Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 'free' testing on Moztrap
Hi Yifan, Le 20/02/2014 04:54, Yifan Jiang a écrit : Hi Sophie, I probablly didn't get the background clear here. Sorry if I disturb your thinking :) In Moztrap, when mark a step failed, there's an option to a bugzilla link, see: http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/results/case/1559/ Does it work for your situation if the reporter pastes the bugzilla link (where the attachment appears) back to Moztrap test case? Yes it works, and several testers use it, that's a great feature when you understand Bugzilla and write in English fluently. But I would like Moztrap to be accessible to all, even for QA beginners. What I miss the most for the moment (out of l10n ;) is a way to contact the tester. MozTrap shows only the user name but no way contact him, so if I need more information to open a bug based on his feedback, it's not easy. Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 'free' testing on Moztrap
Hi Sophie, Ah, I just got your role updating in Moztrap from test manager to admin (Sorry I should have noticed that). So you may probably see more user information from the management interface Manage - Users. Moztrap registration needs email activate before usable for test, so I guess most of the emails should be activated. Does it partly resolve the problem? :) Best wishes, Yifan On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 10:45:25AM +0100, Sophie Gautier wrote: Hi Yifan, Le 20/02/2014 04:54, Yifan Jiang a écrit : Hi Sophie, I probablly didn't get the background clear here. Sorry if I disturb your thinking :) In Moztrap, when mark a step failed, there's an option to a bugzilla link, see: http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/results/case/1559/ Does it work for your situation if the reporter pastes the bugzilla link (where the attachment appears) back to Moztrap test case? Yes it works, and several testers use it, that's a great feature when you understand Bugzilla and write in English fluently. But I would like Moztrap to be accessible to all, even for QA beginners. What I miss the most for the moment (out of l10n ;) is a way to contact the tester. MozTrap shows only the user name but no way contact him, so if I need more information to open a bug based on his feedback, it's not easy. Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ -- Yifan Jiang SUSE Desktop, Libreoffice /SUSE Contact: yifan - irc.freenode.net/libreoffice = http://www.libreoffice.org/ http://www.documentfoundation.org/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 'free' testing on Moztrap
Hi, Le 19/02/2014 16:43, mariosv a écrit : El 19/02/14 15:37, sophi [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] escribió: Hi all, I'm still reviewing the test we have in Moztrap and increasing them. Because of the amount of bugs we had on Calc, we discussed about 'free' tests on Moztrap where the tester just test one of his document and report in Moztrap what's work/fail. Unfortunately, it will be impossible for me to track the feedback in case of failures and make a report on BZ based on it. I can't reach the tester and I won't be able to reproduce with no clear steps and expected results. Have you some suggestions on how that testing could be made possible? Cheers Sophie ___ Hi Sphie, all. In my point of view, link in Moztrap to BZ samples files good for test. I think in this way could be easy in the future if one test fails, track their bug, reopen it, contact developer who patch it, etc. With a minimal expense of disk space, avoiding file duplication. We are green :-)?. Maybe better invest the time in make easier report bugs. Moztrap is done for people who are not able or who have no time to do more QA, and also is supposed to be for non English speakers in the future. Although may be it's possible to separate the tests, I'm not sure if it's the best to tied it to BZ for beginners or occasional testers in several languages. Thinking around, could be possible use bugzilla, specially when it will be in our administration, for have the test in it. It's a knowed administration, easy for search, for use as reference from bug reports, much more visibility when publish, one place less to administrate. I don't know but I think merits for take a think about. It's a good idea, but in my opinion separated from MozTrap which should stay a simple tool to participate in testing over regressions. Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 'free' testing on Moztrap
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:43 AM, mariosv mari...@miguelangel.mobi wrote: In my point of view, link in Moztrap to BZ samples files good for test. I think in this way could be easy in the future if one test fails, track their bug, reopen it, contact developer who patch it, etc. With a minimal expense of disk space, avoiding file duplication. We are green :-)?. Maybe better invest the time in make easier report bugs. I agree that better integration between the tests (MozTrap) and the bug tracker (Bugzilla) would be very helpful. Sophie - When we ask a user to test one of their own documents, would it be possible for us to directly link from the testing page to Bugzilla/the BSA so that for a failing test, we could capture information re: - The user - The particular failing test - The document (via upload in the bug report) ?? This would probably require us to hack on the BSA and fix it so that variables would be passed-in correctly, but perhaps that would be the strongest and simplest solution here... Thinking around, could be possible use bugzilla, specially when it will be in our administration, for have the test in it. It's a knowed administration, easy for search, for use as reference from bug reports, much more visibility when publish, one place less to administrate. I don't know but I think merits for take a think about. +1 to richer integration! Cheers, --R ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 'free' testing on Moztrap
Hi Sophie, I probablly didn't get the background clear here. Sorry if I disturb your thinking :) In Moztrap, when mark a step failed, there's an option to a bugzilla link, see: http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/results/case/1559/ Does it work for your situation if the reporter pastes the bugzilla link (where the attachment appears) back to Moztrap test case? Best wishes, Yifan On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 03:37:14PM +0100, Sophie Gautier wrote: Hi all, I'm still reviewing the test we have in Moztrap and increasing them. Because of the amount of bugs we had on Calc, we discussed about 'free' tests on Moztrap where the tester just test one of his document and report in Moztrap what's work/fail. Unfortunately, it will be impossible for me to track the feedback in case of failures and make a report on BZ based on it. I can't reach the tester and I won't be able to reproduce with no clear steps and expected results. Have you some suggestions on how that testing could be made possible? Cheers Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ -- Yifan Jiang SUSE Desktop, Libreoffice /SUSE Contact: yifan - irc.freenode.net/libreoffice = http://www.libreoffice.org/ http://www.documentfoundation.org/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
