Re: LO 24.2 C++20 baseline

[Terrence Enger]

On Tue, 2023-09-26 at 10:44 +0200, Miklos Vajna wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 01:48:01PM +0300, Stephan Bergmann 
>  wrote:
> > Was that maybe an intermittent Clang bug?  It apparently doesn't hit the
> > Jenkins Clang builds, and I don't see it with trunk Clang 18 either, but
> > have dim memories that there was some issue with too-eager evaluation
> > causing something like this at some point.  Do you have a way to check with
> > another Clang version, to substantiate that assumption?
> 
> Yes, I can confirm downgrading to clang-12 would work around the
> problem.
> 

The phrase "too-eager evaluation" caught my eye here.  What I see may
be something else entirely, but here goes.  I hesitate to bring it up,
because I am getting along just fine without building skia, but maybe
this will save someone a few minutes of investigation.

I am running debian-sid with clang-14 and libstdc++-13-dev.  With
-std=c++20, clang++ complains about /usr/include/c++/13/chrono:

/usr/include/c++/13/chrono:2320:48: error: call to consteval function
'std::chrono::hh_mm_ss::_S_fractional_width' is not a constant expression
static constexpr unsigned fractional_width = {_S_fractional_width()};
  ^
/usr/include/c++/13/chrono:2320:48: note: undefined function 
'_S_fractional_width' cannot be
used in a constant expression
/usr/include/c++/13/chrono:2275:2: note: declared here
_S_fractional_width()

I see the problem only with C++20 and that version of the compiler and
libstdc++.  I see no error message with

- gcc version 13.2.0-7

- libstdc++ version 12: both _S_fractional_width and
  fractional_width are constexpr

- default version of C++

I shall copy in an excerpt from typescript of the failing build of LO
at the end of this message.

Terry.

excerpt from typescript of build

[CXX]
workdir/UnpackedTarball/skia/src/core/SkBitmapDevice.cpp
In file included from
/home/terry/lo_hacking/git/libo6/workdir/UnpackedTarball/skia/src/core/SkBitmapDevice.cpp:8:
In file included from
/home/terry/lo_hacking/git/libo6/workdir/UnpackedTarball/skia/src/core/SkBitmapDevice.h:19:
In file included from
/home/terry/lo_hacking/git/libo6/workdir/UnpackedTarball/skia/src/core/SkImageFilterTypes.h:20:
In file included from
/home/terry/lo_hacking/git/libo6/workdir/UnpackedTarball/skia/src/core/SkSpecialImage.h:19:
In file included from
/home/terry/lo_hacking/git/libo6/workdir/UnpackedTarball/skia/src/gpu/ganesh/GrSurfaceProxyView.h:1
8:
In file included from
/home/terry/lo_hacking/git/libo6/workdir/UnpackedTarball/skia/src/gpu/ganesh/GrSurfaceProxy.h:22:
In file included from
/home/terry/lo_hacking/git/libo6/workdir/UnpackedTarball/skia/src/gpu/ganesh/GrGpuResource.h:14:
In file included from
/home/terry/lo_hacking/git/libo6/workdir/UnpackedTarball/skia/src/gpu/GpuTypesPriv.h:13:
/usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/13/../../../../include/c++/13/chrono:2320:48:
 error: call to
consteval function 'std::chrono::hh_mm_ss::_S_fractional_width' is not a 
constant expression
static constexpr unsigned fractional_width = {_S_fractional_width()};
  ^
/usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/13/../../../../include/c++/13/chrono:2320:48:
 note: undefined
function '_S_fractional_width' cannot be used in a constant expression
/usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/13/../../../../include/c++/13/chrono:2275:2:
 note: declared
here
_S_fractional_width()
^

LO Viewer for Android: failures in make install

[Terrence Enger]

Greetings,

I am trying to follow the instructions at
"Development/BuildingForAndroid"
<https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/BuildingForAndroid>;.
The step `make install` failed with messages (lines rewrapped).

* Where:

Build file
'/home/terry/lo_hacking/git/android/android/source/build.gradle'
line: 3

* What went wrong:
A problem occurred evaluating root project 'source'.
Could not read script
'/home/terry/lo_hacking/git/android/android/source/liboSettings.gradle'
as it does not exist.

and

Task failed with an exception.
---
* What went wrong:
A problem occurred configuring root project 'source'.
compileSdkVersion is not specified. Please add it to build.gradle

Christian Lohmaier has written
<https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/dev/2016/msg03930.html>
that a toplevel make will create the file.  I had just done a toplevel
make, but after another one, 'make install` failed similarly.

In build.gradle, line 3 is

apply from: 'liboSettings.gradle'

I am building on debian-sid, and my autogen.input, minus comments, is

--enable-option-checking=fatal
--with-vendor=Terrence Enger
--with-external-tar=/home/terry/lo_hacking/git/src
--build=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
--host=i686-linux-android
--with-android-sdk=/home/terry/Android/Sdk
--with-android-ndk=/home/terry/Android/Sdk/ndk/25.2.9519653
--with-android-api-level=21
--enable-dbgutil
--with-theme=colibre
--disable-zxing

and I have set envvar ANDROID_HOME=/home/terry/Android/Sdk

Any advice or guidance is welcome.

Thank you, all, for your attention.
Terry.

Re: segfault in unopkg.bin

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On Mon, 2022-08-15 at 08:05 +0200, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
> On 8/14/22 20:26, Terrence Enger wrote:
>
> I managed to provoke unopkg.bin to segfault while I was doing `make`
> 
> Either file a bug report
(and please put me on cc) or just give the 

Thank you, Stephan.

I have created tdf#150427
<https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=150427>;.

I have some time available, but fear that I would consume more
guidance than any value I will contribute back.  Instruction welcome.

( Just by the way ... The typescript I attached to the report is
really ugly with all the funny stuff inserted by bash's colorization,
my backspacing, tab completion, command recall, and whatever.
`less --raw-control-chars` makes the file almost readable, but I would
welcome any suggestion to take that burden of the reader.  )

segfault in unopkg.bin

[Terrence Enger]

Hi,

I managed to provoke unopkg.bin to segfault while I was doing `make`
in instdir/sdk/examples/cpp/complextoolbarcontrols/.  Is this a
candidate for a bug report?  Or, is it a case of: I deserve whatever I
do to myself?

FWIW, my mistake was to define envvar URE_BOOTSTRAP with an embedded
equal sign where it should have had a colon.

Thank you for your attention and guidance.
Terry.

[Libreoffice-qa] spam in comments on tdf#86725

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Hello,

In the last two days, avisek kumar  has been 
spamming bug 86725.  Is possible to unregister him, please?

Thanks,
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Re: Try to upgrade to Firebird 3.0.7

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On Sun, 2020-11-01 at 06:29 -0700, julien2412 wrote:
> 
> Remark: last time, the biggest pb was to
make it build on every envs (so
> deal with env specific patches).

Funny thing: just on Friday, I was thinking about incorporting a newer
Firebird, and I looked at some of the work to upgrade to 3.0.0.  I
decided that, without access to multiple development systems, I had no
chance of doing anything useful.

Terry.

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unit tests taking focus on the desktop

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All,

I notice that unit tests (UIT, it seems) are launching 
LibreOffice to take focus on the desktop.  I am running 
debian-buster and xfce desktop.

Is there a way to either
(*) send that user interface away somewhere, so that I can
do other things in the desktop?
(*) make the tests continue after desktop locks, so  that
I can go away to do other things?

Thanks for your attention,
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Re: GSoC "Extending the UITest framework" Week (11) Report

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On Tue, 2020-08-18 at 23:09 +0200, ahmed El-Shreif wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> Here is my Week (11) report:
> https://ahmedelshreifgsoc20.blogspot.com/2020/08/week-11-report.html
> 
> waiting for all your feedback.

I notice that your next week tasks include starting on documentation of 
the project.

I encourage you to provide guidance about the prerequisites.  My last attempt
to use your work ended with the lack, IIRC, of xtext needed by the conversion
to Python; I wonder what the next stopper will be.

Thanks,
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2020-08-06

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On Thu, 2020-08-06 at 16:57 +0200, Miklos Vajna wrote:
> 
>  * corrupted user profile: how to handle that? (Heiko)
>  + interesting if we have steps wrt how to corrupt it (Xisco)
>  + otherwise: clean the profile via safe mode

Yeah, I just had one of these (tdf#135398, of little interest).  And
the closest I could come for the wanted steps was "I routinely abuse
LibreOffice in every way I can think of, and then I do it all over
again."  This is somewhat short on detail. 

I have hacked together a script to commit the user profile to a git
repository after execution of soffice.  My hope is that I shall be
able to usefully localize the origin of the corruption.  If I have
success, I will come back for advice on how to generalize and share my
work.

I guess success here means that
(a) I get versioning working;
(b) I stumble across another problem dependent on a corrupted profile,
and I can bisect back to an execution of LO;
(c) the changes made by that execution are both small enough to bear
examination and they inform somebody (probably not me) of what went
wrong.
It would be good--but is probably too much to hope for-- that I should
remember what I was doing in that execution of LO.

Should I persist in this effort?  Thoughts welcome.

Meanwhile, for those who might be interested, here is the "usage"
message of the script:

terry@buster:~/lo_hacking/git/libo6$ ~/lo_hacking/scripts/soff --help
Usage: soff [ OPTIONS ] [ -- [ ARGUMENTS_TO_LO ] ]

OPTIONS
  --help | -h print this message and exit
  --intent MSGone-line declaration, sticks until changed
  --soffice=run|debugrun|skip
  run  (default) run soffice directly
  debugrun run gdb around soffice
  skip do not run soffice at all
  --skip-git  do not commit user profile after soffice
ARGUMENTS_TO_LO are passed unchanged to LiberOffice except
that ARGUMENTS_TO_LO are ignored when --soffice=debugrun

and after execution of:

~/lo_hacking/scripts/soff \
--intent "just playing around with versioning the user profile" \
-- -writer

here is the commit message:

terry@buster:~/lo_hacking/git/libo6$ GIT_DIR=user_profile_git/.git/ \
 git log -1
commit de5c2cee84ee6efc85d938600b4401d0e1d27da9 (HEAD -> master)
Author: Terrence Enger 
Date:   Thu Aug 13 12:12:09 2020 -0400

s-h 28022cee396715bc4b474ed1571074dc721bbe13

just playing around with versioning the user profile
exit code from soffice = 0; 2020-08-13T12:12:09-04:00

Thanks,
Terry.

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[Libreoffice-qa] 7.0 bibisect repo

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Hello, All,

I notice on "QA/Bibisect/Linux" 

in the table under the heading "Versions", version number 
6.5 has been changed to 7.0 but "Download links" still points
to 6.5 .

Is this really what is intended?

Thanks,
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Re: LO Viewer for Android: daily builds missing

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On Thu, 2020-04-23 at 13:48 +0200, Michael Weghorn wrote:
that daily builds are missing because of a probable hardware problem
on the build machine.

Thank you, Michael.  I shall check the download site occasionally.
Terry.


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LO Viewer for Android: daily builds missing

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Greetings,

I notice that daily builds are no longer available at 
.
Is this intentional?

Thanks,
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Re: status of --enable-split-debug ?

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On Sun, 2020-03-08 at 09:19 -0400, Terrence Enger wrote:
> 
> 
> Yeah, I guess so.  This is one of the times that I hate computers.

And now, the problem is gone.  I hate problems that just go away almost
as much as I hate problems that just happen.

Terry
--
Fooey on user-friendliness.  What I was to hear from my computer is:
Yes sir, right awy, SIR!


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Re: status of --enable-split-debug ?

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On Sun, 2020-03-08 at 13:29 +0100, Luboš Luňák wrote:
> On Sunday 08 of March 2020, Terrence Enger wrote:
> > Hello, All,
> > 
> > I think that sometime between 2020-02-15 and 2020-02-20 my local
> > build with parameter --enable-split-debug stopped showing debug
> > symbols in gdb.  I presume that this was not an intentional change.
> 
>  It works fine for me. Given that it is the default for debug builds and it's 
> been more than 2 weeks for other people to notice, maybe rather something 
> else has changed for you?
> 

Yeah, I guess so.  This is one of the times that I hate computers.

Thank you confirming my suspicion.
Terry.


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status of --enable-split-debug ?

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Hello, All,

I think that sometime between 2020-02-15 and 2020-02-20 my local 
build with parameter --enable-split-debug stopped showing debug 
symbols in gdb.  I presume that this was not an intentional change.

I get debugging symbols back with --disble-split-debug, but I would 
be happy to get back the additional disk space that this uses.

Advice welcome.

Thank you, all, for your attention.
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Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2020-03-05: Android Viewer

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On 05/03/2020 16.38, Miklos Vajna wrote:
> >+ Android viewer: core.git java viewer is currently
broken on master
> >  + both arch64 and x86 (crash on doc load, will investigate)
> >  + have
2 changes in gerrit attempting to fix these problems
> > (Michael W)
> 
> Merged now (and a 3rd patch
for aarch64 in addition):

Sadly, on a Samsung J3 running adroid 8.0.0, running the daily build
master~2020-03-05_23.57.27_LibreOfficeViewer-strippedUIEditing-debug.apk,
which include the 3 commits you cited, I still see crashes (spinning
wait-icon for a long time; go-back triggers message "LibreOffice
Viewer keeps stopping.  (X) Close App").

This happens for the three files offered from the About menu, a .odt
and a .ods that I have around, and new "untitled.odt".

BTW, I wonder if there is a bug report which would be a better place
for this discussion.  Some near-candidates are
123290  android- cannot open files with writer (Android 9) 
127540  menu About > Show License crashes 
129348  Can't open files (new and existing) using the android app 
but each of them is already RESOLVED.  I suspect that there are more
possibilities.

Thanks,
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Re: About 7.0 and trying to fix some stuck issues

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On Sat, 2020-01-25 at 02:02 -0700, julien2412 wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I noticed next release will be 7.0
instead of 6.5 (see
...
> Just for sake of correctness, could it be the occasion to fix at last some
..
.

I notice that connectivity/source/drivers/odbc/ORealDriver.cxx defines
class ORealObdcDriver where I would expect class ORealOdbcDriver.  Is
this a candidate for renaming?

opengrok finds 6 lines in 2 files referencing ORealObdcDriver and 0
references to ORealOdbcDriver.

I ask for your thoughts.

Thanks,
Terry.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Solved: Translation markers in wiki

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On Sat, 2020-01-04 at 21:03 +0200, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
> Terrence Enger kirjoitti 4.1.2020 klo 20.55:
wrote about his confusion with the mechanism supporting wiki page
translations.

> > 
> > Is this because of something I did?  What should I do?
> 
> This is some briefly transient thing. If you view the special page now, 
> you will see there are no broken pages. It probably has to do with the 
> fact that marking a page for translation creates a job in the wiki job 
> queue and we have to wait for the queue to clear to actually see the 
> final result.

Thank you, Ilmari.
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Translation markers in wiki

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On Sat, 2020-01-04 at 16:59 +0200, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
> Terrence Enger kirjoitti 2.1.2020 klo
23.53:

asking about translation markers in wiki pages.

> We are now using the standard translation system that is also used in 
> Wikipedia. Our own summarised instructions for using it are here: 
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF_Wiki/Multilingual#Content_with_global_focus
> 
> The markers are added automatically. They should not be copied manually.
> 
> I quote from the article:
> "When you add or change content in the source page, this will appear at 
> the top of the page: This page has changes since it was last marked for 
> translation. Click the link "marked for translation" to bring the 
> translation system up to date following the same process as in the 
> initial marking for translation."

The page I changed is QA/Bibisect.

After I mark the page for translation, the source for the page has
newly added "" above the paragraph I added.

However, the system displays page "Page translation"
<https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Special:PageTranslation>;.  At the
bottom of the page, it tells me:

Broken pages

An old version of this page is marked for translation, but the
latest version cannot be marked for translation.

  1. QA/Bibisect (remove from translation)

Is this because of something I did?  What should I do?

Thank you,
Terry.

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[Libreoffice-qa] Translation markers in wiki

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Greetings,

I notice that wiki pages now have lots of strings like "" 
appearing approximately one per paragraph with sequentially increasing 
numbers.  I assume that these are flags to help somebody or something 
keep track of translations.  Right?  What should I do when I add a 
paragraph?

(My search foo must be weak these days.  I *did* try to find the answer.)

Thanks,
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Re: what jdk for build?

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On Fri, 2019-12-27 at 10:35 -0500, Terrence Enger wrote:
> Thank you.  I shall look for the warning
to be gone when I next build
> for Android.

And the warning is indeed gone.

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Re: what jdk for build?

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On Tue, 2019-12-17 at 08:16 +0100, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
> On 16/12/2019 19:24, Terrence Enger wrote:
> > By completely omitting --with-jdk-home from autogen.input, I get a
> > successful build.  configure complains that JAVA_HOME is not set, but
> > the build continues.
> 
> You mean some
> 
> > * WARNING : JAVA_HOME was not explicitly informed with --with-jdk-home. the 
> > configure script
> > * WARNING : attempted to find JAVA_HOME automatically, but apparently it 
> > failed
> > * WARNING : in case JAVA_HOME is incorrectly set, some projects will not be 
> > built correctly
> 
> when the determined JAVA_HOME is Java 9 or newer?

Yes, that is what provoked me to start looking at this.

> <https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/85257/> "Remove dated check for jre 
> sub-dir in JDK" should fix that.

Thank you.  I shall look for the warning to be gone when I next build
for Android.

Meanwhile, I have removed --with-jdk-home, and the build goes to
completion.


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Re: what jdk for build?

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On Fri, 2019-12-13 at 21:22 +0100, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
> You appear to wonder whether you should be able to point --with-jdk-home 
> to a 32-bit Java installation for a 64-bit LO build (on Linux).  No.  At 
> least some tests run during the LO build would want to load libjvm.so 
> from the specified --with-jdk-home (propagated via JAVA_HOME environment 
> variable and UNO_JAVA_JFW_ENV_JREHOME bootstrap variable) into a 64-bit 
> process, and fail.

By completely omitting --with-jdk-home from autogen.input, I get a
successful build.  configure complains that JAVA_HOME is not set, but
the build continues.

Thank you, Stephan.

> 
> I guess configure.ac doesn't check that a Java installation specified 
> via --with-jdk-home matches the bitness of the LO build.  If that's the 
> case, feel free to improve that if you see a need for it.

Oh my!

 
  When I first came from OpenOffice to LibreOffice, lo those
  many years ago, I planned to carefully collect all the configuration
  and build problems I encountered, thinking that the compilation
  would be a useful contribution to the project.  I found no problems,
  and that is one of the big improvements in LibreOffice: the build
  system "just works".  A result, though, is that I have needed to
  learn essentially nothing about the build system.


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what jdk for build?

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Hi,

I have accumulated a confusing number of jdk's, to the extent that I
am reduced to trying things at random.  I think that it would be good
to straighten these out before I ask about my failure building
LibreOffice Viewer.

My build for Linux has been working with
--with-jdk-home=/usr/lib/jvm/default-java
which points to 
java-1.11.0-openjdk-amd64
which I believe simply comes with debian buster.

An early attempt to build Viewer for Android required a 32-bit jdk, so
I installed debian package
openjdk-11-jdk:i386

Places on my system with bin/java which configure has accepted without
explicit error message as values for --with-jdk-home are
/usr/lib/jvm/java-11-openjdk-amd64
/usr/lib/jvm/java-11-openjdk-i386
/usr/local/android-studio/jre

Advice welcome.

I have not seen--or I have forgotten--direction about this on the
development wiki.  Is there a place where it should be?

Thank you for your attention,
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[Libreoffice-qa] behavior of pop-up-menu Delete Rows

[Terrence Enger]

Hi,

I wonder if Writer is behaving correctly.

(1) I dragged the cursor down the left margin to select multiple rows
of a table.
(2) With the cursor in left margin, I clicked right mouse button.
Writer removed the selection highlight from table rows.
(3) From the pop-up menu, I seleted Delete > Rows.  Writer deleted the
one row to the right of the cursor.

The first time I did this, I expected Writer to delete all the rows I
had selected in step (1), and I was surprised.  Now that I notice the
removal of selection highlight in step (2), and I am much less
surprised.  Perhaps Writer is working correctly.

Advice welcome.

Thanks,
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Re: Planned Gerrit upgrade on Wed, Dec 25 from 00:00 to 04:00 UTC

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Hi, Guilhem,

I have done the necessary for gerrit and wiki.  The account
configuration page likst "Known services" including Bugzilla and
AxkLibo.  Must I or should I do something about my accounts with the
latter two services?  If so, how do I go about it?

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] bibisect repos -linux-64-6.{3.4} not updating

[Terrence Enger]

On Thu, 2019-12-05 at 10:56 +0100, Xisco Fauli wrote:
> Hi Terrence,
> 
> El 4/12/19 a les 22:47, Terrence Enger ha escrit: about 64-6.{3,4} repos

> No, they are still maintained, but not being updated as often as they
> used to be since 'bibisect-linux-64-6.5' was created, which is updated
> once a week more or less.
> 
> Nevertheless, the three of them are updated now. Next time, you can just
> ping me directly and I'll do it.

Thank you.

Actually, this was just item in my list of repeating jobs.

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[Libreoffice-qa] bibisect repos -linux-64-6.{3.4} not updating

[Terrence Enger]

All,

I notice that my attempts to `git pull` in repositories 
bibisect-linux-64-6.{3,4} have not found updates since 
2019-11-10 and 2019-11-25 respectively.  cgit.desktop.org 
shows somewhat more that a hundred later commits to each branch.

Am I doing something wrong?  Are these repositories deliberately 
not being maintained?

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Re: Calc and auto-corrupt (again)

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On Mon, 2019-09-16 at 14:58 +0100, Wols Lists wrote:
> I guess this is something to do with the input
engine, but I had some
> fun with formulae yesterday,

Is there a reason why you are reporting this here instead of in
bugzilla ?  Do you need help
filing a bug report?

> On a different note in the same place, the formula tooltip was a pain in
> the neck - it placed itself half over the input box which is all very
> well if you're entering a new formula, but if you're trying to correct
> an existing formula, it's obscuring what you're trying to correct!

Is this something other than one of the nuisances implicit in using a
GUI?  Does the tooltip persist after you move the mouse cursor away?

This may be grounds for another bug report.

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Re: About putting back Firebird experimental

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On Wed, 2019-09-04 at 16:59 +0200, Alexander Thurgood wrote:
> 
> I feel we would do well to remember
that this is people's live and
> valuable data we are potentially messing with here, and not all of
these
> users are DBAs, in fact rather the contrary. It matters not a jot that
> db engine XYZ can
outperform db engine ABC under circumstance PQR if the
> data that the user originally had gets
screwed up, or if the yearbook,
> contacts with photos, or multilingual accounts DB they were running
no
> longer functions correctly, or at all, they won't forgive us for it.

Indeed, I shudder to think what a customer of mine would have done if
I had given them a database conversion with the problems seen in the
conversion we are offering.

(To be fair, my commercial work was easier: I was always converting
one particular database.  And knowledge of the business process and
the customer's goal usually combined to make it pretty obvious how to
handle an infelicity which in the general case would be a problem
without a good solution.)

Still, as always, we can only do what we can do.  The most important
thing we can do is to not surprise the user.  I think we should try
very hard to avoid this grave sin.

To that end, I propose a pre-conversion report showing the problems
which will arise in the conversion of a particular database.  In the
case of a declared-too-long VARCHAR column, the report would show the
afflicted table and column name.  For each such column it would also
show the key values of--let us say--up to three rows where the value
actually stored is too long for Firebird.  And so forth.

I make this proposal diffidently, as it involves more work than I can
do.  I invite your thoughts.

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Re: Canadian developers?

[Terrence Enger]

On Wed, 2019-07-31 at 11:04 -0400, Marc Paré wrote:
> Are there any Canadian developers actively working on LibreOffice code?

I am not really a LO developer, but I would like to follow whatever you
are doing.  Maybe there will be something where I can make a contribution.

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Re: WIP migration towards Firebird 3.0.4, cannot find -ltommath

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On Thu, 2019-01-31 at 13:09 -0700, julien2412 wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm giving a try to migrate Firebird
from 3.0.0 towards 3.0.4

From what I read, Firebird 4.0 is going to make it easy to handle
dates more like HSQLDB does.

4.0 is still pre-release, and I have not seen a projected date
for release.  Is it a good idea to move to 4.0?

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] daily Linux dbgutil bibisect repository

[Terrence Enger]

Responding to my whining about inability to update the linux
64-6.3 bibisect repository,

On Thu, 2018-12-27 at 09:40 +0100, Xisco Fauli wrote:
> You just need to clone them from gerrit.

I have cloned a fresh repository, and `git pull origin` seems to
update this one.  I shall give up on my previous clone without
trying to figure out what I did wrong.

Thank you, Xisco.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] daily Linux dbgutil bibisect repository

[Terrence Enger]

I asked about about the daily Linux dbgutil bibisect repository, and ...

On Wed, 2018-12-26 at 17:14 +0100, Xisco Fauli wrote:
> I would recommend you to switch to the 'max' repos.

So far as I can see, the max repos end at 50max.  Am I missing
something?

The alternative I would expect to use is bibisect-linux-64-6.3, but I
am having trouble updating it:

I just finished doing `git fetch`.  After 28 minutes, git reported
having downloaded 916 MB, and the repository grew from 1.7 GB to
2.7 GB, but just as before, have 930 commits:  up to commit 8eae3af6
s-h 1ee8d4f6 2018-12-03.

What, I wonder, am I doing wrong?

Thanks,
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[Libreoffice-qa] daily Linux dbgutil bibisect repository

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Hello, all,

The referenced bibisect repository seems not to have been 
updated since 2018-12-18.  Is there a problem with the 
infrastructure, or am I doing something wrong?

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build failure: AppFileName should be set to something after SVMain!

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Hello, all,

Several local builds in succession have failed with 
messages like:

[GAL] education
warn:vcl:23225:23225:vcl/source/app/svapp.cxx:237: AppFileName should be 
set to something after
SVMain!
Bootstrap exception 'component context fails to supply service
com.sun.star.ucb.UniversalContentBroker of type 
com.sun.star.ucb.XUniversalContentBroker'
make[1]: *** [/home/terry/lo_hacking/git/libo6/solenv/gbuild/Gallery.mk:58:
/home/terry/lo_hacking/git/libo6/workdir/Gallery/diagrams.done] Error 1

The failures occur varying numbers of times and below 
different values for [GAL]...

Suggestions welcome.

Thank you, all, for your attention.
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[solved] failed gerrit builds

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On Fri, 2018-09-21 at 13:24 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
> 
> Device or resource busy is an issue with the build machine, issue on the
> OS/filesystem level and not related to your changes.
> Likely a previous build didn't finish properly and left junk (leftover
> processes) behind.

Thank you.  My next attempt (patch set 7) built successfully.

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Re: local build not running java unit tests

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Stephen's advice here solves the problem I presented.  I am trying to
move this email to another
thread, which discusses difficulties more
like the next difficulty I face here.

On Fri, 2018-09-21 at 09:35 +0200, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
> On 20/09/2018 20:56, Terrence Enger wrote 
... that his local builds did not run Junit tests ...
> 
> Is it just a question of plain `make` (running just a few tests, mostly 
> CppUnit ones) vs. `make check` (running all tests)?  Some of the 
> Gerrit/Jenkins bots run the latter.

Exactly so!  Thank you.

On my machine, the test ran successfully.  I do not know how to dig
deeper.

Meanwhile, I shall try again.  Maybe the problem will go away.  (I
hate it when a problem just goes away.  Almost, I hope that the
problem persists.  Almost.  Sigh!  The test *did* run successfully for
the previous patch set.)

Thank you, Stephen.
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failed gerrit builds

[Terrence Enger]

Greetings all,

In addition to my failure to run Junit tests locally, as I have
described in a previous message, my patch in gerrit
 for bug 119625 is failing
jenkins builds:

(*) patch set 5, gerrit_windows, build # 16069


That page summarizes: 

Aborted by user anonymous

The console output ends with:

[build SLC] sc
[build SLC] sd
Build was aborted
Aborted by unknown
Finished: ABORTED

(*) patch set 6, gerrit_windows, build # 16088


That page summarizes:

Identified problems
No identified problem
Uncategorized build failure. If it is generic enough, please add a 
suitable Cause for it.

The console output contains:

[build CHK] registry
/usr/bin/cp: cannot remove 
'C:/cygwin/home/tdf/lode/jenkins/workspace/gerrit_windows/instdir/program/types.rdb':
 Device or resource busy
make[1]: *** 
[C:/cygwin/home/tdf/lode/jenkins/workspace/gerrit_windows/solenv/gbuild/Package.mk:35:
 
C:/cygwin/home/tdf/lode/jenkins/workspace/gerrit_windows/instdir/program/types.rdb]
 Error 1

I have time available, but I have no idea about how to dig into these
problems.  Moreover, I do not know how my changes since patch set 4,
which built successfully on jenkins, can be making the problem.
Guidance welcome.

Thank you, all, for your attention.
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local build not running java unit tests

[Terrence Enger]

Greetings all,

Having had a failure in a gerrit build
, I
realize that my local builds have not been running any Junit tests.

I am using debian-buster; my autogen.input is 

CC=ccache /usr/bin/gcc
CXX=ccache /usr/bin/g++
CCFLAGS=-Wshadow
--with-jdk-home=/usr/lib/jvm/default-java
--enable-split-debug
--enable-gdb-index
--enable-ld=gold
--enable-option-checking=fatal
--enable-dbgutil
--enable-debug
--without-system-postgresql
--without-myspell-dicts
--with-extra-buildid
--without-doxygen
--with-external-tar=/home/terry/lo_hacking/git/src
--without-package-format

and my java is

$ java -version
openjdk version "10.0.2" 2018-07-17
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 10.0.2+13-Debian-1)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 10.0.2+13-Debian-1, mixed mode)
$ javac -version
javac 10.0.2
$ ls -lA /usr/lib/jvm
total 24
drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4096 Jul 22 23:06 java-10-openjdk-amd64
drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 May 30 11:11 java-8-openjdk-amd64
drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 4096 Apr  7 21:48 java-9-openjdk-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2619 Jul 18 12:31 .java-1.10.0-openjdk-amd64.jinfo
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2600 May 17 16:17 .java-1.8.0-openjdk-amd64.jinfo
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2696 Apr  2 03:28 .java-1.9.0-openjdk-amd64.jinfo
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   25 Apr 30 16:34 default-java -> 
java-1.10.0-openjdk-amd64
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   21 May  5 14:40 java-1.10.0-openjdk-amd64 -> 
java-10-openjdk-amd64
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   20 Nov  2  2016 java-1.8.0-openjdk-amd64 -> 
java-8-openjdk-amd64
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   20 Mar 16  2018 java-1.9.0-openjdk-amd64 -> 
java-9-openjdk-amd64

Please, what am I doing wrong?

Thank you, all, for your attention.
Terry

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Re: GSoC project introduction

[Terrence Enger]

I am adding QA list to recipients, because I can foresee this work
being useful in the preparation of bug reports.

On Sat, 2018-05-05 at 15:14 +0530, Saurav Chirania wrote:
> *Hello community!I am Saurav, an undergraduate from IIT Dhanbad, India.
> I’ve been selected in this year’s GSoC to work with LibreOffice [1].I’ll be
> working with the UI Testing framework. The first task will be to log the UI
> actions in a log file according to a Domain Specific Language. Then, the
> next task will be to automate the replay of the same actions using the
> generated log file.I am ready with a fresh build of LibreOffice and am
> currently browsing the relevant code parts to get more knowledge about the
> different UI elements and how events work in LibreOffice.The timeline I
> proposed in my GsoC proposal is at [2]. Suggestions regarding prioritising
> of tasks, refining of the timeline or anything else to improve on are
> welcome! You can contact me on the IRC channel #libreoffice-dev (nick:
> chirania) or by sending me an email.Looking forward to an enjoyable
> summer!Regards,Saurav Chirania[1] https://tinyurl.com/yba6cnpc
> [2] https://tinyurl.com/ydgax9vk
> *

Whoopee!

Please let me offer some random thoughts.

I have often been unsure what I did to provoke LO to misbehave:
sometimes my attention was absorbed by actual work I was doing,
sometimes I had given up trying carefully to reproduce a bug report
only to see the bug come up later.  So it would be good if the logging
is cheap enough to use routinely during regular work.

For a couple of reasons, I expect that the log file will not replace
the STR in a bug report: (1) The log file will contain irrelevant
operations, everything from a slip-of-the-fingers corrected promptly
to completely different tasks imposed on the user during the LO
session.  Determination of just which operations are relevant may be
tedious, but confidence that the misbehaviour can be reproduced will
justify much more effort than would mere knowledge that LO misbehaved
once.  (2) Part of the QA process for bug reports involves testing
older LO versions.

From this, I conclude that it is important that the log file be
decipherable.  Indeed, for the preparation of bug reports, the
automated playback is mostly important for proving that the bug is
reproducible, thus motivating the decipherment of the log file.  So,
an easily readable log file is better than one which is hard to read,
but the difference is less important than one might guess.

If the log file is not easily readable, then we would eventually want
a program to express it in user-level terms.  As a hack, this program
might not be quite "easy", but it could be undertaken so that it would
not hold up other work.  Perhaps it could be so specified that
language-level programming knowledge (as opposed to knowledge of LO)
would be sufficient for the task.

Thank you, Saurav, for undertaking this work.  Is there a place where
we can follow your progress?

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] GSoC project introduction

[Terrence Enger]

I am adding QA list to recipients, because I can foresee this work
being useful in the preparation of bug reports.

On Sat, 2018-05-05 at 15:14 +0530, Saurav Chirania wrote:
> *Hello community!I am Saurav, an undergraduate from IIT Dhanbad, India.
> I’ve been selected in this year’s GSoC to work with LibreOffice [1].I’ll be
> working with the UI Testing framework. The first task will be to log the UI
> actions in a log file according to a Domain Specific Language. Then, the
> next task will be to automate the replay of the same actions using the
> generated log file.I am ready with a fresh build of LibreOffice and am
> currently browsing the relevant code parts to get more knowledge about the
> different UI elements and how events work in LibreOffice.The timeline I
> proposed in my GsoC proposal is at [2]. Suggestions regarding prioritising
> of tasks, refining of the timeline or anything else to improve on are
> welcome! You can contact me on the IRC channel #libreoffice-dev (nick:
> chirania) or by sending me an email.Looking forward to an enjoyable
> summer!Regards,Saurav Chirania[1] https://tinyurl.com/yba6cnpc
> [2] https://tinyurl.com/ydgax9vk
> *

Whoopee!

Please let me offer some random thoughts.

I have often been unsure what I did to provoke LO to misbehave:
sometimes my attention was absorbed by actual work I was doing,
sometimes I had given up trying carefully to reproduce a bug report
only to see the bug come up later.  So it would be good if the logging
is cheap enough to use routinely during regular work.

For a couple of reasons, I expect that the log file will not replace
the STR in a bug report: (1) The log file will contain irrelevant
operations, everything from a slip-of-the-fingers corrected promptly
to completely different tasks imposed on the user during the LO
session.  Determination of just which operations are relevant may be
tedious, but confidence that the misbehaviour can be reproduced will
justify much more effort than would mere knowledge that LO misbehaved
once.  (2) Part of the QA process for bug reports involves testing
older LO versions.

From this, I conclude that it is important that the log file be
decipherable.  Indeed, for the preparation of bug reports, the
automated playback is mostly important for proving that the bug is
reproducible, thus motivating the decipherment of the log file.  So,
an easily readable log file is better than one which is hard to read,
but the difference is less important than one might guess.

If the log file is not easily readable, then we would eventually want
a program to express it in user-level terms.  As a hack, this program
might not be quite "easy", but it could be undertaken so that it would
not hold up other work.  Perhaps it could be so specified that
language-level programming knowledge (as opposed to knowledge of LO)
would be sufficient for the task.

Thank you, Saurav, for undertaking this work.  Is there a place where
we can follow your progress?

Terry.
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[Libreoffice-qa] text boxes and fonts

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All,

What editing facilities, I wonder, are text boxes supposed to offer.

I notice, for example, that text pasted into a text box sometimes loses
font information (although it retains an attribute such as bold).

Is this a bug?  Or is it merely behaviour that I do not understand?

Thanks,
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Re: minutes of ESC call ...

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On Sun, 2017-07-16 at 02:29 +0200, Markus Mohrhard wrote:
> On Fri, Jul
14, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Michael Meeks  ora.com
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > * SSRLabs Interns (Michael)
> > + eight new hacking interns around: performance & quality
> > + starting on their first easy-hacks.
> > + Any ideas on quality ? (Xisco)
> 
> + can write UI test; can take a couple.
> > 
> 
> So there is also one additional idea around that. I already started
> adding
> some code that generates a log file with all the user interaction in
> the
> hope of automatically transforming that data to UI tests (or
> automatic
> replication of bug reports).

It would be particularly good if this logging was sufficiently
performant that a dedicated tester could have it on routinely.  This
would help in the situation when I am surprised without knowing
exactly what I did.

For example, right now I am unable to reproduce a rendering problem in
Writer that I stumbled over while I was doing real work.  Perhaps it
depends on just what edits I made, how I moved the cursor around, what
I undo'd (Let us hope that never becomes a word. ), or even
the content of the document.  As it is now, I have just about given
up.

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[Libreoffice-qa] lo-linux-dbgutil-daily version 2017-06-22 lacks opt/program/

[Terrence Enger]

Hi, all,


I just (2017-06-23, 13:15 UTC) git pull'ed the linux dbgutil
daily bibisect repository.  Now origin/master is

f35020e1 2017-06-22: source-hash-6115b109

which lacks opt/program/.

Does anybody get a better result?  Is there anything I can do?

Thanks,
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[Libreoffice-qa] proposed keyword filter:docbook

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Hello,

Both the dropdown list of keywords in bugzilla and 
 lack the 
keyword filter:docbook.

My interest arises from bug 108310 "FILEOPEN: particular docbook .xml 
is truncated."

Would it be a good idea to have this keyword?  If so, who can make it
happen?

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Re: must press enter/return thrice to force new paragraph (sometimes)

[Terrence Enger]

On Thu, 2017-03-09 at 18:13 +, Dwain Alford wrote:
> hello,

Hello, Dwain.

Thank you for taking the time to help us improve LibreOffice.
However, this list is more for coding-level discussions than for
problem reports.  For example, the programmer fixing a bug might come
here to ask, how do I change such-and-such to do such-and-such.

I suspect--emphasis on "suspect"--that you are seeing normal behaviour
of LibreOffice.  You can go to
 to ask how to accomplish
what you want to do.  If, then, you think that LibreOffice is behaving
wrongly, you can file a bug report at
.  For help filing a bug report,
you can send a message to .

HTH,
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[Libreoffice-qa] daily Linux dbgutil bibisect repo falling behind

[Terrence Enger]

Hello,

I notice that the daily Linux dbgutil bibisect repository has most 
recent version 2017-01-21, about two days older than I expect it to 
be.  Has something gone wrong?

Thanks,
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Re: Please add an option to set bug reports to "Private"

[Terrence Enger]

On Wed, 2016-12-21 at 07:08 +0100, "Christoph Schäfer"
 wrote asking for a way to send
failing documents so that they
would be accessible only to
developers and admins.

The QA team consists of whoever cares to show up.  We routinely
do some work on bug reports.  So, this proposal would force this
work onto developers and admins.  I am talking about work like
...

(*) Ensure that the bug has not already been reported.

(*) Ensure that the steps for reproduction are clear and
complete.  Generally, they should be adequate even for
someone who does not usually us the feature in question.

(*) Find at least one other system where the bug is evdent.

(*) Determine whether the bug represents a regression form an
earlier version of LibreOffice.

(*) Determine when a regression entered LibreOffice.

On balance, I view the transfer of work to developers as
undesirable.
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[Libreoffice-qa] libboost_filesystem missing from daily Linux dbgutil repository

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Starting with version 2016-07-29, the daily Linux dbgutil repository 
reports ...

error while loading shared libraries: libboost_filesystem.so.1.54.0:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
when I try to run LibreOffice.

Is a problem with a bibisect repository grounds for a bug report? 
Suggestions welcome.


Thanks,
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Re: [ANN] orcus 0.11.0 on master

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On Tue, 8 Mar 2016, Kohei Yoshida wrote:


Hi there,

BTW, I'll probably release 0.11.1 soon since there are quite a few build
issues already uncovered as a result of the 0.11.0 integration effort.


** 2016-03-09
I do not know whether this particular problem has been reported, or
even if it is related.

(*) I pulled commit 68b5875 (about 2016-03-08 16:00 Z) into a lightly
hacked repository.  The hacks are in connectivity/.
(*) make sc.clean
(*) make

Since then, each make does a lot of work, including recompiling some
.cxx files in sc/.  The work done is different from one make to the
next.  Here is one example of terminal output.

terry@lynn-stretch:~/lo_hacking/git/libo6$ make
mkdir -p /home/terry/lo_hacking/git/libo6/instdir
/home/terry/lo_hacking/git/libo6/solenv/bin/install-gdb-printers -a 
/home/terry/lo_hacking/git/libo6/instdir -c

make -j 2  -rs -f /home/terry/lo_hacking/git/libo6/Makefile.gbuildall
[PRL] CustomTarget/postprocess/images/sorted.lst
[PRL] CustomTarget/postprocess/images/commandimagelist.ilst
[ECH] CustomTarget/instsetoo_native/setup/versionrc
[LOC] top level modules: libreoffice
[CUT] basegfx
[CUT] basic_scanner
[CUT] basic_macros
[CUT] binaryurp_test-cache
[CUT] binaryurp_test-unmarshal
[CUT] chart2_common_functors
[CUT] comphelper_syntaxhighlight_test
[CUT] comphelper_variadictemplates_test
[CUT] comphelper_ifcontainer
[CUT] comphelper_test
[CUT] configmgr_unit
[CUT] connectivity_mork
[CUT] connectivity_commontools
[CUT] cppcanvas_test
[CUT] cppu_qa_any
[CUT] cppu_qa_recursion
[CUT] cppu_qa_reference
[CUT] cppu_qa_unotype
[CUT] cppu_test_cppumaker
[CUT] cppuhelper_cppu_ifcontainer
[CUT] cppuhelper_cppu_unourl
[CUT] dbaccess_firebird_test
[CUT] dbaccess_macros_test
[CUT] dbaccess_hsqldb_test
[CUT] dbaccess_embeddeddb_performancetest
[CUT] desktop_version
[CUT] desktop_lib
[CUT] editeng_core
[CUT] editeng_borderline
[CUT] editeng_lookuptree
[CUT] filter_xslt
[CUT] filter_priority
[CUT] filter_msfilter
[CUT] filter_dxf_test
[CUT] filter_eps_test
[CUT] filter_met_test
[CUT] filter_pcd_test
[CUT] filter_pcx_test
[CUT] filter_pict_test
[CUT] filter_ppm_test
[CUT] filter_psd_test
[CUT] filter_ras_test
[CUT] filter_tiff_test
[CUT] filter_tga_test
[CUT] hwpfilter_test_hwpfilter
[CUT] i18nlangtag_test_languagetag
[CUT] i18npool_test_breakiterator
[CUT] i18npool_test_characterclassification
[CUT] i18npool_test_ordinalsuffix
[CUT] i18npool_test_textsearch
[CUT] libreofficekit_checkapi
[CUT] lotuswordpro_test_lotuswordpro
[CUT] o3tl_tests
[CUT] odk_checkapi
[CHK] CustomTarget/odk/check/checkbin
[CUT] officecfg_cppheader_test
[CUT] oox_tokenmap
[CUT] oox_vba_compression
[CUT] oox_vba_encryption
[CUT] package2_test
[PYT] pyuno_pytests_ssl
[CUT] sal_osl_file
[CUT] Module_DLL
[CUT] sal_osl_security
[CUT] sal_bytesequence
[CUT] sal_osl_condition
[CUT] sal_osl_getsystempathfromfileurl
[CUT] sal_osl_mutex
[CUT] sal_osl_old_test_file
[CUT] sal_osl_pipe
[CUT] sal_osl_process
[CUT] sal_osl_profile
[CUT] sal_osl_setthreadname
[CUT] sal_osl_thread
[CUT] sal_rtl_alloc
[CUT] sal_rtl_bootstrap
[CUT] sal_rtl_cipher
[CUT] sal_rtl_crc32
[CUT] sal_rtl_digest
[CUT] sal_rtl_doublelock
[CUT] sal_rtl_locale
[CUT] sal_rtl_math
[CUT] sal_rtl_ostringbuffer
[CUT] sal_rtl_oustring
[CUT] sal_rtl_oustringbuffer
[CUT] sal_rtl_process
[CUT] sal_rtl_random
[CUT] sal_rtl_ref
[CUT] sal_rtl_strings
[CUT] sal_rtl_textenc
[CUT] sal_rtl_uri
[CUT] sal_rtl_uuid
[CUT] sal_tcwf
[CUT] sal_types
[CUT] salhelper_testapi
[CUT] sax
[CUT] sax_attributes
[CUT] sax_parser
[CXX] sc/qa/unit/helper/qahelper.cxx
[CXX] sc/qa/unit/helper/xpath.cxx
[CXX] sc/qa/unit/ucalc.cxx
[CXX] sc/qa/unit/ucalc_column.cxx
[CXX] sc/qa/unit/ucalc_condformat.cxx
[CXX] sc/qa/unit/ucalc_formula.cxx
[CXX] sc/qa/unit/ucalc_pivottable.cxx
[CXX] sc/qa/unit/ucalc_sharedformula.cxx
[CXX] sc/qa/unit/ucalc_sort.cxx
[CXX] sc/qa/unit/filters-test.cxx
[CXX] sc/qa/unit/rangelst_test.cxx
[CUT] sc_core
[CUT] sccomp_lpsolver
[CUT] sd_uimpress
[CUT] sd_import_tests
[CUT] sd_export_tests
[CUT] sd_filters_test
[CUT] sd_misc_tests
[CUT] sd_html_export_tests
[CUT] sd_tiledrendering
[CUT] sd_svg_export_tests
[CUT] sdext_pdfimport
[CUT] sfx2_metadatable
[CUT] sfx2_controlleritem
[CUT] sot_test_sot
[CUT] starmath_import
[CUT] starmath_qa_cppunit
[CUT] svgio
[CUT] svl_inetcontenttype
[CUT] svl_itempool
[CUT] svl_items
[CUT] svl_lngmisc
[CUT] svl_notify
[CUT] svl_qa_cppunit
[CUT] svl_urihelper
[CUT] svtools_graphic
[CUT] svtools_html
[CUT] svx_unit
[CUT] tools_test
[CUT] ucb_webdav_local
[CUT] unotools_fontdefs
[CUT] vcl_lifecycle
[CUT] vcl_bitmap_test
[CUT] vcl_fontcharmap
[CUT] vcl_font
[CUT] vcl_fontmetric
[CUT] vcl_complextext
[CUT] vcl_filters_test
[CUT] vcl_mapmode
[CUT] vcl_outdev
[CUT] vcl_app_test
[CUT] vcl_wmf_test
[CUT] vcl_timer
[CUT] writerperfect_stream
[CUT] xmloff_uxmloff
[CUT] chart2_export
[CUT] chart2_import
[CUT] chart2_trendcalculators
[CUT] cppcanvas_emfplus
[CXX] sc/qa/extras/sccondformats.cxx
[CXX] sc/qa/extras/new_cond_format.cxx
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Start Center, shortcuts, and so forth

[Terrence Enger]

Thank you, all.

I see that the situation is under control.

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[Libreoffice-qa] Start Center, shortcuts, and so forth

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Hi, all,

I notice in Start Center on both Linux and Windows that "+F" opens the
dialog "Remote Files", thus closing off direct access to "+F X" to
close the program.  I presume this is a bug, right?

But I am confused about about shortcut keys, accelerator keys, and
navigation within Start Center.  Does there exist a description of what I
should expect? 
(
does not describe navigation at all.)

Would it be good to have Start Center as a component in bugzilla?

Thank you, all, for your help.
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] VMs for testing or bibisecting

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Hi Sophi,

I think that I would use that a bit if it is offered.

BTW, the latest build on win-x86@39 is from December 01.  Does anybody know
what is going on here?

There was once talk about a virtual machine (I assume running Linux) for
database testing.  Is that still a possibility?

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Building or bibisecting

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I quite often do bibisect, most often from the daily dbgutil repository for
Linux, but going to older versions as needed.  I have, just for the fun of
it, cloned the Windows bibisect repository, and it seems to be good; however
it covers such a narrow range of commits that I seldom think of using it.

I do occasionally do a local build, but not very often:  the build takes
about 30 hours, thirty very warm hours.  Of course, my system falls well
short of the minimum recommended specs.

HTH,
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[Libreoffice-qa] Start Center

[Terrence Enger]

Hi, All,

A couple of questions about the Start Centre, if I may ...

(1) Starting with the dbgutil bibisect repo version
2015-07-10, the shortcut keys in the left pane are no
longer underscored, and it is necessary to qualify the
shortcut keys with Alt+.  Is this change intentional?
Windows (daily build, 2015-07-23) does not have this
change.

(2) The keys up-arrow and down-arrow move the selection,
indicated by a fine outline, through the options in the
top part of the left pane.  This seems to have been the
case since the introduction of the left pane, in Start
Center, but I somehow expected to be able to select the
Create options this way.  Am I wrong to be surprised?

Thanks,
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bug Triage: What takes the most time? What slows you down?

[Terrence Enger]

On Wed, 2015-07-01 at 09:28 -0400, Robinson Tryon wrote:
 I'm interested in hearing what takes the biggest chunk of your time
 during bug triage, so we can see if we can simplify and/or reduce the
 time/energy that we spend on each bug.

A good chunk of the time--and a disproportionately large part of the
frustration--is checking for potential duplicates.  The hard part, of
course, is imagining the words that an existing report might use to
describe the problem.  An implausibly short list from a bz query or a
tremendously long one are both useless.

If bibisecting shows that a bug is fairly new, a limitation by bug
creation date can usefully restrict the number of potential duplicates
returned.

Still, finding duplicates is the part of the process about which I
feel least competent.

(Needless to say, I am writing this weeks later because I am searching
for a potential duplicate.)

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[Libreoffice-qa] need advice about tdf#80175

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Hi, all.

I have reached a point where tdf#80157 FILEOPEN: error message
opening particular .docx might or might not be ready to be marked
resolved.  Comment 11
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80175#c11
describes how far I got.  Advice welcome.

BTW, I have a vague memory of a whiteboard word or a keyword for
asking for QA advice, but I do not see it in either
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Whiteboard or
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Keywords.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] bug in dbgutil bibisect repostory only

[Terrence Enger]

On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 19:24 +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:
 tl;dr: Someone who knows how to file a good bug report should in doubt
~always
 file a bug report.

Thank you, Bjoern.

I wanted to write I have tried this with a new user profile, but
that sent the problem into abeyance.

I do not know how to compare user profiles, I do not know what I did
to screw up the regular one, and I do not even know what version of
LibreOffice I did it in.  I hate to do this, but I am giving up.

Moreover, the obvious workaround--to unmaximize and and then maximize
the LibreOffice window--fixes the display.

Thanks,
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[Libreoffice-qa] bug in dbgutil bibisect repostory only

[Terrence Enger]

Hi, All,

What is the procedure for a bug which happens only in the daily dbgutil 
bibisect repository?  Is a bug report appropriate?  Something else?

The problem in question is an application occupying only part of the 
LibreOffice window, as per attached screenshot.

Thank you for your guidance,
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Re: new warning messages on console since some days + strange behaviour

[Terrence Enger]

On Mon, 2015-06-22 at 13:26 -0700, julien2412 wrote:
 I don't know if everything is linked but it seems quite a mess here and
 before creating a bugtracker, wanted to have your opinion first.

Another odd thing in the dbgutil bibisect version 2015-06-22: Upon the
initial display of an application in a maximized LibreOffice window,
the application fills only part of the maximized window.  If you
unmaximize the window and maximize it again, the application fills the
whole window.

I have not searched bugzilla to see if this has been reported already.

Terry.
 
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Issues with Display of Dialogs of 5.0-beta2

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Stuart's answer is obviously more to the point than mine.  Please
disregard what I wrote ...

On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 13:05 -0400, Terrence Enger wrote:
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Issues with Display of Dialogs of 5.0-beta2

[Terrence Enger]

On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 17:28 +0200, Andreas Mantke wrote:
 
 I installed the beta3 now and deleted my LibreOffice-dev user profile.
 The dialogue for Text displays fine now, but if I call the paragraph
 dialog instead (context menu) I get the issue again.
 
 I tried again a second time (after deleting the profile again) with the
 paragraph dialogue directly and get the rendering issue with that dialog
 too.

Hmm.  I think it is time to file a bug report through our bug tracker
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/; you will need to create a user
account.  How to Report Bugs in LibreOffice
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugReport will provide
general guidance.

The level of detail that you write in your steps to reproduce is
important: it may allow people (like me) who are not very familiar
with Impress to move the bug report along.

Please add me, lo_b...@iseries-guru.com, to the cc of the report.

Thank you for helping us out.
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Issues with Display of Dialogs of 5.0-beta2

[Terrence Enger]

On Thu, 2015-06-11 at 22:13 +0200, Andreas Mantke wrote:
 Hello,

Hi,

 
 I installed LibreOffice 5.0-beta2-x64 on my openSuSE 13.2 with KDE
 4.14.8 and got issues with the display of some dialogs. E.g. if I open a
 new presentation in Impress and call in the context menu 'Text' the
 dialog gets only a small part with a grey background. The biggest part
 of the dialog gets a transparent background.

In late May we had a flurry of bugs which sounded like this.
tdf#01488 [META] RenderContext related issues collects a lot of
them.

However, I thought they were mostly fixed by the time of beta2.  Just
now in Impress in beta2, I see a fully-painted context menu in each of
the three big panes.

I hate to suggest that you are confused about what version you are
running, but well, right now I am talking about ...

Version: 5.0.0.0.beta2
Build ID: 059fa2b7a3bda92168c65c61e50cc5c6fda8cfac
Locale: en-CA (en_CA.UTF-8)


 
 But there are many of such dialogs in 5.0, that behave that way. It's an
 regression to 4.4 etc.
 
 I tried with the own dialogs of LibreOffice but that doesn't change
 anything.
 
 Is this only a KDE thing or is this behavior shown on other desktop
 environments too?

My environment is debian-wheezy with gnome in a fallback mode.  So,
that difference might be the second thing I would look at.

BTW, you know that beta3 is available now, don't you?

Regards,
Terry.

 
 Regards,
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Re: test infrastructure ideas appreciated ...

[Terrence Enger]

Thanks to Michael Meeks for asking for suggestions for test
infrastructure.

I suggest a bunch of virtual partitions provisioned with all the
world's freely available database engines.  This would enpower
interested testers to work on Base bugs without having to have the
database engine referenced in the bug report.

This idea has been floating around for years.  The wiki page
User:Drew/baseQA VM
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Drew/baseQA_VM has not been
updated since 2011.

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[Libreoffice-qa] [Fwd: test infrastructure ideas appreciated ...]

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Perhaps QA people will be interested in this.  Note that Michael asks
for replies on the dev list.

The thread on nabble is
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/test-infrastructure-ideas-appreciated-td4150433.html

Terry.

 Forwarded Message 
 From: Michael Meeks michael.me...@collabora.com
 To: libreoffice-dev libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org
 Subject: test infrastructure ideas appreciated ...
 Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 14:33:23 +0100
 
 Hi guys,
 
   The ESC are interested in improving unit (and other automated) testing
 and are interested in concrete ideas for implementing new automated
 tests to prevent regressions. We hope to turn this into a proposal for
 the Board, which if approved -could- turn into a tender to fund more
 work in this area. Having said that writing unit tests is every
 developers' responsibility where feasible - so this ask focuses on new
 infrastructure.
 
   It is noticeable that where there are existing tests  infrastructure,
 new tests are easier to create and often there are more of them - so are
 there places where we should work to create infrastructure ?
 
   Is there something we can improve by throwing hardware at it ? as we
 have done for the crash-testing; if so what hardware is needed ?
 
   Is there a large area of code that is completely un-tested or
 under-tested that you'd love us to invest in making test-able ?
 
   Is there a test that currently only runs in an obscure setup /
 corner-case that we can invest in standardizing and making more easy to
 use ?
 
   Constructive thoughts appreciated in reply here.
 
   ATB,
 
   Michael.
 
 -- 
  michael.me...@collabora.com  , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot
 
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[Libreoffice-qa] SOLVED 50 max bibisect repository

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On Wed, 2015-06-03 at 14:43 +0800, Matthew J. Francis wrote:
On 03/06/2015 08:56, Terrence Enger wrote:
  However, im my (chroot to) debian-sid environment, soffice.bin fails
  for lack of librtmp.so.0.  debian-sid offers librtmp1 but not
  librtmp0.
 
 According to some discussion of this on IRC last night, the problem is 
 that the bundled curl had an unnoticed (and unneeded) dependency on the 
 old librtmp.
 
 I don't have the relevant Debian to check, but it was suggested that the 
 solution as a user is to manually install the librtmp0 from wheezy.

That did the job.  I also got dependencies libgcrypt11, libgnutls26,
and libtasn1-3 from wheezy.

I have added this information to wiki...HowToBibisect
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/HowToBibisect; my changes are
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=QA%2FHowToBibisectdiff=111575oldid=111528.

Thank you, Stephan and Matthew, for your help.

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[Libreoffice-qa] 50 max bibisect repository

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Hi, All,

I was really excited to see the 50 max bibisect repository appear on
the wiki page How to bibisect.

However, im my (chroot to) debian-sid environment, soffice.bin fails
for lack of librtmp.so.0.  debian-sid offers librtmp1 but not
librtmp0.

I am a bit surprised to meet this problem, as I have been regularly
running versions from the Linux dbgutil repository.  Hmm, then again,
the wiki page does not reveal the build platform for those versions.

I do have debian-wheezy, but it lacks the needed versions of glibc.
For reasons which have receded into the mists of time, I thought that
I cannot or do not want to install the needed glibc in wheezy.

Suggestions welcome.

Thanks,
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] organizing our crasher bugs ?

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On Wed, 2015-05-27 at 15:25 +0100, Caolán McNamara wrote:
 There are ~190 bugs with the word crash in the summary in the states
 new/assigned/reopened/unconfirmed.

And another 28 with one of [ segfault segmentation sigabrt sigsegv ] in 
a comment.  
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDchfield=[Bug%20creation]chfieldto=Nowf1=longdescf2=short_desco1=anywordssubstro2=notsubstringorder=Bug%20Numberproduct=LibreOfficequery_format=advancedv1=segfault%20segmentation%20sigabrt%20sigsegvv2=crash

And then are raised assertions, which crash only for people using 
paranoid build options.  I think it would be good to leave them for 
another day.

Just my C$0.02 worth.
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] organizing our crasher bugs ?

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On Wed, 2015-05-27 at 15:25 +0100, Caolán McNamara wrote:
 There are ~190 bugs with the word crash in the summary in the states
 new/assigned/reopened/unconfirmed.

And another 28 with one of [ segfault segmentation sigabrt sigsegv ] in 
a comment.  
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDchfield=[Bug%20creation]chfieldto=Nowf1=longdescf2=short_desco1=anywordssubstro2=notsubstringorder=Bug%20Numberproduct=LibreOfficequery_format=advancedv1=segfault%20segmentation%20sigabrt%20sigsegvv2=crash

And then are raised assertions, which crash only for people using 
paranoid build options.  I think it would be good to leave them for 
another day.

Just my C$0.02 worth.
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Informations and help for a bug report

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Marina,

Thank you for taking the time to help us improve LibreOffice.

A bug report would be good, please.  Please add me
lo_bugs@iseries-guru-com to the CC.  I can confirm the bug, and I
hope to do a bibisect.

More comments in-line.

Terry.

On Tue, 2015-01-27 at 17:10 +0100, Marina Latini wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm writing here because I need to report a bug but I have some
problem to write the correct report.

This looks wonderful.  

 
 I have a business xlsx file with complex formulas. In particular there
are:
 * matrix with nested indirect references
 * formulas that refer to a query from Excel.

My old LibreOffice complains

This file contains links to other files.  Should they be updated?

When I click No it displays the file, but pegs the CPU for the few
minutes that I waited for it.

I presume that you have the linked-to file(s).  Do you get the same
result when you do and do not update the links?

 
 I can't open the document with a LibreOffice version bigger then
3.6.7.2. All the 4.X versions hang during opening while LibreOffice
3.6.7.2 opens the file with some errors.
 
 I can provide the xlsx file and 3 screenshots of the document opened
with Office365 and LibreOffice 3.6.7.2.
 I tested the files on my Ubuntu 14.04 x86_64 and on Windows Server
2012 R2
 
 I don't know what LibreOffice version set in the report but I'm sure
that 3.6.7.2 opens the file.

Set the earliest version which you have observed to fail to open the
file.  Anybody who finds an earlier failing version will adjust the
LibreOffice version to the earlier version.

 
 file to test: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4rmc162mgjisd4a/01%
20CLEAN.xlsx?dl=0
 
 Screenshot from Office365:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ws8rr3mj6juouuo/01Clean_Office365.png?dl=0
 Screenshot from LibreOffice 3.6.7.2 (query):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/00xnspejrrk1nfd/01CleanLibO-query3672.png?dl=0
 Screenshot from LibreOffice 3.6.7.2 (matrix with indirect):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h5qtxf6ji9u71n2/01CleanLibO-indirect3672.png?dl=0
 
 
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Bugzilla] images attached to bugs do not open inside FF any longer

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On Sun, 2015-01-25 at 17:30 +0100, Thomas Hackert wrote:
 Hello @ll,
 maybe this is not a bug, but a feature, but ...
 
 When I try to open an screenshot in our own BZ instance, FF asks me 
 either to open it with an external program or to save it to disk. 
 With FDO's BZ they opened within the browser itself. Is this 
 intended?
 
 Steps to reproduce:
 1. Go to e.g. 
 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60557
 2. click on one of the attached jpegs (for example 
 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=74503)

The list of the attachments shows the second URL given above.
However, my results are different.

Mouseover in FireFox shows the URL above, however clicking the link
makes my FireFox report:

The page isn't redirecting properly

Iceweasel has detected that the server is redirecting the request
for this address in a way that will never complete.

(*) This problem can sometimes be caused by disabling or refusing
to accept cookies.

wget agrees.  I used the command (whitespace added):

wget --server-response
 --no-check-certificate
 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=74503

The last bit of terminal output is:

--2015-01-25 12:10:20--
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=74503
Connecting to bugs.documentfoundation.org
(bugs.documentfoundation.org)|89.238.68.150|:443... connected.
WARNING: The certificate of `bugs.documentfoundation.org' is not
trusted.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 
  HTTP/1.1 302 Found
  Server: nginx/1.2.1
  Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 17:05:36 GMT
  Transfer-Encoding: chunked
  Connection: keep-alive
  X-xss-protection: 1; mode=block
  Location: http://bugs.libreoffice.org/attachment.cgi?id=74503
  X-frame-options: SAMEORIGIN
  X-content-type-options: nosniff
Location: http://bugs.libreoffice.org/attachment.cgi?id=74503
[following]
20 redirections exceeded.

HTH,
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[Libreoffice-qa] installation of daily build for Win

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Hello, all.

I have downloaded
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Win-x86@39/current/master~2015-01-07_00.57.18_LibreOfficeDev_4.5.0.0.alpha0_Win_x86.msi,
and I am trying to install it on Windows Vista SP1.  The installation
command (all one line) (I am retyping this):

msiexec /a
master~2015-01-07_00.57.18_LibreOfficeDev_4.5.0.0.alpha0_Win_x86.msi
TARGETDIR=c:\Program Files\LibreOffice_master_20150107

The installation window LibreOfficeDev 4.5.0.0.alpha0 - Installation
Wizard shows Status: Copying new files and now I have dialog

LibreOfficeDev 4.5.0.0.alpha0 Installation Wizard

Error 1334.The file 'ib_svl__libreoff' cannot be installed because
the file cannot be found in cabinet file
'libreofficedev1.cab'. This could indicate a network error, and
error reading from the CD-ROM, or a problem with this package.

Is there anything I could be doing wrong to make this happen?  Has
anybody succeeded in installing this build?

Thanks,
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] installation of daily build for Win

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On Wed, 2015-01-07 at 08:14 -0700, V Stuart Foote wrote:
 Hi Terry,
 
 I get a clean /A  administrative install of the build.
 
 http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4135478/LODev450_20150107_goodLaunch.jpg
  
 
 Here are HASHs for a clean download.
 
 MD5   d4fd4717662800ed9ddf2613e2ca82f2
 
That's it.  I shall start over.

 SHA-256   18903d3b926f9fc328b15c6d7e0d7e2346149ddd5172f88630e655aa2acc8fef
 
 Stuart

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ping to retest old bugs

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On Mon, 2015-01-05 at 10:03 -0800, Joel Madero wrote:
 Top posting again:
 
 The mass ping has been done. If I'm poked once a month as a reminder
 I'll do it monthly so that the list is manageable.
 
 here is a link that I believe we can monitor:
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEWchfieldfrom=2015-01-05chfieldto=Nowemail1=qa-admin%40libreoffice.orgemaillongdesc1=1emailtype1=substringlist_id=511601product=LibreOfficequery_format=advanced
 
The selection criteria are:
Product LibreOffice
status NEW
commenter contains qa-ad...@libreoffice.org
The query returned 283 bugs.  A couple of points:

(1) I think this will capture subsequently-changed bugs which have
received an automated message, for example a message about
longstanding NEEDINFO status.  For comparison, a few minutes later
I get 280 bugs from the query
Product LibreOffice 
Status NEW
Comment contains exact string reporters and confirmers to retest open

(2) I notice that Alex Thurgood on Saturday added himself to the cc
field of lots of bug reports with component Database.  And the 283
bugs from Joel's query do not have any with component Database.

Alex,

Do you want this bunch of bugs excluded from the ping?

HTH,
Terry.


 Anything that has a change time past: 17:52:42 on 05/01/2015 has had
 someone other than qa-admin account touch it.
 
 Best,
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Re: problem with .odt file

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On Wed, 2014-12-17 at 18:33 +0100, Dieter Naujoks wrote:
 Hello!
 

Hello,

 I don't know what's wrong with this file. It is prduceed by a php-script.

The odf validator at http://odf-validator.rhcloud.com/ reports 60
errors.  Fixing those is probably the right place to start.

 
 Opening with libreoffice reports an error and offers thr repair.
 
 Would you please tell me what's wrong?

You are more likeley to get the help you need in the libreoffice forum
at http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/questions/.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] rr - lightweight recording deterministic debugging

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On Thu, 2014-10-30 at 15:10 -0700, bfoman wrote:
 Hi!
 Today I stumbled upon rr - lightweight recording  deterministic debugging
 tool. 
 More infos at http://rr-project.org, source https://github.com/mozilla/rr. 
 This potentially could be great tool for developers to debug. Just imagine
 that .rr file is attached to bug report and dev simply downloads it and
 replays the crash in his environment. 
 Any volunteer using Linux to have time to check if that tool works with
 LibreOffice?
 Best regards.

This sounds really interesting, but I was not able to install the
package.  I forget where I got to before giving up.

Beside the uses that others foresee, I had dreams of another use:
(*) The overhead during data collection is said to be 15 to 20%.  Thus
I could afford to use it all the time.
(*) I would then have a record of what I did in the all-too-common
case where LibreOffice crashes while I am futzing around *after*
giving up the attempt to recreate a reported bug; of course I
have stopped making careful notes of what I was doing.
(*) Maybe(!) I could learn to read the recorded data and extract user
inputs.
(*) And then, of course, there is the exercise of cutting out parts of
the user actions until we have more-or-less minimal crasher.

On Mon, 2014-12-15 at 12:26 +0100, Michael Stahl wrote:
 On 14.12.2014 22:26, Robinson Tryon wrote:
  Auto-replay of bug repro steps sounds pretty awesome for various
  reasons, especially for drudge work such as re-testing MAB's and
  moving them from, say, 4.2 - 4.3. Even if we have a real person do
 
 well that's not what rr does.  rr records a single execution and can
 replay it, which is useful to track down bugs that are very hard to
 reproduce - but the replay only works with identical program binaries.

I suspect that a lot of things must be the same.  Like, for example,
the full names of files being opened or saved, configuration options,
and what-not.  So, transferring a test to another system might be
quite a lot of work.  It might be easier to figure out how give a
developer access to my machine.

All the best,
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Re: C++11 on master (towards LO 4.5)

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On Wed, 2014-12-03 at 15:35 +0100, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
 On 11/28/2014 09:22 AM, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
  Maintainers of active Windows tinderboxes (on cc, as of
 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Tinderbox#List_of_registered_Tinderboxes),
  please make sure until, say, mid of next week (Dec 3) that they are
  using MSVC 2013 for master builds.  I'll then make configure fail on
  anything less.
 
 In place now with 

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=6c3ff6323e1bfd7f9ca676b2edb2647699ed405f
 
 Master requires MSVC 2013 now.

It's not a big deal for me (because I am just looking for trouble,
not trying to get work done), but maybe somebody cares: my attempt to
run LibreOffice installed from (I am retyping this with newlines
added)

 http://dev-build.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Win-x86@43/current/

libo-master~2014-12-04_02.44.11_LibreOfficeDev_4.5.0.0.alpha0_Win_x86.msi

on Windows Vista fails with message

This application has failed to start because MSVCR120.dll was not
found.  Re-installing the application may fix this problem.

A comparison with my previous installation, TinderBox:
Win-x86@51-TDF, Branch:MASTER, Time: 2014-11-28_08:54:54, shows that
program/ within the older installation has msvc480.dll but the newer
version does not.  Neither program/ has MSVCR120.dll.

HTH,
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Re: LibreOffice extensions to ODF: Improving documentation

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On Thu, 2014-11-27 at 09:07 -0500, Robinson Tryon wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Michael Stahl mst...@redhat.com wrote:
  and if you select to store your files in a specific,
  non-extended version in Tools-Options you don't (or at least shouldn't)
  get any extensions...
 
 I totally agree :-)  My reasoning was that once ODF 1.3 comes out, ODF
 1.2 Extended might still be a user-selectable option. But perhaps that
 won't be the case?

Is there a cost to keeping 1.2 Extended?  I can imagine it might be
useful for people sharing documents with users of an older, pre-1.3,
LibreOffice.

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[Libreoffice-qa] daily dbgutil bibisect repo, request for git log

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Yikes!  Somehow--I have no idea how--I have screwed my local daily
dbgutil bibisect repository.  Will somebody please send me the output
from `git log --all` in that repository?

Thanks,
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Re: C++11 on master (towards LO 4.5)

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On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 09:13 +0100, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
interesting stuff about features of C++ supported by various
compilers.

The range-based `for` offers clearer code, IMHO.  When, I wonder, is
it appropriate to use it?
(*) New code?
(*) When I am changing a for-statement anyway?
(*) Throughout a function when I am changing a for-statement anyway?
(*) Not at all until we are ready to make the change throughout the
system?

Similarly, what about `auto` type declarations (which often fit
naturally into variable definitions in a for-statement?

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Re: Repair corrupted odt

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On Sun, 2014-11-23 at 12:01 +0100, Olivier Chorier wrote:
 Hello everybody,

Olivier,

I am afraid that this list is unlikely to give you the help you need.
I shall write my thoughts about your problem, but if you still have
difficulty, the forum at http://ask.libreoffice.org/ is a better
place for questions like yours.

It is important to tell us the systems involved, both the source and
the destination of the ftp transfer.  If one of your systems is OS/X,
my comments below apply in priciple, although the detailed form of the
damage is different.

 
 I'm looking for a way to repair thousands of corrupted odt files. Those
 files have been corrupted after FTP send operations, for some reason.

I would give long odds that you did the ftp transfer in ASCII mode;
this is the default, and it is really easy to forget to change the
transfer mode to BINARY.  The fact that transfers between Unix-derived
systems do not require the specification lets us get into the habit of
forgetting.

 
 The zip structure seems corrupted. I tried using 7-zip to unzip and zip
 again the odt file, but it doesn't work every time.

An ASCII-mode ftp transfer between a Windows-like system and a
Unix-like system converts line endings to match the conventions of the
respective systems.  A zip file does not actually consist of lines,
of course.  That is why we call the result damage.

 Libre Office can repair them every time, but I need to open, repair, save
 and close those files one by one.

I am surprised that LibreOffice can do the repair.  I would have
guessed otherwise.  How sure are you that the result is correct?

If you are forced to recover files this way, let's think of
command-line foo to reduce the number of times you have to pay
attention to the process.

 
 I wonder if a script or something like that could be used to repair those
 files. I can't do it manually because there is thousand of them. Ideally, I
 could check them, and repair them automatically using a bash or a java
 script...

The most direct and most reliable way is to repeat the ftp transfer,
but precede the actual transfer with ftp command `binary`.  If this
solution is available to you, it is the best by a wide margin IMHO.

You might be able to recover by transferring the files back to the
original system in ASCII mode and then transferring them back to your
current system in BINARY mode.  The emphasis here is on might: the
translation of line-endings may not be reversible.

HTH,
Terry.

 
 Thank you very much for your help,
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Re: Layer manager window for Draw

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Ron,

Thank you for helping us to improve LibreOffice.

The most direct way to record your suggestion is in our bug tracking 
system https://bugs.freedesktop.org/.  After you create an account, 
you can create a bug report with priority Enhancement.

HTH,
Terry.

On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 08:30 -0700, Ron W wrote:
 This one feature alone would make Draw awesome :
 
 ===
 Draw: add Layer manager window
 
 Idea: To improve handling the layers it is necessary to add a new window 
 similar to Navigator (F5) which will show all layers, their status, 
 order, visibility etc... Similar functions as in Gimp (f.ex.)
 
 
 Not sure if there is a LibreOffice feature voting tool - but this single 
 feature gets my vote!
 
 -- Ron
 
 
 
 
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 View this message in context: 
 http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Layer-manager-window-for-Draw-tp4129829.html
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Re: 143 Potential Easy Hacks (kind of ;) )

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On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 19:27 -0800, Joel Madero wrote:
 So as a reminder - whiteboard status needsDevEval is
 proposedEasyHack.

And then there is bug 85785 Multiple CPU calculate
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85785, which I think
is a good candidate for WONTFIX because it so hard as to be beyond
consideration.  But a developer's opinion on the matter, unlike mine,
would be worth something.

( Perhaps I am being two much swayed by my prejudice that a database
is better than a spreadsheet for storing information.  But that is an
argument for another day and another forum. )

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Re: copying version from Help About

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On Wed, 2014-10-29 at 16:13 +, Caolán McNamara wrote:
 On Mon, 2014-10-27 at 10:33 -0400, Terrence Enger wrote:
  Hello, All,
  
  I am in the habit of copying version information for LibreOffice on
  Windows from the Help  About dialog.  Today with the build (beware:
  I am typing this rather than pasting it grin /):
  
  Build ID: c967872d...
  TinderBox: Win-x86@42, Branch:master, Time: 2014-10-13_00:02:37
  
  Ctrl+A in the dialog does not highlight the version information
  and Ctrl+C does not copy it.
  
  Is this a bug?  In LibreOffice rather than something on the
  tinderbox machine?  How can I tell?
 
 Is this still broken for you under windows. FWIW its working ok for me
 under Linux.

Both the version I complained about and today's version from the same
tinderbox let me select, copy, and paste the information.  Obviously,
I did something wrong, but I cannot guess what.  (The way that a
window can come to the top without capturing keystrokes is a familiar
annoyance; I cannot believe that I overlooked *that* possible
mistake.)

Sorry for the noise,
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copying version from Help About

[Terrence Enger]

Hello, All,

I am in the habit of copying version information for LibreOffice on
Windows from the Help  About dialog.  Today with the build (beware:
I am typing this rather than pasting it grin /):

Build ID: c967872d...
TinderBox: Win-x86@42, Branch:master, Time: 2014-10-13_00:02:37

Ctrl+A in the dialog does not highlight the version information
and Ctrl+C does not copy it.

Is this a bug?  In LibreOffice rather than something on the
tinderbox machine?  How can I tell?

Thanks,
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Reminder: Our next QA Meeting is on Wednesday!

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On Mon, 2014-10-20 at 19:40 +0200, Tommy wrote:
 On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:31:58 +0200, Robinson Tryon  
 bishop.robin...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
  3) Hear about our stats
 
  (spoiler: UNCONCONFIRMED bug count is down to 776)
 
 let's try to drop the 750 milestone till wednesday !!! :-)

I suggest tracking as well UNCONFIRMED plus NEEDINFO minus Need
developer advice.  The NEEDINFO bugs are not in our court, so to
speak, but they are among the bugs filed but not ready for
developer attention.  And the transition from NEEDINFO back to
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2014-10-16

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On Fri, 2014-10-17 at 12:12 +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:
Hi,
 
 Then again, as per:
 
  
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/HowToBibisect#Manual_setup_.28download_a_tarball.29
 
 there are currently _no_ reports of recent build being not universal.

I have created a debian-sid chroot environment to avoid complaints
about old libraries from the bibisect versions.  For example in
debian-wheezy (i.e., stable), 43all version latest complains:


/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/bibisect-43all_latest/opt/program/oosplash: 
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by 
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/bibisect-43all_latest/opt/program/oosplash)

/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/bibisect-43all_latest/opt/program/oosplash: 
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by 
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/bibisect-43all_latest/opt/program/../ure-link/lib/libuno_sal.so.3)

/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/bibisect-43all_latest/opt/program/oosplash: 
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by 
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/bibisect-43all_latest/opt/program/../ure-link/lib/libuno_sal.so.3)

and the daily dbgutil version 2014-10-17 complains:

terry@debian-wheezy:/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/lo-daily_20141017$ 
opt/program/soffice
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/lo-daily_20141017/opt/program/oosplash: 
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by 
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/lo-daily_20141017/opt/program/oosplash)
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/lo-daily_20141017/opt/program/oosplash: 
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by 
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/lo-daily_20141017/opt/program/../ure-link/lib/libuno_sal.so.3)

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2014-10-16

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On Fri, 2014-10-17 at 12:12 +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:
Hi,
 
 Then again, as per:
 
  
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/HowToBibisect#Manual_setup_.28download_a_tarball.29
 
 there are currently _no_ reports of recent build being not universal.

I have created a debian-sid chroot environment to avoid complaints
about old libraries from the bibisect versions.  For example in
debian-wheezy (i.e., stable), 43all version latest complains:


/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/bibisect-43all_latest/opt/program/oosplash: 
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by 
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/bibisect-43all_latest/opt/program/oosplash)

/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/bibisect-43all_latest/opt/program/oosplash: 
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by 
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/bibisect-43all_latest/opt/program/../ure-link/lib/libuno_sal.so.3)

/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/bibisect-43all_latest/opt/program/oosplash: 
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by 
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/bibisect-43all_latest/opt/program/../ure-link/lib/libuno_sal.so.3)

and the daily dbgutil version 2014-10-17 complains:

terry@debian-wheezy:/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/lo-daily_20141017$ 
opt/program/soffice
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/lo-daily_20141017/opt/program/oosplash: 
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by 
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/lo-daily_20141017/opt/program/oosplash)
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/lo-daily_20141017/opt/program/oosplash: 
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by 
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/lo-daily_20141017/opt/program/../ure-link/lib/libuno_sal.so.3)

Terry


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Re: allow ASSERT_ALWAYS_ABORT for debug builds on windows to be true or false

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On Tue, 2014-10-14 at 12:12 +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:
 Since you have the source hash in the build-info.txt file, it might be helpful
 to have some script tagging the commit accordingly so that 'git bisect log'
 shows the source hashes too.

That would be helpful.  However, I would ask for the date to show as
well: the ability to predict the next step will go forward/backward
and then to see that happen helps to build confidence.

I have added a paragraph to the wiki page [1,2] asking for source
hashes in the report of results.  Would it be worthwhile to provide a
table of source hashes by date linked from that wiki page?  Or will
existing versions in the repository be retagged with the additional
info?

Terry.


Links
-

[1] wiki...HowToBibisect, my change

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=QA%2FHowToBibisectdiff=102563oldid=102562

[2] wiki...HowToBibisect, current
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/HowToBibisect


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build failure in [build SAX]

[Terrence Enger]

Greetings,

I am trying to do a clean build of master commit c967872, fetched
around 2014-10-12 12:50 UTC and still current as I write this,
configured:

CXXFLAGS=-std=c++11 --enable-option-checking=fatal
--enable-dbgutil --enable-crashdump --without-system-postgresql
--without-myspell-dicts --with-extra-buildid --without-doxygen
--with-external-tar=/home/terry/lo_hacking/git/src
--disable-gstreamer --enable-gstreamer-0-10

on debian-wheezy 64-bit.  This is my first time using parameters
CXXFLAGS=-std=c++11 --disable-gstreamer --enable-gstreamer-0-10.


The build fails in the first [build SAX].  Trying again with `make
verbose=t` ends at the same step with messages:

[build SAX] CustomTarget/i18npool/localedata/localedata_en_AU.cxx
S=/home/terry/lo_hacking/git/libo4  I=$S/instdir  W=$S/workdir   
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${LD_LIBRARY_PATH:+$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:}$I/ure/lib:$I/program   
$W/LinkTarget/Executable/saxparser  en_AU 
$S/i18npool/source/localedata/data/en_AU.xml 
$W/CustomTarget/i18npool/localedata/localedata_en_AU.cxx.tmp 
-env:LO_LIB_DIR=file://$I/program 
-env:URE_MORE_SERVICES=file://$W/Rdb/saxparser.rdb   sed 
's/\(^.*get[^;]*$\)/SAL_DLLPUBLIC_EXPORT \1/' 
$W/CustomTarget/i18npool/localedata/localedata_en_AU.cxx.tmp  
$W/CustomTarget/i18npool/localedata/localedata_en_AU.cxx  rm 
$W/CustomTarget/i18npool/localedata/localedata_en_AU.cxx.tmp
ERROR: Cannot open uno ini 
file:///home/terry/lo_hacking/git/libo4/instdir/ure/lib/unorc

The file reported to be absent is indeed absent.


Advice welcome, both about how I might get on with the build and about
anything I should have done to help myself.


Thanks,
Terry.


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[solved] Re: build failure in [build SAX]

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Thanks to the good folks on IRC, my build is proceeding.


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[Libreoffice-qa] bugzilla search

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There I was, feeling so proud of myself for doing buzilla searches
*before* typing up a description and collecting screen images and so
forth.  But then the automatic search for duplicates when I entered my
summary tuned up fdo#84591 split menu closes style dropdown.


My bugzilla query 

Resolution: ---
Comment: style dropdown (contains all of the strings) 
Component: Writer
Product: LibreOffice

found 9 hits, the latest of them being fdo#80950.  Why did the query
miss fdo#84591, for which comment 1 says Styles dropdown disappears?

Thanks,
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] bugzilla search

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On Sun, 2014-10-05 at 18:25 +0200, Florian Reisinger wrote:
 Hi,
 
 The query might be case sensitive :)

At least one of the selectable criteria is explicit: contains 
the string (exact case).  So I assume that that criteria are 
case-insensitive if they do not say anything.

Meanwhile, I think Stuart has found it.

Thanks,
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Call of Tools - Options - LibreOfficeDev Base - Connections crashes master

[Terrence Enger]

On Fri, 2014-10-03 at 15:42 +0200, Thomas Hackert wrote:
 Hello @ll,
 while configuring my freshly downloaded and parallel installed 
 (following the instructions from 
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel) LO 
 master on Debian Testing i686, I discovered the following:
 
 1. Start LO
 2. Go to Tools – Options – LibreOfficeDev Base – Connections
 
 On my system, LO immediately crashes and spits out
 
 quote
 terminate called after throwing an instance of 
 'com::sun::star::loader::CannotActivateFactoryException'
 /quote
 
 , when I start it from command line ... :(

I see the same thing in debain-wheezy.  Backtrace at end of message.

For comparison, the daily dbgutil bibisect version 2014-10-03 does not
crash.

Terry.


backtrace from the SIGABRT:
--
#0  0xf7767425 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xf756c681 in raise () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
#2  0xf756fab2 in abort () from /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
#3  0xf748028d in __gnu_cxx::__verbose_terminate_handler() ()
from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
#4  0xf747def3 in ?? () from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
#5  0xf747df2f in std::terminate() ()
from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
#6  0xf747df43 in ?? () from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
#7  0xf747da3d in __cxa_call_unexpected ()
from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
#8  0xece1c066 in drivermanager::OSDBCDriverManager::createEnumeration()
()
from 
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/LibreOfficeDev_4.4.0.0.alpha0_Linux_x86_deb/DEBS/install/opt/libreofficedev4.4/program/../program/libsdbc2.so
#9  0xee33e437 in
offapp::ODriverEnumerationImpl::ODriverEnumerationImpl() ()
from 
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/LibreOfficeDev_4.4.0.0.alpha0_Linux_x86_deb/DEBS/install/opt/libreofficedev4.4/program/libcuilo.so
#10 0xee33e603 in offapp::ODriverEnumeration::ODriverEnumeration() ()
from 
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/LibreOfficeDev_4.4.0.0.alpha0_Linux_x86_deb/DEBS/install/opt/libreofficedev4.4/program/libcuilo.so
#11 0xee2f7a0c in offapp::ConnectionPoolConfig::GetOptions(SfxItemSet)
()
from 
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/LibreOfficeDev_4.4.0.0.alpha0_Linux_x86_deb/DEBS/install/opt/libreofficedev4.4/program/libcuilo.so
#12 0xee3441b6 in OfaTreeOptionsDialog::CreateItemSet(unsigned short) ()
from 
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/LibreOfficeDev_4.4.0.0.alpha0_Linux_x86_deb/DEBS/install/opt/libreofficedev4.4/program/libcuilo.so
#13 0xee344730 in OfaTreeOptionsDialog::SelectHdl_Impl() ()
from 
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/LibreOfficeDev_4.4.0.0.alpha0_Linux_x86_deb/DEBS/install/opt/libreofficedev4.4/program/libcuilo.so
#14 0xee344eaa in OfaTreeOptionsDialog::LinkStubShowPageHdl_Impl(void*,
void*) ()
from 
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/LibreOfficeDev_4.4.0.0.alpha0_Linux_x86_deb/DEBS/install/opt/libreofficedev4.4/program/libcuilo.so
#15 0xf697d5c9 in Link::Call(void*) const ()
from 
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/LibreOfficeDev_4.4.0.0.alpha0_Linux_x86_deb/DEBS/install/opt/libreofficedev4.4/program/libsvtlo.so
#16 0xf69bc83d in SvTreeListBox::SelectHdl() ()
from 
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/LibreOfficeDev_4.4.0.0.alpha0_Linux_x86_deb/DEBS/install/opt/libreofficedev4.4/program/libsvtlo.so
#17 0xf69bc7c8 in SvTreeListBox::Select(SvTreeListEntry*, bool) ()
from 
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/LibreOfficeDev_4.4.0.0.alpha0_Linux_x86_deb/DEBS/install/opt/libreofficedev4.4/program/libsvtlo.so
#18 0xf69b0c5a in SvImpLBox::SetCursor(SvTreeListEntry*, bool) ()
from 
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/LibreOfficeDev_4.4.0.0.alpha0_Linux_x86_deb/DEBS/install/opt/libreofficedev4.4/program/libsvtlo.so
#19 0xf69b105e in ImpLBSelEng::SetCursorAtPoint(Point const, bool) ()
from 
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/LibreOfficeDev_4.4.0.0.alpha0_Linux_x86_deb/DEBS/install/opt/libreofficedev4.4/program/libsvtlo.so
#20 0xf60ce293 in SelectionEngine::SelMouseButtonDown(MouseEvent const)
()
from 
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/LibreOfficeDev_4.4.0.0.alpha0_Linux_x86_deb/DEBS/install/opt/libreofficedev4.4/program/libvcllo.so
#21 0xf69b0f12 in SvImpLBox::MouseButtonDown(MouseEvent const) ()
from 
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/LibreOfficeDev_4.4.0.0.alpha0_Linux_x86_deb/DEBS/install/opt/libreofficedev4.4/program/libsvtlo.so
#22 0xf69bc427 in SvTreeListBox::MouseButtonDown(MouseEvent const) ()
from 
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/LibreOfficeDev_4.4.0.0.alpha0_Linux_x86_deb/DEBS/install/opt/libreofficedev4.4/program/libsvtlo.so
#23 0xf610053f in ImplHandleMouseEvent(vcl::Window*, unsigned short,
bool, long, long, unsigned long, unsigned short, unsigned short) ()
from 
/natty_big/downloads_libreoffice64/LibreOfficeDev_4.4.0.0.alpha0_Linux_x86_deb/DEBS/install/opt/libreofficedev4.4/program/libvcllo.so
#24 0xf6101cab in ImplHandleSalMouseButtonDown(vcl::Window*,
SalMouseEvent*) ()
from 

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Call of Tools - Options - LibreOfficeDev Base - Connections crashes master

[Terrence Enger]

On Fri, 2014-10-03 at 18:31 +0200, Thomas Hackert wrote:
Hello Terrence, *,
 On Fr, 3. Oktober 2014 18:19 Terrence Enger wrote:
  On Fri, 2014-10-03 at 15:42 +0200, Thomas Hackert wrote:
 [steps to crash LO] 
  quote
  terminate called after throwing an instance of
  'com::sun::star::loader::CannotActivateFactoryException'
  /quote
[snip]
 Thank you very much :) Would you be so kind to attach it to 
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84586, please? Lionel 
 has reported it as missing core05 .deb package in build which 
 seems to be the culprit ... :(

My backtrace is so similar to the one referenced in the bug
description that I think it does not contribute anything.

Terry.


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[Libreoffice-qa] [Fwd: lo-daily.git is moved]

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Hi, all.

Miklos sent these messages to the dev list.  I think the QA list may
be interested, too.

Terry.

 Forwarded Message 
From: Miklos Vajna vmik...@collabora.co.uk
 To: libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org
 Subject: lo-daily.git is moved
 Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 10:38:14 +0200
 
 Hi,
 
 If you previously used ssh://g...@bitbucket.org/vmiklos/lo-daily.git
 for libreoffice-4-3..master (Linux, dbgutil) bibisecting, then please
 update the URL in your .git/config, the new one is
 git://dev-downloads.libreoffice.org/lo-linux-dbgutil-daily.git.
 
 Today's daily build is available only at the new location.
 
 With this, I'm no longer abusing bitbucket with the multi-GB repos, they
 are not on TDF infra, and also you no longer need to register, there is
 plain git:// access.
 
 I've updated
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/HowToBibisect#Versions
 accordingly, ideally that was the only place that referenced the old
 URL.
 
 Regards,
 
 Miklos
 Forwarded Message 
From: Miklos Vajna vmik...@collabora.co.uk
 To: libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org
 Subject: Re: lo-daily.git is moved
 Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 10:50:38 +0200
 
 On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 10:38:14AM +0200, Miklos Vajna 
 vmik...@collabora.co.uk wrote:
  are not on TDF infra, and also you no longer need to register, there is
 
 not - now :)


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[Libreoffice-qa] request for more boilerplate responses to bug report

[Terrence Enger]

Hi, all.

I have noticed that Urmas has been abruptly closing bug reports that are
in languages other than English.  It would be more helpful if we had
pre-written responses in the other languages that we see.  To be most
useful, the responses would give the reporter links to resources
supporting her language.  So, these responses would not merely be
translations of each other.

I lack the knowledge to do this, so I am throwing the idea out here for
anybody with the knowledge and interest.

Right now, we are collecting boilerplate in
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugTriage/Pre-Written_Responses.

Recently, I have seen bug reports in
(*) Portugese (fdo#83629, fdo#83681)
(*) French, but my search skills seem to be weak
(*) Galician (fdo#83673 -- Well, that is what google translate detects)

Thank you, all, for your attention.
Terry.


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Re: user profile in testing

[Terrence Enger]

On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 15:58 +0200, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
 On 08/17/2014 06:54 PM, Terrence Enger wrote:
[ incorrect guess about what -evn:UserInstalltion does ]
 
 No; what happens exactly is:  Whenever at LO 4 start-up no LO 4 user 
 profile exists (e.g. because -env:UserInstallation points to a directory 
 that does not exist) and a LO 3 user profile exists at the canonic 
 location (i.e., not taking into account any -env:UserInstallation) and 
 the LO 3 user profile does not contain a MIGRATED4 marker file, then the 
 MIGRATED4 marker file is written into the LO 3 user profile and data 
 from the LO 3 user profile is migrated into the newly created LO 4 user 
 profile.

  Is it a reportable bug if LibreOffice crashes when using a user
  profile created by an earlier version?  ( I tend to the position that
  every crash is a bug, but I can well see that a lot of bugs
  RESOLVED WONTFIX could become annoying. )
 
 Such crashes should generally be considered bugs that should be fixed. 
 An exception is when the user profile data that causes the crash can 
 only have been produced by a non-official LO version (e.g. a nightly 
 snapshot).

Bah!  Humbug!  Despite my best efforts, I am unable to reproduce the
crash which provoked my interest.  It is time to invoke the First Rule
of Holes.

Thank you, Stephan, for your patience with a fat-fingered (and very
frustrated) klutz.

Terry.

 
 Stephan


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user profile in testing

[Terrence Enger]

It is possible to direct LibreOffice to a particular user profile
directory using the command line parameter
-env:UserInstallation=URL, and I have grown into the habit of using
a separate user profile for each bug report I look at.

I think that this parameter inhibits the usual conversion of user
profiles across versions of LibreOffice.  Is this right?  Is it a
reportable bug if LibreOffice crashes when using a user profile
created by an earlier version?  ( I tend to the position that every
crash is a bug, but I can well see that a lot of bugs RESOLVED
WONTFIX could become annoying. )

FWIW, this question arises from my attempt to reproduce fdo#82722
EDITING: By editing a macro in the IDE Libo crashes immediatly and
completely when macro opens.  Comment 1 suggests that using a new
user profile makes the crash disappear.  (I have made a SIGABRT
earlier than the reporter's crash, and I have made a SIGSEGV later,
but I have not made a crash where the reporter's crash happened.)

Thank you, all, for your attention and guidance.
Terry.


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