Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Corine Land Cover?

2014-01-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014/1/14 pmsg 

> can we use Corine Land Cover data? I think not, but I would
> be grateful to be tought something different.
>

I think it depends on the country, AFAIK this is not one big dataset but
several datasets, with different licensing according to the contributing
country.

Cheers,
Martin
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Corine Land Cover?

2014-01-14 Thread pmsg
Hi,

> From: Martin Koppenhoefer 

> legal issues aside my concern is that Corine Data is not suitable
> technically for OSM: the resolution is too low and not compatible with the
> rest of our data.

I don't want to import Corine Land Cover data. I would like the Wiki
to be correct, though.

So can we - theoretically - derive vector data from sources requiring
(any form of) attribution and import the derived data into OSM? For
example, can we use Corine Land Cover data? I think not, but I would
be grateful to be tought something different.

Greetings, pmsg

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Corine Land Cover?

2014-01-14 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Janko Mihelić  wrote:

> I agree. Importing Corine is a big mistake for any OSM community. The best
> way to use Corine is to make a rendered Corine layer, and then use that to
> help with mapping.

blablabla, always the same song. Like if a blank page is better than
rough landuses... With this concept, OSM should have never started
with Yahoo imagery...

> I've seen a Corine import in Bosnia and Herzegovina, and the data is awful.
> Not only that, it makes mapping a nightmare for any beginner.

Like any other contributions, you are free to delete old landuses and
make new ones better. Just do it. Btw, mapping landuse is any way a
nightmare, even for experimented contributors. I did. Did you ?

Back to the OP, many data sources imported requires some
acknowledgment. This is either on the polygons or in changeset
comments. Even if it is removed from elements, you find it in the
history. (it's even better in the changeset comment since it is
permanent)

Pieren

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Corine Land Cover?

2014-01-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014/1/13 pmsg 

> Thank you for your opinions,
> pmsg
>


legal issues aside my concern is that Corine Data is not suitable
technically for OSM: the resolution is too low and not compatible with the
rest of our data.

cheers,
Martin
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[OSM-legal-talk] Corine Land Cover?

2014-01-13 Thread pmsg
Dear all,

The Wiki currently states that import of Corine Land Cover data into OSM is ok:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Corine_Land_Cover

The source says "Unless otherwise indicated, re-use of content on the
EEA website for commercial or non-commercial purposes is permitted
free of charge, provided that the source is acknowledged."

Doesn't the last part (acknowledment) make the data incompatible with OSM?
Users of Produced Works from OSM do not acknowledge EEA.

Thank you for your opinions,
pmsg

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