Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Test file for Conditional Formatting.

2012-09-11 Thread Yi Fan Jiang
Hi Miguel,

Thanks a lot for your nice work. I have got a review and push it to:

http://vm12.documentfoundation.org/manage/case/122/

Please take a review and make sure I didn't misunderstand anything. Actually
it took me some time to play and understand :)

As you may notice the instructions and expected results have been modified in
Moztrap. The basic thing I did is to extract those *background* and
*reasoning* sentences, which are actually *great* for people who wants to
thoroughly understand it, out of the instructions.

The reason is we are better off trying to instruct people, even those without
conditional formatting knowledge, to run the test case STEP by STEP. So more
intuitive and relatively direct test case could be more effective for QA to
run.

The way I prefer is to instruct people 'click' things, then observe the
correct behavior as high level as possible, which in this case changing cell
background color is pretty specific. And that's all.

Only when a people found something wrong or curious enough, she is free to
find the logic behind from your lovely detailed descriptions. :)

Please tell me how do you think about them. 

Thanks for your great work! The case is really wonderful!

> I have try to register in Moztrap, but by now I have not received the
> confirmation email.

Sigh, it looks the postfix failed to verify a self signed certificate
there...I'll take a look and don't bother with the mail, I've activate your
account and you are free to edit cases yourself :)

> And as the Moztrap is in first steps, maybe better not too much hands on it.
> So please put the test in Moztrap if it is right.

As it is in the first step, there may be some improvements needed. But it is
nevertheless a nice central place we put our test cases effort together, the
data would not lose any way. And again because it is in the first step, 
wonderful
new test cases like you already did makes it grown:)

> Is there some guide on how to structure the name of the test files?
> I think could be useful in the future.

Currently I wasn't aware any particular reason to restrict the name space of a
attached file since every case is bound to a test case in Moztrap, so we never
lose the background. Maybe in the future I should make Moztrap to attach a
"case id" to the attachments like Bugzilla did.

@Petr, all - do you have any experience thoughts on that?

Best wishes,
Yifan

>>> mariosv  09/12/12 9:05 AM >>>
Hi Yifan,

I have revised the test, among other issues I have added an Instructions
sheet. Licensed under MPL/LGPLv3 +

Please if someone can review the text, thanks in advance.

I have try to register in Moztrap, but by now I have not received the
confirmation email.

And as the Moztrap is in first steps, maybe better not too much hands on it.
So please put the test in Moztrap if it is right.

Is there some guide on how to structure the name of the test files?
I think could be useful in the future.

Regards,
Miguel Ángel.

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4006903/LibreO_qaTest_ConditionalFormatting_3-5-5-3_en.ods
LibreO_qaTest_ConditionalFormatting_3-5-5-3_en.ods 



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[Libreoffice-qa] Reporting Ignorant User on FDO?

2012-09-11 Thread Joel Madero
Is there a way to report users on FDO. This is in regards to the comment 
made here by user "Urmas"


https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40025


"Now stop fucking with bugzilla and other people's bugs."

I tend to not care much but this particular user pissed me off and 
well.I'll hold a grudge. Let me know if

there is a procedure and I'll deal with it.

Best Regards to everyone,

Joel


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Test file for Conditional Formatting.

2012-09-11 Thread mariosv
Hi Yifan,

I have revised the test, among other issues I have added an Instructions
sheet. Licensed under MPL/LGPLv3 +

Please if someone can review the text, thanks in advance.

I have try to register in Moztrap, but by now I have not received the
confirmation email.

And as the Moztrap is in first steps, maybe better not too much hands on it.
So please put the test in Moztrap if it is right.

Is there some guide on how to structure the name of the test files?
I think could be useful in the future.

Regards,
Miguel Ángel.

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4006903/LibreO_qaTest_ConditionalFormatting_3-5-5-3_en.ods
LibreO_qaTest_ConditionalFormatting_3-5-5-3_en.ods 



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[Libreoffice-qa] [TRIAGE] 2nd Checker fdo#48942

2012-09-11 Thread Joel Madero
Can someone else check out this bug and see if you can verify. I was unable
to but the user swears they still have a problem with it and has reopened
the bug as such. If you could check and comment on it that would be great.

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48942

Best Regards,
Joel
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Triaging Project Update (10/09/2012)

2012-09-11 Thread Joel Madero
We all fit in just the same :) At this point we're really in the early
stages of getting a team together who is willing and able to commit some
time at triaging (and more broadly QA work - but for now just triaging). I
am hoping to get all bugs >30 days UNCONFIRMED taken care of by the end of
the year. We had some solid progress in the last 4-5 weeks but it's slowed
down and that's not good. If you can, please go to this link,

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApS-XtOUGGH5dDIwaXN1YnNsM0h4RXFKdVhvb2RRb0E#gid=1


and assign yourself one of the tabs. Also please add your name to the
contact list so we can finally get a real team together that's regularly
triaging. In the long run (once we're caught up) we can start looking into
assigning new bugs to triage based on the list of contacts. I think 10-15
people are needed if we're going to keep up with the amount of bug reports,
right now we have probably that number but only 4-6 are really active.

Thanks for offering, this is one of the areas where we really need help.
Feel free to add me on gchat and/or email me if you have any
questions/concerns/suggestions.


Best Regards,
Joel

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Hashem Masoud wrote:

> Dear Joel,
>
> I'm willing to help. Where do I fit in within the QA team? You can see my
> recent activity in FDO bugzilla Libreoffice bugs.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:44 AM, Joel Madero wrote:
>
>> Weekly update and reminder that we're still looking for people to help
>> out. Progress is ongoing but it's slowed down a bit. Thanks to everyone
>> continuing to help. Here is the link to the spreadsheet again:
>>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> --
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>
>
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Triaging Project Update (10/09/2012)

2012-09-11 Thread Hashem Masoud
Dear Joel,

I'm willing to help. Where do I fit in within the QA team? You can see my
recent activity in FDO bugzilla Libreoffice bugs.

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:44 AM, Joel Madero  wrote:

> Weekly update and reminder that we're still looking for people to help
> out. Progress is ongoing but it's slowed down a bit. Thanks to everyone
> continuing to help. Here is the link to the spreadsheet again:
>



Regards,

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[Libreoffice-qa] TOO many NEEDINFO bugs open for +6 months

2012-09-11 Thread Florian Reisinger

Hi!

After the Needinfo closure (Okay some time after that...)

At the beginning there were 14 bugs 2012-08-28
The last time it was actualized (2012-09-04 ) there are ~40 bugs

You can find  the report (Sorry for that) New Charts --> All -> Bugs in 
NEEDINFO status


Yours

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Writer: Use of different items for Formatting Marks

2012-09-11 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Jochen,

Jochen schrieb:

Hi Regina,

do you have an overview, if in LO the terms "NO-BREAK SPACE", "NO-BREAK
SPACE" and "SOFT HYPHEN" are used consistently?


No, I have no overview about the use of the terms. In addition to the 
terms which are 'correct' in regard to Unicode, terms are often used in 
the same wording as they occur in MS Office.




Exits a QA-document (e.g. in Wiki) where this is written/noted?


I don't know, whether such a document exists. Long time ago, the attempt 
to start an UI review, was not successful.


Kind regards
Regina
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Writer: Use of different items for Formatting Marks

2012-09-11 Thread Jochen

Hi Regina,

do you have an overview, if in LO the terms "NO-BREAK SPACE", "NO-BREAK 
SPACE" and "SOFT HYPHEN" are used consistently?


Exits a QA-document (e.g. in Wiki) where this is written/noted?


> Translating to German is a different problem, because there exists no
> normative translation of the Unicode standard. The discussion is old,

History repeats itself.

Regards

Jochen


Am 11.09.2012 14:54, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi Jochen,

Jochen schrieb:

Hi *,

in bugreport 45588 [1] is discussed following problem concerning writer:
Use of different items for Formatting Marks (in German Localization).

My proposal to solve the problem is
1) Clarify what are the correct terms in English
2) Clarify if terms are in english UI and help of LO entered correctly
3) Clarify what are the correct terms in German
4) Localisation in German

I want to discuss the two first steps on this ML:
1) Clarify what are the correct terms in English
2) Clarify if terms are in english UI and help of LO entered correctly


I propose to use in English always the terms of the Unicode
specification, see http://unicode.org/charts



English Wikipedia: Non-breaking space
Unicode: U+00A0
In English also known as: No-break space, non-breakable space, NBSP, hard
space, fixed space
Terms used in English UI and LO Help: non-breaking space, protected space
Proposal for LO, English: None-breaking space


NO-BREAK SPACE
or its common abbreviation NBSP




English Wikipedia: Non-breaking hyphen
Unicode: U+2011
Terms used in Englich UI and LO Help: non-breaking hyphen, non-breaking
dash, protected hyphen, non-breaking (protected) hyphen
Proposal for LO, English: Non-breaking hyphen


NON-BREAKING HYPHEN




English Wikipedia: Soft hyphen
Unicode: U+00AD
Terms used in English UI and Help: optional hyphen, custom hyphen,
definite separator, conditional separator, user-defined delimiter
Proposal for LO, English: Soft hyphen


SOFT HYPHEN
or its common abbreviation SHY

Translating to German is a different problem, because there exists no
normative translation of the Unicode standard. The discussion is old,
see https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=39762

Kind regards
Regina


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[Libreoffice-qa] Off: Just sharing some nice words ...

2012-09-11 Thread Roman Eisele

Hi all,

because we bugwranglers often have to face comments which are not very 
friendly about LibreOffice and/or about ourselfes, I just want to share 
with you a hearwarming comment:


> Not to forget to mention I love your great Office Suite. I don't
> like Microsoft, so thank you very much for this cool tool.

(from https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54731#c2)

Best,

Roman
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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANNOUNCE] libreoffice-3.6.2.1 tag created

2012-09-11 Thread Petr Mladek
Hi,

there have been created the libreoffice-3.6.2.1 tag (aka rc1). The
corresponding official builds will be available within next few days.

See the attached list of changes against 3.6.1.2[*].


Now, you might switch your current 3-6 source tree to it using:

./g fetch --tags
./g checkout -b tag-libreoffice-3.6.2.1 libreoffice-3.6.2.1

Linux distro packages might find source tarballs at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/src/
They will be available from the official page together with the builds.


See also the schedule at 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan#3.6_release
and release criteria at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Release_Criteria

[*] The list contains fixes from 3.6.1.2. It is created using
libreoffice/core/bin/lo-commit-stat. It parses output from git log and
does not match cherry-picked commits. We might get better results with
'git cherry' or another approach. Feel free to send patches :-)


Best Regards,
Petr
bnc#774921 be more careful in recognizing MathML [Tor Lillqvist]
deb#681185 wait for InternalIPC::ProcessingDone in oosplash [Stephan Bergmann]
fdo#35001 spellcheck context menu contains too few variants [László Németh]
fdo#36149 CRASH hovering over Menu "File > Send" if no JRE is available and MediaWiki Publisher installed [Stephan Bergmann]
fdo#38242 format ordinal number suffix not auto-correcting [Caolán McNamara]
fdo#38791 FILEOPEN - ReportBuilder: existing report with .JPG [Stephan Bergmann]
fdo#38913 CRASH at startup citing msvcr90.dll after upgrade (most likely related to javasettings_Windows_x86.xml in the user profile) [Stephan Bergmann]
fdo#43433 DisposedException: java.io.IOException: com.sun.star.io.IOException: EOF reached [Stephan Bergmann]
fdo#46141 UI: Header/footer prompts should only appear if user clicks in header/footer area [Cédric Bosdonnat]
fdo#46249 CRASH when browse to HD root directory in FILEOPEN Template dialog [Stephan Bergmann]
fdo#46250 EDITING: Paste and Paste Special not available for horizontally adjacent cells to vertical cell selection [Noel Power]
fdo#46480 Calc 3.5 Cannot Filter Date/Time Fields from Data Sources [Lionel Elie Mamane]
fdo#46542 SPELL The English word "usability" requires the indefinite article "a", not "an" [László Németh]
fdo#46549 Libreoffice Grammar Check returns, "bad article," incorrectly [László Németh]
fdo#47036 Error in rendering of rtf files generated by Crystal Report engine which were previously OK in LibO 3.4. [Miklos Vajna]
fdo#47368 [Task] Many crashes when accessibility enabled on MacOS X [Michael Meeks, Tor Lillqvist]
fdo#47434 FILEOPEN pptx arrows are shifted to the left [Muthu Subramanian]
fdo#47495 Problem with RTF documents created using Oracle Report [Miklos Vajna]
fdo#48200 Calc FILEOPEN: Regex option in database range filters not saved. [Noel Power]
fdo#48868 Ctrl-Tab no longer passes to next Auto input values [Kohei Yoshida]
fdo#49255 FORMATTING: row height not preserved after FILESAVE and reopen [Noel Power]
fdo#49441 FILEOPEN for multiple documents fails from built-in File Dialog [Ivan Timofeev]
fdo#49901 Writer FORMATTING: During Find&Replace operation wrong part of text becomes selected [Michael Stahl]
fdo#49919 Don't default to desktop pollution [Jan Holesovsky]
fdo#50584 LibreOffice says that Java runtime JRE 1.7 on Windows is defective [Andras Timar]
fdo#51514 The "Target in document" window displays hundreds of nonsensical items in bookmarks [Michael Stahl]
fdo#51777 FILEOPEN particular .HTML: 1 twip double borders lossage [Michael Stahl]
fdo#51926 FILEOPEN particular .xlsm: Formula with link to external contents missing if target sheet name contains space [Eike Rathke]
fdo#52052 FILEOPEN: Imported RTF file is incorrect, table in document is corrupt [Miklos Vajna]
fdo#52078 shlxthdl_x64.dll/shlxthdl.dll causes Windows Explorer to CRASH repeatedly when Flat ODF file is in view [Andras Timar]
fdo#52137 Year and Day of date interchanged after input [Eike Rathke]
fdo#52240 [Task] EDITING: Incomplete Date values are no longer detected [Eike Rathke]
fdo#52246 Translations errors should not break the build [Andras Bartek]
fdo#52288 [DE] EDITING: Allow truncated date inputs from numeric keyboard [Eike Rathke]
fdo#52340 EDITING: CRASH when Copy+Paste row with conditional formatting to other sheet and back to inserted row [Markus Mohrhard]
fdo#52451 UI: FILESAVE as Text (encoded) should offer .txt as file type and name extension [Kohei Yoshida]
fdo#53001 REPORT BUILDER UI: Unlink picture action in Image control file dialog without effect [Joel Madero]
fdo#53009 Large UserInstallation's user/extensions/bundled/ tree [Stephan Bergmann]
fdo#53113 DOCX filter loses shape containing text [Miklos Vajna]
fdo#53175 FILEOPEN error reading “Content (TOC)” from a DOCX [Cédric Bosdonnat]
fdo#53229 FILEOPEN particular .ods from LibO 3.0.0 shows grouped form fields at wrong horizontal position [Noel Power]
fdo#53252 UI: CRASH when edit LibO File Dialog Path Pane [Stephan Bergmann]
fdo#53258 Se

[Libreoffice-qa] LO 3.7 enhancements

2012-09-11 Thread Timur Gadzo
Hello

I'm writing this message as a reaction to comment from Mikeyy on Bug
54157 - LibreOffice 3.7 most annoying bugs. He asked for Bug 36815 -
Advanced printing capabilities of comments in Writer [PRINTING].
As it's often said, MAB is no place for discussions and no place to
ask for enhancements. Now in MAB 3.7 theres is very nice instruction
saying "For details, criteria and further instructions, please see
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Most_Annoying_Bugs";.
But, I'm myself interested in new features in LO. There is a page
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Vote_for_Enhancement. Bug 36815 is
there, as well as Bug 34355 - Use margins to track changes and some
others. There is even
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Enterprises_nice-to-have
but I think is redundant. I think that old OpenOffice voting system
was nice and simple.
So, a question for QA: Do these pages influence some decisions? Are
they still relevant? There should be some explanation.

Regards
Timur Gadzo
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Writer: Use of different items for Formatting Marks

2012-09-11 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Jochen,

Jochen schrieb:

Hi *,

in bugreport 45588 [1] is discussed following problem concerning writer:
Use of different items for Formatting Marks (in German Localization).

My proposal to solve the problem is
1) Clarify what are the correct terms in English
2) Clarify if terms are in english UI and help of LO entered correctly
3) Clarify what are the correct terms in German
4) Localisation in German

I want to discuss the two first steps on this ML:
1) Clarify what are the correct terms in English
2) Clarify if terms are in english UI and help of LO entered correctly


I propose to use in English always the terms of the Unicode 
specification, see http://unicode.org/charts




English Wikipedia: Non-breaking space
Unicode: U+00A0
In English also known as: No-break space, non-breakable space, NBSP, hard
space, fixed space
Terms used in English UI and LO Help: non-breaking space, protected space
Proposal for LO, English: None-breaking space


NO-BREAK SPACE
or its common abbreviation NBSP




English Wikipedia: Non-breaking hyphen
Unicode: U+2011
Terms used in Englich UI and LO Help: non-breaking hyphen, non-breaking
dash, protected hyphen, non-breaking (protected) hyphen
Proposal for LO, English: Non-breaking hyphen


NON-BREAKING HYPHEN




English Wikipedia: Soft hyphen
Unicode: U+00AD
Terms used in English UI and Help: optional hyphen, custom hyphen,
definite separator, conditional separator, user-defined delimiter
Proposal for LO, English: Soft hyphen


SOFT HYPHEN
or its common abbreviation SHY

Translating to German is a different problem, because there exists no 
normative translation of the Unicode standard. The discussion is old, 
see https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=39762


Kind regards
Regina


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[Libreoffice-qa] Writer: Use of different items for Formatting Marks

2012-09-11 Thread Jochen

Hi *,

in bugreport 45588 [1] is discussed following problem concerning writer:
Use of different items for Formatting Marks (in German Localization).

My proposal to solve the problem is
1) Clarify what are the correct terms in English
2) Clarify if terms are in english UI and help of LO entered correctly
3) Clarify what are the correct terms in German
4) Localisation in German

I want to discuss the two first steps on this ML:
1) Clarify what are the correct terms in English
2) Clarify if terms are in english UI and help of LO entered correctly

English Wikipedia: Non-breaking space
Unicode: U+00A0
In English also known as: No-break space, non-breakable space, NBSP, hard
space, fixed space
Terms used in English UI and LO Help: non-breaking space, protected space
Proposal for LO, English: None-breaking space


English Wikipedia: Non-breaking hyphen
Unicode: U+2011
Terms used in Englich UI and LO Help: non-breaking hyphen, non-breaking 
dash, protected hyphen, non-breaking (protected) hyphen

Proposal for LO, English: Non-breaking hyphen


English Wikipedia: Soft hyphen
Unicode: U+00AD
Terms used in English UI and Help: optional hyphen, custom hyphen, 
definite separator, conditional separator, user-defined delimiter

Proposal for LO, English: Soft hyphen


In the UI these positions where the terms for formatting marks are used:
Insert > Formatting Mark
Tools > Options... > LibreOffice Writer > Formatting aids

In the Help these help pages where the terms are used:
Help page to (b)
Inserting Protected Spaces, Hyphens and Conditional Separators
Formatting Mark
Shortcut Keys for LibreOffice Writer
Hyphenation


My aim is to define and use uniform/common terms in LO (and than 
localize to German - also in uniform/common terms).



[1] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45588

Regards

Jochen
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-09-11 Thread Petr Mladek
Lionel Elie Mamane píše v Po 10. 09. 2012 v 15:44 +0200:
> On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 04:42:11PM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote:
> 
> > * QA update (Rainer)
> > + HardHacks:
> >   ID  OS  Component - Summary
> >   
> 
> >   32948   Linux   Libreoffice/Database(?) - Address Book Data Source
> >Wizard fails with message "No SDBC driver was found"
> > + bug-log mixes several different issues, very unclear.
> > + please open separate, new, clean issues & re-report.
> > + one is split to bug#54450 Evo/Addressbook doesn't work
> > + David to kindly look into it.
> 
> David fixed the issue, which was specific to "evolution address book,
> but none of gnome-vfs, nor gconf, nor gio are enabled".
> 
> > AI: + enable evolution connector in distro-config for Linux 
> > (Lionel)
> 
> AI done (on master only, for 3.7)
> 
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=b410acd1369609107eb3d99db767d7e779c393ce

It should work fine. I have pushed it to 3-6 as well.

Best Regards,
Petr


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