Re: [liberationtech] InvestigatingTrump.com

[Yosem Companys]

Hi Jay,

You should send it to the author Michael Ravnitzky 
rather than me. I'm just the moderator.

Best,
Yosem

On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 10:28 PM, Jay Cafasso  wrote:

> I get enough politics from Facebook. Generalized statements about any
> government leader is baloney. A specific issue is one thing. Not having a
> common frame of reference i. e. the temporary ban from specific middle east
> countries only shows the lack of understanding regarding that topic.
>
> Since you opened the door. The ban is temporary. The vetting issue was
> raised by the US DNI, D/FBI, D/CIA during Congressional testimonies during
> the Obama presidency. These security people thought a temporary halt so
> that the vetting process could be reviewed would be justified.
>
> Why did they say that? Because since 911, 20 immigrants/refugees notably
> from Iraq have been arrested by the FBI for conspiracy to commit terrorism.
>
> Of course you do not hear that from the babbling idiots we here in the
> States call a free press. I know this because part of my career involved
> chemical EOD operations in support of counterterrorism contracted to the US
> Government.
>
> If your good at a specific science. Stay there otherwise without a common
> frame of reference you'll make a fool of yourself.
>
> I have problems with President Trump and his view of pipelines under major
> rivers and his lack of concern for the environment.  Otherwise he is and
> will be no worse than the last six presidents.
>
> Regards...
>
>
>
> Jay Cafasso
> 12559 N400E
> Wheatfield, IN 46392 USA
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> On Feb 5, 2017 23:50, "Yosem Companys"  wrote:
>
>> The list is about using technology to promote democracy, development, and
>> help vulnerable populations, among other things. Some see U.S. President
>> Trump as inimical to these goals, especially with his immigrant ban, just
>> as there have been many conversations on the list about former U.S.
>> President Obama using technology for surveillance.
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 9:41 PM, Jay Cafasso 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Stupid shit! This listserv is getting further and further away from what
>>> it's stated purpose was to be. What's next ? UFO sightings?
>>>
>>> Jay Cafasso
>>> 12559 N400E
>>> Wheatfield, IN 46392 USA
>>> Cell: 219.816.0722 <(219)%20816-0722>
>>> Fax: 610-673-8495 <(610)%20673-8495>
>>> Home GPS - Lat 41.19509, Long -86.96737
>>> SN# - 36508
>>> CWOP - EW5446
>>>
>>> www.facebook.com/jay.cafasso.7
>>> Robin Storm SIT - A WRN Ambassador
>>>
>>> "The last temptation is the greatest treason: To do the right deed for
>>> the wrong reason."   Murder in the Cathedral - St. Thomas Becket.
>>>
>>> Skywarn® and the Skywarn® logo are registered trademarks of the National
>>> Weather Service "used with permission".
>>>
>>> On Feb 5, 2017 22:39, "Yosem Companys"  wrote:
>>>
 From: Michael Ravnitzky 

 Investigative Reporter Peter Lance has started a website called:

 http://www.InvestigatingTrump.com

 Michael Ravnitzky
 mike...@verizon.net

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Re: [liberationtech] InvestigatingTrump.com

[Yosem Companys]

We always send a warning before rejecting any message. So it must have been
a glitch in the system.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 2:47 AM, Carolyn Santo 
wrote:

> I like this idea.  Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
> Finding and sharing information is a good way to prevent corruption.
>
> Yosem, please don't delete my responses.  I believe the rules state that a
> member will be warned if they post something that is unacceptable.  My long
> response to comments on a past email never showed up even though I sent
> them twice.  I carefully edited them so that they were respectful in tone.
>
>
>
> On 2/5/2017 9:54 PM, ernesto ortiz wrote:
>
> Wow! we lost the opportunity to investigate Obama (specially in his last
> days), or Clinton, or whoever in the Presidency; why not
> investigatingPower.com, or PresidencyFiles.com or something like that? It
> seems that these kind of nowadays fever has more to do with this current
> Presidente than with a real interest for truth or decency or solidarity or
> even the infosec... (I mean, it looks as a partisan or ideological matter).
>
>
>
> El 6/2/17 a las 5:39 a. m., Yosem Companys escribió:
>
> From: Michael Ravnitzky 
>
> Investigative Reporter Peter Lance has started a website called:
>
> http://www.InvestigatingTrump.com
>
> Michael Ravnitzky
> mike...@verizon.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [liberationtech] InvestigatingTrump.com

[Jay Cafasso]

I get enough politics from Facebook. Generalized statements about any
government leader is baloney. A specific issue is one thing. Not having a
common frame of reference i. e. the temporary ban from specific middle east
countries only shows the lack of understanding regarding that topic.

Since you opened the door. The ban is temporary. The vetting issue was
raised by the US DNI, D/FBI, D/CIA during Congressional testimonies during
the Obama presidency. These security people thought a temporary halt so
that the vetting process could be reviewed would be justified.

Why did they say that? Because since 911, 20 immigrants/refugees notably
from Iraq have been arrested by the FBI for conspiracy to commit terrorism.

Of course you do not hear that from the babbling idiots we here in the
States call a free press. I know this because part of my career involved
chemical EOD operations in support of counterterrorism contracted to the US
Government.

If your good at a specific science. Stay there otherwise without a common
frame of reference you'll make a fool of yourself.

I have problems with President Trump and his view of pipelines under major
rivers and his lack of concern for the environment.  Otherwise he is and
will be no worse than the last six presidents.

Regards...



Jay Cafasso
12559 N400E
Wheatfield, IN 46392 USA
Cell: 219.816.0722
Fax: 610-673-8495
Home GPS - Lat 41.19509, Long -86.96737
SN# - 36508
CWOP - EW5446

www.facebook.com/jay.cafasso.7
Robin Storm SIT - A WRN Ambassador

"The last temptation is the greatest treason: To do the right deed for the
wrong reason."   Murder in the Cathedral - St. Thomas Becket.

Skywarn® and the Skywarn® logo are registered trademarks of the National
Weather Service "used with permission".

On Feb 5, 2017 23:50, "Yosem Companys"  wrote:

> The list is about using technology to promote democracy, development, and
> help vulnerable populations, among other things. Some see U.S. President
> Trump as inimical to these goals, especially with his immigrant ban, just
> as there have been many conversations on the list about former U.S.
> President Obama using technology for surveillance.
>
> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 9:41 PM, Jay Cafasso  wrote:
>
>> Stupid shit! This listserv is getting further and further away from what
>> it's stated purpose was to be. What's next ? UFO sightings?
>>
>> Jay Cafasso
>> 12559 N400E
>> Wheatfield, IN 46392 USA
>> Cell: 219.816.0722 <(219)%20816-0722>
>> Fax: 610-673-8495 <(610)%20673-8495>
>> Home GPS - Lat 41.19509, Long -86.96737
>> SN# - 36508
>> CWOP - EW5446
>>
>> www.facebook.com/jay.cafasso.7
>> Robin Storm SIT - A WRN Ambassador
>>
>> "The last temptation is the greatest treason: To do the right deed for
>> the wrong reason."   Murder in the Cathedral - St. Thomas Becket.
>>
>> Skywarn® and the Skywarn® logo are registered trademarks of the National
>> Weather Service "used with permission".
>>
>> On Feb 5, 2017 22:39, "Yosem Companys"  wrote:
>>
>>> From: Michael Ravnitzky 
>>>
>>> Investigative Reporter Peter Lance has started a website called:
>>>
>>> http://www.InvestigatingTrump.com
>>>
>>> Michael Ravnitzky
>>> mike...@verizon.net
>>>
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Re: [liberationtech] InvestigatingTrump.com

[Soenke Zehle]

would also vouch for sth less linked to the publishing activity of an
individual author

http://investigatingtrump.com/peter-lance-amazon/

2017-02-06 11:47 GMT+01:00 Carolyn Santo :
> I like this idea.  Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
> Finding and sharing information is a good way to prevent corruption.
>
> Yosem, please don't delete my responses.  I believe the rules state that a
> member will be warned if they post something that is unacceptable.  My long
> response to comments on a past email never showed up even though I sent them
> twice.  I carefully edited them so that they were respectful in tone.
>
>
>
> On 2/5/2017 9:54 PM, ernesto ortiz wrote:
>
> Wow! we lost the opportunity to investigate Obama (specially in his last
> days), or Clinton, or whoever in the Presidency; why not
> investigatingPower.com, or PresidencyFiles.com or something like that? It
> seems that these kind of nowadays fever has more to do with this current
> Presidente than with a real interest for truth or decency or solidarity or
> even the infosec... (I mean, it looks as a partisan or ideological matter).
>
>
>
> El 6/2/17 a las 5:39 a. m., Yosem Companys escribió:
>
> From: Michael Ravnitzky 
>
> Investigative Reporter Peter Lance has started a website called:
>
> http://www.InvestigatingTrump.com
>
> Michael Ravnitzky
> mike...@verizon.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [liberationtech] InvestigatingTrump.com

[Carolyn Santo]

I like this idea.  Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts 
absolutely.  Finding and sharing information is a good way to prevent 
corruption.


Yosem, please don't delete my responses.  I believe the rules state that 
a member will be warned if they post something that is unacceptable.  My 
long response to comments on a past email never showed up even though I 
sent them twice.  I carefully edited them so that they were respectful 
in tone.




On 2/5/2017 9:54 PM, ernesto ortiz wrote:


Wow! we lost the opportunity to investigate Obama (specially in his 
last days), or Clinton, or whoever in the Presidency; why not 
investigatingPower.com, or PresidencyFiles.com or something like that? 
It seems that these kind of nowadays fever has more to do with this 
current Presidente than with a real interest for truth or decency or 
solidarity or even the infosec... (I mean, it looks as a partisan or 
ideological matter).




El 6/2/17 a las 5:39 a. m., Yosem Companys escribió:
From: Michael Ravnitzky >


Investigative Reporter Peter Lance has started a website called:

http://www.InvestigatingTrump.com 

Michael Ravnitzky
mike...@verizon.net 








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Re: [liberationtech] InvestigatingTrump.com

[ernesto ortiz]

Wow! we lost the opportunity to investigate Obama (specially in his last
days), or Clinton, or whoever in the Presidency; why not
investigatingPower.com, or PresidencyFiles.com or something like that?
It seems that these kind of nowadays fever has more to do with this
current Presidente than with a real interest for truth or decency or
solidarity or even the infosec... (I mean, it looks as a partisan or
ideological matter).



El 6/2/17 a las 5:39 a. m., Yosem Companys escribió:
> From: Michael Ravnitzky mailto:mike...@verizon.net>>
>
> Investigative Reporter Peter Lance has started a website called:
>
> http://www.InvestigatingTrump.com 
>
> Michael Ravnitzky
> mike...@verizon.net 
>
>

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Re: [liberationtech] InvestigatingTrump.com

[Yosem Companys]

The list is about using technology to promote democracy, development, and
help vulnerable populations, among other things. Some see U.S. President
Trump as inimical to these goals, especially with his immigrant ban, just
as there have been many conversations on the list about former U.S.
President Obama using technology for surveillance.

On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 9:41 PM, Jay Cafasso  wrote:

> Stupid shit! This listserv is getting further and further away from what
> it's stated purpose was to be. What's next ? UFO sightings?
>
> Jay Cafasso
> 12559 N400E
> Wheatfield, IN 46392 USA
> Cell: 219.816.0722 <(219)%20816-0722>
> Fax: 610-673-8495 <(610)%20673-8495>
> Home GPS - Lat 41.19509, Long -86.96737
> SN# - 36508
> CWOP - EW5446
>
> www.facebook.com/jay.cafasso.7
> Robin Storm SIT - A WRN Ambassador
>
> "The last temptation is the greatest treason: To do the right deed for the
> wrong reason."   Murder in the Cathedral - St. Thomas Becket.
>
> Skywarn® and the Skywarn® logo are registered trademarks of the National
> Weather Service "used with permission".
>
> On Feb 5, 2017 22:39, "Yosem Companys"  wrote:
>
>> From: Michael Ravnitzky 
>>
>> Investigative Reporter Peter Lance has started a website called:
>>
>> http://www.InvestigatingTrump.com
>>
>> Michael Ravnitzky
>> mike...@verizon.net
>>
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Re: [liberationtech] InvestigatingTrump.com

[Jay Cafasso]

Stupid shit! This listserv is getting further and further away from what
it's stated purpose was to be. What's next ? UFO sightings?

Jay Cafasso
12559 N400E
Wheatfield, IN 46392 USA
Cell: 219.816.0722
Fax: 610-673-8495
Home GPS - Lat 41.19509, Long -86.96737
SN# - 36508
CWOP - EW5446

www.facebook.com/jay.cafasso.7
Robin Storm SIT - A WRN Ambassador

"The last temptation is the greatest treason: To do the right deed for the
wrong reason."   Murder in the Cathedral - St. Thomas Becket.

Skywarn® and the Skywarn® logo are registered trademarks of the National
Weather Service "used with permission".

On Feb 5, 2017 22:39, "Yosem Companys"  wrote:

> From: Michael Ravnitzky 
>
> Investigative Reporter Peter Lance has started a website called:
>
> http://www.InvestigatingTrump.com
>
> Michael Ravnitzky
> mike...@verizon.net
>
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