Re: [liberationtech] GNUnet 0.11.0pre66 released - Next Generation Internet Prototype

[willi uebelherr]

Dear friends,

i try to understand, how gnunet is working in his technical design. It 
is not easy to find the core information. Many things around we can find.


And what is gnURL in his technical design?

In the list of infotropique (ng0, Nils Gillmann) i have asked the same 
question: For what you work and what is your technical goal?


I have explained there my position:
"For me, independent of all this shit definitions, what we have, exist 
only 2 layers in the telecommunication: transport and application. The 
InterNet, "the Inter-connection of local Net-works", is only a transport 
system for digital data in paketform. And it is clear, if the mafia and 
gangsters organise this transport system as a interconnection of 
star-structures, and not as net-structures, then we have all this 
problems, what you want to go around with your software layer."


With the "shit definition" i mean the star-structure with datacenters 
(IXPs) and the virtual address in any number-space. We have to separate 
the transport requirements from the application requirements. Based on 
that we can act between the communication partners from mm to thousands 
km. And we need in general symetrical transport capacity in both direction.


This nonsense of TCP/UDP we don't need, if we move the error-checking 
and -handling completely and transparent in the transport level. 
Therefore we work only with IP-pakets. And in the transport system for 
us only the IP-header (the label on the paket) is important. The data we 
don't need for transport navigation. But this is only possible, if we 
use the geografical defined IP address for the local network. Then we 
don't need IANA/ICANN and all this nonsense institutions. Only the RFCs 
we need.


Based on this, i have big problems to understand the gnunet project.

many greetings, willi
Asuncion, Paraguay


Am 7/6/2018 um 06:10 schrieb carlo von lynX:

Since it's been four years waiting, I forward this FYI.
To reduce the four year figure in the future, maybe more
people should work on this. File under: Next Generation
Internet, properly designed alternatives to current
blockchain codebases, foundational work for distributed,
not just decentralized networking. If you wonder why we'd
need a new Internet, https://secushare.org/broken-internet

- Forwarded message from Christian Grothoff  -

Dear all,

We are pleased to announce the release of GNUnet 0.11.0pre66. This is a
pre-release to assist developers and downstream packagers to test the
package before the final release after four years of development.

In terms of usability, users should be aware that there are still a very
large number of known open issues in particular with respect to ease of
use, but also some critical privacy issues especially for mobile users.
Also, the nascent network is tiny (~200 peers) and thus unlikely to
provide good anonymity or extensive amounts of interesting information.
As a result, the 0.11.0 release and especially this pre-release are only
suitable for early adopters with some reasonable pain tolerance.


License change
==

GNUnet 0.11.0pre66 is the first release that will be made under the
GNU Affero General Public License v3+.  After a significant amount of
internal discussion lead constructively by Lynx (thanks!), the
conclusion has been that the IPC and REST APIs should be extended with
support for an GNUNET_MESSAGE_TYPE_AGPL or /agpl request that enables
users of these client/service-style APIs to download the source code.

Naturally, the discussion on licensing may not necessarily end here, but
at this point we are not aware of any dissent in the community and this
release seems to be the right time to make such a change. While the
final decision was not subjected to a broad feedback round, this was
done simply on the grounds that this placement of the AGPL API seems to
addresses all concerns that were raised. Finally, thanks to the
copyright assignment all developers are participating in, the community
will be able to revise this decision later if necessary.

It should also be noted that this change does not impose additional
restrictions on the licensing models of GNU Taler or pEp: both projects
have agreements with GNUnet e.V. that ensure that they can make
decisions that fit these applications (not to mention significant parts
of GNU Taler are already AGPLv3+ already).



About GNUnet


GNUnet is a framework for secure peer-to-peer networking. GNUnet's
primary design goals are to protect the privacy of its users and to
guard itself against attacks or abuse. At this point, GNUnet offers four
primary applications on top of the framework:

The file-sharing service allows anonymous censorship-resistant
file-sharing. Files, searches and search results are encrypted to make
it hard to control, track or censor users. GNUnet's anonymity protocol
(gap) is designed to make it difficult to link users to their
file-sharing activities. Users can also individually trade-off

Re: [liberationtech] GNUnet 0.11.0pre66 released - Next Generation Internet Prototype

[carlo von lynX]

On Fri, Jun 08, 2018 at 02:28:13PM -0400, willi uebelherr wrote:
> i try to understand, how gnunet is working in his technical design.
> It is not easy to find the core information. Many things around we
> can find.

Try 
https://media.ccc.de/v/34c3-ChaosWest-6-privacy_oriented_distributed_networking_for_an_ethical_internet_including_50_subsystems_of_gnunet

> And what is gnURL in his technical design?

Extremely unimportant detail.
curl didn't want to provide options for a stripped down
secure version, so we were forced to fork it.

> this is only possible, if we use the geografical defined IP address
> for the local network. Then we don't need IANA/ICANN and all this
> nonsense institutions. Only the RFCs we need.
> 
> Based on this, i have big problems to understand the gnunet project.

Well, imagine that instead of spoofable IP addresses we are using
cryptographic unique public keys for worldwide addressing. Therefore,
when a packet arrives, it will always arrive at the *right* destination
and always be coming from the *right* source.

Then imagine this amazing new scientific mechanism by which any pubkey
can find a route to any other pubkey on the planet, evading any
attempt of censorship if necessary. It needs no IANA, no ICANN, it
doesn't even need BGP. Just wires and airwaves and whatever legacy
stuff you have.. like HTTPS over TCP/IP.

Now think that all of that works automatically and your application
just needs to think in terms of people: I need to send a message
to Jill and a file to Marc and Suzie. And then there is this video
stream of my incoronation that a million people would like to watch.
GNUnet will find a way to Jill, Marc, Suzie without star topology
and server filtering.

So what you think we need maybe sounds like GNUnet to me.

> many greetings, willi
> Asuncion, Paraguay

Asuncion? Maybe you know my friend Roque from Rome.

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Re: [liberationtech] GNUnet 0.11.0pre66 released - Next Generation Internet Prototype

[willi uebelherr]

Dear Carlo,

many thanks for your information and your link. I will go deeper with my 
reading of your linked texts.


"Asuncion? Maybe you know my friend Roque from Rome."
I know now, very short, a person with the name Roque Vera from the 
HacklabAsu. I am not sure, it will be your friend Roque.


many greetings, willi
Asuncion, Paraguay


Am 8/6/2018 um 15:25 schrieb carlo von lynX:

On Fri, Jun 08, 2018 at 02:28:13PM -0400, willi uebelherr wrote:

i try to understand, how gnunet is working in his technical design.
It is not easy to find the core information. Many things around we
can find.


Try 
https://media.ccc.de/v/34c3-ChaosWest-6-privacy_oriented_distributed_networking_for_an_ethical_internet_including_50_subsystems_of_gnunet


And what is gnURL in his technical design?


Extremely unimportant detail.
curl didn't want to provide options for a stripped down
secure version, so we were forced to fork it.


this is only possible, if we use the geografical defined IP address
for the local network. Then we don't need IANA/ICANN and all this
nonsense institutions. Only the RFCs we need.

Based on this, i have big problems to understand the gnunet project.


Well, imagine that instead of spoofable IP addresses we are using
cryptographic unique public keys for worldwide addressing. Therefore,
when a packet arrives, it will always arrive at the *right* destination
and always be coming from the *right* source.

Then imagine this amazing new scientific mechanism by which any pubkey
can find a route to any other pubkey on the planet, evading any
attempt of censorship if necessary. It needs no IANA, no ICANN, it
doesn't even need BGP. Just wires and airwaves and whatever legacy
stuff you have.. like HTTPS over TCP/IP.

Now think that all of that works automatically and your application
just needs to think in terms of people: I need to send a message
to Jill and a file to Marc and Suzie. And then there is this video
stream of my incoronation that a million people would like to watch.
GNUnet will find a way to Jill, Marc, Suzie without star topology
and server filtering.

So what you think we need maybe sounds like GNUnet to me.


many greetings, willi
Asuncion, Paraguay


Asuncion? Maybe you know my friend Roque from Rome.


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Re: [liberationtech] GNUnet 0.11.0pre66 released - Next Generation Internet Prototype

[willi uebelherr]

Dear Carlo,

i don't like audio/video shows. I prefer more the texts. Can you give me 
one or more links to texts with the underlying technical design?


The user and developer handbooks are not valuable for that. And before i 
will go in the source-code, i need the basics philosophy and technical 
description, what you want to implement.


many greetings, willi


Am 8/6/2018 um 15:25 schrieb carlo von lynX:

On Fri, Jun 08, 2018 at 02:28:13PM -0400, willi uebelherr wrote:

i try to understand, how gnunet is working in his technical design.
It is not easy to find the core information. Many things around we
can find.


Try 
https://media.ccc.de/v/34c3-ChaosWest-6-privacy_oriented_distributed_networking_for_an_ethical_internet_including_50_subsystems_of_gnunet
... 

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