Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 'free' testing on Moztrap
Hi Sophie, I probablly didn't get the background clear here. Sorry if I disturb your thinking :) In Moztrap, when mark a step failed, there's an option to a bugzilla link, see: http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/results/case/1559/ Does it work for your situation if the reporter pastes the bugzilla link (where the attachment appears) back to Moztrap test case? Best wishes, Yifan On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 03:37:14PM +0100, Sophie Gautier wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm still reviewing the test we have in Moztrap and increasing them. > Because of the amount of bugs we had on Calc, we discussed about 'free' > tests on Moztrap where the tester just test one of his document and > report in Moztrap what's work/fail. > Unfortunately, it will be impossible for me to track the feedback in > case of failures and make a report on BZ based on it. I can't reach the > tester and I won't be able to reproduce with no clear steps and expected > results. > Have you some suggestions on how that testing could be made possible? > Cheers > Sophie > ___ > List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list > Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org > Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ > -- Yifan Jiang SUSE Desktop, Libreoffice /SUSE Contact: yifan - irc.freenode.net/libreoffice = http://www.libreoffice.org/ http://www.documentfoundation.org/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 'free' testing on Moztrap
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:43 AM, mariosv wrote: > In my point of view, link in Moztrap to BZ samples files good for test. > I think in this way could be easy in the future if one test fails, track > their bug, reopen it, contact developer who patch it, etc. With a > minimal expense of disk space, avoiding file duplication. We are green :-)?. > Maybe better invest the time in make easier report bugs. I agree that better integration between the tests (MozTrap) and the bug tracker (Bugzilla) would be very helpful. Sophie - When we ask a user to test one of their own documents, would it be possible for us to directly link from the testing page to Bugzilla/the BSA so that for a failing test, we could capture information re: - The user - The particular failing test - The document (via upload in the bug report) ?? This would probably require us to hack on the BSA and fix it so that variables would be passed-in correctly, but perhaps that would be the strongest and simplest solution here... > Thinking around, could be possible use bugzilla, specially when it will > be in our administration, for have the test in it. It's a knowed > administration, easy for search, for use as reference from bug reports, > much more visibility when publish, one place less to administrate. I > don't know but I think merits for take a think about. +1 to richer integration! Cheers, --R ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 'free' testing on Moztrap
El 19/02/14 15:37, sophi [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] escribió: > Hi all, > > I'm still reviewing the test we have in Moztrap and increasing them. > Because of the amount of bugs we had on Calc, we discussed about 'free' > tests on Moztrap where the tester just test one of his document and > report in Moztrap what's work/fail. > Unfortunately, it will be impossible for me to track the feedback in > case of failures and make a report on BZ based on it. I can't reach the > tester and I won't be able to reproduce with no clear steps and expected > results. > Have you some suggestions on how that testing could be made possible? > Cheers > Sophie > ___ Hi Sphie, all. In my point of view, link in Moztrap to BZ samples files good for test. I think in this way could be easy in the future if one test fails, track their bug, reopen it, contact developer who patch it, etc. With a minimal expense of disk space, avoiding file duplication. We are green :-)?. Maybe better invest the time in make easier report bugs. Thinking around, could be possible use bugzilla, specially when it will be in our administration, for have the test in it. It's a knowed administration, easy for search, for use as reference from bug reports, much more visibility when publish, one place less to administrate. I don't know but I think merits for take a think about. Regards. Miguel Ángel. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Re-Libreoffice-qa-free-testing-on-Moztrap-tp4097935.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com.___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] 'free' testing on Moztrap
Hi all, I'm still reviewing the test we have in Moztrap and increasing them. Because of the amount of bugs we had on Calc, we discussed about 'free' tests on Moztrap where the tester just test one of his document and report in Moztrap what's work/fail. Unfortunately, it will be impossible for me to track the feedback in case of failures and make a report on BZ based on it. I can't reach the tester and I won't be able to reproduce with no clear steps and expected results. Have you some suggestions on how that testing could be made possible? Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
Hi Michael Three questions/comments: Michael Meeks-5 wrote > + 4.2.1 RC1 status > + currently building on Windows (almost finished), > + can be pushed to pre-releases & announced to early-QA today. > + new-strings, previously un-translated, now marked - but didn't > update them in Pootle - not yet available > + will be updated today, so 2 weeks until fixing in RC2. 1) Why is LO jumping from 4.2.1.1 to 4.2.2.(2?)? Michael Meeks-5 wrote > * HiDPI patches for 4.2.x? (Kendy) > + LibreOffice does not look good on HiDPI screens at all - close to > unusable > + proposal to merge the HiDPI work to 4.2.x as a late feature > + I would split the work into 'safe' and 'need real review' parts > & push to a branch > + can I get ESC approval / 3 intedependent reviews for that ? > + is it a feature or a bug-fix ? (Michael) > + most of the pieces going in enclosed in an if (hidpi) ... > + checking that everything in the right if. > + less safe part is checking / setting that flag; a small VCL > piece. > + Michael / Caolan signed up to review as/when there is a branch. One of the obvious problems is icon size. LO icon size is set by default to "Automatic". In my mind Automatic means there is a criteria defined that allows LO to use small icons in low res displays and large icons in high res... As far as I know, it never worked properly in LO... https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67847 Michael Meeks-5 wrote > + 4.2.0 pushed to Ubuntu development release I just downloaded Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS and noticed that the LO version included is 3.5.7.2(!), not even 3.6.7.2 (the last in the 3.x series) Why isn't LO updated in the LTS to at least the 4.1 branch? Firefox is up to date with version 27... Cheers, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-minutes-of-ESC-call-tp4097863p4097888.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
Apologies - I completely forgot to send this last week: * Present: + Cedric, David, Andras, Christian, Astron, Markus, Michael M, Miklos, Lionel, Stephan, Caolan, Kendy, Adam, Bjoern, Jacobo, Tor * Completed Action Items + add slides to https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/Fosdem2014/talks [ volunteer to add thumbnails appreciated ;-]. * Pending Action Items: + GSOC mentors - prune / remove already done ideas from each side (All) + need design for copying styles between templates (Cor Nouws/other UX?) cf. http://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01658.html http://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01663.html [ Astron made mockup, discussed with Cor, but not published yet ] + look into non-functioning 'install' button in update dialog (Kendy / Andras) [ Kendy has security concerns around downloading & executing pieces here not a trivial fix. Signing / build verification discussion stalled. Investigation ongoing. ]. + Online Help needs update to match current behavior (Help -> Check for Updates -> Help) https://help.libreoffice.org/swriter/EXTENSIONS_HID_CHECK_FOR_UPD_DLG AI + File an MAB and loose it here (Kendy) + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74934 * Release Engineering update (Christian) + 4.1.5 RC3 status + a Calc problem needed RC3 + Linux & Mac already uploaded, Windows just packinging + will be announced for early testing later today, final announcement delayed to the next week + 4.2.1 RC1 status + currently building on Windows (almost finished), + can be pushed to pre-releases & announced to early-QA today. + new-strings, previously un-translated, now marked - but didn't update them in Pootle - not yet available + will be updated today, so 2 weeks until fixing in RC2. * GSoC update (Cedric) + Google review starting / underway + please consider what you are able to mentor: + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas + please checkout tasks with only one mentor and add yourself as a backup mentor. * Crashtest update (Markus) + new crash-test / data (?) + http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/f3d93434829d0e7c004679d000c30a934083b188/ + calc looks really good outside of sxc + about 50x new writer issues on master * UX hackfest bits (Kendy) + update achievements: Ahmad, Mirek, Tamas, Jacobo, others ... ? https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/FOSDEM2014#Achievements + be great to get some a11y fixes in (Jacobo) + need more small usability bugs for the next hack-fest to nail (Astron) + would have been good to have 50x string change bugs or somesuch. + could we file these as easy hacks ? (Michael) + perhaps a list like the QA team ? (Astron) AI: + will try filing a lot of small string changes as easy hacks (Michael) + instead, had a number of quite large bugs, of which few were fixed. * UX update (Astron) + Mirek & Astron - been distracted, not a lot happening just now. + need to get chats re-started etc. * new hack-fest proposal (Bjoern) + offer of a hack-fest there, end of April + somewhat far away, but flights not so expensive ~Eur300 return + will enough people go there ? and what date ? + initial proposal - Easter weekend but expensive etc. + weekend ~problematic ? but Thur/Fri possible; April 24-25th ? + do we have budget ? (Michael) + yes, developer budget is there (Bjoern) + do we find enough (of the right) people to go ? + not end of April, would like to go (Stephan) * HiDPI patches for 4.2.x? (Kendy) + LibreOffice does not look good on HiDPI screens at all - close to unusable + proposal to merge the HiDPI work to 4.2.x as a late feature + I would split the work into 'safe' and 'need real review' parts & push to a branch + can I get ESC approval / 3 intedependent reviews for that ? + is it a feature or a bug-fix ? (Michael) + most of the pieces going in enclosed in an if (hidpi) ... + checking that everything in the right if. + less safe part is checking / setting that flag; a small VCL piece. + Michael / Caolan signed up to review as/when there is a branch. * Certification update (Kendy/Bjoern/Stephan) * QA (Bjoern) + Celebrated 25k reported bugs in LibreOffice recently: + http://skyfromme.wordpress.com/2014/02/11/libreoffice-bugzilla-status/ + mostly closed, great to see Sophie's impact on triage. + post-release bug filing rate is ~static + so release not terribly bad. + 4.2.0 pushed to Ubuntu development release + Awesome work by Michael Stahl on writer regressio
