Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Tester Request] Android Impress Remote + Windows machine?
Hi Pedro, Android phone plus Win10x64 Regards. Miguel ángel. El 14/12/15 a las 12:08, Robinson Tryon escribió: Hi all, We've made some important changes to the Android Impress Remote (AIR) recently, and want to make sure that the updated remote is working smoothly when connecting to a Windows machine. Do you have an Android phone/tablet and are running Windows? Ping me back! Thanks, -R ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: Firebird
El 28/05/13 20:48, Andrzej J. R. Hunt escribió: Hi Miguel, Javier, Andres I've just seen that you are working on a Firebird DB connector for LibreOffice -- I've just been selected to work on this as part of the Google Summer of Code -- it would be cool if I could also work with you on implementing this! (I'm currently still studying for exams but will be working full time on this from roughly the 10th June.) The major issue I can see at the moment is selecting which version of Firebird to use, which I see is also being discussed on the Firebird-devel list [1]. All the details are in that thread -- but basically it looks like FB3 won't be out until next year and there isn't much documentation of the new API, on the other hand it looks like FB3 will be easier/cleaner to use. Personally I'd favour implementing 3.0 for those reasons, but that would mean that it couldn't be shipped as the default DB in LibreOffice until FB3 is stable, which I can see as being a convincing argument for using 2.5 instead. As far as I can tell the API should be stable from the first alpha release of FB3 [2], i.e. API changes shouldn't be an issue if using 3.0. I'd be interested to know what your views are on this / which version you've been using so far? I guess the LO developers in general might also have some input on which is preferable? Also have any of you looked at integrating Firebird into the LO build system yet, as this was one of the first things I was planning on doing (although that is dependent on the choice of FB 2.5 vs 3). I think Andres mentioned he was concentrating on developing on Linux at first -- I could look into the Windows specifics for Firebird to ensure things are as cross-platform as possible from the start (although I should probably mention I don't have too much Windows experience yet, and my system isn't the fastest for building stuff there). I've create a wiki page where I'm putting down some notes on whats happening here -- I've also extracted the technical discussion and the estimated timeplan from my GSOC application in case that's useful to anyone else: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Base/FirebirdSQL . Feel free to add to/edit that if you wish. All the Best, Andrzeje [1]: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.firebird.devel/2969 [2]: http://www.firebirdsql.org/en/roadmap/ Thanks Andrzej for start the thread, avoiding me to do it as Michael have been suggested in bugzilla, and of course by create the Wiki page. In relation with the version, and thinking that time in an application like Firebird is not the same than in one as LibreOffice, wait for the first stable FB3, does it seem more time than we want? Maybe some communication and feedback with Firebird devs can achieve a better acknowledgement to take a decision, specially about can be technical difficulties with embedded 2.5. Firebird 2.5 server works nice for me in Windows 7 with ODBC and JDBC-jaybird to retrieve data. I can only help with test. But I'm glad to see this integration going forward. Thanks in advance to all. Miguel Ángel. * Inglés - detectado * Inglés * Español * Gallego * Italiano * Inglés * Español * Gallego * Italiano javascript:void(0); # ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
[Libreoffice-qa] Looking for a new approach in QA workflow.
Hi all, Reading comments out there, like Ask, Bugzilla and other sites, seems some people have the impression that LibreOffice is released with bugs, what leaves secondly the great improvements, what do not make me feel too well. Well IMHO, we need to look for a new approach to change this appreciation, and if was possible at the same time improve the project. IMHO we have not enough verification for Patch and Enhancements (PE) previously to their incorporation in the RC and final releases. E.g. we have not a place where to find how a PE must work and when is in a build?. Invest the time before release, to reduce multiplied the spent time after release, I think could be the most effective way to get results. How many hours spent on repair can save every hour invest in a previous QA to avoid a bug?, this is a true saving for users and their companies, and up to footprint on the environment. We are green :). My proposal: 1) Have a place where the patch and enhancements (PE) are published at the same time of the build where they are pushed, is made available, with the detailed information needed to make possible their verification, with the link to the build. Some indication about priority, specially the urgent patches also would be of interest. 2) The quality team, maybe developers, and who can help, then can make a systematic and orderly checking thereof. 3) After test, report the positive result, and the negative with the number of the report in bugzilla with cc to the author for found bugs. 4) Restrict to only patch and enhancements with positives test, without any negative, can reach RCs or final releases. 5) Special cases can be discussed ESC call. IMO, the point, is review as soon as possible, making easier solve the issues while the PE are fresh in mind, reducing the options for new cross issues, decreasing at the same time, I think significantly, the need for future bibisect. The public explanation, I am sure will make developers think in a wider perspective, getting a good feedback quickly and making more visible the quality of their work. In this way, one can know what are the new PE for test in the build, and know much better what kind of test to do. Now, it is hard to know what is new in every build and what is there for review. I think it would be an invaluable reference place for everybody. To know about what can be expected from the PE and how it must work. I am thinking specially in documentation people and who could help devs on the help update. A place where to see quickly what is going on. Where to find when the PE have been pushed. I know carry on the place is not easy, but maybe all things are there in different places, in any case, I think the benefits could be beyond on what we can think now. I am sorry for mistakes and if find the proposal has no interest or maybe a bit revolutionary, but I hope at least help to point in the right direction. Regards. Miguel Ángel. * Inglés - detectado * Inglés * Español * Gallego * Italiano * Inglés * Español * Gallego * Italiano javascript:void(0); # ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Ask for help, on discrepancy about a enhancement request in bugzilla.
Hi, I had reported the following bug about conditional formatting: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54774 The developer wrote that he did not consider it a bug and he marked it as RESOLVED / NOTABUG. I disagree, but okay, if is by design, I can not considered it as bug. But as I can not understand the design, I reported an enhancement request: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54940 But the developer insist and he marked it as RESOLVED WONTFIX. I reopen the request because is an enhancement request, and if the developer does not want to take it into consideration, nothing to said, but perhaps others can understand my point of view and may consider it in the future. What is near to impossible with a RESOLVED status. Again the developer have marked it as RESOLVED WONTFIX. I do not agree that someone can mark a enhancement request as RESOLVED WONTFIX, without the agreement of who reported it. I ask for the reopening of the enhancement request #54940. If I am in an error, please excuse me. Regards. Miguel Ángel. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] New Bugzilla Version Picker items – 2
El 15/06/12 13:27, Petr Mladek escribió: Hi Florian, On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 10:07 +0200, Florian Reisinger wrote: Hi! I am not sure anyone has seen my suggestion: Alpha 1: 3.6.0a1 Beta 1: 3.6.0b1 RC 1: 3.6.0r0 RC 2: 3.6.0r1 Ah, this does not work because we could not mention r (same as rc) in the about dialog. We do not want to rebuild/upload new build just to remove this string for the final release. Best Regards, Petr ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ But I think many users are confused with the use of RC2 as final version. Miguel Ángel. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] [EDITING] LibreO version 3.6.0alpha1 (Build ID: 66f01b5) Crash when copying a range with contional format.
LibO-Dev_3.6.0alpha1_Win_x86_install_multi version 3.6.0alpha1 (Build ID: 66f01b5) Wintx64 Ultimate Clean profile. Hi, Can someone verify this regression before report the bug?. Open a new spreadsheet. 1. Enter a conditional formatting in range B2, value: 1, select style: Result. 2. Enter any value in B2 2. Ctrl-c 3. Select any cell, B2 included. 4. Ctrl-v 5. Crash. Not reproducible in LibreO 3.5.4rc2 Maybe in relation with the work in progress over several bugs about conditional formatting. Miguel ángel. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [EDITING] LibreO version 3.6.0alpha1 (Build ID: 66f01b5) Insert sheet from file doesn't work for CSV files.
Can someone also verify, before report bug? Menu/Insert/Insert sheet from file doesn't work for CSV files, do nothing, but works for ods or hmtl. Miguel Ángel. LibO-Dev_3.6.0alpha1_Win_x86_install_multi version 3.6.0alpha1 (Build ID: 66f01b5) Wintx64 Ultimate Clean profile. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] How to improve our Bug tracking system
El 22/05/12 19:36, Rainer Bielefeld escribió: Hi all, I now want to start to collect ideas how we can make a big step improving our (Bugzilla) Bug tracking system. The goal is that after we ___ Hi all, A few comments about. a) From user POV, the first time in bugzilla is not easy because you need select LibreOffice to introduce the bug, and LibreOffice is not in the beginning of a long applications list. Difficult to know where you are, specially for people without level of English. Like a wall for many people I think. · Best an own bugzilla. b) Break the perception that sometimes have reporters, who think that nobody is care about his reported bug. I guess when devs gain same confidence in some users it's easier for those gain the devs attention. Maybe some community volunteers can make a first approximation to the bugs, i.e. get more information from the users, verify the bug, do a first classification, regression, bug, improvement, blocker, critical, etc. · If it was possible, have in bugzilla community volunteers, a figure like volunteers in the forums, I think could be a very good one of the first step for people begun into community support. And maybe would help so much in QA. c) We always think our bugs are the more important in the world, and tend to fix the importance too high in consequence. This introduce too noise in the bugzilla. · Don't let the reporters set the importance at least without a second confirmation, for example from a volunteer. d) The header bug with the comment box is so hight. You can`t see in the first view the first post. And as the comment box is on top, while writing a comment you can't see the last comments. · Design the header with a more compressed presentation, moving the comment box to the bottom. Could be a volunteers group in the TDF?. IMHO a good step to make easy for the people introducing in the project, feel as part, participating in some decisions, create bridges for people who don't know the English. And probably get a wider base of the community. PFME. Miguel Ángel. * Inglés - detectado * Inglés * Español * Gallego * Italiano * Inglés * Español * Gallego * Italiano javascript:void(0); ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Help dealing with this
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 23:24 -0400, Kohei Yoshida wrote: I think we could use some help dealing with an ugly personal attack disguised as a bug report. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49115 It's a bug reporter like this that makes me lose hope in a FOSS project such as this one. Please better feel the support from others who appreciate the well done job by the devs. Always see the positives, and forgive the negatives. Miguel Ángel. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.3 RC1 test builds available
El 20/04/12 15:35, Pedro escribió: Fridrich Strba-3 wrote (following words copyrighted by Thorsten) In the spirit of LibreOffice shouldn't these words be licensed under CC by SA? :) Just updated successfully to LibreOffice 3.5.3.1 under Windows XP Pro x86 Sp3 ;) A quick note of recognition to the Devs for fixing the mismatched version number between the About box and the properties of the exe files under Windows. It was a small step for development but a (well, not a huge leap :) ) great improvement for update checking (and for security minded Windows users) Cheers, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-ANN-LibreOffice-3-5-3-RC1-test-builds-available-tp3925751p3926034.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ Seems the file: http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/win/x86/LibO_3.5.3rc1_Win_x86_helppack_en-US.msi doesn't download, also en-GB and other, they open as text file, Some download well, for example: Spanish, Italian. Miguel Ángel. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.3 RC1 test builds available
El 20/04/12 17:32, Thorsten Behrens escribió: MiguelAngel wrote: Seems the file: http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/win/x86/LibO_3.5.3rc1_Win_x86_helppack_en-US.msi doesn't download, also en-GB and other, they open as text file, Can you try again, added explicit mimetype to httpd conf for msi/msp/msm ? Cheers, -- Thorsten. Now download properly. Thanks Thorsten. Miguel Ángel. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] do not update MAB without a comment - was: Re: [Bug 37361] LibreOffice 3.5 most annoying bugs
El 18/04/12 20:19, Pedro escribió: Michael Stahl-2 wrote imho to prevent this abuse the priorities should be settable only by experienced QA or developers, not by everybody. Having done such mistakes in the past (still doing?) I couldn't agree more. Michael Stahl-2 wrote but what really gets my attention these days is a regression keyword. Excellent :) Regressions are indeed the worst form of getting people unhappy. Getting stuck on something that used to work and doesn't any more is more frustrating that something that never worked :) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-do-not-update-MAB-without-a-comment-was-Re-Bug-37361-LibreOffice-3-5-most-annoying-bus-tp3919364p3920906.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ +1 I have remarked sometimes about this. Regression are the worst, specially those what change the results without notice, more critic in calc. And those what leads a crash. I believe the regressions must be have the high priority, and IMHO solve the regressions make easy the development, because avoid crossing bugs with new improvements. Miguel Ángel. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/