[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68771] Crash on launch on OS X

2013-08-31 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68771

tommy27  changed:

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Summary|Other: Crash on launch  |Crash on launch on OS X

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68771] Crash on launch on OS X

2013-08-31 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Steve Piercy  changed:

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Version|4.1.0.4 release |4.1.1.2 rc

--- Comment #4 from Steve Piercy  ---
I never downloaded nor installed 4.1.0.4.  My original bug report was not
correct.  If there is another bug report citing that 4.1.0.4 crashes on launch
on Mac OS X, then that should be referenced in this report.

The crash on launch occurs with 4.1.1.2 rc.  Re-reverting to correct version in
the bug tracker.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68771] Crash on launch on OS X

2013-09-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from James  ---
Steve, any chance you can update your OS?

Using OS X 10.8.4 I can not reproduce this problem. So might be related to OS X
(which is a very old OS btw).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68771] Crash on launch on OS X

2013-09-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from Steve Piercy  ---
(In reply to comment #5)
> Steve, any chance you can update your OS?

Nope.  I still need to use creaky, rusty, old 10.5.8 for certain apps.  I have
LO 4.0.5.2 installed and working on that Mac.

> Using OS X 10.8.4 I can not reproduce this problem. So might be related to
> OS X (which is a very old OS btw).

On my other Mac, which uses 10.8.4, LO 4.1.1.2 rc works just fine.

Maybe the "bug" is in the documentation and system requirements.

http://www.libreoffice.org/download/system-requirements/

Macintosh

The software and hardware prerequisites for installing on a Macintosh computer
are as follows:

MacOSX 10.4 (Tiger) or higher;

I was surprised to see Tiger listed.

If it is decided that LO 4.1.x will no longer support 10.5.x and earlier, then
the sysreqs should indicate that decision.

If support shall be continued, then I can provide further information,
including crash logs.  Here's what I got when I last tried to launch LO 4.1 on
Mac 10.5.8:

8/30/13 2:18:34 PM [0x0-0x161c61b].org.libreoffice.script[91479] dyld: unknown
required load command 0x8022 
8/30/13 2:18:34 PM com.apple.launchd[1292]
([0x0-0x161c61b].org.libreoffice.script[91479]) Exited abnormally: Trace/BPT
trap

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68771] Crash on launch on OS X

2013-09-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68771

Julien Nabet  changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO
 CC||serval2...@yahoo.fr
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #7 from Julien Nabet  ---
Steve: do you have a Powerpc or Intel?
Could you copy paste the crash logs in a file and attach it by using this link?
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?bugid=68771&action=enter

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68771] Crash on launch on OS X

2013-09-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68771

--- Comment #8 from Steve Piercy  ---
(In reply to comment #7)
> Steve: do you have a Powerpc or Intel?

  Processor Name:Intel Core 2 Duo
  Processor Speed:2.4 GHz
  Number Of Processors:1
  Total Number Of Cores:2

> Could you copy paste the crash logs in a file and attach it by using this
> link? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?bugid=68771&action=enter

Gladly, if you can tell me where LO dumps its crash log on a Mac.  I didn't
find anything obviously LO-ish in the usual spaces that are monitored by
Console, except for those two lines I pasted earlier.

--steve

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68771] Crash on launch on OS X

2013-09-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68771

--- Comment #9 from Julien Nabet  ---
Steve: see
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugReport/Debug_Information#Mac_OSX:_How_to_get_debug_information

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68771] Crash on launch on OS X

2013-09-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Julien Nabet  changed:

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 CC||b...@eikota.de,
   ||ipla...@yahoo.co.uk

--- Comment #10 from Julien Nabet  ---
Here's the Roman's questionnaire too:
"
Here is my complete standard “questionnaire” for such issues:
---

1) Do you have any accesibility features enabled? Apple’s accessibility
features like “VoiceOver” or “Enable access for assistive devices”, which get
enabled in “System Preferences > Universal Access”, are known to cause many
crashes and freezes in LibreOffice. So please try to disable any accesibility
features, then check if the problem is still reproducible.

2) Do you have installed any window management/user interface
utilities/apps/control panels/extensions for Mac OS X like 
   * AquaSnap* BetterSnapTool
   * BetterTouchTool * Breeze
   * Cinch   * Divvy
   * DoublePane  * Flexiglass
   * HyperDock   * iSnap
   * Moom* RightZoom
   * ShiftIt * SizeUp
   * SizeWell* Spectacle
   * Stay* TileWindows
   * WindowTidy  * Flavours (from flavours.interacto.net)
... or something similar?

And/or do you use any mouse cursor/pointer utility, i.e. some little
application or control panel etc. which animates or replaces etc. the mouse
curser/pointer, like
   * LazyMouse?

And/or do you use any special software which could be related to accessibility
stuff, e.g. a screen reader, screen magnifier, speech recognition software,
a text-to-speech (dictation) application, or similar?

All these and many similar utilities rely heavily on Mac OS accessibility
features and therefore can cause LibreOffice to crash or freeze. So please
check if you have installed any utility of this kind and try to disable it
(or to add LibreOffice to the list of excluded applications for the utility,
if there is such a thing).

So please check these possibilities, if any of them helps to make the crash go
away, and report the results here.
"

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68771] Crash on launch on OS X

2013-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68771

--- Comment #11 from Steve Piercy  ---
Created attachment 85045
  --> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=85045&action=edit
LO 4.1.1.2 rc crash log on Mac OS X 10.5.8

Crash log attached, with system config.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68771] Crash on launch on OS X

2013-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68771

--- Comment #12 from Steve Piercy  ---
(In reply to comment #10)
> 1) Do you have any accesibility features enabled? Apple’s accessibility
> features like “VoiceOver” or “Enable access for assistive devices”, which get
> enabled in “System Preferences > Universal Access”, are known to cause many
> crashes and freezes in LibreOffice. So please try to disable any
> accesibility features, then check if the problem is still reproducible.

None were enabled, unless "Enable access for assistive devices" counts.

> 2) Do you have installed any window management/user interface
> utilities/apps/control panels/extensions for Mac OS X like 
>* AquaSnap* BetterSnapTool
>* BetterTouchTool * Breeze
>* Cinch   * Divvy
>* DoublePane  * Flexiglass
>* HyperDock   * iSnap
>* Moom* RightZoom
>* ShiftIt * SizeUp
>* SizeWell* Spectacle
>* Stay* TileWindows
>* WindowTidy  * Flavours (from flavours.interacto.net)
> ... or something similar?

RightZoom.

> And/or do you use any mouse cursor/pointer utility, i.e. some little
> application or control panel etc. which animates or replaces etc. the mouse
> curser/pointer, like
>* LazyMouse?

Kensington Mouseworks, but it does not modify the cursor/pointer, only enables
features of a track ball mouse.

> And/or do you use any special software which could be related to
> accessibility stuff, e.g. a screen reader, screen magnifier, speech
> recognition software,
> a text-to-speech (dictation) application, or similar?

Nope.

> All these and many similar utilities rely heavily on Mac OS accessibility
> features and therefore can cause LibreOffice to crash or freeze. So please
> check if you have installed any utility of this kind and try to disable it
> (or to add LibreOffice to the list of excluded applications for the utility,
> if there is such a thing).
> 
> So please check these possibilities, if any of them helps to make the crash
> go away, and report the results here.

I disabled "Enable access for assistive devices" in Universal Access and
RightZoom.  I could not find an easy way to disable MouseWorks.

I attempted to relaunch.

LO 4.1.1.2 rc still crashes.

--steve

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68771] Crash on launch on OS X

2013-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68771

--- Comment #13 from Alex Thurgood  ---
Sounds like the deployment target version wasn't set for 10.5 when LO was
built, so used libraries that are not available on 10.5.


http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16614636/dyld-unknown-required-load-command-0x8022-error-with-git-installation


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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68771] Crash on launch on OS X

2013-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68771

--- Comment #14 from Alex Thurgood  ---
Which machine is responsible for the release build of LO 4.1 that is available
from the download page ?

Alex

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68771] Crash on launch on OS X

2013-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #15 from Alex Thurgood  ---
Also note that I think that our baseline SDK has become 10.6, so there may be
versions of libraries used which are not compatible with 10.5 ?


Alex

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68771] Crash on launch on OS X

2013-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #16 from Alex Thurgood  ---
Also see :

http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/running-an-intel-compiled-binary-on-older-mac-os-x-system-gives-dyld-unknown-required-load


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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68771] Crash on launch on OS X

2013-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Alex Thurgood  changed:

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 CC||tbehr...@suse.com

--- Comment #17 from Alex Thurgood  ---
Adding Thorsten to CC, as I believe he's the one who manages the OSX release ?

Alex

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68771] Crash on launch on OS X

2013-09-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68771

--- Comment #18 from dan  ---

> http://www.libreoffice.org/download/system-requirements/
> Macintosh ...
> MacOSX 10.4 (Tiger) or higher;

OSX Intel - 10.4.11 (Tiger) with LibreOffice-4.1.1

computer:/Applications/LibreOffice.app/Contents/program$ ./soffice 
dyld: unknown required load command 0x8022
Trace/BPT trap

Works with LibreOffice 4.0.5 - probably time to update the system-requirements
documentation (and for me to update my mother's computer :-) )

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68771] Crash on launch on OS X

2013-09-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #19 from 894y...@dispostable.com ---
Created attachment 85727
  --> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=85727&action=edit
LO 4.1.1 crash log on Mac OS X 10.5.8

I may have the same problem.

I'm running Mac OS X 10.5.8 (Intel). I downloaded and installed LO shortly
after its release: "Mac OS X (Intel), version 4.1.1, English (US)". When I
started the application, it crashed.

So I downloaded and installed 4.0.5, and had no problem using that.


I now have removed LO from the Applications and have both versions installed on
my desktop (renamed to reflect version). I can still use 4.0.5, and 4.1.1
crashes.


Romans questionnaire:
1) Do you have any accesibility features enabled?
No

2) Do you have installed any window management/user interface
utilities/apps/control panels/extensions?
No

3) And/or do you use any mouse cursor/pointer utility?
Yes, I have Logitech Control Center to speed up my mouse.


I've attached my crash log, which looks similar to Steve Piercy' crash log and
seems to confirm the post from Dan.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68771] Crash on launch on OS X

2013-09-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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tommy27  changed:

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 Status|NEEDINFO|NEW
   Keywords||regression
 Blocks|60270   |

--- Comment #21 from tommy27  ---
issue confirmed by another user. set status to NEW.
added regression keyword. added to mab4.1 list.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68771] Crash on launch on OS X

2013-09-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68771] Crash on launch on OS X

2013-09-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #20 from 894y...@dispostable.com ---
(In reply to comment #19)
> I've attached my crash log, which looks similar to Steve Piercy' crash log
> and seems to confirm the post from Dan.
I meant Alex, not Dan,

http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/running-an-intel-compiled-binary-on-older-mac-os-x-system-gives-dyld-unknown-required-load

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68771] Crash on launch on OS X

2013-09-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Michael Meeks  changed:

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   ||, nthieb...@gmail.com

--- Comment #22 from Michael Meeks  ---
Norbert / Christian - who did these builds ? I assume we pulled up our baseline
for the toolchain, did we do the same for the OS somehow in error ? cf the very
useful Intel link above:

"Root Cause :
Generally, if you are targeting your applicaiton to run on multiple versions of
Mac OS X, you should use the 'least common denominator' approach of developing
on the older OS version.  This is because newer version may have extended the
base OS API but generally newer versions will maintain backwards
compatibility."

With apologies - we recently moved to new compile machines in several places
with a couple of unpleasant platform side-effects (like this).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68771] Crash on launch on OS X

2013-09-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Norbert Thiebaud  changed:

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 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |NOTABUG

--- Comment #23 from Norbert Thiebaud  ---
Please refer to the release note:

4.1+ require 10.6 or higher.

4.0+ is the last version that support 10.4/10.5 and PPC

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68771] Crash on launch on OS X

2013-09-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68771] Crash on launch on OS X

2013-09-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #24 from 894y...@dispostable.com ---
(In reply to comment #22)
> With apologies - we recently moved to new compile machines in several places
> with a couple of unpleasant platform side-effects (like this).

(In reply to comment #23)
> Please refer to the release note:
> 
> 4.1+ require 10.6 or higher.
> 
> 4.0+ is the last version that support 10.4/10.5 and PPC

Just so I understand, because the new compile machine is incompatible with the
old compile machine (and said resolution is apparently not an option), the
'fix' will be updating the system requirements page?

Personally, I find the Status 'resolved'/'not-a-bug' a bit strange. IMHO when
'Joe Regular'-user launches an application and it crashes it's a bug.
Other applications no longer supporting 10.5 redirect me to an older release
still supporting 10.5. Even when manually overriding the download to a newer
version, the OS prevents me from launching it. I don't know how that works
though.

I'm a bit disappointed in the chosen path.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68771] Crash on launch on OS X

2013-09-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #25 from Norbert Thiebaud  ---
It is not about machine...
The machine that do the 4.1 release is the same that do the 4.0 release...

It is a question fo SDK support and requirement...
Requiring 10.4/10.5, which are not supported by Apple, is a pain and is
blocking development.
We decided that 4.0 will be the last version that we support, that support
10.4/10.5... and for 4.1+ we bump the SDK requirement to 10.6.

So no, this is not a hardware consideration (although it would become one
rapidly, since finding Mac that can do 10.4 build is getting quite
problematic... The release box is 5 years old already.. and will die someday)

But a practical design choice... We dropped support for Windows 2000, Win95 and
OS/2 too mind you... we just can't afford to support platform for-ever...

Some volunteer recently worked on back-porting 4.1 to 10.5 PPC... that is most
welcome, and patch in that direction will be regarded favorably... if there is
a community that want to take on the burden, more power to it... We just will
not continue to provide binary for it as part of our normal release, nor
continue to impose restriction on our devs wrt to compatibility with 10.4/10.5
iow if someone were to pick up the challenge, that someone would need to expect
breakage, as master will not try to use API that are backward compat up to 10.4
anymore

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68771] Crash on launch on OS X

2013-09-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #26 from Michael Meeks  ---
The outcome of crashing is a bit unexpected :-) is there any flag we can set in
some Mac app description that gives a minimum OS version - to get a friendly OS
provided error ? and/or could we have a shell-script in our wrapper (if we have
one on Mac) that checks the OS version & warns in a friendly way for older OS/X
?

Surely other people have this problem; a quick google showed:

https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/general/Reference/InfoPlistKeyReference/Articles/LaunchServicesKeys.html

and: LSMinimumSystemVersion

but perhaps we have to be running to set that ?

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