Re: [OSM-legal-talk] The edges of share-alike on data Re: Attribution
Am 05.05.2014 06:38, schrieb Rob Myers: .. > > But the license doesn't exist to collect data for OSM. > .. True, but our immediate, admittedly egoistic, interest is that we are free to use any improvements (in a wide sense of the word) to OSM data and that derivatives of OSM remain free. > It exists to ensure that all the users (or in the terms of the license, > all its recipients if you Use it Publicly) of that data, in combination > with whichever other data and in whatever form and wherever they > encounter it, are free to use it. The licence is substantially more restrictive in what it effects (original OSM data and derivatives of it) than you are portraying it. In particular it explicitly allows combination with other data without effecting the legal status of such. IF the ODbL had the effect you attribute to it, then we would really have a problem (and likely OSM usage would go through the floor). Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] The edges of share-alike on data Re: Attribution
On 03/05/14 08:51 AM, Michael Collinson wrote: > > Geocoding: So I have to share a patient's medical record because it is > geocoded against OSM? Who with? > Dynamic Data: So if I use OpenStreetMap car park location data, I have > to share the real-time occupancy data? Who with? > Algorithmic transformations: So I thought of this clever idea to > pre-format OSM data for fast loading into my game. Now I have to share > my that or my algorithm? Who with? > General maps: I want to use OSM to show locations of restaurants on my > restaurant review site. Now I have to share the reviews? Who with? > *And share-alike only applies to what we collect.* But the license doesn't exist to collect data for OSM. It exists to ensure that all the users (or in the terms of the license, all its recipients if you Use it Publicly) of that data, in combination with whichever other data and in whatever form and wherever they encounter it, are free to use it. If that leads to patients having better access to their medical data, people being able to find somewhere to park, players of games being able to maintain and modify them creatively to build communities around them and drive sales, and people being able to check the actual rankings of the restaurants they're being directed to that's definitely a win for Open Data. - Rob. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Creative Commons license question
On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 2:44 AM, Michael Collinson wrote: [ ... ] > [And if anyone in the UK wants to help them by creating tiles from scratch > under a CC-BY license, let me know and I'll pass on. It does seem to be in > a good cause. But the core question is still a good one to answer.] Not currently in UK, but I can generate tiles for them, for the use described. I'll insist that they meet their attribution obligations of course. :-) ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Creative Commons license question
Am 04.05.2014 10:51, schrieb Eugene Alvin Villar: . > > I think fair use/fair dealing could apply here and they have no > obligations? (But an attribution would be nice.) My understanding of fair dealing is that it would not apply here (different in the states or for example in Germany). signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Creative Commons license question
> Am 04/mag/2014 um 08:44 schrieb Michael Collinson : > > An organisation is making a short film/video which will be released CC-BY. > They want to show (fleetingly) OSM map tiles ... which are CC-BY-SA- 2.0. > Can they do that? Is this different to publishing a book (full copyright) with osm cartography (cc-by-sa) in it? I would expect that they can do it, the maps would remain cc-by-sa but the film could be cc-by or any other license (agree with Eugene, fair use unless the film is mainly maps). Btw, this was already happening in the past, a German TV series had some osm maps in it pretending it was the police cartography system and AFAIR crediting osm in the titles. cheers, Martin ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Creative Commons license question
On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Michael Collinson wrote: > This is a pure CC question. > > An organisation is making a short film/video which will be released CC-BY. > They want to show (fleetingly) OSM map tiles ... which are CC-BY-SA- 2.0. > Can they do that? > I think fair use/fair dealing could apply here and they have no obligations? (But an attribution would be nice.) ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
