Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bacchanaly around Bug 81041
Hi Urmas, I'm not going to discuss the content of the bug itself. I'd like to discuss some other things: First of all: thanks for just bringing this to the list, instead of play cat and mouse in Bugzilla which result in a huge spam. Secondly, I'm not sure how you even can ask for an official reply on an email where hard working volunteers and our total community are called/questioned as morons and faggots. Kind regards, Joren Op 30-07-14 om 19:38 schreef Urmas: Interesting things happen in LO QA community. Instead of reading 4.3 release notes, as an adequate person would, Jay Philips in comment 15 starts being rude (and authoritative) to me, which I —knowing about the dreck open source generally attracts— can look over; but than he snitches me over to the moderator, which is unacceptable. Fistly, is that 'person' going to excuse itself?, Secondly, I would like to get an official response: is LO a project where the adequate and sane people work, and it is safe for normal people to interact with, or is it some Gnome-like community of 1½ faggots in a circle? Providing a reputation of LO as a commercial-grade professional software, I would like to receive some explanations about faggots and snitches in its public-faced parts being the QA community. Thanks. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] is fdo#81113 a release blocker for 4.3.0?
Hi David, Thanks for bringing this to the mailinglists. op 16-07-14 16:01, David Tardon schreef: Hi all, Any opinions on $SUBJECT? The bug has got importance highest/critical; unfortunately it was triaged a day too late... Note that this is just one possible manifestation of the problem: the same misdetection (and failure to open the file) can happen whenever a remote file is opened. It depends on whether the file is detected before the Keynote filter is tried. I had a little chat with David in the IRC: (16:46:17) jorendc: dtardon: what file formats are affected do you think? (16:46:29) jorendc: dtardon: depending on that it might be a blocker or not (IMHO) (16:47:00) dtardon: jorendc, i have no idea. any that would come after keynote during the detection (16:47:28) jorendc: dtardon: is there a chronological list where I can see what comes after keynote detection? (16:48:27) dtardon: jorendc, no, there isn't (16:49:29) jorendc: dtardon: okay, I see. But I assume all ODF and other common file formats (OOXML,...) are non affected? I'm struggling about how many users'd be affected. (16:49:46) jorendc: And the fact we still advice to use 4.3.0 version for testing purpose (16:49:55) jorendc: (very) early adopters (16:50:05) dtardon: jorendc, these should be well before that Little summary: * As far I understand _most common_ file formats are not affected * We clearly state that point .0 versions are for testing/(very) early adopters only. As far I'm concerned: don't block the release of 4.3.0 but make sure it is in 4.3.1. Kind regards, Joren ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] New Whiteboard Statuses
Hi Xisco, *, Xisco Faulí schreef op 5/06/2014 10:32: does it make sense to include another status for the regression issues where the problematic commit has been identified ? I'm asking it because yesterday I spent some time on this task and I could chase down two regressions, one of them made by a Collabora developer ( I've already sent him an email ) and the other by a merged AOO commit. I'm not sure about this. If you did track the bug down to a single commit (or developer), I think the keyword 'regression' + whiteboard 'bibisected' + a ping on IRC/CC or email to the particular developer is the best way. I think having the commit range, clear step-by-step actions, good summary/title and prioritizing is the most important in that case. I'm quite sure a developer who's willing to hunt down a regression will see the comment pointing towards a particular bug. Especially if you comment on it and place him/her in CC at once. Kind regards, Joren ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] New Whiteboard Statuses
Hi, Jay Philips schreef op 5/06/2014 4:45: I think it might be a good idea to include the following whiteboard keywords - HasDebug or HasBacktrace HasStrace - When the bug reporter or commenter has included the backtrace or strace output, so devs can easily see this list I didn't invent it, but we have a keyword with 'have-backtrace' for this purpose. Kind regards, Joren ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] New Whiteboard Statuses
Hi Kohei, Kohei Yoshida schreef op 5/06/2014 15:06: So, to me personally, this practice of witch-hunting (or finger-pointing) really bogs me down, especially I receive such notice hundreds of times during a typical development cycle. Well, that's at least not what I'm talking about right now. (1) we (I) are (am) only talking about bugs we can track down to 1 single commit or developer. Not a developer in general by component (writer, calc, ...), which we do now to try to avoid as much as possible. I'm not sure that there are that many QA'ers or reporters which can track down to 1 single developer/commit? I'm not a developer at all and just to provide me an idea: do you still receive that much CC's on bugs compared to months/a year ago? (2) we discussed this yesterday on the QA-call too. Our conclusion was to just kindly ping a developer in particular on IRC. (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2014/June_04#Topics_for_ESC.3F) If not I still am 'pro' an active approach and mail the particular developer (in private) or put him/her in CC. (3) and as far my experience concerns... I already know which developers are and are not open for a nice (not pointing, just asking) SINGLE message. I think other core QA members do have such experience too. Since statistically every change one makes can and will cause *some* regressions in some obscure corners, this disadvantages those who make lots of changes, even when those changes are to fix other regressions and bugs. True, but luckely not all regression cases are 'obscure' and border cases. And some of these sometimes escalate to a (often repeated) demand of a revert of the commit, which is another blow especially when the change itself took weeks and weeks of careful coding to get conceived. One can be as careful as possible, and still (and almost always) break somethign somewhere. Again: true. But we are not talking about: bug the particular developer as much as possible, if he doesn't react/revert/fix spam his email and IRC with threats to revert that commit ... I think we have to find the most constructive approach to get a regression bug fixed, with respect to the situation (developer, commit message, ...) and severity. Kind regards, Joren ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] New Whiteboard Statuses
Joel Madero schreef op 5/06/2014 17:26: Ah I didn't see that. We should change it to camel case to be consistent. HaveBacktrace. Will include on whiteboard page. Just to be sure: have-backtrace is a keyword and our key words are not camel-cased ;-). We may want to consider to make it more consistent if we have our own bugzilla instance :-)? Cheers, Joren ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Image Upload Problem with Bugzilla
Hi Jay, Jay Philips schreef op 26/04/2014 13:52: Everytime i upload a jpg or png on bugzilla, i have to go back into the file and change it mime type. Is this supposed to be like this? Sadly we are aware of this. We already did report it to FDO, but it is not fixed yet. If I'm correct this only happens when you attach the image/document at the creation of the bug itself, using the form at freedesktop (not our own BSA). Some devs and QA members are working hard to set up our own bugzilla. If done, we can hopefully have a look ourself. Kind regards, Joren ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Extensive docx conversion tests...
Hi Jay and other QA volunteers, Jay Philips schreef op 22/04/2014 5:51: snip Thanks for testing LibreOffice extensively :-). Just one more hint: if you found a bug, and before you report a bug, make sure the bug is still present in our latest master version. This is the version developers are currently working on (currently that is 4.3.0). If it is still reproducible in that version, you can be 99% sure it is not fixed yet. It might happen some bugs are still reproducible using 4.2.x or older versions, but are fixed in upcoming 4.3 versions :-). You can find this master builds over here: http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/ Kind regards, Joren ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Extensive docx conversion tests...
Hi Jay, Jay Philips schreef op 26/04/2014 14:56: Hi Joren, Thanks for looking into my reports. I think we have to thank you for testing and your clean reports :-). I am testing it also on the master build, as you can see i do mention things like Tested in 4.0 - 4.3. and Regression starting in 4.2. Tested on 4.3 as well., stated that 4.3 alpha was also tested. :) Yes, my bad. I saw it afterwards too. Have a nice day, Joren ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] bibisect suggestion
Bjoern Michaelsen schreef op 21/04/14 23:57: On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 05:43:43PM -0400, Terrence Enger wrote: From the QA meeting minutes: (*) SUGGESTION: Standardization of our summary field for Bugzilla (*) Or: When searching for one phrase, display results from a similar one (e.g. image - picture or graphic) Hmm, Im uncertain as to what the goal is here and if its reachable. I did this suggestion due the fact a couple of days ago: I found a new bug report I knew it already was reported earlier (dupe). while searching for a bugs with summary 'color', I didn't found the dupe. After 5 minutes I thought about searching for 'coloUr' which showed the original bug ... So my goal was to ease a bit our search for dupes. Kind regards, Joren signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Inserting an image from an URL removes page break in LO 4.1.5.3?
Thomas Hackert schreef op 6/04/14 09:00: I copied an image from https://www.google.com.mx/search?q=solsource=lnmstbm=ischsa=Xei=R5UyU5e5OOXLsQT8rIDAAwved=0CAYQ_AUoAQbiw=1024bih=483#facrc=_imgdii=_imgrc=LqB-IrJ9puxFEM%253A%3BJ_D6dBUvsAJ5qM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fupload.wikimedia.org%252Fwikipedia%252Fcommons%252Ff%252Ff6%252FAfiche_del_sol.svg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fes.wikipedia.org%252Fwiki%252FSol%3B3880%3B2560 into Writer via context menu and selecting Paste. This neither crashes nor slows down Writer, as the bug reporter has written it in his bug description. So far, so good :) But when I deselect the image, go to Insert – Manual Break... and press Enter, I can paste the same copy of this picture on the following page in LO Version: 4.2.3.3 Build ID: 6c3586f855673fa6a1576797f575b31ac6fa0ba3 (parallel installed, following the instructions from https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel) with Germanophone lang- as well as helppack under Debian Testing i686. So far, so good, so ... ;) But if I try the same with LO Version: 4.1.5.3 Build-ID: 1c1366bba2ba2b554cd2ca4d87c06da81c05d24, it removes the page break instead ... :( Tested using Mac OSX 10.9 with LibreOffice Version: 4.1.5.3 Build ID: 1c1366bba2ba2b554cd2ca4d87c06da81c05d24 I also can reproduce a major slowdown and freezes. Also I can reproduce the fact the second pasted image removes the page break. Steps to reproduce: 1. Go to the above mentioned Gargle link 2. Rightclick on one of the images and choose Copy image (or something like that. In German, it is Grafik kopieren) 3. Open Writer 4. Rightclick in Writer and choose Paste 5. Click somewhere next to the image to deselect it 6. Go to Insert – Manual Break... 7. Press the Enter key 8. Try this in 4.1.5.3 as well as 4.2.3.3. You will see, that in 4.2.3.3 the page break will still be there after inserting the image on the second side. In LO 4.1.5.3 this page break will vanish ... :( Confirmed, in 4.2.3.3 the page break retains. Can someone confirm it with a different OS/architecture or even in an older version of LO? Does anybody know, if this is already reported? Or should I add this as a comment to bug #76624?? Not sure this is already reported, but I'm not sure reporting a bug for LibreOffice 4.1-branch is worth it. If we find/bibisect the commit that fixed this issue, it may not be backportable to upcoming EOL version 4.1.6. Also it _might_ be fixed thanks to the fix of bug 52547 (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52547) Kind regards, Joren ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call 2014-01-09
Markus Mohrhard schreef op 15/01/14 12:49: You can help by fixing the crashes or validation errors. Additionally there are a number of scripting tasks to make the information a bit pretty. I did make a little python stats script that can display the total number of passers/crashers per mimetype, that is parsed to csv format. Easy to open using LibreOffice (of course ;-) ) and do some calculations/visualization on it. I guess that's already a good starting point for stats, but sadly I don't have time to develop it any further next month or so (exams, master thesis, ...). IMHO it makes no sense to treat them as normal bugs or check the bug reports. The bug numbers in there are just part of the name of the file. It does not mean that they have any relations to the bug report. From my point of view the crash testing is more a developer tool that we use similar to unit tests to improve quality. From a QA perspective I think you can just enjoy the numbers and the improved quality. True. For a non-developer, but QA volunteer, I am only interested in the numbers. (trend per mimetype, and general trend). Kind regards, Joren ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Welcome screen help button redirects to wrong page
Alex Thurgood schreef op 13/12/13 19:37: Hi, This may have already been noticed, but has anyone noticed that current master builds of 4.2 , when clicking on the Welcome screen on startup of LO, point to : http://www.libreoffice.org/ Corresponding bug report: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72420 Kind regards, Joren ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Base Show stopper in LibreOffice 4.2 Beta2
Dan Lewis schreef op 13/12/13 23:16: I just filed a bug, but I was not given a number for it. Running a search query (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advancedemailreporter1=1list_id=374629email1=elderdanlewis%40gmail.comproduct=LibreOfficeemailtype1=substring) result in this bug: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72696 I have a database three tables that are related. Table A has a foreign key linked to the primary key of Table B. Table B has a foreign key linked to the primary key of Table C. I created a form containing these three tables and added data to it. Normally, when you change the visible record of Table B, the visible records for Table A should also change. They do when using 4.1.4.1, but for 4.2 Beta2, they don't. Kind regards, Joren ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Math] Clicking in Formular does not let the cursor change its position in the main part
Thomas Hackert schreef op 8/12/13 18:24: . If I copy this formular to Math, then click on the formular in the main window, I cannot see the cursor jumping to its corresponding position ... :( Is it only on my system? Or can anyone else with a different OS/architecture confirm this? Or is this an error in the test description? Tested using: Mac OSX 10.9 with LibreOffice Version: 4.2.0.0.beta2 Build ID: 1a27be92e320f97c20d581a69ef1c8b99ea9885d I see a blinking cursor in the edit-window, nicely where I clicked in the main window. So I can not reproduce this behavior. Kind regards, Joren ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla Migration: Abbreviation to replace fdo#12345
Robinson Tryon schreef op 1/12/13 19:31: Well...looks like it's time to take a vote :P Voting Rules: * Please vote for as many of the listed choices as you like (Approval Voting) * Per our discussion, I'm reserving 'tdf' for future use * If there's no clear winner, we can have a run-off Here's the list (in alphabetical order): * blo No * lbz Yes * libo Yes * lo No * lob Yes * lobz Yes If I only can make 1 vote: libo Kind regards, Joren ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Fantastic Work QA Team :)
Joel Madero schreef op 24/11/13 18:04: Hi All, Last week I sent out an email congratulating the team for getting the bug count down to 1,1,24 unconfirmed bugs (this was down nearly 100 in just a couple weeks). Well, thanks to some incredible effort by members of the team, we're now down to 987 bugs - in just 3 days (yes, 3) we've dropped the number by nearly 150 bugs. We've also handled a ton of the really old unconfirmed bugs which is great. To visualize this spectacular drop: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/reports.cgi?product=LibreOfficedatasets=UNCONFIRMED Nice work team! Kind regards, Joren ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Triage Contest - Quick Chat Wed if possible?
Op 17-06-13 18:15, Joel Madero schreef: Hi All, I'd like to have a chat (either IRC or google hangout + talkyoo) before the triage contest if possible. If possible please do +1, 1330-1400 start time works best for me and I suspect it'll be real quick (30 minutes). Just want to make sure we're on the same page and what not - I also want to get a gauge to see if we'll have coverage in the chat quite a bit. Let me know if possible. +1, big chance I can be present :) Kind regards, Joren ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bug sur Nouveau dans le BSA français!
Btw, this was just a test message Rob send. No worries, this list will not be spammed with French emails :-). Kind regards, Joren Op 6/06/13 22:43, q...@fr.libreoffice.org schreef: Bonjour, Il y a une nouvelle soumission de bug déposée en français. L'un d'entre vous peut-il le confirmer ou le traduire pour nous. Composant: Classeur Version: 4.1.0.0.beta1 Keywords: Sujet: CONFIGURATION: teset Description longue: Description du problème : Ã0/00tapes pour reproduire : 1. âEUR¦test 2. âEUR¦ 3. âEUR¦ Comportement actuel : Comportement attendu : Système d'exploitation: Windows XP Version: 4.1.0.0.beta1 Merci de nous aider, BSA ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] classifying bugs
Hi José, First of all welcome! José Guilherme Vanz schreef op 29/05/13 14:39: Hello, Folks! I was trying testing and simulating some bugs there are in the bugzilla and a doubt appeared. When can we set bug status for confirmed? Who do it? Great! Thanks for that. As an answer to your question: if you were able to confirm the mentioned behavior and you can't find duplicates around, you can set the bug status to 'NEW' for sure :-). Just make sure all required info is there, so others (and developers) can reproduce it to (like detailed steps, mentioned files/attachments are available, ...). Maybe a bit overwhelming when you first read the info in following links, but it'll be of great help for sure: * https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport * https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugTriage#Details_of_Steps If you have other questions, please don't hesitate :-). Feel free to join us also at #libreoffice-qa (http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=libreoffice-qa). I really enjoy my time there, with nice people and if you have questions related to a bug report we can help you right away. Nice to meet you :-) Kind regards, Joren ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Meta tracker for Sidebar feature created
Hi, I create a meta tracker for all bugs related to the new sidebar feature. See: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65138 Although this is still an experimental feature, we can test it to gather bugs related to this feature. To enable it: * Open LibreOffice * Tools Options LibreOffice Advanced * Check Enable experimental sidebar (on restart) * Restart LibreOffice * Open Writer for example * View Sidebar Kind regards, Joren ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA for GSoC project
Hi there, Cao Cuong Ngo schreef op 28/05/13 16:15: Hi all, I've been selected in GSoC this year, project Extend Support for Content Management Systems. First of all Welcome! I'm glad you choose LibreOffice. I will implement the connection to Google Drive and properties/version dialog extension of CMIS. It would be great if someone can volunteer and spend sometimes to help testing my future feature . Pretty important for me and others: what are the requirements to test this (future) feature? I assume a Google account (with Google Drive) is one of (and only?) the major requirements here? I'm surely willing to test, and I'm sure I'm not the only one here. I have Linux (Mint) and Mac OSX to test/build on. If you finished some work that require testing, I think it'll be good to explain us what to test, and how to test. Good luck with this nice project! Kind regards, Joren ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Fwd: User Ideas page to collect and vote on ideas
Forwarded message: Hi all, I'm noticing many duplicates and invalid bugs in the bug tracker and keep thinking how we can get a grip on that. Having better organization would be essential to keep the bug tracker clean. So for user suggestions about new features I am suggesting to create an ideas page similar to * Sibelius: http://sibelius.ideascale.com/ * Path Finder: http://feedback.cocoatech.com/forums/275-path-finder-ideas That would be a good way to let users participate in a voting process and have them contribute the craziest ideas without cluttering the bug tracker. Every 2 months or so QA could go over that ideas page and see what get's the most votes (let's not digress into the votes discussion ;) ) or delete invalid ideas with a short comment. I think that could improve the bug tracker situation and prevent us from wasting precious time. Also the users are challenged more to present their ideas in a nice fashion so they gather more votes. What do you think? Best, steve signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ABANDONED] Restore menu File Template
Op 4/03/13 23:58, Thorsten Behrens schreef: [new template dialog problems in 4.0.0] Cor Nouws wrote: Anyway's: , for the open bugs, https://bugs.freedesktop.org/query.cgi?component=filters%20and%20storagecomponent=frameworkcomponent=Libreofficecomponent=UIcomponent=Writerorder=bug_idproduct=LibreOfficequery_format=advancedquery_type=advancedshort_desc=templateshort_desc_type=allwordssubstrversion=4.0.0.0.alpha1version=4.0.0.0.beta1version=4.1.0.0.alpha0%2B%20Masterversion=4.0.0.0.beta2version=4.0.0.1%20rcversion=4.0.0.2%20rcversion=4.0.0.3%20releaseversion=4.0.1.1%20rcversion=4.0.1.2%20rc Hi Cor, thx for the look into that - as a first question (Cc QA list), is this list triaged enough for hackers to start poking at high-prio issues? I'll try to have a closer look, and will try to get through the list by the end of this week. I'm not that familiar with templates, so I'll try to discuss a bit with other QA members (IRC-channel and Cor of course) regarding this topic. Kind regards, Joren ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Accepting can't open-bugs even if original program fails?
Hi, I saw following bug passing by: FILEOPEN: Opening a large (19MB) XLSX file very slow https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61721 It is reproducible. Opening that (huge) document takes a lot of time (after 5 minutes it didn't open yet on my MacOSX 10.8.2 both LibreOffice 4.0.1.2 and master). Opening the same file using Excel (for mac) result in same behavior (also force quit it after 5 minutes). Should I mark this bug as NEW, because I can reproduce that very slow behavior? Or close it because it also can't open correctly using the (probably) original office suite that is used to create this file? This is only one example, I think there are other examples somewhere in FDO. Kind regards, Joren ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] What are the requirements to set a bug to NEW
Hi Robert, Op 10-02-13 12:07, Robert Großkopf schreef: Hi *, I 'm just looking for some bugs in Base. There I found bugs declared as NEW, where nobody else but the report had made a comment and nothing is to see in the history about anybody, who has switched the report to NEW. This bug I have set to Needinfo. Was set to New. Could only be set to New by the reporter. Indeed, following the 'history' https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_activity.cgi?id=60217 it's set to NEW when it was submitted. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60217 I thought there must be someone, who could confirm the bug - not only the reporter. Or could we confirm our bug by ourselves? Also correct; It's not the right workflow to 'confirm' your own bugs. Only (core) developers (or very experienced QA members) can set a bug to NEW without confirmation. Unless they are looking for a 'second opinion'/independent confirmation. You did good to set the bug status to NEEDINFO because there is not enough info to confirm this bug. The problem with this kind of bugs is that: when someone set the bug status to NEW or RESOLVED WORKSFORME, we can't set it back to UNCONFIRMED (because the system mark it intern as 'ever reproduced = 1'). I also see that this bug is reported directly to FDO. With our BSA, where most people and end users report a bug, isn't this easy/possible anymore to set your bug while submitting to NEW (unless they browse afterwards to their own bug, log in to FDO and set it as NEW). Thanks for this cache, and you did great and correct :-). Kind regards, Joren ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
