Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice Bugzilla Migration] We're done! Please visit the new site to reset your password!

2015-01-27 Thread Michael Stahl
On 27.01.2015 08:12, Robinson Tryon wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:20 AM, Tommy ba...@quipo.it wrote:
 +1. we really need to remove a lot of those useless keywords
 
 Here's the current list of keywords:
 
 ALL: What should go?
 
 
 
 bisected (255)
 The bug has been successfully connected to a code commit that
 introduced the bug (such as with git bisect).

useful, keep

 bisect_pending (0)
 The bug seems likely to benefit from bisecting, (such as easy to
 reproduce, etc.), but the bisect has not yet been performed. See also
 the bisected keyword.

this sounds similar to BibisectRequest - which one to keep?

 cleanup0407 (2)
 April 2007 bug cleanup.

DELETE

 have-backtrace (232)
 bugs that have a useful backtrace

useful, keep

 i18n (26)
 Xorg Internationalisation issues (i18n)

sounds potentially useful, we don't have a component with similar
scope (but if we keep it the description needs to remove Xorg and it
should be merged with l10 as they seem very similar)

 janitor (9)
 Cleanup bugs, usually trivial.

sounds like EasyHack? DELETE

 l10n (51)
 Xorg/X11 Localisation issues

see i18n above

 licence (2)
 Files with licence problems (e.g. mixing incompatible licences,
 missing/non-permissive copyrights, et al)

not sure if we want this, best to get BoD's opinion on that...

 love (8)
 Marking a bug with this keyword means that you're willing to help
 someone fix the bug, or that it should be fixable by a beginner
 without any help. This should ONLY be set by a maintainer or people
 familiar with the code base, and ONLY when it looks like a project
 suitable for a new developer looking for a task.

covered by EasyHack - DELETE

 movetoxkc (0)
 Bugs that should be moved to xkeyboard-config, if still applicable.

DELETE

 NEEDINFO (51)
 The bug does not have enough information in order to solve the
 problem. Please read the comments and add the relevant information
 required to aid in solving the problem.

this is a status, so doesn't need to be a keyword too?

 notourbug (2)
 It's not really our bug, but we might work around it anyway.

RESOLVED NOTOURBUG - DELETE?

 patch (21)
 Bugs with a valid patch.

the patch attachment should have the patch flag set which can be
queried so why do we need this?

 regression (3392)
 Xorg bug regressions (issues previously fixed but somehow broken again)

keep the all-time favorite, remove Xorg from description though

 security (6)
 Security-sensitive bugs

sure, let's keep them in the public bug tracker :D

 want-backtrace (13)
 Bugs whose triage could be greatly accelerated with the addition of a
 backtrace from the crash.

hmm sounds like it could be useful...

 x12 (0)
 Bugs that require a protocol version bump.

DELETE

 and add some [keywords]
 that are nore useful.
 
 We have a number of tags that we put in the Whiteboard right now
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Whiteboard
 (also see advanced page)
 
 Many of those could become keywords.
 
 ALL: Proposals on which ones?

confirmedRegression never served any purpose and should be summarily
DELETED

possibleRegression could be a keyword, unless it's considered too
transient a state... is that a criterion? hmmm... why not just add it...

confirmed:VERSION:OS noRepro:VERSION:OS needsSOFTWARE
needsHARDWARE target:X.Y summary:comment# are not fixed so cannot
be keyword

bibisected should be keyword

odf and odf_validation should be keywords

a11y sounds useful as a keyword

perf sounds useful as a keyword

interoperability could be a keyword too, although perhaps a better
name is required that indicates this is about Microsoft Office and its
formats in particular (MSOinterop? MSO? MSinterop? MSOffice?).

there are *lots* of easy-hack related ones... not sure about those?
perhaps better leave them in the whiteboard since we may often add
additional ones etc. and the keyword list may become cluttered?




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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Informations and help for a bug report

2015-01-27 Thread Terrence Enger
Marina,

Thank you for taking the time to help us improve LibreOffice.

A bug report would be good, please.  Please add me
lo_bugs@iseries-guru-com to the CC.  I can confirm the bug, and I
hope to do a bibisect.

More comments in-line.

Terry.

On Tue, 2015-01-27 at 17:10 +0100, Marina Latini wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm writing here because I need to report a bug but I have some
problem to write the correct report.

This looks wonderful.  

 
 I have a business xlsx file with complex formulas. In particular there
are:
 * matrix with nested indirect references
 * formulas that refer to a query from Excel.

My old LibreOffice complains

This file contains links to other files.  Should they be updated?

When I click No it displays the file, but pegs the CPU for the few
minutes that I waited for it.

I presume that you have the linked-to file(s).  Do you get the same
result when you do and do not update the links?

 
 I can't open the document with a LibreOffice version bigger then
3.6.7.2. All the 4.X versions hang during opening while LibreOffice
3.6.7.2 opens the file with some errors.
 
 I can provide the xlsx file and 3 screenshots of the document opened
with Office365 and LibreOffice 3.6.7.2.
 I tested the files on my Ubuntu 14.04 x86_64 and on Windows Server
2012 R2
 
 I don't know what LibreOffice version set in the report but I'm sure
that 3.6.7.2 opens the file.

Set the earliest version which you have observed to fail to open the
file.  Anybody who finds an earlier failing version will adjust the
LibreOffice version to the earlier version.

 
 file to test: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4rmc162mgjisd4a/01%
20CLEAN.xlsx?dl=0
 
 Screenshot from Office365:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ws8rr3mj6juouuo/01Clean_Office365.png?dl=0
 Screenshot from LibreOffice 3.6.7.2 (query):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/00xnspejrrk1nfd/01CleanLibO-query3672.png?dl=0
 Screenshot from LibreOffice 3.6.7.2 (matrix with indirect):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h5qtxf6ji9u71n2/01CleanLibO-indirect3672.png?dl=0
 
 
 Best,
 Marina


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[Libreoffice-qa] And then there were two...

2015-01-27 Thread Robinson Tryon
Bugzilla Products Table (bug counts):

  Impress Remote - 1
  LibreOffice - 33642

:-)

--

I've stubbed-in the basics for the Impress Remote product. Before we
jump in and move-over all of the bugs, let's get our ducks in a row
and our fields set up properly.

1) Are we missing any version #'s?

(Should those all be 'X.y.z alpha' or 'X.y.z final' ? Looks like
that's the naming convention so far, right Cloph?)

2) What Components should this product have?

Here's a start:
- Documentation
- General
- Localization
- UI

3) What's the difference between the Android and iOS ports?

NOTE: Both Android and iOS have been added to the 'OS' field (this is
a global field for all products). Please set this field when
migrating-over bug reports.

4) FirefoxOS? There's some code in there... have we ever built it?

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/gitweb?p=impress_remote.git;a=history;f=firefoxos/sdremote;hb=HEAD

5) How about the Pebble remote? Should this have its own component?

(Gülşah: you're the expert here :-)


Thanks!
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice Bugzilla Migration] We're done! Please visit the new site to reset your password!

2015-01-27 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Michael Stahl mst...@redhat.com wrote:
 if i go to Saved Searches there are a whole bunch of XOrg and GPU
 driver related ones imported from FDO; somebody with sufficient
 privileges needs to clean up there.

HIya,
I cleaned up some of the obvious queries. Are there any more that
should be removed?

Thanks,
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[Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla: Adopt-a-Component

2015-01-27 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

I just had a quick idea for getting people more involved with bug
triage and testing: Adopt-a-Component
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Components#Components

The idea is simple: If you put your name in the table to 'Adopt a
component', you're signaling that you really want to help triage bugs
in that area. Perhaps you have a particular skill with that program or
category, or you're just gung-ho about getting those particular bugs
fixed.

Of course, a person is always free to triage whatever bugs he likes,
but I think that getting people to sign up for a role can be a
positive mechanism to help contributors feel that they have a specific
focus to their work, and to take pride when their component(s) meet
our targets for first response (1 week) and full triage (2 weeks).

Anyhow, stop listening to me blather, and go sign up for your favorite
components!

Best,
--R

P.S. Feel free to invite a friend to sign up to Adopt a particular
Component, too. Maybe you can have a little friendly competition
between components? :-)

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[Libreoffice-qa] Help me make a 'welcome box' for people redirected from FDO

2015-01-27 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

Bugzilla post-migration is going well. If you've been poking around
the bug tracker lately, you've probably seen a few little fixes and
improvements here and there. Those will continue to trickle-in over
the next few weeks.

Tollef (our awesome contact/sysadmin) at FDO has modified redirect bug
urls for us. So if you go here:
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58920

You get redirected here:
 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58920redirected_from=fdo

I'd like to put a little infobox (welcome box) up on the screen
whenever someone gets forwarded to us from FDO. I'm thinking it could
look like a post-it, or maybe just a box that slides out from the
right-hand side of the screen. We can add a greeting, and provide some
help for people who might still be unfamiliar with the migration.
Example:

Welcome to the new TDF Bugzilla!
You've been redirected from Freedesktop to
bugs.documentfoundation.org, as we've just migrated all the
LibreOffice bugs to our own bugtracker!

If you already had an account in Bugzilla, click [here] to activate
your migrated user account. If you never had an account, click [here]
to set one up!

Questions? Somethings? Try the
* Migration FAQ
* QA IRC Channel
* etc..

I'd love it if someone could mock-up some HTML for this post-it note!

Thanks,
--R

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] And then there were two...

2015-01-27 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:49 AM, Gülşah Köse gulsah.1...@gmail.com wrote:
 2015-01-27 10:54 GMT+02:00 Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com:
 2) What Components should this product have?

 - Installation
 - Connection
 - Pebble
 - Android
 - iOS
 - FirefoxOS

I was under the impression that there was some shared code between
Android and iOS, but it sounds like each app is separate, so
(theoretically) they could be separate products. At least for now,
I've made up Components for each one: 'Android app', 'iOS app', etc.
Hopefully those names will help clue-in users that there is a
difference between each product.

Now that leaves an open question about how we should handle version
numbers. (I guess we can use the same #s for each app; there just
won't be correlation between the apps as to what a particular number
means in terms of functionality)

Best,
--R

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Hijack bulk bug updates to remind about Bugzilla Migration

2015-01-27 Thread Tommy
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 13:24:44 +0100, Robinson Tryon  
bishop.robin...@gmail.com wrote:



Quick reminder:

The next time we (read: probably Joel) do some bulk updates of bug
reports, we shoudl leverage that opportunity to insert a small
reminder about the migration of Bugzilla, password reset, etc.

Linking to this would probably be good:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/TDF_Bugzilla_Proposal/Migration_Userguide#After_the_Migration

Thanks,
--R



nice idea. it would be useful to do that.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice Bugzilla Migration] We're done! Please visit the new site to reset your password!

2015-01-27 Thread Tommy
On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 08:12:34 +0100, Robinson Tryon  
bishop.robin...@gmail.com wrote:



On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:20 AM, Tommy ba...@quipo.it wrote:

+1. we really need to remove a lot of those useless keywords


Here's the current list of keywords:

ALL: What should go?



these are the one that I'd remove.



cleanup0407 (2)
April 2007 bug cleanup.


i18n (26)
Xorg Internationalisation issues (i18n)




l10n (51)
Xorg/X11 Localisation issues

licence (2)
Files with licence problems (e.g. mixing incompatible licences,
missing/non-permissive copyrights, et al)

movetoxkc (0)
Bugs that should be moved to xkeyboard-config, if still applicable.

NEEDINFO (51)
The bug does not have enough information in order to solve the
problem. Please read the comments and add the relevant information
required to aid in solving the problem.

notourbug (2)
It's not really our bug, but we might work around it anyway.

patch (21)
Bugs with a valid patch.

security (6)
Security-sensitive bugs

x12 (0)
Bugs that require a protocol version bump.



I include the NEEDINFO and notourbug keywords that are basically useless  
duplicates of the NEEDINFO and NOTOURBUG status.






and add some [keywords]
that are nore useful.


We have a number of tags that we put in the Whiteboard right now
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Whiteboard
(also see advanced page)

Many of those could become keywords.

ALL: Proposals on which ones?


I think that all the bibisect related tags could be tunred into keywords.


morevoer I'd like to have specific attachment default extension types,  
like
.odt, .ods, .doc, .docx, .xls and .xlsx which are commonly attached by  
users

and commonly mislabeled.


Are you talking about the mimetype problems on FDO?
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Attachments#MIME_Type_Problems

AFAIK, those are fixed

Best,
--R



I was talking about the select MIME type dropdown menu which actually  
offers only PNG, JPEG, PDF and a few others.


anyway if you say that the automatic detection now works fine, this is  
probably not necessary anymore


Tommaso

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[Libreoffice-qa] Informations and help for a bug report

2015-01-27 Thread Marina Latini
Hi all,

I'm writing here because I need to report a bug but I have some problem to 
write the correct report.

I have a business xlsx file with complex formulas. In particular there are:
* matrix with nested indirect references
* formulas that refer to a query from Excel.

I can't open the document with a LibreOffice version bigger then 3.6.7.2. All 
the 4.X versions hang during opening while LibreOffice 3.6.7.2 opens the file 
with some errors.

I can provide the xlsx file and 3 screenshots of the document opened with 
Office365 and LibreOffice 3.6.7.2.
I tested the files on my Ubuntu 14.04 x86_64 and on Windows Server 2012 R2

I don't know what LibreOffice version set in the report but I'm sure that 
3.6.7.2 opens the file.

file to test: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4rmc162mgjisd4a/01%20CLEAN.xlsx?dl=0

Screenshot from Office365: 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ws8rr3mj6juouuo/01Clean_Office365.png?dl=0
Screenshot from LibreOffice 3.6.7.2 (query): 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/00xnspejrrk1nfd/01CleanLibO-query3672.png?dl=0
Screenshot from LibreOffice 3.6.7.2 (matrix with indirect): 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h5qtxf6ji9u71n2/01CleanLibO-indirect3672.png?dl=0


Best,
Marina

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[Libreoffice-qa] Windows dev please evaluate my ProposedEasyHack

2015-01-27 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 05:00:19PM +, Michael Meeks wrote:
 * Pending Action Items:
 + please file an Easy-Hack this week: just a bug with whiteboard: (All)
 EasyHack DifficultyBeginner SkillCpp TopicCleanup
 + thanks to:
 + Stephan, Michael, Lionel, Ashdod
 + http://bit.ly/1DTbesP

An easy way to do that would be to evaluate
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56904
which is Windows-specific, so I don't really have a clue how to do it
and what it entails, but I expect it is rather easy if one already
knows one's way around msi (Windows Installer) files and how we
generate them.

Is it easy enough for EasyHack? Can you outline to the lucky winner
that will pick it up how to do it?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Windows dev please evaluate my ProposedEasyHack

2015-01-27 Thread Andras Timar
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Lionel Elie Mamane lio...@mamane.lu wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 05:00:19PM +, Michael Meeks wrote:
 * Pending Action Items:
 + please file an Easy-Hack this week: just a bug with whiteboard: (All)
 EasyHack DifficultyBeginner SkillCpp TopicCleanup
 + thanks to:
 + Stephan, Michael, Lionel, Ashdod
 + http://bit.ly/1DTbesP

 An easy way to do that would be to evaluate
 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56904
 which is Windows-specific, so I don't really have a clue how to do it
 and what it entails, but I expect it is rather easy if one already
 knows one's way around msi (Windows Installer) files and how we
 generate them.

 Is it easy enough for EasyHack? Can you outline to the lucky winner
 that will pick it up how to do it?

IMHO hacking MSI is not easy by any means. It's probably easy only for
an installer expert. I'd add the AccessDatabaseEngine.exe to a
CustomAction and call this CustomAction in the install sequence. It
may work. But why add a 25MB 3rd party package to LibreOffice, which
will benefit a tiny fraction of users? We don't even bundle Java,
which has a wider audience. I think it's enough to add a paragraph to
help, with the link to this MS download page.

Best regards,
Andras
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