGM
> experience to a higher level. They have the limitation that the
> hosting service has to support php scripting MySQL databases that not
> all "free" or cable company hosting provides. They also expect the
> user to have, or have access to, some basic webmastering skills. Both
> require a quality hosting service and for you to acquire a domain name
> for your site.
>
> One is the OpenSource product phpGedView. This has the advantage that
> it is free. It is also slow.
>
> The other is the commercial product TNG. License cost is minor, and
> based on personal experience, the visitor experience is far superior
> and the customization tools provided by the vendor are effective and
> fairly easy to use. Further, it is the closest in data model to
> Legacy. Not identical, but most of your Legacy data can be imported
> into TNG and used as you would expect, including media and mapping.
>
> In many respects, all of the cloud based genealogy programs, including
> Ancestry Trees, are derivative of these ideas.
>
> To understand any of these dynamic solutions, think of them like you
> think of importing a Gedcom into Legacy. You import the Gedcom and
> Legacy/TNG/WorldConnect/etc. load your data from the Gedcom, as best
> as they can, into the programs database so that you can explore, and
> in some cases like TNG, edit your data using the program as a
> genealogy program.
>
> --> I have at times edited my TNG family file
> directly when a visitor pointed out a problem that needed immediate
> correction; however, normally, for me, corrections come when I update
> a new Gedcom as Legacy files are always my master file.
>
> Last year, I was part of a team of members of the Guild of One Name
> Studies who looked at these solutions. The Guild has decided to pilot
> a program where members can get hosting space with the Guild for a web
> site that after paying for it while living will be retained after the
> member "retires" as a means of providing that members'
> research is not lost and continues to be available. The selected tool
> for dynamic web sites is TNG.
>
> BTW, one of the issues with any web site is how it plays with the
> various search bots. The Chicago company SimplyHosting is considered
> to be so TNG friendly that they have TNG specific hosting packages
> that cost under $5 a month, and they will even install the TNG
> software for you.

Re: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages

[BARTON LEWIS]

John, thank you for the informative background.  I think I would not
want to go with WorldConnect or FamilySearch as I want to be able to
display media.  So I have been viewing the web page links at TNG and
think that's the way I want to go.  My only concern is that by using my
cable compnay as my website host I may run into problems if there is
some kind of incompatability with using TNG -- but I don't know if
that's an issue.  I guess if it could be, I will only find out by trying
it.  And if it does prove to be an issue, I could take my domain
somewhere else to be hosted.  Does all of this sound
reasonable/accurate?

Thanks,

Barton
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 01:38 AM, John Lisle wrote:
 
 > Barton,
>
> Two basic types of family tree sites exist: static pages and dynamic
> pages.
>
> Static pages means you create all of the pages
> you wish to upload to whatever hosting service
> you wish to use. After you create the pages on
> your PC; you then have to upload all of the pages
> by FTP (or some similar tool) to your hosting
> service. You may wish to create some pages as
> home pages to tell your story. The disadvantage
> of this technique is that it does not scale well.
> As the size of your family file gets bigger, you
> have more and more pages. Further, many of them
> will be small and, as a result, consume large amounts of hosting
> space.
>
> In the late 1990s, a program was created called
> IGM by Randy Winch. The idea behind IGM was that
> you uploaded your Gedcom file to your hosting
> service along with the IGM software and had IGM
> process your Gedcom and allow you to have IGM
> create your web pages dynamically as visitors
> requested them. Randy enhanced IGM for RootsWeb
> and that is what RootsWeb's WorldConnect service is using.
>
> In the early 2000s, two software products were
> created to take the IGM experience to a higher
> level. They have the limitation that the hosting
> service has to support php scripting MySQL
> databases that not all "free" or cable company
> hosting provides. They also expect the user to
> have, or have access to, some basic webmastering
> skills. Both require a quality hosting service
> and for you to acquire a domain name for your site.
>
> One is the OpenSource product phpGedView. This
> has the advantage that it is free. It is also slow.
>
> The other is the commercial product TNG. License
> cost is minor, and based on personal experience,
> the visitor experience is far superior and the
> customization tools provided by the vendor are
> effective and fairly easy to use. Further, it is
> the closest in data model to Legacy. Not
> identical, but most of your Legacy data can be
> imported into TNG and used as you would expect, including media and
> mapping.
>
> In many respects, all of the cloud based
> genealogy programs, including Ancestry Trees, are derivative of these
> ideas.
>
> To understand any of these dynamic solutions,
> think of them like you think of importing a
> Gedcom into Legacy. You import the Gedcom and
> Legacy/TNG/WorldConnect/etc. load your data from
> the Gedcom, as best as they can, into the
> programs database so that you can explore, and in
> some cases like TNG, edit your data using the program as a genealogy
> program.
>
> --> I have at times edited my TNG family file
> directly when a visitor pointed out a problem
> that needed immediate correction; however,
> normally, for me, corrections come when I update
> a new Gedcom as Legacy files are always my master file.
>
> Last year, I was part of a team of members of the
> Guild of One Name Studies who looked at these
> solutions. The Guild has decided to pilot a
> program where members can get hosting space with
> the Guild for a web site that after paying for it
> while living will be retained after the member
> "retires" as a means of providing that members'
> research is not lost and continues to be
> available. The selected tool for dynamic web sites is TNG.
>
> BTW, one of the issues with any web site is how
> it plays with the various search bots. The
> Chicago company SimplyHosting is considered to be
> so TNG friendly that they have TNG specific
> hosting packages that cost under $5 a month, and
> they will even install the TNG software for you.
> (I have no financial interest in any of these
> vendors.) I use their services after having issues with other
> services.
>
> --> if you want easy places to preserve your data
> for no cost, I would suggest WorldConnect or
> FamilySearch (their community trees are based on
> limited version of TNG). Both have limitations on
> what can be displayed and what, if any, media
> items you can attach to your tree.
>
> Questions?
>
> john.
>
> At 12:01 AM 4/14/2015, Cathy Pinner wrote:
>> Hi Barton,
>> Thought I'd get your email out of an irrelevant thread.
>>
>> I can't help with your hosting and compatibility issues.
>>
>> However, Legacy Web Pages are generated on your computer and you can
>> view them in your browser.
>> Uploading

RE: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages

[Stuart Gregory]

For Barton, John and others interested,

The open source PHPGedview has not been actively supported for a number of 
years since the main developer and a lot of others moved to create webtrees. I 
would definitely not recommend using PHPGedview. Webtrees is open source and 
therefore free, unlike TNG (The Next Generation). I have been a user of Legacy 
and webtrees for many years and PHPGedview for several years prior to moving to 
webtrees.

For many years my webtrees site has been my prime database and I occasionally 
export a Gedcom from my site and create a new Legacy .fdb file so as to create 
reports that aren't available using webtrees. Although I back up my MySQL 
database every night, creating a new Legacy .fdb is another form of backup.

Stuart

-Original Message-
From: John Lisle [mailto:leg...@johnlisle.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 14 April 2015 1:39 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages

Barton,

Two basic types of family tree sites exist: static pages and dynamic pages.

Static pages means you create all of the pages you wish to upload to whatever 
hosting service you wish to use. After you create the pages on your PC; you 
then have to upload all of the pages by FTP (or some similar tool) to your 
hosting service. You may wish to create some pages as home pages to tell your 
story. The disadvantage of this technique is that it does not scale well.
As the size of your family file gets bigger, you have more and more pages. 
Further, many of them will be small and, as a result, consume large amounts of 
hosting space.

In the late 1990s, a program was created called IGM by Randy Winch. The idea 
behind IGM was that you uploaded your Gedcom file to your hosting service along 
with the IGM software and had IGM process your Gedcom and allow you to have IGM 
create your web pages dynamically as visitors requested them. Randy enhanced 
IGM for RootsWeb and that is what RootsWeb's WorldConnect service is using.

In the early 2000s, two software products were created to take the IGM 
experience to a higher level. They have the limitation that the hosting service 
has to support php scripting MySQL databases that not all "free" or cable 
company hosting provides. They also expect the user to have, or have access to, 
some basic webmastering skills. Both require a quality hosting service and for 
you to acquire a domain name for your site.

One is the OpenSource product phpGedView. This has the advantage that it is 
free. It is also slow.

The other is the commercial product TNG. License cost is minor, and based on 
personal experience, the visitor experience is far superior and the 
customization tools provided by the vendor are effective and fairly easy to 
use. Further, it is the closest in data model to Legacy. Not identical, but 
most of your Legacy data can be imported into TNG and used as you would expect, 
including media and mapping.

In many respects, all of the cloud based genealogy programs, including Ancestry 
Trees, are derivative of these ideas.

To understand any of these dynamic solutions, think of them like you think of 
importing a Gedcom into Legacy. You import the Gedcom and 
Legacy/TNG/WorldConnect/etc. load your data from the Gedcom, as best as they 
can, into the programs database so that you can explore, and in some cases like 
TNG, edit your data using the program as a genealogy program.

--> I have at times edited my TNG family file
directly when a visitor pointed out a problem that needed immediate correction; 
however, normally, for me, corrections come when I update a new Gedcom as 
Legacy files are always my master file.

Last year, I was part of a team of members of the Guild of One Name Studies who 
looked at these solutions. The Guild has decided to pilot a program where 
members can get hosting space with the Guild for a web site that after paying 
for it while living will be retained after the member "retires" as a means of 
providing that members'
research is not lost and continues to be available. The selected tool for 
dynamic web sites is TNG.

BTW, one of the issues with any web site is how it plays with the various 
search bots. The Chicago company SimplyHosting is considered to be so TNG 
friendly that they have TNG specific hosting packages that cost under $5 a 
month, and they will even install the TNG software for you.
(I have no financial interest in any of these
vendors.) I use their services after having issues with other services.

--> if you want easy places to preserve your data
for no cost, I would suggest WorldConnect or FamilySearch (their community 
trees are based on limited version of TNG). Both have limitations on what can 
be displayed and what, if any, media items you can attach to your tree.

Questions?

john.

At 12:01 AM 4/14/2015, Cathy Pinner wrote:
>Hi Barton,
>Thought I'd get your email out of an irrelevant thread.
>
>I can

Re: [LegacyUG] Testing Legacy Web Pages

[John Lisle]

Barton,

Two basic types of family tree sites exist: static pages and dynamic pages.

Static pages means you create all of the pages
you wish to upload to whatever hosting service
you wish to use. After you create the pages on
your PC; you then have to upload all of the pages
by FTP (or some similar tool) to your hosting
service. You may wish to create some pages as
home pages to tell your story. The disadvantage
of this technique is that it does not scale well.
As the size of your family file gets bigger, you
have more and more pages. Further, many of them
will be small and, as a result, consume large amounts of hosting space.

In the late 1990s, a program was created called
IGM by Randy Winch. The idea behind IGM was that
you uploaded your Gedcom file to your hosting
service along with the IGM software and had IGM
process your Gedcom and allow you to have IGM
create your web pages dynamically as visitors
requested them. Randy enhanced IGM for RootsWeb
and that is what RootsWeb's WorldConnect service is using.

In the early 2000s, two software products were
created to take the IGM experience to a higher
level. They have the limitation that the hosting
service has to support php scripting MySQL
databases that not all "free" or cable company
hosting provides. They also expect the user to
have, or have access to, some basic webmastering
skills. Both require a quality hosting service
and for you to acquire a domain name for your site.

One is the OpenSource product phpGedView. This
has the advantage that it is free. It is also slow.

The other is the commercial product TNG. License
cost is minor, and based on personal experience,
the visitor experience is far superior and the
customization tools provided by the vendor are
effective and fairly easy to use. Further, it is
the closest in data model to Legacy. Not
identical, but most of your Legacy data can be
imported into TNG and used as you would expect, including media and mapping.

In many respects, all of the cloud based
genealogy programs, including Ancestry Trees, are derivative of these ideas.

To understand any of these dynamic solutions,
think of them like you think of importing a
Gedcom into Legacy. You import the Gedcom and
Legacy/TNG/WorldConnect/etc. load your data from
the Gedcom, as best as they can, into the
programs database so that you can explore, and in
some cases like TNG, edit your data using the program as a genealogy program.

--> I have at times edited my TNG family file
directly when a visitor pointed out a problem
that needed immediate correction; however,
normally, for me, corrections come when I update
a new Gedcom as Legacy files are always my master file.

Last year, I was part of a team of members of the
Guild of One Name Studies who looked at these
solutions. The Guild has decided to pilot a
program where members can get hosting space with
the Guild for a web site that after paying for it
while living will be retained after the member
"retires" as a means of providing that members'
research is not lost and continues to be
available. The selected tool for dynamic web sites is TNG.

BTW, one of the issues with any web site is how
it plays with the various search bots. The
Chicago company SimplyHosting is considered to be
so TNG friendly that they have TNG specific
hosting packages that cost under $5 a month, and
they will even install the TNG software for you.
(I have no financial interest in any of these
vendors.) I use their services after having issues with other services.

--> if you want easy places to preserve your data
for no cost, I would suggest WorldConnect or
FamilySearch (their community trees are based on
limited version of TNG). Both have limitations on
what can be displayed and what, if any, media
items you can attach to your tree.

Questions?

john.

At 12:01 AM 4/14/2015, Cathy Pinner wrote:
>Hi Barton,
>Thought I'd get your email out of an irrelevant thread.
>
>I can't help with your hosting and compatibility issues.
>
>However, Legacy Web Pages are generated on your computer and you can
>view them in your browser.
>Uploading them to a host is a another step.
>
>So go to Internet Ribbon and choose an option in the Create Web Pages
>section and play.
>
>To see what others have done with Legacy Web Pages, Google "with Legacy
>8.0 from Millennia" including the quotes.
>
>Cathy
> > My cable provider for a nominal fee provides
> web hosting so I upgraded.  I started using
> Kompozer to build a website.  I don’t think
> it’s going to be adequate to what I want to
> do and also I've had problems with it -- the
> cable provider says it's creating problems and
> they recommend using their tool to build the
> website.  It’s free.  But I don’t like its
> templates -- they're not suited to what I want
> to do.  I am now worried about this host
> provider not being "compatible" with whatever
> website building tool I choose.  I'm not sure
> if I should be - don't know enough about it.  I
> want to find a website build

Re: [LegacyUG] Testing

[Robert57P_gmail]

Legacy support,

At this web page:
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp
why don't you add a comment near the SUBSCRIBE area (maybe inside the
blue box at the bottom of the blue box):

The comment would read something like:


If you subscribe but do not begin receiving e-mails within 5 days,
please e-mail
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
for assistance in subscribing.
Please give the system 5 days before you e-mail us.
Thank you


Or something like that.  5 days may be too long - the point is to give
them an alternate method of subscribing if the main method fails.  Yea,
I realize you may get impatient folks that do both at the same time, but
hopefully most folks will give the main method a reasonable length of
time first.  This may reduce some of the frustration that some folks
have when the regular subscription process fails.

Thanks for offering this FREE forum for us users to discuss Legacy! We
greatly appreciate it.

Bob

On 04/11/2015 16:22, Jack Earnshaw wrote:
> Hi Don
> There is a fundamental problem with subscribing to the list as many, many 
> people have reported this problem. If you send an email to 
> supp...@legacyfamilytree.com and explain the problem they will subscribe you 
> manually
>
> Jack
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Don Cook [mailto:docoo...@msn.com]
> Sent: 11 April 2015 20:20
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Testing
>
> I have subscribed (I think) but in about 2 weeks I have not yet received a 
> single message.
>
>
>
>
>
> Legacy User Group guidelines:
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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> our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com).
>
> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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> our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com).
>
> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
>
>





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RE: [LegacyUG] Testing

[Jack Earnshaw]

Hi Don
There is a fundamental problem with subscribing to the list as many, many 
people have reported this problem. If you send an email to 
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com and explain the problem they will subscribe you 
manually

Jack

-Original Message-
From: Don Cook [mailto:docoo...@msn.com]
Sent: 11 April 2015 20:20
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Testing

I have subscribed (I think) but in about 2 weeks I have not yet received a 
single message.





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RE: [LegacyUG] Testing

[Barton Lewis]

This is a longstanding problem for new subscribers that Legacy refuses to fix.  
Write the technical support folks at the email address below and ask them to 
help you.

Barton

-Original Message-
From: Don Cook [mailto:docoo...@msn.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 3:20 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Testing

I have subscribed (I think) but in about 2 weeks I have not yet received a 
single message.





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RE: [LegacyUG] Testing

[CE WOOD]

You need to contact Legacy support. Lately, the list has been capriciously 
deleting long-time members, so it's not just new members who are having the 
problem. As one poster said:

"Unfortunately this is a longstanding problem which Millennium is unable to 
fix, and they have just decided to live with it evidently. You will need to 
contact tech support whenever this happens."

CE

> From: docoo...@msn.com
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Testing
> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 13:19:45 -0600
>
> I have subscribed (I think) but in about 2 weeks I have not yet received a
> single message.



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Re: [LegacyUG] testing

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Marcus,

The list has been quite active today - have you received any posts? Have
you checked your spam folder?

How long have you been subscribed - have you received anything from the
list since you joined it?  the only post I've seen from this address of
yours was almost three years ago, so perhaps you left and came back just
recently?

In any case, if you're not receiving the posts you should contact Legacy
Support for assistance.  I don't need to know the answers to the
questions you've asked - they're for you to think about, and maybe tell
Support the details when/if you contact them.

A copy of this email is going directly to Marcus to ensure he sees it.

Kind Regards,
Wendy


Markus Zuercher said the following on 16/05/2014 11:53:
>
> Very quiet here…
>
> Just testing
>
> Markus
>



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RE: [LegacyUG] testing

[Kurt Kneeland]

Your email came through to the group.  There has been plenty of activity on the 
group the past week.



I guess you’ll need to contact support (supp...@legacyfamilytree.com).  Don’t 
know if the reset function they use will work in your case.  That usually 
solves the problem for new users whose accounts don’t get started properly.  
Yours is first I’ve heard of where an active account has just stopped working.



From: Mary LeClerc [mailto:quiltingm...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 9:48 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] testing



Haven't been receiving mail from the group for the last week or more.

--

Mary LeClerc

quiltingm...@gmail.com











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Re: [LegacyUG] Testing subscription

[Kathy Thompson]

Just a reply. Hopefully this one works for you



On 14/10/2013, at 4:27 AM, BobsTree2-Gmail  wrote:

> Just a test. Previous subscriptions for me did not work.
>
> Bob Hansen
>
>
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>
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Testing

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Sometimes the group is silent.

--- On Sun, 3/10/13, Oregon Rain  wrote:


From: Oregon Rain 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Testing
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Sunday, March 10, 2013, 6:00 AM







This is a test message to see if I am actually receiving mail from this list. 
Nothing has come through since I subscribe to the list day before yesterday.
 
Constance

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Re: [LegacyUG] Testing

[David Abernathy]

Well,it works on this end

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Re: [LegacyUG] Testing HI from momalot66

[Nina K. Johnson]

Hi  I'm trying to get Legacy working correctly on my Apple iMac.  I think Apple 
Mail "rule may be giving me problems.  Any Apple iMac users or Apple users got 
ant suggestions?  You might want to also cc me off line: momalo...@me.com, but 
is that legal for our Legacy User Group?  John Roose, do you use rules?  Is 
that why you might be having problems?


On Apr 14, 2011, at 6:37 AM, John Roose wrote:

> Hi
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Corinne Fordschmid  
> wrote:
> Although I’m on the mailing list, I don’t seem to be getting any messages. 
> Legacy support have re-subscribed me so this is just a test to see if it now 
> works.
>
> Perhaps some of you could just respond with a quick “Hi” and I’ll see if they 
> get through the mystery blocker!
>
> Thanks
>
> Corinne
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> --
> Genealogy - - - - - it's in my blood!
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Testing

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Hi from Rich in LA CA

--- On Thu, 4/14/11, Corinne Fordschmid  wrote:


From: Corinne Fordschmid 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Testing
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Thursday, April 14, 2011, 4:32 AM






Although I’m on the mailing list, I don’t seem to be getting any messages. 
Legacy support have re-subscribed me so this is just a test to see if it now 
works.
Perhaps some of you could just respond with a quick “Hi” and I’ll see if they 
get through the mystery blocker!
Thanks
Corinne
 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Testing

[Tim Rosenlof]

Spelling Correction > Hidee-ho Neighbor < Probably still wrong ? Taken
from Home Improvement.

Tim R.

On 4/14/2011 7:50 AM, Tim Rosenlof wrote:
> Hide-ho Neighbor loud and clear !
>
> Tim R.
> (Copy sent to her personally)
>
> On 4/14/2011 5:32 AM, Corinne Fordschmid wrote:
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Testing

[Tim Rosenlof]

Hide-ho Neighbor loud and clear !

Tim R.
(Copy sent to her personally)

On 4/14/2011 5:32 AM, Corinne Fordschmid wrote:
>
> Although I’m on the mailing list, I don’t seem to be getting any
> messages. Legacy support have re-subscribed me so this is just a test
> to see if it now works.
>
> Perhaps some of you could just respond with a quick “Hi” and I’ll see
> if they get through the mystery blocker!
>
> Thanks
>
> Corinne
>
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Testing

[John Roose]

Hi

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Corinne Fordschmid
wrote:

>  Although I’m on the mailing list, I don’t seem to be getting any
> messages. Legacy support have re-subscribed me so this is just a test to see
> if it now works.
>
> Perhaps some of you could just respond with a quick “Hi” and I’ll see if
> they get through the mystery blocker!
>
> Thanks
>
> Corinne
>
>
>
>
> Legacy User Group guidelines:
>
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp
> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:
>http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:
>http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/
> Online technical support: 
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp
> To unsubscribe: 
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
> 




--
Genealogy - - - - - it's in my blood!



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   http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp

Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:

   http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/

Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:

   http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/

Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp

To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp

Re: [LegacyUG] Testing

[Kathy Meyer]

Steve, I have started receiving emails from the LUG; hopefully by now,
you are as well. Wanted to respond so you know your message got
through.

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Steve Stevens
 wrote:
> Sorry to anyone who does receive this, but a number of us are not and I am
> testing for SPAM filtering.
>
>
>
> Legacy User Group guidelines:
>    http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp
> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:
>    http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:
>    http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/
> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp
> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
>



--
Kathy Meyer
"To reach a goal you have never before attained, you must do things
you have never before done."
--Richard G. Scott, "Finding the Way Back," Ensign, May 1990, 74

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
different results. ~ Albert Einstein



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   http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp

Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:

   http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/

Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:

   http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/

Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp

To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp

Re: [LegacyUG] testing

[Sherry/Support]

I am in correspondence with Collene through our Support system about
this issue so there's no need for a string of messages that her
message came through.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Collene Pearce  wrote:
> I'm testing to see if my message ever shows up.
> So far it hasn't.
>



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   http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/

Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:

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Re: [LegacyUG] TESTING IGNORE

[Sherry Holthe]

It's implied.  I'm beginning to think that no one reads them anyway!

"2. Stay on the topic of Legacy and its add-on programs, which is the
sole purpose of the LUG User Group."



If anyone has problems with the LUG list, please contact
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com and we'll help you troubleshoot.

Do not continue to send test messages to the list. That's very
inconsiderate of the other listers.

--
Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Dennis Kowallek  wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Jul 2010 11:13:16 +0100, John Murray 
> wrote:
>
>>I am having trouble trying to recieve email from the list
>
> Millennia:
>
> I think a new etiquette rule needs to be added regarding "test"
> messages.
>
> John:
>
> Instead of sending "test" messages to the list, just send a real reply
> or question to the list. If you don't get your message back and you
> don't see it in the archives after 5-6 hours, kindly send an email to
> support and ask for their help.
>
> --
>
> Dennis Kowallek
> kowal...@iglou.com
> **
>



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   http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp

Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:

   http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/

Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:

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To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp

Re: [LegacyUG] TESTING IGNORE

[Dennis Kowallek]

On Sun, 4 Jul 2010 11:13:16 +0100, John Murray 
wrote:

>I am having trouble trying to recieve email from the list

Millennia:

I think a new etiquette rule needs to be added regarding "test"
messages.

John:

Instead of sending "test" messages to the list, just send a real reply
or question to the list. If you don't get your message back and you
don't see it in the archives after 5-6 hours, kindly send an email to
support and ask for their help.

--

Dennis Kowallek
kowal...@iglou.com
**



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   http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp

Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:

   http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/

Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:

   http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/

Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp

To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp

Re: [LegacyUG] Testing - please ignore

[Mike Fry]

On 2010/05/20 10:06, Jan Roberts wrote:
> Sorry - looks like I have to check every time I send to LUG
>

That one was plain text :-)

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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   http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp

Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:

   http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/

Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:

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Re: [LegacyUG] Testing - please ignore

[Mike Fry]

On 2010/05/20 10:03, Jan Roberts wrote:
> Please ignore this message – I am trying to see if my email rule re
> Plain Text to LUG is working.

No, it's not! Looking at the message source, you've got a text part and
an html part.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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   http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp

Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:

   http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/

Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:

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RE: [LegacyUG] Testing - please ignore

[Jan Roberts]

Sorry - looks like I have to check every time I send to LUG

Cheers
Jan
From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:03
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Testing - please ignore

Please ignore this message – I am trying to see if my email rule re Plain Text 
to LUG is working.

Cheers
Jan






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   http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp

Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:

   http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/

Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:

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