Re: [GSoC 2012][Collaboration] brief status

2012-08-20 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Matúš,

On Tuesday, 2012-08-14 19:47:37 +0200, Matúš Kukan wrote:

 Well, one thing I don't like at all is that it does not work with
 .service and .client files installed but I have no idea why and how to
 debug it. So I am just ignoring the problem and not using the files.

That's odd. Did you contact Will / #telepathy about this?

  Eike

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Re: [GSoC 2012][Collaboration] brief status

2012-08-20 Thread Matúš Kukan
Hi Eike,

On 20 August 2012 22:24, Eike Rathke er...@redhat.com wrote:
 Hi Matúš,

 On Tuesday, 2012-08-14 19:47:37 +0200, Matúš Kukan wrote:

 Well, one thing I don't like at all is that it does not work with
 .service and .client files installed but I have no idea why and how to
 debug it. So I am just ignoring the problem and not using the files.

 That's odd. Did you contact Will / #telepathy about this?

No. It was weird, seemed to work and suddenly not again..
I gave up.
This is one thing I will probably look at once again to get annoyed.

Best,
Matus
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Re: [GSoC 2012][Collaboration] brief status

2012-08-14 Thread Matúš Kukan
On 13 August 2012 21:41, Jean-Tiare LE BIGOT ad...@jtlebi.fr wrote:
 In fact, it does not work as expected :-(. Because when the contact
 closes the document, he is still online, so we don't know about closed
 channel.


 My 2 cents: Could you use something like a keepalive signal ? A timeout
 could then be used to detect that other end has quit either by crashing,
 loosing network or just by closing the document.

Something like that should be internally in telepathy-glib.
I think the signal for closed channel is fine.

Thanks, I didn't know people read this :-)
Matus
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Re: [GSoC 2012][Collaboration] brief status

2012-08-14 Thread Matúš Kukan
On 13 August 2012 21:30, Matúš Kukan matus.ku...@gmail.com wrote:
 Now I use signal emitted when the channel is closed but then the info
 popup is displayed also when we close the document.

Ah, it was too late and I was stupid, it's fixed.
So when the contact leaves you get gtk dialog showed.
(I hope the gtk dependency is not a problem there; it's proly temporary)

I am going to look at unit test and maybe improve documentation, README, etc.

Well, one thing I don't like at all is that it does not work with
.service and .client files installed but I have no idea why and how to
debug it. So I am just ignoring the problem and not using the files.

Best,
Matus
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Re: [GSoC 2012][Collaboration] brief status

2012-08-13 Thread Matúš Kukan
Hi Eike,

On 8 August 2012 17:51, Eike Rathke er...@redhat.com wrote:
 And also when we are collaborating and either we or the other side
 gets offline, message is printed in the terminal and the mode is
 switched back to normal.

 Wow! That's great! How do you detect offline?

In fact, it does not work as expected :-(. Because when the contact
closes the document, he is still online, so we don't know about closed
channel.
Then I thought chat-state-changed [1] could work, but does not seem
to. (I've only now found it's deprecated, I will try the new version
also.)
Now I use signal emitted when the channel is closed but then the info
popup is displayed also when we close the document.

 Or maybe I could work on 'Live updated presence indicators in calc'

 This sounds feasible, and could be done in a Calc independent manner.

What do you mean by Calc independent manner ?
I think this was about displaying which cells are the other contact(s)
on, like in google docs.

Sorry, it took me so long to reply,
Thanks,
Matus
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Re: [GSoC 2012][Collaboration] brief status

2012-08-13 Thread Jean-Tiare LE BIGOT

Hello,


Wow! That's great! How do you detect offline?


In fact, it does not work as expected :-(. Because when the contact
closes the document, he is still online, so we don't know about 
closed

channel.


My 2 cents: Could you use something like a keepalive signal ? A 
timeout
could then be used to detect that other end has quit either by 
crashing,

loosing network or just by closing the document.

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Re: [GSoC 2012][Collaboration] brief status

2012-08-08 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Matúš,

On Tuesday, 2012-08-07 13:02:43 +0200, Matúš Kukan wrote:

 timeline-wise we are approaching the end but the code does not do that
 much still.
 Anyway, I've killed INTERCEPT=demo mode. Now you can click
 startDemoSession in contacts dialog if you want.
 It should even work better.

Matúš you're a hero :)  Now if I only had found time to build and try
that myself already..

 I am also doing re-factoring changes though I am not always 100% sure
 they are good.
 And also when we are collaborating and either we or the other side
 gets offline, message is printed in the terminal and the mode is
 switched back to normal.

Wow! That's great! How do you detect offline?

 I did not know what else to do, clearly UI is not my strong side.

Mine neither.. but I think a simple popup to notify the user in this
important situation is justified. Something like Contact Foo Bar lost,
you'll now be working locally on document XYZ.

Do we distinguish between 1-to-1 and MUC collaboration in the loosing
contact scenario?


 In the original proposal there was 'Context-sensitive Collaboration side-bar'.
 If I should work on that, it's now or never (during GSoC), maybe it's
 already too late.

Hum.. I don't remember what exactly we could had meant with that..
anyhow, sounds like more than 2 weeks work.

 Or maybe I could work on 'Live updated presence indicators in calc'
 Or probably you have better ideas.

This sounds feasible, and could be done in a Calc independent manner.

 I am still continuing with re-factoring changes and also I plan to
 touch the unit test once more.

Great.

Thanks
  Eike

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[GSoC 2012][Collaboration] brief status

2012-08-07 Thread Matúš Kukan
Hi all,

timeline-wise we are approaching the end but the code does not do that
much still.
Anyway, I've killed INTERCEPT=demo mode. Now you can click
startDemoSession in contacts dialog if you want.
It should even work better.
I am also doing re-factoring changes though I am not always 100% sure
they are good.
And also when we are collaborating and either we or the other side
gets offline, message is printed in the terminal and the mode is
switched back to normal.
I did not know what else to do, clearly UI is not my strong side.

In the original proposal there was 'Context-sensitive Collaboration side-bar'.
If I should work on that, it's now or never (during GSoC), maybe it's
already too late.
Or maybe I could work on 'Live updated presence indicators in calc'
Or probably you have better ideas.

I am still continuing with re-factoring changes and also I plan to
touch the unit test once more.

Thanks,
Matus
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