Re: [LibertarianEnterprise] Re: An alternative to government? It seems possible!

[Wraith]

At 02:06 PM 2/1/2008, you wrote:


--- In 
LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, 
"Gregory M. Gauthier"

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> One thing that's always bugged me about traditional Libertarianism, is
> the plain fact that no matter how "willing" we are, we're actually
> still submitting to force when being taxed for things like law
> enforcement and the military.
>

The entire Justice System, including Law Enforcement, can be wholly
funded by Perp Fees. A common misperception is that there are Perps
who cannot pay their fines. That really isn't true. Everyone has
SOMETHING of Value that can be taken from him when he Initiates Force.
If he is healthy enough to cause trouble, he is healthy enough to
have usable organs. Or he can serve as a sex slave or a lab rat or
something if he prefers to keep his organs or they are infected. Up
to him. No shortage of money.

I haven't worked out the Military thing yet, but I reckon the same
applies... any Military Action that is justified can be paid for by
taking as much of the Aggressors' land and organs and slaves as the
Victim Army feels is proper recompense.

I suggest it wouldn't take many such Fines for perps to decide to get
into another line of work.


In terms of national defense, you may find this of interest.

http://tinyurl.com/5jve8

 Tu Ne Cede Malis 

[LibertarianEnterprise] Re: An alternative to government? It seems possible!

[Zack Bass]

--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory M. Gauthier"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> One thing that's always bugged me about traditional Libertarianism, is
> the plain fact that no matter how "willing" we are, we're actually
> still submitting to force when being taxed for things like law
> enforcement and the military. 
>

The entire Justice System, including Law Enforcement, can be wholly
funded by Perp Fees.  A common misperception is that there are Perps
who cannot pay their fines.  That really isn't true.  Everyone has
SOMETHING of Value that can be taken from him when he Initiates Force.
 If he is healthy enough to cause trouble, he is healthy enough to
have usable organs.  Or he can serve as a sex slave or a lab rat or
something if he prefers to keep his organs or they are infected.  Up
to him.  No shortage of money.

I haven't worked out the Military thing yet, but I reckon the same
applies... any Military Action that is justified can be paid for by
taking as much of the Aggressors' land and organs and slaves as the
Victim Army feels is proper recompense.

I suggest it wouldn't take many such Fines for perps to decide to get
into another line of work.

[LibertarianEnterprise] Re: An alternative to government? It seems possible!

[Zack Bass]

--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory M. Gauthier"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> It is at this point that people generally throw up their arms and
> dismiss the idea of DROs by claiming that society would descend into
> civil war within a few days. 
> Everyone, of course, realizes that civil war is a rather bad
> situation, and so it seems likely that the DROs would consider
> alternatives to armed combat.
>

Why?  History has shown that humans as they constitute every region we
are aware of have never been so eager to avoid Civil War.  Of course,
you can posit that everyone is an "Anarchist Of Good Will" who will
take the non-violent course ("The No-Rogue State")... but in that case
it doesn't matter what kind of Government or non-Governmental dispute
resolution is in effect, everyone will behave sweetly by nature.

[LibertarianEnterprise] Re: An alternative to government? It seems possible!

[Zack Bass]

--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory M. Gauthier"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> if Stan is an intelligent and even vaguely entrepreneurial
> man, he will see the corruption of the DRO as a prime opportunity to
> start his own, competing DRO, and will write into its base contract
> clauses to ensure that what happened to him will never happen to
> anyone who signs on with his new DRO.
>

Kewl.  And if you can do that, you might as well have a Minarchy with
a Constitution with a NO VICTIMLESS CRIME LAWS Clause.
Now that the objection about Written Clauses being useless has been
resolved.