Re: [LegacyUG] Child settings/status vs potential problems problem.
Is there some way to adjust the Legacy logic where it thinks you should be having children every 2 years? I mean, that is just not the norm, beginning, oh... mid-20th century? --Paula From: Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Child settings/status vs potential problems problem. I am not aware of any special setting that suppresses the problem for a twin situation and I just confirmed in my file that I have not applied any problem exclusions that are keeping the birth too soon PP from appearing. There is a PP indicator on the first listed Twin because there is a gap of more than 48 months between me and my twin and our older sibling. Our twin sisters were born just a few months less than 48 months after us and neither of them shows a PP indicator. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 21/04/2014 2:21 PM, magnoliasouth wrote: On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: Potential Problems do not consider outside factors such as child status, family relationships etc when checking date or age related issues. Ah. Well then I'll make a note to ask that for a feature one day. :) Many thanks. You should not be getting birth too close together so long as those twins were born on the same day. I am a twin and I have twin sisters and I do not get those warnings. That's really weird. Is there a setting somewhere that maybe I've missed? Ignore same day or something? Either way, I'll go back and double check to make sure I haven't made any errors. Thanks Brian for your quick responses. You're very kind. Cindy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Child settings/status vs potential problems problem.
On 24/04/2014 15:50, Paula Ryburn wrote: Is there some way to adjust the Legacy logic where it thinks you should be having children every 2 years? I mean, that is just not the norm, beginning, oh... mid-20th century? Yes, there is! Look at ToolsPotential ProblemsGaps and decide how you want to change the settings. You can change the length of time between children and/or you can have the gap settings only apply to marriages (and the children thereof) before a certain date of your choosing. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Child settings/status vs potential problems problem.
Paula: I tried to respond to this earlier but it was not sent for some reason. Anyway, click on Reports, then click on Other Reports and the Potential problems. Now click on the Gaps tab and change the number of months as desired. Howland Davis -Original Message- From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net To: legacyusergroup legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Thu, Apr 24, 2014 10:52 am Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Child settings/status vs potential problems problem. Is there some way to adjust the Legacy logic where it thinks you should be having children every 2 years? I mean, that is just not the norm, beginning, oh... mid-20th century? --Paula Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Child settings/status vs potential problems problem.
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote: You can access the Potential Problems Options in several different ways. 1) Shift plus right click on a PP alert. I knew this one, but I thought that was for each individual, 2) Tools Ribbon - in the Family Files Tool section on the left - Potential Problems This is the one I was looking for. Oh my goodness! I knew it was right there but these eyes just were not seeing them. ...I wonder where the help file is wrong? You seem to have got into a section talking about the way PPs can be identified when you're working with FamilySearch. Yeah, I thought I was in the Twilight Zone. LOL! That was really weird. Yet I couldn't find another reference to it anywhere. Thank you so for that! I appreciate all things, Cindy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Child settings/status vs potential problems problem.
It was one of my twins. I went back to check each one by one. I could swear I checked that before I posted, but apparently not because the other ones weren't a problem. What I did is unlink each twin to the parents and unliked them as twins. Then I linked the twin back. Whatever the problem was, it worked. These were not names I ever imported either. These were names I added recently myself. Can you tell me exactly where those original options are? I found them once and I've been wanting to go back over them but I can't find them anywhere. They're probably right in front of me. I help file says The Select Potential Problem Options screen is shown when you choose Potential Problems Options from the Tools dropdown menu on the Legacy FamilySearch screen. What is the Legacy FamilySearch screen? There is Search Search FamilySearch (which is not titled Legacy FamilySearch) but that only does what it says it does. It launches FamilySearch, which makes zero sense. Why would potential problems have anything at all to do with FamilySearch? It's problems, not family. So then in help I click on Legacy FamilySearch screen and it says The Legacy FamilySearch screen is reached by clicking the Family Search button on the My Toolbars tab of the Ribbon bar. No it isn't. The My Toolbars is customizable. Fine. Maybe I removed it. So I go to customize and guess what? All I see is the same FamilySearch that is on the Search tab, not the My Toolbars tab. Now I decide I'd better launch FamilySearch since I have no other alternative, despite the fact that it makes no sense and sure enough, there are no such options. So now I think let me go back to the beginning. It mentions Tools, let's go to Tools. I go to Tools and there is nothing there. I even click on More Tools and still nothing. Can you please explain this? I don't understand why this so overly complicated. Shouldn't these settings, since they are settings meaning options, be on under Options? Like I said, it's probably very simple and right in front of me, but I just am not seeing it. On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote: I also am not getting PP alerts for twins. I have lots of twins in the family, and, like Brian, checked whether I'd done anything else to exclude them. I did have don't check gaps for children of marriages after 1950 but that doesn't apply to the twins in question. But just to make sure I turned that off as well. No PP alerts. I just have Child Status set as Twin. Like Brian, the first twin only has a PP alert if the gap after the previous child is too long. None of the second twins have PP alerts. Cathy At 03:09 AM 22/04/2014, you wrote: I am not aware of any special setting that suppresses the problem for a twin situation and I just confirmed in my file that I have not applied any problem exclusions that are keeping the birth too soon PP from appearing. There is a PP indicator on the first listed Twin because there is a gap of more than 48 months between me and my twin and our older sibling. Our twin sisters were born just a few months less than 48 months after us and neither of them shows a PP indicator. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 21/04/2014 2:21 PM, magnoliasouth wrote: On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: Potential Problems do not consider outside factors such as child status, family relationships etc when checking date or age related issues. Ah. Well then I'll make a note to ask that for a feature one day. :) Many thanks. You should not be getting birth too close together so long as those twins were born on the same day. I am a twin and I have twin sisters and I do not get those warnings. That's really weird. Is there a setting somewhere that maybe I've missed? Ignore same day or something? Either way, I'll go back and double check to make sure I haven't made any errors. Thanks Brian for your quick responses. You're very kind. Cindy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support:
Re: [LegacyUG] Child settings/status vs potential problems problem.
You can access the Potential Problems Options in several different ways. 1) Shift plus right click on a PP alert. 2) Tools Ribbon - in the Family Files Tool section on the left - Potential Problems 3) Reports Ribbon - Other Reports - Potential Problems. They'll all take you to the same place in order to choose the issues you want to be globally alerted to. To see whether an individual has been excluded from a particular potential problem. See their Individual edit screen. Exclude from Potential Problems button. If they have any exclusions this button with have an asterisk on it. Click it and you'll find a check mark in the category they've been excluded from. You can also have a symbol shown on Family View next to someone's name if they've been excluded from a Potential Problem. Options - Customise 3.12 To turn on or off the PP alerts - Options - Customise 8.11 I wonder where the help file is wrong? You seem to have got into a section talking about the way PPs can be identified when you're working with FamilySearch. Cathy At 05:00 AM 23/04/2014, you wrote: It was one of my twins. I went back to check each one by one. I could swear I checked that before I posted, but apparently not because the other ones weren't a problem. What I did is unlink each twin to the parents and unliked them as twins. Then I linked the twin back. Whatever the problem was, it worked. These were not names I ever imported either. These were names I added recently myself. Can you tell me exactly where those original options are? I found them once and I've been wanting to go back over them but I can't find them anywhere. They're probably right in front of me. I help file says The Select Potential Problem Options screen is shown when you choose Potential Problems Options from the Tools dropdown menu on the Legacy FamilySearch screen. What is the Legacy FamilySearch screen? There is Search Search FamilySearch (which is not titled Legacy FamilySearch) but that only does what it says it does. It launches FamilySearch, which makes zero sense. Why would potential problems have anything at all to do with FamilySearch? It's problems, not family. So then in help I click on Legacy FamilySearch screen and it says The Legacy FamilySearch screen is reached by clicking the Family Search button on the My Toolbars tab of the Ribbon bar. No it isn't. The My Toolbars is customizable. Fine. Maybe I removed it. So I go to customize and guess what? All I see is the same FamilySearch that is on the Search tab, not the My Toolbars tab. Now I decide I'd better launch FamilySearch since I have no other alternative, despite the fact that it makes no sense and sure enough, there are no such options. So now I think let me go back to the beginning. It mentions Tools, let's go to Tools. I go to Tools and there is nothing there. I even click on More Tools and still nothing. Can you please explain this? I don't understand why this so overly complicated. Shouldn't these settings, since they are settings meaning options, be on under Options? Like I said, it's probably very simple and right in front of me, but I just am not seeing it. On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote: I also am not getting PP alerts for twins. I have lots of twins in the family, and, like Brian, checked whether I'd done anything else to exclude them. I did have don't check gaps for children of marriages after 1950 but that doesn't apply to the twins in question. But just to make sure I turned that off as well. No PP alerts. I just have Child Status set as Twin. Like Brian, the first twin only has a PP alert if the gap after the previous child is too long. None of the second twins have PP alerts. Cathy At 03:09 AM 22/04/2014, you wrote: I am not aware of any special setting that suppresses the problem for a twin situation and I just confirmed in my file that I have not applied any problem exclusions that are keeping the birth too soon PP from appearing. There is a PP indicator on the first listed Twin because there is a gap of more than 48 months between me and my twin and our older sibling. Our twin sisters were born just a few months less than 48 months after us and neither of them shows a PP indicator. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 21/04/2014 2:21 PM, magnoliasouth wrote: On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: Potential Problems do not consider outside factors such as child status, family relationships etc when checking date or age related issues. Ah. Well then I'll make a note to ask that for a feature one day. :) Many thanks. You should not be getting birth too close together so long as those twins were born on the same day. I am a twin and I have twin sisters and I do not get those warnings. That's really weird. Is there a
Re: [LegacyUG] Child settings/status vs potential problems problem.
Darn! I ruined my joke! That should have been de-humidifier. Oh well. Guess my career as a comedian is over. ;) Sorry for the off topic update. On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 5:11 AM, magnoliasouth magnoliaso...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a setting somewhere that will sync these two together? For example, we have an abundance of twins in our family. I set the child status to twins, but I endlessly get warnings that they were born too close together. I could see if it were three months apart or something, but really matching birthdays shouldn't be an issue. I also run into the problem when I change a child status to step. I will get warnings that the birth parent was too young, even when it's changed to step. I just like to keep the children attached until I find the real parent. Is there a setting somewhere that will make these two features play nicely with each other? It reminds me of a Steven Wright joke. He said he put the vaporizer and the humidifier in one room and let them battle it out. LOL! TIA! Cindy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Child settings/status vs potential problems problem.
Potential Problems do not consider outside factors such as child status, family relationships etc when checking date or age related issues. You should not be getting birth too close together so long as those twins were born on the same day. I am a twin and I have twin sisters and I do not get those warnings. If there is a day or more separating the birth dates you will get the warning so if one twin was born near midnight and the other the next day the warning will appear. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 21/04/2014 6:11 AM, magnoliasouth wrote: Is there a setting somewhere that will sync these two together? For example, we have an abundance of twins in our family. I set the child status to twins, but I endlessly get warnings that they were born too close together. I could see if it were three months apart or something, but really matching birthdays shouldn't be an issue. I also run into the problem when I change a child status to step. I will get warnings that the birth parent was too young, even when it's changed to step. I just like to keep the children attached until I find the real parent. Is there a setting somewhere that will make these two features play nicely with each other? It reminds me of a Steven Wright joke. He said he put the vaporizer and the humidifier in one room and let them battle it out. LOL! TIA! Cindy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Child settings/status vs potential problems problem.
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: Potential Problems do not consider outside factors such as child status, family relationships etc when checking date or age related issues. Ah. Well then I'll make a note to ask that for a feature one day. :) Many thanks. You should not be getting birth too close together so long as those twins were born on the same day. I am a twin and I have twin sisters and I do not get those warnings. That's really weird. Is there a setting somewhere that maybe I've missed? Ignore same day or something? Either way, I'll go back and double check to make sure I haven't made any errors. Thanks Brian for your quick responses. You're very kind. Cindy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Child settings/status vs potential problems problem.
I am not aware of any special setting that suppresses the problem for a twin situation and I just confirmed in my file that I have not applied any problem exclusions that are keeping the birth too soon PP from appearing. There is a PP indicator on the first listed Twin because there is a gap of more than 48 months between me and my twin and our older sibling. Our twin sisters were born just a few months less than 48 months after us and neither of them shows a PP indicator. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 21/04/2014 2:21 PM, magnoliasouth wrote: On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: Potential Problems do not consider outside factors such as child status, family relationships etc when checking date or age related issues. Ah. Well then I'll make a note to ask that for a feature one day. :) Many thanks. You should not be getting birth too close together so long as those twins were born on the same day. I am a twin and I have twin sisters and I do not get those warnings. That's really weird. Is there a setting somewhere that maybe I've missed? Ignore same day or something? Either way, I'll go back and double check to make sure I haven't made any errors. Thanks Brian for your quick responses. You're very kind. Cindy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Child settings/status vs potential problems problem.
I also am not getting PP alerts for twins. I have lots of twins in the family, and, like Brian, checked whether I'd done anything else to exclude them. I did have don't check gaps for children of marriages after 1950 but that doesn't apply to the twins in question. But just to make sure I turned that off as well. No PP alerts. I just have Child Status set as Twin. Like Brian, the first twin only has a PP alert if the gap after the previous child is too long. None of the second twins have PP alerts. Cathy At 03:09 AM 22/04/2014, you wrote: I am not aware of any special setting that suppresses the problem for a twin situation and I just confirmed in my file that I have not applied any problem exclusions that are keeping the birth too soon PP from appearing. There is a PP indicator on the first listed Twin because there is a gap of more than 48 months between me and my twin and our older sibling. Our twin sisters were born just a few months less than 48 months after us and neither of them shows a PP indicator. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 21/04/2014 2:21 PM, magnoliasouth wrote: On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: Potential Problems do not consider outside factors such as child status, family relationships etc when checking date or age related issues. Ah. Well then I'll make a note to ask that for a feature one day. :) Many thanks. You should not be getting birth too close together so long as those twins were born on the same day. I am a twin and I have twin sisters and I do not get those warnings. That's really weird. Is there a setting somewhere that maybe I've missed? Ignore same day or something? Either way, I'll go back and double check to make sure I haven't made any errors. Thanks Brian for your quick responses. You're very kind. Cindy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
