Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.2 RC2 test builds available
Pedro Lino píše v Čt 29. 03. 2012 v 19:06 +0100: > Hi all, > > Did anyone verify that the version info is updated (re the > secunia > reports problem) > > > I think Secunia has already fixed the numbering so that the warning it > gone for version 3.5.1. > > But the Version number in the file Properties for 3.5.2rc2 is now > 3.5.0.202 instead of 3.5.2.2 > > Unless there is an rc3 and this is fixed meanwhile LO is going to get > a bad image with Secunia (and all the security minded people :) ) Why could it cause bad image? IMHO, it was bug on the Secunia side and it is fixed now. We used this version scheme also for LO-3.4 and nobody complained. > Personally I couldn't care less about Secunia but since it only takes > a small number change, I think it would be worth the effort :) It looks trivial but it is not. We would need to do clean build for all systems, upload them to mirrors, restart smoketests, ... So, this change would delay the release by many days. Also, it is potentially dangerous. The version is defined and used on many locations. Any change could cause strange side effects. Also there are many scripts around that depends on a certain version scheme. So, we should not change this between rc2 and rc3 if there is not a big reason. Well, I agree that 3.5.0.202 is ugly. We are discussion to use the more reasonable version scheme 3.5.2.2 now, see http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2012-April/029263.html If it goes well, we might try it for 3.5.3 release. Best Regards, Petr ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.2 RC2 test builds available
Hi Tor, all Tor Lillqvist-2 wrote > > My *personal* fear is that if we start doing these kinds of > suggestions, we will get into nasty nationalistic arguments... > > "We here in Freedonia certainly don't need any Sylvanian dictionary; > we will never forget how they destroyed our Holy Bicycle of Yendor at > the Glorious Battle of Strawberry Fields in A.D. 567!" > Well, by installing all, not only you waste a "measly" 178Mb(!!!) on dictionaries only but you are already offending the Freedonians... Tor Lillqvist-2 wrote > > On the other hand, not suggesting any except that for the UI language > selected, also opens up a Pandora's Box, "Don't you idiots know that > Baklavian is also an official language here in Equatorial Kundu, all > EqK citizens are required by law to be able to write documents in > either languages, this is an insult to the Kundu People!" > :) Unless there are a set of rules (e.g. for Equatorial Kundu include Kundulese and Baklavian, etc) I think that if users see their own language selected they will be happy and since the installer options are saved, even if they have to select another language, it is a one time operation... Personally I think that less is more :) and saving 178Mb on dictionaries only is probably a good idea... Regards, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/ANN-LibreOffice-3-5-2-RC2-test-builds-available-tp3865776p3872362.html Sent from the Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.2 RC2 test builds available
Hi Michael, all Michael Meeks-2 wrote > >> Since each dictionary is an Extension and extensions are checked at load >> time, having dozens of un-needed dictionaries loaded not only makes first >> load take ages but surely increases memory usage ? (I haven't tested this >> but >> I can tell for sure that dev builds which only have three languages load >> significantly faster) > > It'd be interesting to compare like for like; in theory there is no > reason at all why having a lot of dictionaries installed -needs- to > cause grief, it'd be interesting to get some hard warm-start time / > memory numbers on that; if you can (?) > Actually you are right. It is not the dictionaries. I did a parallel install of LO 3.5.2.2 and run it 3 times with all dictionaries and 3 times only with the English dictionary. The load time was consistently 29 seconds (a little slow...) Now the interesting part is that I got a dev build from the same day (3.5.3.0 which I know it's not the same code but I believe that is not what is making the difference) and the load time was repeatedly 4 seconds!!! I will investigate some more as time allows ;) Regards, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/ANN-LibreOffice-3-5-2-RC2-test-builds-available-tp3865776p3872338.html Sent from the Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.2 RC2 test builds available
>> On a opposite trend it would be great if the installer ASKED which >> dictionaries should be installed (like Abiword' installer does), while >> suggesting the most obvious (based on locale) My *personal* fear is that if we start doing these kinds of suggestions, we will get into nasty nationalistic arguments... "We here in Freedonia certainly don't need any Sylvanian dictionary; we will never forget how they destroyed our Holy Bicycle of Yendor at the Glorious Battle of Strawberry Fields in A.D. 567!" On the other hand, not suggesting any except that for the UI language selected, also opens up a Pandora's Box, "Don't you idiots know that Baklavian is also an official language here in Equatorial Kundu, all EqK citizens are required by law to be able to write documents in either languages, this is an insult to the Kundu People!" Better to just include them all, always. And if they show up as "extensions" in the GUI, that is a bug that should be fixed. If they don't show up, less people will fear the Disk Space Eating Monster of Unused Stuff. I repeat, this is my personal opinion, it doesn't necessarily reflect that, if any, of my employer, wife, dog or other entity, living or undead. --tml ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.2 RC2 test builds available
Hi all, Did anyone verify that the version info is updated (re the secunia > reports problem) > > I think Secunia has already fixed the numbering so that the warning it gone for version 3.5.1. But the Version number in the file Properties for 3.5.2rc2 is now 3.5.0.202 instead of 3.5.2.2 Unless there is an rc3 and this is fixed meanwhile LO is going to get a bad image with Secunia (and all the security minded people :) ) Personally I couldn't care less about Secunia but since it only takes a small number change, I think it would be worth the effort :) Regards, Pedro ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.2 RC2 test builds available
Hi Pedro, On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 07:47 -0700, Pedro wrote: > On a opposite trend it would be great if the installer ASKED which > dictionaries should be installed (like Abiword' installer does), while > suggesting the most obvious (based on locale) Ho hum :-) > Since each dictionary is an Extension and extensions are checked at load > time, having dozens of un-needed dictionaries loaded not only makes first > load take ages but surely increases memory usage ? (I haven't tested this but > I can tell for sure that dev builds which only have three languages load > significantly faster) It'd be interesting to compare like for like; in theory there is no reason at all why having a lot of dictionaries installed -needs- to cause grief, it'd be interesting to get some hard warm-start time / memory numbers on that; if you can (?) ATB, Michael. -- michael.me...@suse.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.2 RC2 test builds available
Michael Meeks-2 wrote > > Personally, I think the ability to save 30k of stripped install size is > not really that valuable - so I'd want it to be bundled unconditionally > really if possible. > I agree that saving 30k in a 200Mb+ install is absurd. On a opposite trend it would be great if the installer ASKED which dictionaries should be installed (like Abiword' installer does), while suggesting the most obvious (based on locale) Since each dictionary is an Extension and extensions are checked at load time, having dozens of un-needed dictionaries loaded not only makes first load take ages but surely increases memory usage? (I haven't tested this but I can tell for sure that dev builds which only have three languages load significantly faster) Please consider this. Regards, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/ANN-LibreOffice-3-5-2-RC2-test-builds-available-tp3865776p3867899.html Sent from the Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.2 RC2 test builds available
Sorry, I am ashamed. It was my mistake. I think that the reason for failure the MS installer was to change the registration of components LibreOffice-3.5.2rc1. Parameter: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\The Document Foundation\LibreOffice\3.5\Capabilities\FileAssociations] "soffice.StarWriterGlobalDocument.6"="" I changed to: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\The Document Foundation\LibreOffice\3.5\Capabilities\FileAssociations] ".sxg"="soffice.StarWriterGlobalDocument.6" and added new parameters: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\The Document Foundation\LibreOffice\3.5\Capabilities\FileAssociations] ".vsd"="OpenOffice.org.Vsd" ".vst"="OpenOffice.org.Vst" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\OpenOffice.org.Vsd] @="Microsoft Visio 2003 Document" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\OpenOffice.org.Vsd\DefaultIcon] @="C:\\Program Files (x86)\\LibreOffice 3.5\\program\\soffice.bin,5" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\OpenOffice.org.Vsd\shell] @="open" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\OpenOffice.org.Vsd\shell\open] [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\OpenOffice.org.Vsd\shell\open\command] @="\"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\LibreOffice 3.5\\programsdraw.exe\" -o \"%1\"" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\OpenOffice.org.Vst] @="Microsoft Visio 2003 Template" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\OpenOffice.org.Vst\DefaultIcon] @="C:\\Program Files (x86)\\LibreOffice 3.5\\program\\soffice.bin,6" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\OpenOffice.org.Vst\shell] @="open" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\OpenOffice.org.Vst\shell\open] [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\OpenOffice.org.Vst\shell\open\command] @="\"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\LibreOffice 3.5\\programsdraw.exe\" -o \"%1\"" These parameters was saved and they creates an error when updating LibreOffice-3.5.2rc1 to "rc2". -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/ANN-LibreOffice-3-5-2-RC2-test-builds-available-tp3865776p3867736.html Sent from the Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.2 RC2 test builds available
Hi Christian Did anyone verify that the version info is updated (re the secunia > reports problem) > http://ask.libreoffice.org/question/1459/secunia-psi-reports-insecure > also on the mailinglists) > > i.e. version info of soffice.exe, not the one in the about dialog. > I didn't check that and now I can't have access to the installer at http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/win/x86/ it only shows the help packs. Was the installer removed? Regards, Pedro ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.2 RC2 test builds available
Hi *, On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Fridrich Strba wrote: > > for the upcoming new version 3.5.2, the RC2 builds now start to be > available on pre-releases. Did anyone verify that the version info is updated (re the secunia reports problem) http://ask.libreoffice.org/question/1459/secunia-psi-reports-insecure also on the mailinglists) i.e. version info of soffice.exe, not the one in the about dialog. ciao Christian ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.2 RC2 test builds available
It is installed with the version that you mention. Look for OpenDocument Text (Flat XML) format. The xslt filters are installed by default now. However, if you are upgrading your LibreOffice, the installer checks what options were chosen the previous time, so if you did not have your XSLT filters installed then, upgrade will not install them either. Cheers F. On 29/03/12 05:11, ape wrote: > *Attention! A blocking error Writer (LibreOffice 3.5.2.2; build_ID > 281b639-6baa1d3-ef66a77-d866f25-f36d45f; Windows_OS): > "File" menu, point "Save as": format FlatXML (*. fodt) is not in the list > of available formats.* > > -- > View this message in context: > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/ANN-LibreOffice-3-5-2-RC2-test-builds-available-tp3865776p3866620.html > Sent from the Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > LibreOffice mailing list > LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.2 RC2 test builds available
Le 29/03/12 07:28, Pedro a écrit : Hi, > > FlatXML is not installed by default, was it ever? On Mac, all of the filters are installed as default... Alex ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.2 RC2 test builds available
On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 10:32 +0300, Tor Lillqvist wrote: > The current name of the item doesn't really make much sense. If > "sample" means that the filters in question are intended to be > representative samples of source code for people writing new filters, > why does that have to show up in the installer UI ? Quite - this is a -tiny- piece of code that implements a really rather sexy feature IMHO; it should be in the default install and IIRC it is (but if you upgrade you don't get it enabled according to Fridrich). > If there is something wrong with them so that we don't want them to be > installed by default, why do we include them at all then? Personally, I think the ability to save 30k of stripped install size is not really that valuable - so I'd want it to be bundled unconditionally really if possible. Regards, Michael. -- michael.me...@suse.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.2 RC2 test builds available
Now I can DOCX files with formulas of Word-2003 and Word-2010 save as ODT files across FODT filter only. I used "Sample.." at all times. But I can not install it normal, when the "LibreOffice-3.5.2rc2_win-x86.msi" was used. The question "sample - simple" is not relevant when Flat XML filter is installed correctly across "Sample.." like in other versions LibO\LOdev. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/ANN-LibreOffice-3-5-2-RC2-test-builds-available-tp3865776p3867097.html Sent from the Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.2 RC2 test builds available
> This item is called "Sample Filters". It seems to me, the word "Sample" is > synonymous with the word "Example". Is the "Simple Filters" correct? The current name of the item doesn't really make much sense. If "sample" means that the filters in question are intended to be representative samples of source code for people writing new filters, why does that have to show up in the installer UI? Doesn't the installer have too much optionality anyway already, why can't we just install these filters always? If there is something wrong with them so that we don't want them to be installed by default, why do we include them at all then? --tml ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.2 RC2 test builds available
Filter "Flat XML" is set, if I choose "Sample Filters". But the item "Sample Filters" makes it so that MSI can not finish the job in my OS (Windows_7_HP_32-bit; Windows_XP_64-bit). This item is called "Sample Filters". It seems to me, the word "Sample" is synonymous with the word "Example". Is the "Simple Filters" correct? -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/ANN-LibreOffice-3-5-2-RC2-test-builds-available-tp3865776p3866954.html Sent from the Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.2 RC2 test builds available
ape wrote > > *Attention! A blocking error Writer (LibreOffice 3.5.2.2; build_ID > 281b639-6baa1d3-ef66a77-d866f25-f36d45f; Windows_OS): > "File" menu, point "Save as": format FlatXML (*. fodt) is not in the list > of available formats.* > This is not really a Development question. It would have been more appropriate in the Users or Discuss mailing list ;) FlatXML is not installed by default, was it ever? You can go to Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, select Libreoffice and then Change your install options, go to Optional Components and select Previous Filters (or similar wording). This will add FlatXML to the Save options. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/ANN-LibreOffice-3-5-2-RC2-test-builds-available-tp3865776p3866786.html Sent from the Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
Re: [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.2 RC2 test builds available
*Attention! A blocking error Writer (LibreOffice 3.5.2.2; build_ID 281b639-6baa1d3-ef66a77-d866f25-f36d45f; Windows_OS): "File" menu, point "Save as": format FlatXML (*. fodt) is not in the list of available formats.* -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/ANN-LibreOffice-3-5-2-RC2-test-builds-available-tp3865776p3866620.html Sent from the Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
[ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.2 RC2 test builds available
Hi *, for the upcoming new version 3.5.2, the RC2 builds now start to be available on pre-releases. This build is slated to be second release candidate build on the way towards 3.5.2, please refer to our release plan timings here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan#3.5_release Builds are now being uploaded to a public (but non-mirrored - so don't spread news too widely!) place, as soon as they're available. Grab them here: http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/ If you've a bit of time, please give them a try & report *critical* bugs not yet in bugzilla here, so we can incorporate them into the release notes. Please note that it takes approximately 24 hours to populate the mirrors, so that's about the time we have to collect feedback. The list of fixed bugs relative to 3.5.2 RC1 is here: http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/src/bugfixes-libreoffice-3-5-2-release-3.5.2.2.log So playing with the areas touched there also greatly appreciated - and validation that those bugs are really fixed. Thanks a lot for your help, Fridrich ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice
