Re: [lfs-dev] Thoughts about LFS and systemd

2014-03-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote:
> On 03/25/2014 05:22 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
>> I've been looking at systemd and had a thought that perhaps both could
>> be put into a single LFS build.  Looking at the installed package
>> contents in the books, I see the following name collisions:
>>
>> systemd  sysvinit eudev
>> udevd
>> udevadm   udevadm
>> halt halt
>> init init
>> poweroff poweroff
>> reboot   reboot
>> runlevel runlevel
>> shutdown shutdown
>> telinit  telinit
>>
>> I don't know if udevd is missing from the systemd page or is really not
>> installed when doing a systemd build, but I suspect it has just been
>> omitted from the page.
>>

> It's named systemd-udevd and it's installed in /lib/systemd.

Ah, yes.  The change in name seems unnecessary, but I remember now.  A 
symlink might be appropriate if this approach turns out to be feasible.

   -- Bruce

>> In any case, this cursory look indicates to me that both could be
>> installed with custom names and a script written to swap the names and
>> reboot to the desired system.  I also suspect a sysV initialization
>> could use the systemd version of udev and eudev would not be necessary.
>>
>> I have not looked at boot scripts or possibly different build options in
>> other programs, but wanted to throw out the idea for comments.
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Re: [lfs-dev] Thoughts about LFS and systemd

2014-03-25 Thread Armin K.
On 03/25/2014 05:22 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> I've been looking at systemd and had a thought that perhaps both could 
> be put into a single LFS build.  Looking at the installed package 
> contents in the books, I see the following name collisions:
> 
> systemd  sysvinit eudev
>udevd
> udevadm   udevadm
> halt halt
> init init
> poweroff poweroff
> reboot   reboot
> runlevel runlevel
> shutdown shutdown
> telinit  telinit
> 
> I don't know if udevd is missing from the systemd page or is really not 
> installed when doing a systemd build, but I suspect it has just been 
> omitted from the page.
> 

It's named systemd-udevd and it's installed in /lib/systemd.

> In any case, this cursory look indicates to me that both could be 
> installed with custom names and a script written to swap the names and 
> reboot to the desired system.  I also suspect a sysV initialization 
> could use the systemd version of udev and eudev would not be necessary.
> 
> I have not looked at boot scripts or possibly different build options in 
> other programs, but wanted to throw out the idea for comments.
> 
>-- Bruce
> 


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[lfs-dev] Thoughts about LFS and systemd

2014-03-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I've been looking at systemd and had a thought that perhaps both could 
be put into a single LFS build.  Looking at the installed package 
contents in the books, I see the following name collisions:

systemd  sysvinit eudev
   udevd
udevadm   udevadm
halt halt
init init
poweroff poweroff
reboot   reboot
runlevel runlevel
shutdown shutdown
telinit  telinit

I don't know if udevd is missing from the systemd page or is really not 
installed when doing a systemd build, but I suspect it has just been 
omitted from the page.

In any case, this cursory look indicates to me that both could be 
installed with custom names and a script written to swap the names and 
reboot to the desired system.  I also suspect a sysV initialization 
could use the systemd version of udev and eudev would not be necessary.

I have not looked at boot scripts or possibly different build options in 
other programs, but wanted to throw out the idea for comments.

   -- Bruce
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