Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New contributors and some data sources are not allowed under the CTs but too easy to access.
JohnSmitty wrote: In any case going forward unless something changes with the CTs many many many more people will be effected by this, does the OSM APIs have the ability to indicate if the account has agreed to the CTs and then update editors to prevent certain layers from being shown. Obviously this wouldn't prevent anyone with enough determination in using Nearmap or any other source of data which would be in conflict with the CTs but it would help newbies from making innocent mistakes... A very similar mater appears to arise in a slightly different context. Let's for the moment assume that the ODbL and CT were compatible with CC-BY (like Ordnance Survey StreetView), NearMap and other attribution licenses that have been used and thus can in general remain in Potlatch, Josm and the other editiors. That however does still leave the substantial portion of mappers who have ticked the I declare my edits to be PD option, which surely makes them no longer compatible with these sources. These mappers therefore then presumably can not use those sources without being in breach of contract or license. So it seems editors will need to keep track of background image licenses anyway and with what they are compatible in order to warn or prevent the user in an adequate way. Luckily, the user details API call has recently received an update to include the information of if users have accepted the CT and if they declared their edits PD. Which means editors can be updated so that they only display the options compatible with the users current choice of license. But yes, I think editors should be updated as soon as possible as to not easily trap newbies and those mappers who don't want to be concerned with legal matters into doing something illegal. Kai -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/OSM-legal-talk-New-contributors-and-some-data-sources-are-not-allowed-under-the-CTs-but-too-easy-to--tp5441594p5441934.html Sent from the Legal Talk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New contributors and some data sources are not allowed under the CTs but too easy to access.
Hi, Kai Krueger wrote: That however does still leave the substantial portion of mappers who have ticked the I declare my edits to be PD option, which surely makes them no longer compatible with these sources. These mappers therefore then presumably can not use those sources without being in breach of contract or license. Dunno - according to your logic, a mapper who declares his edits PD would not be allowed to edit an object that a non-PD mapper has created (because what the PD mapper uploads would be based on a non-PD source). Personally, I view the I declare my edits PD button as reading I hereby declare that I will not pursue copyright on any copyrightable action I might make in OSM which does not mean that all third-party copyright in something I touch become automatically void. 388 users have declared their edits to be PD on the Wiki for a long time, and I don't think any of them have restricted their editing to PD sources exclusively. So it seems editors will need to keep track of background image licenses anyway and with what they are compatible in order to warn or prevent the user in an adequate way. No, I don't think so. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New contributors and some data sources are not allowed under the CTs but too easy to access.
On 20 August 2010 06:35, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: 388 users have declared their edits to be PD on the Wiki for a long time, and I don't think any of them have restricted their editing to PD sources exclusively. On the other hand I know some mappers that only ever map from their own GPS data, so they aren't likely to load layers any way. However this is off topic, my concern is with innocent mistakes, and protecting those users from themselves. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
