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I didn't test but in general: WFM is when there was a bug and NAB is when
explained it's not. If Help is not good enough, the new duplicate can be used
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--- Comment #55 from Regina Henschel  ---
The help has been changed in the meantime, tested with LO 5.4.
In /text/swriter/01/04090004.xhp, title DocInformation
"With an Offset value of 1, the field will display a number that is 1 more than
the current page number, but only if a page with that number exists. On the
last page of the document, this same field will be empty."
/text/swriter/01/0214.xhp, title Edit Fields 
"If you want to change the actual page number and not the displayed number, do
not use the Offset value. To change page numbers, read the Page Numbers guide."
In /text/swriter/01/04090001.xhp, title Document
"If you want to change the actual page number and not the displayed number, do
not use the Offset value. To change page numbers, read the Page Numbers guide."

If you find a place, where the help can be improved in regard to using Offset
for page numbers, please write a new bug report.

The behavior is as specified, the help is correct now. Nothing to do.

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--- Comment #52 from Jason C. McDonald  ---
(In reply to Xisco Faulí from comment #51)
> (In reply to Jason C. McDonald from comment #47)
> > More like "specified bug" - for anyone reading this, I did fix this, but the
> > change was rejected because the behavior is specified. Someone (anyone?) is
> > going to have to find out how to contact the board that wrote the spec and
> > ask them to reconsider - no one has yet been able to demonstrate a use case
> > for this behavior.
> 
> That's not completely true. The patch was abandoned due to a lack of work.
> Please see last comment in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/25529/. You
> can reopen it at any time, and bear in mind comment 39 and comment 41

I'm afraid you misunderstood both comments. This isn't "lack of work" - comment
39 outlined the necessary discussion involved in revising the spec (which I
already stated was the blocking factor), and comment 41 was suggesting an
*alternative* change. As far as fixing *this* behavior, my fix was indeed
complete. The adjusted behavior was rejected because the original offset
behavior as described in the bug report was in the spec.

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--- Comment #51 from Xisco Faulí  ---
(In reply to Jason C. McDonald from comment #47)
> More like "specified bug" - for anyone reading this, I did fix this, but the
> change was rejected because the behavior is specified. Someone (anyone?) is
> going to have to find out how to contact the board that wrote the spec and
> ask them to reconsider - no one has yet been able to demonstrate a use case
> for this behavior.

That's not completely true. The patch was abandoned due to a lack of work.
Please see last comment in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/25529/. You can
reopen it at any time, and bear in mind comment 39 and comment 41

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--- Comment #50 from Mark Hedges  ---
(In reply to Jason C. McDonald from comment #49)
> > How does one contact the board?  Or the engineering steering committee?
> 
> I wish I knew...

One looks up their e-mails individually.  Which I did.  Not that I need this
actively anymore... that ship has sailed.  Happy to help.  -Mark

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--- Comment #49 from Jason C. McDonald  ---
(In reply to Mark Hedges from comment #48)
> I demonstrated a very useful use case for fixing it.

Oh, yes, I didn't mean that there wasn't one for the desired behavior. I mean,
there isn't a use case for the CURRENT behavior.

> How does one contact the board?  Or the engineering steering committee?

I wish I knew...

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--- Comment #48 from Mark Hedges  ---
(In reply to Jason C. McDonald from comment #47)
> More like "specified bug" - for anyone reading this, I did fix this, but the
> change was rejected because the behavior is specified. Someone (anyone?) is
> going to have to find out how to contact the board that wrote the spec and
> ask them to reconsider - no one has yet been able to demonstrate a use case
> for this behavior.

I demonstrated a very useful use case for fixing it.  The example is to create
additional pages to be stapled onto the end of a government form.  Say the form
has pages 1 to 4, but it says "insert additional pages if needed."  The
subsequent pages should be numbered from an offset of 4, starting at 5.

Currently, the only way to achieve this, is to create a document with 4 blank
pages at the beginning, and only print from page 5 onward.

This is what the whole notion of page number offset is for.

You're right, no one has demonstrated a use case for the current specified
behavior, because it does not make sense.

How does one contact the board?  Or the engineering steering committee?

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--- Comment #47 from Jason C. McDonald  ---
More like "specified bug" - for anyone reading this, I did fix this, but the
change was rejected because the behavior is specified. Someone (anyone?) is
going to have to find out how to contact the board that wrote the spec and ask
them to reconsider - no one has yet been able to demonstrate a use case for
this behavior.

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--- Comment #34 from Jason C. McDonald  ---
After isolating the problem in the code, I'm going to attempt to fix this. I'll
place it up for grabs again in the off-chance that I fail.

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--- Comment #33 from Jason C. McDonald  ---
I can confirm this bug on LibreOffice 5.1.3.2. This may be "intended behavior",
although a slight change to the feature would make it much more usable. As it
stands, I think we can consider it a "misfeature".

CURRENT BEHAVIOR: After applying offset, any page that would have an offset
number > actual number of pages has an empty field.

EXPECTED BEHAVIOR: When most people apply an offset, they expect for the
counting to begin at the specified number and continue *ad infinitum*. Thus, on
a three-page document, with a page number autofield in the footer with an
offset of 20 would number the pages "20, 21, 22".

USE CASE: As an author, I frequently need to isolate a portion of a document
for others to review, but want to maintain the page numbers so I know where in
the larger document the change should be made. 

This is trivial on Microsoft Word, but decided non-trivial on LibreOffice.
Fixing this mis-feature would make the process considerably more obvious and
easier to use.

FIX: Don't stop incrementing on offset page numbers for anything.

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--- Comment #31 from Jens Mildner j...@mildner-web.de ---
Today, I've been bitten by this bug on a machine with OOo 3.3 installed, so
changing earliest version to Inherited from OOo.

I think that this bug should be fixed despite the workaround given in the
previous comment, because it may not be uncommon to split up larger documents
in smaller ones for easier editing, thus needing positive offsets for the page
numbers when the whole document shall be printed.

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--- Comment #30 from G.Ostner (LOBugs) lob...@austrofiction.at ---
(In reply to Matthew Francis from comment #29)
 ... behaviour required by the OpenDocument specification 
 (even though it still seems wrong)
 quote
 19.845.2 text:page-number
 The text:page-adjust attribute specifies an adjustment of the value of a
 page number field, in order to display of page numbers of following or
 preceding pages. The specified value is added to the current page number. If
 a page with the resulting page number does not exist, no number is displayed.
 /quote

Actually, I filed the same bug years ago against OOo 1.0 or 1.1 under another
name and was told by the developers then that this was a WONTFIX bug.

If it IS as per specification - and the specification seems very wrong if it is
- wouldn't it make sense to remove the feature altogether instead of
frustrating users who can't make it work?

There is a nice workaround:
1. go to Insert menu
2. Pick manual break
3. Choose page break
4. Choose a page template
5. Choose a page number and check Change page number

With this workaround, the feature (that doesn't work anyway, or only works for
frankly unsatisfactory values of work), the feature won't be missed.

If the workaround is well enough documented and indexed in the online help, it
can also be easily found.

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--- Comment #29 from Matthew Francis fdb...@neosheffield.co.uk ---
There is an interesting point about the behaviour required by the OpenDocument
specification in bug 67083 comment 12 (even though it still seems wrong)

To quote:


quote
19.845.2 text:page-number
The text:page-adjust attribute specifies an adjustment of the value of a page
number field, in order to display of page numbers of following or preceding
pages. The specified value is added to the current page number. If a page with
the resulting page number does not exist, no number is displayed.
/quote

http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-v1.2-os-part1.html#__RefHeading__1419094_253892949

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--- Comment #25 from Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com ---
Please don't change the importance/priority. Thanks

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--- Comment #24 from Owyn abel...@ya.ru ---
Confirming the bug in LibO 4.0.3.3. Actually, I was planning to open a bug
report about it but then I found this one.

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