Re: [OSM-legal-talk] using openstreetmap

2009-04-17 Thread Liz
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Shaun McDonald wrote:
>  it's just a problem of having no mappers or  
> community in the more remote parts of the country.

We also have a number of areas which have got streets with no names. These 
have been traced (? from aerial photos) and until someone actually visits on 
the ground we don't have complete or accurate data.
I checked intellitrac's site, and I don't think that in 2009 we have good 
enough data for such a purpose.

Liz

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] using openstreetmap

2009-04-16 Thread Shaun McDonald

On 17 Apr 2009, at 00:32, Mohamad Ali wrote:

>>>
>>> Mohamad,
>>> right now we don't have enough coverage in Australia for you to be  
>>> using
> OSM
>>> for tracking purposes.
>>> But do you have tracks and other data that could be contributed?
>>> Liz
>
>
> Hi Liz
> Do you mean by ' don't have enough coverage in Australia '  that the  
> maps
> are not updated??
> Because I noticed that

The maps in Australia are obviously quite good in the major cities  
considering that Flickr are using OSM instead of the Yahoo maps. There  
is an increasing community appearing in Australia. The maps are  
constantly being updated, it's just a problem of having no mappers or  
community in the more remote parts of the country.

Shaun


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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] using openstreetmap

2009-04-16 Thread Mohamad Ali
>>
>>Mohamad, 
>>right now we don't have enough coverage in Australia for you to be using
OSM 
>> for tracking purposes.
>> But do you have tracks and other data that could be contributed?
>>Liz


Hi Liz
Do you mean by ' don't have enough coverage in Australia '  that the maps
are not updated??
Because I noticed that
Thanks
mohamad


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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] using openstreetmap

2009-04-16 Thread Liz
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009, Mohamad Ali wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am a software developer from  Australia,
>
> 1.We develop a tracking system used for GPS devices, so we display the
> vehicles on map in real time,..
>
> My question is : what are the terms and conditions of using ' OpenStreetMap
> ' for a tracking system?
>
> I mean can we use it  for commercial use?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your time
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Mohamad

Mohamad, 
right now we don't have enough coverage in Australia for you to be using OSM 
for tracking purposes.
But do you have tracks and other data that could be contributed?
Liz

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] using openstreetmap

2009-04-16 Thread Shaun McDonald

On 16 Apr 2009, at 04:15, Mohamad Ali wrote:

 If you don't want the hassle of setting up your own server and  
 you are
 likely to have enough demand, you can look for a company that  
 provides
 a service of serving you tiles.
>
 Disclaimer: I work for one such company, (CloudMade) that provides
 custom styles, as one of their services.
>
 Shaun
>
> Hi Shaun
> Can u explain me more about your company?

I work for a company called CloudMade, search online if you want more  
information.

> If u can't here,
> That's my email: mohamad@intellitrac.com.au
>
> My questions are :
> Do u provide a free api service?

Our current products are available from:
http://cloudmade.com/products

> Do u provide a hosting  tiling server for free?

For the time being the service is free, you can come and speak to us  
if you are wanting a service guarantee.
http://developers.cloudmade.com/projects/show/tiles

Shaun


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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] using openstreetmap

2009-04-15 Thread Mohamad Ali
>>> If you don't want the hassle of setting up your own server and you are  
>>> likely to have enough demand, you can look for a company that provides  
>>> a service of serving you tiles.

>>> Disclaimer: I work for one such company, (CloudMade) that provides  
>>>  custom styles, as one of their services.

>>> Shaun

Hi Shaun
Can u explain me more about your company?
If u can't here, 
That's my email: mohamad@intellitrac.com.au

My questions are :
Do u provide a free api service?
Do u provide a hosting  tiling server for free?

Thanks
 


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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] using openstreetmap

2009-04-15 Thread Shaun McDonald

On 15 Apr 2009, at 10:56, Jukka Rahkonen wrote:

> Frederik Ramm  writes:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Mohamad Ali wrote:
>>> 1.We develop a tracking system used for GPS devices, so we display  
>>> the
>>> vehicles on map in real time,..
> ...
>>> My question is : what are the terms and conditions of using '  
>>> OpenStreetMap
>>> ' for a tracking system?
>>> I mean can we use it  for commercial use?
>>
>> Yes, commercial use is unrestricted.
>
> This does not mean that the use of servers serving OSM maps is  
> unrestricted.
> Prepare to set up an own server or to build other kind of system  
> based on static
> maps.

If you don't want the hassle of setting up your own server and you are  
likely to have enough demand, you can look for a company that provides  
a service of serving you tiles.

Disclaimer: I work for one such company, (CloudMade) that provides  
custom styles, as one of their services.

Shaun


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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] using openstreetmap

2009-04-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

Jukka Rahkonen wrote:
> This does not mean that the use of servers serving OSM maps is unrestricted.
> Prepare to set up an own server or to build other kind of system based on 
> static
> maps.

Jukka is of course right; the use of OSM for commercial purposes is 
legally unrestricted, but if your application places a noticeable load 
on the OSM tile servers, you will sooner or later be asked to host your 
own tiles. This is not a legal restriction with OSM in general but a 
restriction concering the servers you download your tiles from.

Bye
Frederik


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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] using openstreetmap

2009-04-15 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Frederik Ramm  writes:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> Mohamad Ali wrote:
> > 1.We develop a tracking system used for GPS devices, so we display the
> > vehicles on map in real time,..
...
> > My question is : what are the terms and conditions of using ' OpenStreetMap
> > ' for a tracking system?
> > I mean can we use it  for commercial use?
> 
> Yes, commercial use is unrestricted. 

This does not mean that the use of servers serving OSM maps is unrestricted.
Prepare to set up an own server or to build other kind of system based on static
maps.




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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] using openstreetmap

2009-04-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

Mohamad Ali wrote:
> 1.We develop a tracking system used for GPS devices, so we display the
> vehicles on map in real time,..

Can we have your tracks ;-)

> My question is : what are the terms and conditions of using ' OpenStreetMap
> ' for a tracking system?
> 
> I mean can we use it  for commercial use?

Yes, commercial use is unrestricted. The license only requires that you 
say where you got the data from, and if you make a derived product - for 
example a large poster with an OSM map where all the roads ever traveled 
by the devices you monitor are highlighted - then that product has to be 
licensed under the same terms as OSM itself, that is, CC-BY-SA 2.0. 
Which does not mean that you have to make your picture publicly 
available but if you do give it to someone, then they have the right to 
further use or distribute it (including your additions) in any way they 
like.

Bye
Frederik

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[OSM-legal-talk] using openstreetmap

2009-04-14 Thread Mohamad Ali
Hi

I am a software developer from  Australia,

1.We develop a tracking system used for GPS devices, so we display the
vehicles on map in real time,..

My question is : what are the terms and conditions of using ' OpenStreetMap
' for a tracking system?

I mean can we use it  for commercial use?

 

Thanks for your time

 

Regards

Mohamad

 

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