Re: [liberationtech] seeking open wireless projects
Quoting Dan Auerbach (2013-07-19 23:44:13) We at EFF are writing up a taxonomy of existing open wireless commercial or non-commercial projects that have launched and would love input from folks on this list. So far we are looking at: Fon - http://corp.fon.com/ Comcast - http://corporate.comcast.com/news-information/news-feed/comcast-unveils-plans-for-millions-of-xfinity-wifi-hotspots-through-its-home-based-neighborhood-hotspot-initiative-2 Karma - https://yourkarma.com/ Ruckus - http://www.ruckuswireless.com/ KeyWifi - is this project still active? We're sure there are many more, and wanted to see if people here could help by pointing us towards launched projects to add to the list. It's hard to draw a bright line between what counts as a launched project vs, say, a technical solution. For example, we don't want to include a protocol like EAP-SIM or firmware that has optional open wireless as a launched project, but firmware that ships with default on guest networking might qualify. Any suggestions you have are great so don't hesitate to let us know about any cool thing related to open wireless, just please don't be offended if we decide not to categorize it as a launched project. Our goal is NOT to promote these solutions, but rather just to give an idea of what's out there, what desirable properties each offering has, and what properties it lacks. For example, we think decentralized solutions that have no captive portals or authentication and are universally available are preferred. We do not want to get into a discussion of the security properties of open wireless, or any discussion about the merits of one solution vs another -- we are simply seeking information on what is out there. In spain there is guifi.net with over 2 working nodes, covering hundreds of kilometers[0]. It's an open network, with a lot of small companies and individuals participating on it. The only requirement to join it is to comply the Wireless Commons License[1]. If you want more information about it just ask. [0] https://guifi.net/en/node/17711/view/map [1] https://guifi.net/en/WCL_EN -- Rubén Pollán | http://meskio.net/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Nos vamos a Croatan. -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] seeking open wireless projects
On 07/19/2013 05:44 PM, Dan Auerbach wrote: We're sure there are many more, and wanted to see if people here could help by pointing us towards launched projects to add to the list. It's hard to draw a bright line between what counts as a launched project vs, say, a technical solution. For example, we don't want to include a protocol like EAP-SIM or firmware that has optional open wireless as a launched project, but firmware that ships with default on guest networking might qualify. Any suggestions you have are great so don't hesitate to let us know about any cool thing related to open wireless, just please don't be offended if we decide not to categorize it as a launched project. Hi Dan, Have you checked out Commotion? While it's a software project, there are active networks in Philadelphia, Detroit, New York, and elsewhere. https://commotionwireless.net/ best, Griffin -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] seeking open wireless projects
Hi! I found one of existing documents on the topic: http://openwaves.ws/ Mitar On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Mitar mmi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I hope you checked this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wireless_community_networks_by_region :-) There were already few times people were analyzing existing wireless networks. I think you should get into the contact with those researchers. (At least I know that I had to answer interview questions few times already.) Currently, as far as I know, part of this current EU project is to also analyze existing networks. I would recommend that you get into the contact with them: http://confine-project.eu/ And of course with everybody involved in International Summit for Community Wireless Networks. http://wirelesssummit.org/ I am involved with wlan slovenija, http://wlan-si.net/. Mitar On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Dan Auerbach d...@eff.org wrote: Hi libtech, We at EFF are writing up a taxonomy of existing open wireless commercial or non-commercial projects that have launched and would love input from folks on this list. So far we are looking at: Fon - http://corp.fon.com/ Comcast - http://corporate.comcast.com/news-information/news-feed/comcast-unveils-plans-for-millions-of-xfinity-wifi-hotspots-through-its-home-based-neighborhood-hotspot-initiative-2 Karma - https://yourkarma.com/ Ruckus - http://www.ruckuswireless.com/ KeyWifi - is this project still active? We're sure there are many more, and wanted to see if people here could help by pointing us towards launched projects to add to the list. It's hard to draw a bright line between what counts as a launched project vs, say, a technical solution. For example, we don't want to include a protocol like EAP-SIM or firmware that has optional open wireless as a launched project, but firmware that ships with default on guest networking might qualify. Any suggestions you have are great so don't hesitate to let us know about any cool thing related to open wireless, just please don't be offended if we decide not to categorize it as a launched project. Our goal is NOT to promote these solutions, but rather just to give an idea of what's out there, what desirable properties each offering has, and what properties it lacks. For example, we think decentralized solutions that have no captive portals or authentication and are universally available are preferred. We do not want to get into a discussion of the security properties of open wireless, or any discussion about the merits of one solution vs another -- we are simply seeking information on what is out there. Thanks, -- Dan Auerbach Staff Technologist Electronic Frontier Foundation d...@eff.org 415 436 9333 x134 -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- http://mitar.tnode.com/ https://twitter.com/mitar_m -- http://mitar.tnode.com/ https://twitter.com/mitar_m -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] seeking open wireless projects
Hi! I hope you checked this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wireless_community_networks_by_region :-) There were already few times people were analyzing existing wireless networks. I think you should get into the contact with those researchers. (At least I know that I had to answer interview questions few times already.) Currently, as far as I know, part of this current EU project is to also analyze existing networks. I would recommend that you get into the contact with them: http://confine-project.eu/ And of course with everybody involved in International Summit for Community Wireless Networks. http://wirelesssummit.org/ I am involved with wlan slovenija, http://wlan-si.net/. Mitar On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Dan Auerbach d...@eff.org wrote: Hi libtech, We at EFF are writing up a taxonomy of existing open wireless commercial or non-commercial projects that have launched and would love input from folks on this list. So far we are looking at: Fon - http://corp.fon.com/ Comcast - http://corporate.comcast.com/news-information/news-feed/comcast-unveils-plans-for-millions-of-xfinity-wifi-hotspots-through-its-home-based-neighborhood-hotspot-initiative-2 Karma - https://yourkarma.com/ Ruckus - http://www.ruckuswireless.com/ KeyWifi - is this project still active? We're sure there are many more, and wanted to see if people here could help by pointing us towards launched projects to add to the list. It's hard to draw a bright line between what counts as a launched project vs, say, a technical solution. For example, we don't want to include a protocol like EAP-SIM or firmware that has optional open wireless as a launched project, but firmware that ships with default on guest networking might qualify. Any suggestions you have are great so don't hesitate to let us know about any cool thing related to open wireless, just please don't be offended if we decide not to categorize it as a launched project. Our goal is NOT to promote these solutions, but rather just to give an idea of what's out there, what desirable properties each offering has, and what properties it lacks. For example, we think decentralized solutions that have no captive portals or authentication and are universally available are preferred. We do not want to get into a discussion of the security properties of open wireless, or any discussion about the merits of one solution vs another -- we are simply seeking information on what is out there. Thanks, -- Dan Auerbach Staff Technologist Electronic Frontier Foundation d...@eff.org 415 436 9333 x134 -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- http://mitar.tnode.com/ https://twitter.com/mitar_m -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] seeking open wireless projects
In addition there are a number we ( Inveneo, a non-profit based in San Francisco ) have worked on here are just a few: Northern Uganda - http://boscouganda.com/ Dadaab north eastern Kenya - http://www.inveneo.org/projects/dadaabconnect/ Chuuk, Micronesia - http://www.inveneo.org/2013/05/connecting-schools-in-micronesia-using-long-distance-wifi/ Also many others come to mind like wireless Nepal ( http://www.nepalwireless.com.np/ ) and Airjaldi ( http://drupal.airjaldi.com/ ) Mark On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Mitar mmi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I hope you checked this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wireless_community_networks_by_region :-) There were already few times people were analyzing existing wireless networks. I think you should get into the contact with those researchers. (At least I know that I had to answer interview questions few times already.) Currently, as far as I know, part of this current EU project is to also analyze existing networks. I would recommend that you get into the contact with them: http://confine-project.eu/ And of course with everybody involved in International Summit for Community Wireless Networks. http://wirelesssummit.org/ I am involved with wlan slovenija, http://wlan-si.net/. Mitar On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Dan Auerbach d...@eff.org wrote: Hi libtech, We at EFF are writing up a taxonomy of existing open wireless commercial or non-commercial projects that have launched and would love input from folks on this list. So far we are looking at: Fon - http://corp.fon.com/ Comcast - http://corporate.comcast.com/news-information/news-feed/comcast-unveils-plans-for-millions-of-xfinity-wifi-hotspots-through-its-home-based-neighborhood-hotspot-initiative-2 Karma - https://yourkarma.com/ Ruckus - http://www.ruckuswireless.com/ KeyWifi - is this project still active? We're sure there are many more, and wanted to see if people here could help by pointing us towards launched projects to add to the list. It's hard to draw a bright line between what counts as a launched project vs, say, a technical solution. For example, we don't want to include a protocol like EAP-SIM or firmware that has optional open wireless as a launched project, but firmware that ships with default on guest networking might qualify. Any suggestions you have are great so don't hesitate to let us know about any cool thing related to open wireless, just please don't be offended if we decide not to categorize it as a launched project. Our goal is NOT to promote these solutions, but rather just to give an idea of what's out there, what desirable properties each offering has, and what properties it lacks. For example, we think decentralized solutions that have no captive portals or authentication and are universally available are preferred. We do not want to get into a discussion of the security properties of open wireless, or any discussion about the merits of one solution vs another -- we are simply seeking information on what is out there. Thanks, -- Dan Auerbach Staff Technologist Electronic Frontier Foundation d...@eff.org 415 436 9333 x134 -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- http://mitar.tnode.com/ https://twitter.com/mitar_m -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
