Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugs with assignee but status NEW

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Hi,

I did some emphasis on QA-FAQ
.

I found out that currently we have more than 300 bugs with assignee but 
status UNCONFIRMED or NEW  [1], most assigned to
cedric.bosdonnat@free.fr,  tbehr...@suse.com, r...@novell.com, 
nopo...@novell.com,  vmik...@suse.cz   [2]


That is not a big problem, but inconsistent. I am not a fan of mass 
changes, but could assignees please unify the properties in these bugs 
"by the fly" when they stumble upon them and


+ change Stauts to "Assigned" if they are planning to work on the bugs
or
+ reassign to list?

Especially for bugs where we did not have any change since more than 1/4 
year [3] my suspect is that "Assignee" entry is inappropriate and only 
might discourage other volunteers



Best Regards

Rainer


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugs with assignee but status NEW

[Kohei Yoshida]

On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Rainer Bielefeld <
libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de> wrote:

>
> Actually, I could go a step further and change the assignee of these
>> bugs with status NEW to the default assignee to further remove
>> ambiguity,
>>
>
>
> It was the the core of my question whether you wanted to have those Bug in
> some kind of abeyance between NEW and ASSIGNED. I think currently we do it
> so that bugs with Status ASSIGNED always have an assignee different from <
> libreoffice-b...@lists.freedesktop.org>, and un-ASSIGNED have the default
> assignee. So - if we do not see concerns here - I would appreciate to
> follow your suggestion to  change to the  default assignees of the not
> fixed Bugs in the query. That might encourage volunteers to engage.
>

Ok. I just reset the assignee of those bugs (those that are assigned to me
with status NEW) to the default assignee.  Now they are totally in line
with the current workflow (I hope).

Also, FYI, I do track my bugs of interest using different methods other
than the assignee field, so this change won't affect me at all.

Best,

Kohei
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugs with assignee but status NEW

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Kohei Yoshida schrieb:


No, those bugs were assigned to me originally by someone else, as part
of the very old workflow.  I had no plan to work on them in the first
place.


Hi Kohei,

yes, you are completely right, those assignations were a legacy, and 
it's a useful clearing up for those bugs to change the status if you do 
not plan to work on them in near future.



Actually, I could go a step further and change the assignee of these
bugs with status NEW to the default assignee to further remove
ambiguity,


It was the the core of my question whether you wanted to have those Bug 
in some kind of abeyance between NEW and ASSIGNED. I think currently we 
do it so that bugs with Status ASSIGNED always have an assignee 
different from , and un-ASSIGNED 
have the default assignee. So - if we do not see concerns here - I would 
appreciate to follow your suggestion to  change to the  default 
assignees of the not fixed Bugs in the query. That might encourage 
volunteers to engage.


Without new arguments here I will add some more precise hints in the 
Wiki on monday.


Thanks and best regards


Rainer
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugs with assignee but status NEW

[Kohei Yoshida]

On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 4:35 AM, Rainer Bielefeld <
libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de> wrote:

> Hi Kohei,
>
> I see that you changed status of several bugs [1] with you as assignee
> from status ASSIGNED to NEW.
>
> My interpretation is that you are intending to do some work on it, but
> currently that particular Bug is far at the end of your priority list and
> you are not planning activity in nearby future?
>

No, those bugs were assigned to me originally by someone else, as part of
the very old workflow.  I had no plan to work on them in the first place.
I changed them to NEW because we all agreed that if the status is NEW, the
assignee is not necessarily working on the bug and people are free to grab
it.  ASSIGNED status may give people the false impression that the assignee
is currently working on the bug or plan to work on it some time in the
future, which is not the case with these bugs.

Please leave a brief note here concerning your intentions, and may be we
> should leave a note in the Wiki at QA/BugTriage [1], How to Report Bugs in
> LibreOffice [3] or similar to avoid unnecessary ambiguity and checking ups
> in the bugs?
>

Nah. As far as I know, in the current workflow, we don't assign a bug to
anyone unless someone voluntarily assigns it to him or herself.  What I did
is nothing new in the scope of the current QA workflow.

Actually, I could go a step further and change the assignee of these bugs
with status NEW to the default assignee to further remove ambiguity, and
make it in line with the current workflow. That may be more appropriate.

The only thing I could see added in the above wiki page is perhaps mention
what the ASSIGNED status may mean.

Kohei
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[Libreoffice-qa] Bugs with assignee but status NEW

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Hi Kohei,

I see that you changed status of several bugs [1] with you as assignee 
from status ASSIGNED to NEW.


My interpretation is that you are intending to do some work on it, but 
currently that particular Bug is far at the end of your priority list 
and you are not planning activity in nearby future?


Please leave a brief note here concerning your intentions, and may be we 
should leave a note in the Wiki at QA/BugTriage [1], How to Report Bugs 
in LibreOffice [3] or similar to avoid unnecessary ambiguity and 
checking ups in the bugs?



Best Regards

Rainer




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