Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Temporary upload of sat images for evaluation (WMS)
Hi Nic, scenario (1) resp. (B) would probably perfectly fit our intention because we do not speak about vector but bitmap data (photos) which shall be provided. So I have learnt now that there is no risk of loosing any rights when providing bitmap data in order to let us draw our ways etc. on it. Second message out of your replies: It´s possible to incorporate the data either into JOSM or/and into Potlatch. This would require some questions in one of the other forums or mailing lists regarding the specific "how to". If that is right we can proceed and focus on the technical side of the activity now. Thanks so far for your input, and in case there are additional aspects which have not yet been covered - I will keep an eye on this thread of course. Best regards, Kristian Original-Nachricht Betreff: Re:[OSM-legal-talk] Temporary upload of sat images for evaluation (WMS) Von: Nic Roets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Licensing and other legal discussions. Datum: Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2008 21:19:10 > Let's just distinguish between the types of data : > > 1. The commercial partner can keep ownership of the >original raster data (photos). > > 2. Derived vector data that is uploaded to the OSM >servers will be placed under the OSM license. > > So there are many options > > A. He sets up his own server and continues to own >the vector data. Don't expect help from the community. > > B. He sets up a WMS with specific rules as to what >vector data we may derive from it. For example >"only roads, but no POIs". This will work quite >well, because JOSM supports may WMS sources and >he can choose which members of the community he >wants to allow. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Temporary upload of sat images for evaluation (WMS)
Let's just distinguish between the types of data : 1. The commercial partner can keep ownership of the original raster data (photos). 2. Derived vector data that is uploaded to the OSM servers will be placed under the OSM license. So there are many options A. He sets up his own server and continues to own the vector data. Don't expect help from the community. B. He sets up a WMS with specific rules as to what vector data we may derive from it. For example "only roads, but no POIs". This will work quite well, because JOSM supports may WMS sources and he can choose which members of the community he wants to allow. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Temporary upload of sat images for evaluation (WMS)
Kristian, I suspect that what you are looking for is permission from the commercial partner to derive data from those images. This is what OpenStreetMap has as an agreement with Yahoo! However to keep control of the issue the WMS would need to be restricted in some way, perhaps by offering it as a layer in potlatch. Cheers Andy >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:legal-talk- >[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristian >Sent: 23 July 2008 5:21 PM >To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] Temporary upload of sat images for evaluation >(WMS) > >Hi, > >we are in informal discussion with a commercial partner who thinks >about making use of OSM according to the OSM philosophy. On the >other hand they would like to support OSM if possible. In order >to judge one imaginable option we would like to do the following: > >. To select a mid size city and a rural area in Germany which are >not covered by high resolution by Yahoo Aerial data as "probands". > >. To provide satellite images of those areas via WMS (done by the >commercial partner on the basis of an ArcGIS Server). > >. To map everything in both areas as accurate as possible. > >. To remove the satellite images, thus the WMS service. > >. To review and evaluate the results. > >QUESTION: > >The commercial partner has all copyrights and permissions for >the provided data but cannot make it public domain resp. put >it under the OSM license at this stage. So the rights on this >data must not change through the above mentioned activity. > >Is that possible? Or is there a rule or regulation which puts >all uploaded data under the OSM license automatically? If so, >we could not go this way via WMS. Then the second question >would be if there are technical solutions available to use >such data kind of lokally (by importing it as background >image in JOSM or something) on the user level. > >Thanks in advance for according notes and advices >and best regards from Cologne, > >Kristian > > >___ >legal-talk mailing list >legal-talk@openstreetmap.org >http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/legal-talk > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.5/1568 - Release Date: 23/07/2008 >6:55 AM ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-legal-talk] Temporary upload of sat images for evaluation (WMS)
Hi, we are in informal discussion with a commercial partner who thinks about making use of OSM according to the OSM philosophy. On the other hand they would like to support OSM if possible. In order to judge one imaginable option we would like to do the following: • To select a mid size city and a rural area in Germany which are not covered by high resolution by Yahoo Aerial data as "probands". • To provide satellite images of those areas via WMS (done by the commercial partner on the basis of an ArcGIS Server). • To map everything in both areas as accurate as possible. • To remove the satellite images, thus the WMS service. • To review and evaluate the results. QUESTION: The commercial partner has all copyrights and permissions for the provided data but cannot make it public domain resp. put it under the OSM license at this stage. So the rights on this data must not change through the above mentioned activity. Is that possible? Or is there a rule or regulation which puts all uploaded data under the OSM license automatically? If so, we could not go this way via WMS. Then the second question would be if there are technical solutions available to use such data kind of lokally (by importing it as background image in JOSM or something) on the user level. Thanks in advance for according notes and advices and best regards from Cologne, Kristian ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/legal-talk
