Re: [PUSHED 3.6] was vcl checkbox behaviourRe: vcl checkbox behaviour

2012-08-08 Thread Petr Mladek
Noel Power píše v Pá 06. 07. 2012 v 14:41 +0100:
> On 28/06/12 19:02, Jan Holesovsky wrote:
> I ask 
> for a review here.
> 
> the changes in question are :
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=a1345cd93a57ec7d9352f2c71ec2664332ce5e76
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=2bc2d09bba2e3f34e8ce13571de9ff7007e1c2b6

The change makes sense. The patches look reasonable. It works. I checked
few things in the UI and did not find any side effects. It seems that
you did lots checks to do not break things => pushed into 3-6 branch:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?h=libreoffice-3-6&id=99cad9fd7f413adecffc527d334eff616799cc4b
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?h=libreoffice-3-6&id=aea425a8cd851e6bee02247673c8996b58789484


Best Regards,
Petr

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Re: REVIEW[3.6] was vcl checkbox behaviourRe: vcl checkbox behaviour

2012-07-06 Thread Noel Power

On 28/06/12 19:02, Jan Holesovsky wrote:

Hi Noel,

Noel Power píše v Čt 28. 06. 2012 v 13:36 +0100:

Actually the "for quite a while" spans to 
8ab086b6cc054501bfbf7ef6fa509c393691e860, the inital import of 
button.cxx to CVS :-( - it has been imported in 2000 with this already 
in place. Looking deeper, I thought that the 'alignment of checkboxes 
without text' behavior might make sense for the dialogs like Tools -> 
Options -> Load/Save -> Microsoft Office and alike, where you'd want 
to center the checkbox; but it seems to me that it is actually 
SvLBoxButton that is used there, not CheckBox. So - can you in any way 
check if we are actually using this CheckBox feature anywhere in the 
UI? [Ie. if we construct a CheckBox without text, but with WB_CENTER 
or WB_RIGHT?] If we do not use it, I'd get rid of that [even in UNO 
controls and everywhere], as you proposed. Regards, Kendy 


I dug deeper, in the end I could only find CheckBoxControl 
http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/svtools/inc/svtools/editbrowsebox.hxx#291 
which has a member pBox which is a TriStateBox ( which inherits from 
CheckBox ) that has no label and is aligned with WB_CENTER, This class 
is used quite abit in dbaccess and also in one place in sw ( and indeed 
depends on the behaviour mentioned )


For the moment I changed both radiobutton and checkbox as described, I 
introduced a new virtual to allow a subclass to modify the behaviour ( I 
already did that in CheckBoxControl ) I did this for both radiobutton 
and checkbox even though I didn't see any instances of RadioButton that 
use this functionality.


I think the only was to see if I missed something is to commit the 
changes ( which I did to master ) However I think there is a better 
chance of 3.6 highlighting some missed usecase, with that in mind I ask 
for a review here. ( note I am away for the next two weeks so if someone 
would approve this I would ask they commit it too :-) )


the changes in question are :
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=a1345cd93a57ec7d9352f2c71ec2664332ce5e76
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=2bc2d09bba2e3f34e8ce13571de9ff7007e1c2b6

going forward I want to change both of these controls to accept some new 
parameter that would allow the position/alignment of the image within 
its bounding area  separate from WB_LEFT, WB_RIGHT & WB_CENTER which now 
only apply to the label ( if it exists )


Noel
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Re: vcl checkbox behaviour

2012-07-04 Thread Noel Power

On 29/06/12 10:09, Noel Power wrote:

On 28/06/12 19:02, Jan Holesovsky wrote:
[...]
Actually the "for quite a while" spans to 
8ab086b6cc054501bfbf7ef6fa509c393691e860, the inital import of 
button.cxx to CVS :-( - it has been imported in 2000 with this 
already in place. Looking deeper, I thought that the 'alignment of 
checkboxes without text' behavior might make sense for the dialogs 
like Tools -> Options -> Load/Save -> Microsoft Office and alike, 
where you'd want to center the checkbox;
sure and any such instances could be covered by setting the bounding 
box of the checkbox appropriately I guess
but it seems to me that it is actually SvLBoxButton that is used 
there, not CheckBox.
so no issue there ( but don't forget radio buttons afaict are also 
treated the same way and probably would make sense to change them also )
So - can you in any way check if we are actually using this CheckBox 
feature anywhere in the UI? [Ie. if we construct a CheckBox without 
text, but with WB_CENTER or WB_RIGHT?] If we do not use it, I'd get 
rid of that [even in UNO controls and everywhere], as you proposed. 
Regards, Kendy 
yes, I will try to check ( hopefully without missing anything ) :-) I 
would also like to make an enhancement to really control the alignment 
of the control itself e.g. either left or right. This would not affect 
the behaviour previously described ( which is more about the 
justification of the label ) but the position of the label relative to 
the control e.g.


- control aligned left:

[x] some label

- control aligned right:

some label [x]


So, I spent quite some time today trolling through the source code, I 
could only find one place where either RadioButton or CheckBox had 
either WB_LEFT, WB_RIGHT or WB_CENTER set for the control ( and where 
there was no label ) It actually isn't even a vcl CheckBox but a 
TriStateBox that has WB_CENTER applied and then only in the specific 
case of the CheckBoxControl 
http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/svtools/inc/svtools/editbrowsebox.hxx#291 
This class is used quite abit in dbaccess and also in one place in sw. 
So, I am going to take the plunge and remove this behaviour. Of course I 
am also going to try and modify CheckBoxControl to do the right thing 
without depending on this strange behaviour ( and cross fingers etc. 
that I didn't miss some usage of the weird 'feature' )


So.. basically last chance if you know of some reason why we really want 
to preserve the present behaviour.


Noel
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Re: vcl checkbox behaviour

2012-06-29 Thread Noel Power

On 28/06/12 19:02, Jan Holesovsky wrote:
[...]
Actually the "for quite a while" spans to 
8ab086b6cc054501bfbf7ef6fa509c393691e860, the inital import of 
button.cxx to CVS :-( - it has been imported in 2000 with this already 
in place. Looking deeper, I thought that the 'alignment of checkboxes 
without text' behavior might make sense for the dialogs like Tools -> 
Options -> Load/Save -> Microsoft Office and alike, where you'd want 
to center the checkbox;
sure and any such instances could be covered by setting the bounding box 
of the checkbox appropriately I guess
but it seems to me that it is actually SvLBoxButton that is used 
there, not CheckBox.
so no issue there ( but don't forget radio buttons afaict are also 
treated the same way and probably would make sense to change them also )
So - can you in any way check if we are actually using this CheckBox 
feature anywhere in the UI? [Ie. if we construct a CheckBox without 
text, but with WB_CENTER or WB_RIGHT?] If we do not use it, I'd get 
rid of that [even in UNO controls and everywhere], as you proposed. 
Regards, Kendy 
yes, I will try to check ( hopefully without missing anything ) :-) I 
would also like to make an enhancement to really control the alignment 
of the control itself e.g. either left or right. This would not affect 
the behaviour previously described ( which is more about the 
justification of the label ) but the position of the label relative to 
the control e.g.


- control aligned left:

[x] some label

- control aligned right:

some label [x]

again such an enhancement is driven by interoperability but... one step 
at a time :-)


Noel
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Re: vcl checkbox behaviour

2012-06-28 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Noel,

Noel Power píše v Čt 28. 06. 2012 v 13:36 +0100:

> >> I am somewhat stumbling over what would be best to do, change the
> >> underlying vcl class unconditionally ? ( that would imply the uno
> >> controls behaviour also changes unconditionally ) or ... if we change
> >> the underlying vcl class conditionally what about the uno controls?,
> >> should we change them also conditionally? or unconditionally? It would
> >> seem to me if there is some consensus that the 'normal' vcl behaviour is
> >> not that normal but is 'abnormal' then I would be inclined to change the
> >> vcl class unconditionally ( and similarly the behaviour of the dependant
> >> uno controls ) Any thoughts ?
> > So the behavior sound curious to me; but OTOH nearly sounds as if
> > somebody did that deliberately.  Do you have pointers to the code where
> > does the "apply the Align property on the control itself" live?  Any
> > history that would be of some worth around there?
> no like I mentioned earlier in the mail the behaviour is indeed 
> intentional see 
> http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/vcl/source/control/button.cxx#3209 
> However, I just don't understand why it, historically this behaviour 
> seems to be there for quite a while, the last change around there was
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=d727e1094312e34fedc2bfdb12b43c109a954054
>  
> which adds a new logic leg  for checkboxes with images ( which is a 
> strange concept for me too :-) )

Actually the "for quite a while" spans to
8ab086b6cc054501bfbf7ef6fa509c393691e860, the inital import of
button.cxx to CVS :-( - it has been imported in 2000 with this already
in place.

Looking deeper, I thought that the 'alignment of checkboxes without
text' behavior might make sense for the dialogs like Tools -> Options ->
Load/Save -> Microsoft Office and alike, where you'd want to center the
checkbox; but it seems to me that it is actually SvLBoxButton that is
used there, not CheckBox.

So - can you in any way check if we are actually using this CheckBox
feature anywhere in the UI?  [Ie. if we construct a CheckBox without
text, but with WB_CENTER or WB_RIGHT?]  If we do not use it, I'd get rid
of that [even in UNO controls and everywhere], as you proposed.

Regards,
Kendy

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Re: vcl checkbox behaviour

2012-06-28 Thread Noel Power

On 28/06/12 12:44, Jan Holesovsky wrote:

Hi Noel,

Noel Power píše v Po 25. 06. 2012 v 11:46 +0100:


I am somewhat stumbling over what would be best to do, change the
underlying vcl class unconditionally ? ( that would imply the uno
controls behaviour also changes unconditionally ) or ... if we change
the underlying vcl class conditionally what about the uno controls?,
should we change them also conditionally? or unconditionally? It would
seem to me if there is some consensus that the 'normal' vcl behaviour is
not that normal but is 'abnormal' then I would be inclined to change the
vcl class unconditionally ( and similarly the behaviour of the dependant
uno controls ) Any thoughts ?

So the behavior sound curious to me; but OTOH nearly sounds as if
somebody did that deliberately.  Do you have pointers to the code where
does the "apply the Align property on the control itself" live?  Any
history that would be of some worth around there?
no like I mentioned earlier in the mail the behaviour is indeed 
intentional see 
http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/vcl/source/control/button.cxx#3209 
However, I just don't understand why it, historically this behaviour 
seems to be there for quite a while, the last change around there was
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=d727e1094312e34fedc2bfdb12b43c109a954054 
which adds a new logic leg  for checkboxes with images ( which is a 
strange concept for me too :-) )

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Re: vcl checkbox behaviour

2012-06-28 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Noel,

Noel Power píše v Po 25. 06. 2012 v 11:46 +0100:

> I am somewhat stumbling over what would be best to do, change the 
> underlying vcl class unconditionally ? ( that would imply the uno 
> controls behaviour also changes unconditionally ) or ... if we change 
> the underlying vcl class conditionally what about the uno controls?, 
> should we change them also conditionally? or unconditionally? It would 
> seem to me if there is some consensus that the 'normal' vcl behaviour is 
> not that normal but is 'abnormal' then I would be inclined to change the 
> vcl class unconditionally ( and similarly the behaviour of the dependant 
> uno controls ) Any thoughts ?

So the behavior sound curious to me; but OTOH nearly sounds as if
somebody did that deliberately.  Do you have pointers to the code where
does the "apply the Align property on the control itself" live?  Any
history that would be of some worth around there?

Regards,
Kendy

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Re: vcl checkbox behaviour

2012-06-27 Thread Noel Power

On 25/06/12 11:46, Noel Power wrote:
I wonder is the behaviour that I see here normal or expected ( to me 
is isn't but I am not very ui-enabled ). Look at the attached jpeg, 
the first three checkboxes have the Align property set as Left, Center 
and Right, with no label the checkbox 'box' is aligned within the 
bounding rectangle of the control according to the 'Align' property. 
However, if there is a label then the checkbox 'box' is always left 
aligned and it is the text label that is aligned according to the 
'Align' property. Now to my puny brain the latter behaviour ( as if 
there is a label present ) is what I would expect always. I would like 
to change the behaviour to be like that, but... the code is obviously 
and intentionally written to behave in the way described, does this 
make sense? would it be ok to change this? is it only me that things 
this is bizarre?
For context this behaviour is causing me some grief when importing 
controls from mso formats, I could of course add some flag to the vcl 
Checkbox[*] class to make it behave like I wish conditionally, note: 
that also could require the toolbox awt ( and formcontrol ) uno 
checkbox control to support an extra flag also that could be persisted 
or their behaviour could independently be changed unconditionally ( 
and no need to support extra properties ).
I am somewhat stumbling over what would be best to do, change the 
underlying vcl class unconditionally ? ( that would imply the uno 
controls behaviour also changes unconditionally ) or ... if we change 
the underlying vcl class conditionally what about the uno controls?, 
should we change them also conditionally? or unconditionally? It would 
seem to me if there is some consensus that the 'normal' vcl behaviour 
is not that normal but is 'abnormal' then I would be inclined to 
change the vcl class unconditionally ( and similarly the behaviour of 
the dependant uno controls ) Any thoughts ?



Noel


[*] same issue exists for (at least) for radio buttons


no thoughts anyone ?
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