Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Second Opinion Needed
Hi Joel, All, This issue has bugged me for a while in both gedit and libreoffice, especially as i have autosave running every minute. But the benefits it has brought have over weighed the negatives in the last week or so, as i've been working in calc on stats for my toolbar proposal [bug 81475] and calc has crashed pretty much everyday on general stuff like undo, sorting, pasting, editing a cell, etc. Unfortunately, most of these are not reproducible, so i havent been able to submit bug reports. So i've gotten use to pressing backspace when keys that i've typed have not been entered because its autosaving. If i could suggest how this could be impoved, i would suggest that after the autosave time has run out, LibO waits for the user to stop typing (e.g. user hasnt pressed a key in 1 or 2 seconds) and then autosave. Of course if the user hasnt stopped typing in 10% of the autosave time, it should autosave anyway. Just another 2 cents. Regards, Jay Philips On 07/22/2014 08:19 AM, Joel Madero wrote: > I have closed this bug twice as NOTABUG but the user does not agree so > requesting second opinion: > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81627 > > > Thanks > > > Best, > Joel > > ___ > List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list > Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org > Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ > ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Second Opinion Needed
Couldn't agree more with Nino's answer. If people are loosing data (i.e. typed words while not looking at the screen) then there is a problem. It is NOT a BUG but it is clearly a LIMITATION. It must be possible to save in the background while input continues... Obviously the words typed since Autorecover starts will only be included in the next Autorecover... It should be changed to Enhancement instead of closing as NOTABUG Just my 2 cents... -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-Second-Opinion-Needed-tp4116303p4116337.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Second Opinion Needed
Am 22.07.2014 06:19, schrieb Joel Madero: > I have closed this bug twice as NOTABUG but the user does not agree so > requesting second opinion: > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81627 Here comes a third opinion ... ;-) It clearly *is* a bug as it clearly works "against" the user. If the software is designed to work against the user, then it is not a bug. But I don't believe, that LibreOffice is designed to work that bad! Therefore, please reopen the bug. If you like, you may call it an enhencement request, because this "design bug" has not been thought of until now. But now it has come up and therefore needs to be acknoledged. As it clearly is "unwanted behavior", the classification "NOTABUG" is clearly the wrongest possible decision. Sorry, my 2 cents. Nino ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Second Opinion Needed
Sorry to be long-winded. I am too tired to write shorter. On Mon, 2014-07-21 at 21:19 -0700, Joel Madero wrote: > I have closed this bug twice as NOTABUG but the user does not agree so > requesting second opinion: > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81627 That report is "FILESAVE: Keystrokes/characters typed while AutoRecovery/Autosave happens aren't registered". When I first saw that behaviour, it impressed me as a bug. It is particularly annoying in two circumstances: (1) Typing without looking at the screen. Yes, some of us still do that, and for good reasons. (2) Working in a large document on an overtaxed computer. It is not that I create large documents; rather it is useful to make notes while working through some else's document. For example, autosave can make me wait over a minute just to type "Yup, that works" somewhere in the 587 pages of Andrew Pitonyak's "OpenOffice.org Macros Explained" . As for the ODF specification ... it is beyond thinking about. The suggested workaround of turning off autosave applies, I think, to everything you do in LibreOffice, not to one document. So, it is more drastic than one would wish. Perhaps a compromise disposition would be to accept the report as a Request For Enhancement. But then we get immediately into the questions: How responsive should the UI be during an autosave? At what cost in programming effort? At what cost in machine usage, remembering that we want a solution for Win too? If LibreOffice merely saves keystrokes for processing after completion of the autosave, the result could be more confusing than the existing situation. I wish I had a clear opinion to offer. I am beginning to remember why I never got around to filing that RFE . Terry. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Second Opinion Needed
I have closed this bug twice as NOTABUG but the user does not agree so requesting second opinion: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81627 Thanks Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
