Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Copyright and license page, how to do the details
On 05/12/12 13:09, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Looking at the licensing page there is still the explicit requirement to credit osm "in the corner of the map" and in the meantime the FAQ has been amended with the same requirement. Some time ago this wasn't required explicitly, that's why I ask when this was introduced and by whom? (the old requirement was that it should be stated somewhere that (c) is osm contributors). The "Legal FAQ" wiki page still says "...in the corner of the map... or an about box/page". I agree with Tobias that for apps on mobile devices which use a lot of different data from different sources this is somehow impractical, as it would clutter the screen (fortunately there is no minimum font size requirement ;-) ). +1. "In the corner" is overly restrictive, especially for maps with multiple sources. The copyright page should say the same thing as the wiki page does. J. -- Dr Jonathan Harley :Managing Director: SpiffyMap Ltd m...@spiffymap.com Phone: 0845 313 8457 www.spiffymap.com The Venture Centre, Sir William Lyons Road, Coventry CV4 7EZ, UK ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Copyright and license page, how to do the details
Looking at the licensing page there is still the explicit requirement to credit osm "in the corner of the map" and in the meantime the FAQ has been amended with the same requirement. Some time ago this wasn't required explicitly, that's why I ask when this was introduced and by whom? (the old requirement was that it should be stated somewhere that (c) is osm contributors). I agree with Tobias that for apps on mobile devices which use a lot of different data from different sources this is somehow impractical, as it would clutter the screen (fortunately there is no minimum font size requirement ;-) ). There is also a whole lot of osm-based websites and services around, which don't do attribution in this google-tos-style (some of them credit osm somewhere on the map, but it isn't "in the corner", others link to a dedicated sources-page with sometimes detailed information about osm and the licensing terms). cheers, Martin ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Copyright and license page, how to do the details
Am 28/ott/2012 um 15:11 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer : > just to users of the datatiles or to all users of OSM data presenting > it in some form of browsable electronic map? Errata corrige: s/datatiles/standard mapnik rastertiles/ ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Copyright and license page, how to do the details
On 28.10.2012 15:11, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > To whom applies the requirement to credit in the corner of the map, > just to users of the datatiles or to all users of OSM data presenting > it in some form of browsable electronic map? Where does this > requirement come from? Or am I misinterpreting this, and "should" is > not a requirement but a recommendation? I'm also wondering how that recommendation (requirement?) made it onto the "copyright" page. Based on existing websites and applications using OSM data, this is not at all an universally accepted standard for attribution. In the case of apps/sites intended for mobile usage, it is rare to see attribution in the corner due to screen space constraints. But even for desktop applications, about boxes aren't uncommon either. The only subset of "browsable electronic maps" where this approach to attribution dominates are slippymaps on websites for desktop usage. The popular slippymap frameworks probably contribute to this because they place it in a corner by default. But even there you will find exceptions among popular websites within the OSM community that have existed for years. This is usually the case where multiple sources are used to create the map, making it impractical to list all of them directly on the map. To summarize, the "corner attribution" is clearly not the best choice at least in the following cases: * on mobile devices with small screens * when combining several sources that each ask for attribution * with technical limitations (e.g. no hyperlinks in drawing area). So my suggestion is to remove or rephrase that section of the copyright page. It should be allowed to place attribution in a dialog (such as the standard "about box" user interface convention for desktop apps) or a separate "license"/"sources"/"about" page - which of course must be directly and easily accessible from the site displaying the map. Tobias ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-legal-talk] Copyright and license page, how to do the details
I am reading the new copyright and license page, but don't find it very clear to understand. http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright "How to credit OpenStreetMap We require that you use the credit “© OpenStreetMap contributors”. You must also make it clear that the data is available under the Open Database License, and if using our map tiles, that the cartography is licensed as CC-BY-SA. You may do this by linking to this copyright page. Alternatively, and as a requirement if you are distributing OSM in a data form, you can name and link directly to the license(s)... For a browsable electronic map, the credit should appear in the corner of the map." To whom applies the requirement to credit in the corner of the map, just to users of the datatiles or to all users of OSM data presenting it in some form of browsable electronic map? Where does this requirement come from? Or am I misinterpreting this, and "should" is not a requirement but a recommendation? Crosschecking with the legal FAQ it seems that an about-box/page would be fine as well: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Legal_FAQ#3a._I_would_like_to_use_OpenStreetMap_maps._How_should_I_credit_you.3F "For a browsable electronic map (e.g. embedded in a web page or mobile phone application), the credit should appear in the corner of the map, as commonly seen with map APIs/libraries such as Google Maps, or an about box/page.". cheers, Martin ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
