Re: Bootscript patches

2007-07-05 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 7/4/07, DJ Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
  I suppose this is a little OT, but it's semi-related. Has anyone ever
  considered adding chkconfig or a custom equivalent to our bootscripts
  package? It would definitely make management and administration of the
  installed scripts easier
 Considered?  Yeah.  When I was working on the LSB-v3 scripts, I had
 started on a bash version of install_initd and remove_initd, using a
 functions file that could have been sourced by other scripts should the
 need arise.  I lost scope about 3 arrays deep, while trying to keep the
 disk reads and writes at program start and exit only.  I decided that
 bash really wasn't suitable and gave up on it.

DJ, I meant to tell you that I wrote a sorta install_initd. It takes
some shortcuts by not actually calculating the dependencies and
instead using a runlevel extension for everything. But it's made my
life a lot easier since I did it. I briefly looked at chkconfig before
this.

http://gitweb.dwcab.com/?p=gado-bootscripts.git;a=blob;f=lfs/scripts/install_initd;hb=HEAD
http://gitweb.dwcab.com/?p=gado-bootscripts.git;a=blob;f=lfs/init.d/initd-functions;hb=HEAD

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Re: [nex-xsl] What to do?

2007-07-05 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 7/4/07, M.Canales.es [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 El Miércoles, 4 de Julio de 2007 22:59, Bruce Dubbs escribió:

  Manuel,
I know that you have been working hard on the updates, but options 2
  and 3 seem to be even more work.  On top of that, I suspect we will want
  to go to the next stable release when it is available, so a lot of the
  work done for options 2 and 3 would only be useful for a few months.

 With option 3 we could forgot about depending on upstream releases, if wanted,
 before migrating in a not-so-long future to DocBook-XML-5.0, that will be a
 more big work than the current one in both, the book sources and the
 stylesheets code.

I think this would be the best. It gives maximum flexibility if the
stylesheets we use are local to our repos. This also solves the issue
of people having different versions of the stylesheets installed. So
long as someone (Manuel) tracks upstream to fold any updates into our
local copies, then this seems like the best solution, IMO.

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Re: initramfs support

2007-07-05 Thread Bryan Kadzban
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Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
 Create filesystems on /dev/hda1, /dev/myvg/{root,home}, mount them,
 transfer LFS there. Swap on LVM should also work out of the box.

I created LVM on /dev/mapper/hpt*2, leaving /dev/mapper/hpt*1 as /boot.
I then created root and swap LVs on the VG.

 Install GRUB as you would normally do.

I had some issues with the grub shell's setup -- it got stuck in some
kind of long (or infinite) loop.  Ctrl+C interrupted grub inside the VM,
though, so I don't think it was an issue with qemu.  OTOH, restarting
qemu with kqemu loaded fixed it.  I don't know if just restarting the
qemu process was the ultimate fix, or if kqemu was.

Anyway, whatever.  It got installed successfully, and required changes
to the initramfs have been checked in.

 In initramfs and bootscripts, do (just after dmraid, or, if there is
 no dmraid, just after udev):
 
 vgchange -ay --ignorelockingfailure # in both places, just in case 
 vgmknodes   # only in bootscripts

I also needed an --ignorelockingfailures on the vgmknodes in the bootscript.

 Some distributions attempt to deactivate LVM and dmraid in their
 shutdown sequence with the following commands:
 
 vgchange -an --ignorelockingfailure
 dmraid -an -i

Is there any downside that you know of if they don't get deactivated?
If not, it's simpler to leave them up.

 Things become a bit more complicated if there is no /boot partition.

I'd be happy with requiring a /boot partition, but I'm not sure about
the users.  For the first version, anyway (or until grub supports LVM,
if it ever will).

 BTW, LVM on /dev/mapper/hpt* is also a valid setup - please make
 sure that it works with your initramfs.

Yep, that works.  :-)

I assume dmraid-on-LVM won't work (and therefore shouldn't need to be
supported), right?  I doubt any onboard RAID controller has a clue about
LVM, so I don't think they'll put their signatures in the right place.

 Once we have this working, the next task is hibernation.

I *think* there's some support in the initramfs for this already, since
its /init was copied from the livecd.  (At least, I left the do_resume
part in, and the code that calls it.)  But I don't know how good that
support is.

I assume I'll need some kind of userspace tools to actually suspend a
qemu virtual machine, to test it?  And I assume I'll need some kind of
swap space to suspend to?  LVM swap over dmraid is probably the most
complicated setup, but I bet the initramfs will handle this already.

Well, wait, no it won't -- it'll need stat from the host to get the
major and minor number out of the device file (or symlink).  That's a
fairly easy change to mkinitramfs.in though.  Let me know how you'd want
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Re: [nex-xsl] What to do?

2007-07-05 Thread M.Canales.es
El Jueves, 5 de Julio de 2007 15:40, Dan Nicholson escribió:

 I think this would be the best. It gives maximum flexibility if the
 stylesheets we use are local to our repos. This also solves the issue
 of people having different versions of the stylesheets installed. So
 long as someone (Manuel) tracks upstream to fold any updates into our
 local copies, then this seems like the best solution, IMO.

Looks like there is some type of consensus. I will start working on the 
migration today.

Many thaks for the replies and comments.

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Re: time for syslog-ng? (was Re: klogd)

2007-07-05 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 5/22/07, Greg Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bruce Dubbs wrote:

  Just to add to this, anduin has been running with syslog-ng from the
  beginning and it has never had a problem.

 Here's a relevant post:

 http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2005-February/050643.html

 But AFAICT the sysklogd maintainership hasn't really improved.. Not that
 that's a huge problem. After all, what we currently have works reasonable
 well.

I just read that Fedora has decided to take the plunge and replace
sysklogd as their default syslog.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue94#head-f55df1c4e39b27afc053b435a85088e5aec25a84

Anyway, they've decided to use rsyslog since it maintains a compatible
interface to sysklogd and the conf file wouldn't have to change.

http://www.rsyslog.com/

I haven't looked into it yet, but it seems promising and active.

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Util-linux-ng

2007-07-05 Thread Dan Nicholson
A while back, the Fedora util-linux maintainer decided to fork
util-linux since upstream was basically dead and not accepting patches
back. So, here is util-linux-ng:

http://userweb.kernel.org/~kzak/util-linux-ng/

It's very active, AFAICT. The first 2.13 release candidate was just announced.

http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.utilities.util-linux-ng/

I suggest we move to this new package when 2.13 is released. Thoughts?

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Re: [nex-xsl] What to do?

2007-07-05 Thread M.Canales.es
El Miércoles, 4 de Julio de 2007 22:59, Bruce Dubbs escribió:


 Do you have any insight into why there will be no 1.72.1 release?


Apart the comments in the commits and some developer's post in docbook-apps 
saying that 1.73.0 will be released soon. I think that the main reason that 
they have to not do yet a *.1 release is that the nest stable version is 
supossed to support natively DocBook-XML-5.0.

Thus, how can a XSL release be called stable if there is no stable 
DocBook-XML-5.0 yet?


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Re: Util-linux-ng

2007-07-05 Thread Joe Ciccone
Dan Nicholson wrote:
 A while back, the Fedora util-linux maintainer decided to fork
 util-linux since upstream was basically dead and not accepting patches
 back. So, here is util-linux-ng:

 http://userweb.kernel.org/~kzak/util-linux-ng/

 It's very active, AFAICT. The first 2.13 release candidate was just announced.

 http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.utilities.util-linux-ng/

 I suggest we move to this new package when 2.13 is released. Thoughts?
   
One thing that Chris brought up on IRC. for /tools, mount  umount now 
both depend on libblkid (from e2fsprogs) or libvolume_id (from udev). A 
quick way to just get blkid out of e2fsprogs: ./configure 
--prefix=/tools  make -C lib/blkid  make -C lib/blkid install. Then 
util linux is just: ./configure --prefix=/tools  make -C mount mount 
umount  make -C text-utils more  cp them into /tools.

I definitely agree that all the *lfs books should move to this after 
it's released.
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Re: Util-linux-ng

2007-07-05 Thread Matthew Burgess
On Thursday 05 July 2007 19:11:41 Joe Ciccone wrote:

 One thing that Chris brought up on IRC. for /tools, mount  umount now
 both depend on libblkid (from e2fsprogs) or libvolume_id (from udev).

Yeah, I saw this too.  It's not the most popular of changes though (see 
http://www.mail-archive.com/util-linux-ng%40vger.kernel.org/msg00350.html and 
David Miller's reply).  So, we might see a package agnostic filesystem 
detection library, possibly even before util-linux-2.13 is out.  Anyway, I 
agree - from the comments and patches I've seen from a brief glance at the 
mailing list archives for util-linux-ng, that package has been in need of a 
lot of TLC for a long time now so we'd do well to pick up the new releases 
fairly quickly.

Regards,

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LFS is now using the new stylesheets

2007-07-05 Thread M.Canales.es
Hi,

I just finished to update the LFS book sources to use the new stylesheets. 

NOTE: I'm not sure if the script that generates the on-line book need be 
adjusted to use the new code properly.

The Makefile has been also re-factored. There is a new all target and a new 
ROOT_ID variable.

The ROOT_ID variable is very cool. It allow to render only a part of the book 
based on the given Id value. For example:

make ROOT_ID=ch-system-glibc lfs

will render only the chapter06/glibc.html file. That work also for PDF output, 
but FOP will emit several warnings.

Maybe there is some bugs. I hope we can find and fix them quickly.

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Re: LFS is now using the new stylesheets

2007-07-05 Thread Dan Nicholson
On Fri, Jul 06, 2007 at 12:47:34AM +0200, M.Canales.es wrote:
 
 The Makefile has been also re-factored. There is a new all target and a new 
 ROOT_ID variable.

Looks nice. I sort of like seeing the commands being run, though. This 
makes it configurable by setting the variable V.

$ make lfs V=1

What do you think?

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---
 BOOK/Makefile |   52 +---
 1 files changed, 29 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-)

diff --git a/BOOK/Makefile b/BOOK/Makefile
index 8710618..ed672ea 100644
--- a/BOOK/Makefile
+++ b/BOOK/Makefile
@@ -5,85 +5,91 @@ ROOT_ID=
 PDF_OUTPUT=LFS-BOOK.pdf
 NOCHUNKS_OUTPUT=LFS-BOOK.html
 
+ifdef V
+Q =
+else
+Q = @
+endif
+
 lfs: validxml profile-html
@echo Generating chunked XHTML files...
-   @xsltproc --nonet -stringparam chunk.quietly $(CHUNK_QUIET) \
+   $(Q)xsltproc --nonet -stringparam chunk.quietly $(CHUNK_QUIET) \
  -stringparam rootid $(ROOT_ID) -stringparam base.dir $(BASEDIR)/ \
  stylesheets/lfs-chunked.xsl /tmp/lfs-html.xml
 
@echo Copying CSS code and images...
-   @if [ ! -e $(BASEDIR)/stylesheets ]; then \
+   $(Q)if [ ! -e $(BASEDIR)/stylesheets ]; then \
  mkdir -p $(BASEDIR)/stylesheets; \
fi;
-   @cp stylesheets/lfs-xsl/*.css $(BASEDIR)/stylesheets
-   @if [ ! -e $(BASEDIR)/images ]; then \
+   $(Q)cp stylesheets/lfs-xsl/*.css $(BASEDIR)/stylesheets
+   $(Q)if [ ! -e $(BASEDIR)/images ]; then \
  mkdir -p $(BASEDIR)/images; \
fi;
-   @cp images/*.png $(BASEDIR)/images
-   @cd $(BASEDIR)/; sed -i -e [EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@g 
*.html
-   @cd $(BASEDIR)/; sed -i -e [EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@g 
*.html
+   $(Q)cp images/*.png $(BASEDIR)/images
+   $(Q)cd $(BASEDIR)/; sed -i -e [EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@g 
*.html
+   $(Q)cd $(BASEDIR)/; sed -i -e [EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@g 
*.html
 
@echo Running Tidy...
-   @for filename in `find $(BASEDIR) -name *.html`; do \
+   $(Q)for filename in `find $(BASEDIR) -name *.html`; do \
  tidy -config tidy.conf $$filename; \
  true; \
  sh obfuscate.sh $$filename; \
  sed -i -e [EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
$$filename; \
done;
 
-   @$(MAKE) wget-list
+   $(Q)$(MAKE) wget-list
 
 pdf: validxml
@echo Generating profiled XML for PDF...
-   @xsltproc --nonet --stringparam profile.condition pdf \
+   $(Q)xsltproc --nonet --stringparam profile.condition pdf \
  --output /tmp/lfs-pdf.xml stylesheets/lfs-xsl/profile.xsl \
  /tmp/lfs-full.xml
 
@echo Generating FO file...
-   @xsltproc --nonet -stringparam rootid $(ROOT_ID) \
+   $(Q)xsltproc --nonet -stringparam rootid $(ROOT_ID) \
  --output /tmp//lfs-pdf.fo stylesheets/lfs-pdf.xsl /tmp/lfs-pdf.xml
-   @sed -i -e 's/span=inherit/span=all/' /tmp/lfs-pdf.fo
+   $(Q)sed -i -e 's/span=inherit/span=all/' /tmp/lfs-pdf.fo
 
@echo Generating PDF file...
-   @fop /tmp/lfs-pdf.fo $(BASEDIR)/$(PDF_OUTPUT)
+   $(Q)fop /tmp/lfs-pdf.fo $(BASEDIR)/$(PDF_OUTPUT)
 
 nochunks: validxml profile-html
@echo Generating non chunked XHTML file...
-   @xsltproc --nonet -stringparam profile.condition html \
+   $(Q)xsltproc --nonet -stringparam profile.condition html \
  -stringparam rootid $(ROOT_ID) --output $(BASEDIR)/$(NOCHUNKS_OUTPUT) 
\
  stylesheets/lfs-nochunks.xsl /tmp/lfs-html.xml
 
@echo Running Tidy...
-   @tidy -config tidy.conf $(BASEDIR)/$(NOCHUNKS_OUTPUT) || true
-   @sh obfuscate.sh $(BASEDIR)/$(NOCHUNKS_OUTPUT)
-   @sed -i -e [EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]  \
+   $(Q)tidy -config tidy.conf $(BASEDIR)/$(NOCHUNKS_OUTPUT) || true
+   $(Q)sh obfuscate.sh $(BASEDIR)/$(NOCHUNKS_OUTPUT)
+   $(Q)sed -i -e [EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]  \
  $(BASEDIR)/$(NOCHUNKS_OUTPUT)
 
 validxml:
@echo Validating the book...
-   @xmllint --nonet --noent --xinclude --postvalid \
+   $(Q)xmllint --nonet --noent --xinclude --postvalid \
  -o /tmp/lfs-full.xml index.xml
 
 profile-html: validxml
@echo Generating profiled XML for XHTML...
-   @xsltproc --nonet --stringparam profile.condition html \
+   $(Q)xsltproc --nonet --stringparam profile.condition html \
  --output /tmp/lfs-html.xml stylesheets/lfs-xsl/profile.xsl \
  /tmp/lfs-full.xml
 
 wget-list:
@echo Generating wget list...
-   @mkdir -p $(BASEDIR)
-   @xsltproc --xinclude --nonet --output $(BASEDIR)/wget-list \
+   $(Q)mkdir -p $(BASEDIR)
+   $(Q)xsltproc --xinclude --nonet --output $(BASEDIR)/wget-list \
  stylesheets/wget-list.xsl chapter03/chapter03.xml
 
 dump-commands:
@echo Dumping book commands...
-   @xsltproc --xinclude --nonet --output $(DUMPDIR)/ \
+   $(Q)xsltproc 

Re: initramfs support

2007-07-05 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Bryan Kadzban wrote:

 Is there any downside that you know of if they don't get deactivated?
 If not, it's simpler to leave them up.

I don't know the downside.

 Things become a bit more complicated if there is no /boot partition.
 
 I'd be happy with requiring a /boot partition, but I'm not sure about
 the users.  For the first version, anyway (or until grub supports LVM,
 if it ever will).

This change belongs to the book, not to the initramfs setup. I guess that 
the existing script will just work if you install LILO.

 BTW, LVM on /dev/mapper/hpt* is also a valid setup - please make
 sure that it works with your initramfs.
 
 Yep, that works.  :-)

Congratulations :)

 I assume dmraid-on-LVM won't work

Correct, this setup is not valid.

 I assume I'll need some kind of userspace tools to actually suspend a
 qemu virtual machine, to test it?  And I assume I'll need some kind of
 swap space to suspend to?  LVM swap over dmraid is probably the most
 complicated setup, but I bet the initramfs will handle this already.
 
 Well, wait, no it won't -- it'll need stat from the host to get the
 major and minor number out of the device file (or symlink).  That's a
 fairly easy change to mkinitramfs.in though.  Let me know how you'd want
 to test it.

Install the hibernate-script package, version 1.91 (version 1.93 has a 
bug, and I have not tested any later versions): 
http://at-mirror.suspend2.net/downloads/all/hibernate-script-1.91.tar.gz

You will need this patch: 
http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/livecd/browser/trunk/packages/hibernate-script/hibernate-script-1.91-lfs-3.patch?format=txt

The installation procedure is:

rm -rf /etc/hibernate
patch -Np1 -i ../hibernate-script-1.91-lfs-3.patch
yes | PREFIX=/usr MAN_DIR=/usr/share/man ./install.sh

The actual setup is:

1) Add resume=/dev/myvg/swap to the kernel arguments in menu.lst
2) Make sure that /dev/myvg/swap is mentioned as swap space in /etc/fstab
3) Run hibernate and boot again.

If step 3 fails with acpi_pm_prepare does not support 4 in dmesg, run 
echo shutdown /sys/power/disk and retry.

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SVN tarball and conglomeration updates

2007-07-05 Thread William Harrington
Hello all,

   Going through a SVN build: SVN 20070630

The old tarball still exists and is from 20070623

Just matching up conglomeration with the ChangeLog:

man-pages-2.60 not in conglomeration
less-406 is not in conglomeration
Libtool-1.5.24 is not in conglomeration
Tar-1.18 is not in conglomeration
Texinfo-4.9 is not in conglomeration
Udev-113 is not in conglomeration

I'm not sure how the systems are configured for updates to the
repository, just giving a heads up.

When is the svn tarball regenerated?

Sincerely,

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Re: initramfs support

2007-07-05 Thread Bryan Kadzban
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Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
 Install the hibernate-script package, version 1.91 (version 1.93
 has a bug, and I have not tested any later versions): 
 http://at-mirror.suspend2.net/downloads/all/hibernate-script-1.91.tar.gz

OK, I saw that in the livecd repo, along with the patch.  I'm not about
to look through the hibernate script to see how it does whatever it
does, though, so I'll just install it, using your instructions.

 1) Add resume=/dev/myvg/swap to the kernel arguments in menu.lst

Which causes the initramfs to echo the major:minor of the LV into
/sys/power/resume -- however, the kernel I built doesn't have a
/sys/power/resume file.  I assume I missed some build option that would
create it?

Oh, OK, that's exactly what happened.  The resume file is only created
if CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND is turned on, but that depends on either
!CONFIG_SMP, or CONFIG_SUSPEND_SMP.  (Apparently it doesn't work to
suspend or resume with 1 CPU if the kernel can't shut them down
individually.)  I had CONFIG_SMP on (since the kernel was originally
running on a dual-core CPU), but CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU off (since I don't
hot-plug CPUs, and it's marked experimental).

Turning HOTPLUG_CPU off disables SUSPEND_SMP, which then disables
SOFTWARE_SUSPEND; turning HOTPLUG_CPU back on let me turn on
SOFTWARE_SUSPEND, and now that I've turned that on and recompiled, the
resume file is there.  So that's all set now.

 2) Make sure that /dev/myvg/swap is mentioned as swap space in
 /etc/fstab

It is.  :-)

 3) Run hibernate and boot again.

This will be the real test, of course -- I may get to it tomorrow, or it
may be on Saturday (assuming nothing else comes up).  Will post back
once I get something committed and tested.
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coreutils niggle

2007-07-05 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Heya,

Posting here instead of creating a ticket because maybe someone knows 
off-hand what the deal is here. Currently for coreutils in chapter 6 we 
have the command:

chmod +x tests/sort/sort-mb-tests

But after unpacking the source and adding the appropriate patches all I 
see is:

tests/sort/sort-tests

Can anyone confirm this? I'm not familiar with the history of this 
command...

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Re: coreutils niggle

2007-07-05 Thread Chris Staub
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
 Heya,
 
 Posting here instead of creating a ticket because maybe someone knows 
 off-hand what the deal is here. Currently for coreutils in chapter 6 we 
 have the command:
 
 chmod +x tests/sort/sort-mb-tests
 
 But after unpacking the source and adding the appropriate patches all I 
 see is:
 
 tests/sort/sort-tests
 
 Can anyone confirm this? I'm not familiar with the history of this 
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Re: coreutils niggle

2007-07-05 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Chris Staub wrote:
 sort-mb-tests should be added by the i18n patch.


Of course. Should have known I was missing something. Thanks, Chris.

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