Re: [liberationtech] Opt out of Prism
On 6/12/13 10:21 AM, John Adams wrote: [...] This is one of the reasons why the EFF does not recommend tools. The issues associated with each tool are myriad and vast. [...] Huh? The EFF Surveillance Self Defense article, while out-of-date, does recommend tools. https://ssd.eff.org/tech -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Opt out of Prism
There are a few great places to look at your options for breaking out of tracking situations: Fix your tracking situation (to some extent): http://fixtracking.com/ Get recommendations at: http://prism-break.org/ Get more in-depth information and recommendations: https://ssd.eff.org/tech ~Griffin -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Opt out of Prism
On 12-06-13 19:21, John Adams wrote: I like that you're promoting free and open tools, but your title is misleading. You offer people false hope here. By listing the tools and not listing what level of security they offer, people will assume they can just switch and be protected. This is one of the reasons why the EFF does not recommend tools. The issues associated with each tool are myriad and vast. What's sad is that the media picked up on this, amplifying the false hope you offer. A+ for effort, though. Although I can agree that many of these tools do not offer (significant) protection against unwanted data gathering. It's good that such a list comes to the attention of the people who are worried about their privacy. Even with false hope, a society without hope is doomed... I hope some people will take time to switch to some tools and spread that knowledge further. Guido. -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Opt out of Prism
Dear friends about John Adams, i just copied the title of the website. No more, no less. 2013/6/12 Guido Witmond gu...@witmond.nl On 12-06-13 19:21, John Adams wrote: I like that you're promoting free and open tools, but your title is misleading. You offer people false hope here. By listing the tools and not listing what level of security they offer, people will assume they can just switch and be protected. This is one of the reasons why the EFF does not recommend tools. The issues associated with each tool are myriad and vast. What's sad is that the media picked up on this, amplifying the false hope you offer. A+ for effort, though. Although I can agree that many of these tools do not offer (significant) protection against unwanted data gathering. It's good that such a list comes to the attention of the people who are worried about their privacy. Even with false hope, a society without hope is doomed... I hope some people will take time to switch to some tools and spread that knowledge further. Guido. -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/**mailman/listinfo/**liberationtechhttps://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Andrea Stroppa http://huffingtonpost.com/andrea-stroppa @andst7 -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Opt out of Prism
I see many emails from journalists here about this project. I'm not the author, i'm just a visitor like you. the author's email is: p...@nylira.com (you can find on the footer) thank you! 2013/6/12 Andrea St and...@gmail.com: Dear friends about John Adams, i just copied the title of the website. No more, no less. 2013/6/12 Guido Witmond gu...@witmond.nl On 12-06-13 19:21, John Adams wrote: I like that you're promoting free and open tools, but your title is misleading. You offer people false hope here. By listing the tools and not listing what level of security they offer, people will assume they can just switch and be protected. This is one of the reasons why the EFF does not recommend tools. The issues associated with each tool are myriad and vast. What's sad is that the media picked up on this, amplifying the false hope you offer. A+ for effort, though. Although I can agree that many of these tools do not offer (significant) protection against unwanted data gathering. It's good that such a list comes to the attention of the people who are worried about their privacy. Even with false hope, a society without hope is doomed... I hope some people will take time to switch to some tools and spread that knowledge further. Guido. -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Andrea Stroppa http://huffingtonpost.com/andrea-stroppa @andst7 -- Andrea Stroppa http://huffingtonpost.com/andrea-stroppa @andst7 -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Opt out of Prism
My bad, I thought you were the author of the page. In any event, I hadn't seen the EFF SSD page and had been cautioned by EFF staffers about recommending tools. Their approach is vastly better (albeit more verbose) than just raw recommendations of products. They go into full explanations of what the tools can and cannot provide. -j On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Andrea St and...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends about John Adams, i just copied the title of the website. No more, no less. 2013/6/12 Guido Witmond gu...@witmond.nl On 12-06-13 19:21, John Adams wrote: I like that you're promoting free and open tools, but your title is misleading. You offer people false hope here. By listing the tools and not listing what level of security they offer, people will assume they can just switch and be protected. This is one of the reasons why the EFF does not recommend tools. The issues associated with each tool are myriad and vast. What's sad is that the media picked up on this, amplifying the false hope you offer. A+ for effort, though. Although I can agree that many of these tools do not offer (significant) protection against unwanted data gathering. It's good that such a list comes to the attention of the people who are worried about their privacy. Even with false hope, a society without hope is doomed... I hope some people will take time to switch to some tools and spread that knowledge further. Guido. -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/**mailman/listinfo/**liberationtechhttps://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Andrea Stroppa http://huffingtonpost.com/andrea-stroppa @andst7 -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
