[Bug 161502] Calc: change Structure label of Function Wizard dialog

2024-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161502

ady  changed:

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[Bug 161502] Calc: change Structure label of Function Wizard dialog

2024-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161502

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Resolution|--- |FIXED
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED

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[Bug 161516] Label "Compare Document…" menu (and toolbars menu items) action more clearly, to indicate comparison direction

2024-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161516

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   Keywords||needsUXEval

--- Comment #1 from Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 
 ---
I agree this is confusing and is an issue that needs resolving.

(In reply to Jeff Fortin Tam from comment #0)
> "Compare Document with a Previous Version…"
> (if that's indeed what it does)
I feel like using terms that relate to recency or relative age is not the right
solution. A user might be comparing their version of a document with another
person's version, with diverging histories but no clear "before" and "after".

The help[1] does use "newer" vs "older":

> You should always start with opening the newer document and compare it with 
> the
> older document.

Maybe using a term like "reference" or "base" would be better?

But really, I feel like this feature should have an intermediate step that lets
the user choose which document is the base and which one is compared to the
base, because the current UX is very, very poor:

1. open base document
2. compare
3. see that direction is wrong
4. close document
5. open modified document
6. compare, now in the right direction

UX/Design team, opinions? Band-aid relabel, or more involved (but possibly a
interesting easyHack) intermediate step?

[1]:
https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-US/text/shared/guide/redlining_doccompare.html

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[Bug 161502] Calc: change Structure label of Function Wizard dialog

2024-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161502

--- Comment #5 from Commit Notification 
 ---
Bayram Çiçek committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "libreoffice-24-8":

https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/1b88db8c1c0a92229a1998d4dcc4d5c488163f5a

tdf#161502: change Structure label of Function Wizard dialog

It will be available in 24.8.0.0.beta2.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.

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[Bug 161502] Calc: change Structure label of Function Wizard dialog

2024-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161502

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[Bug 161090] Allow specifying how many / which values are grouped in remainder of Pie-of-Pie or Bar-of-Pie chart

2024-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161090

--- Comment #2 from kurt.nordb...@protonmail.com  
---
FWIW, it appears to me that the default MSO behaviour (split type "auto") puts
the last 
ceil(n/3.0) 
entries in the right subchart.

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[Bug 161411] UI Better wording for ASCII-only characters

2024-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161411

--- Comment #7 from Tuomas Hietala  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> If we end up in a verbose label, I suggest to keep a short label and have
> the explanatory text in a tooltip.
> 
> ("aka" might become a migraine for l10n)

Not sure about the migraine, but of course if we put it in a tooltip, we could
as well write "also known as" as we wouldn't be running out of space anyway.

So perhaps something like this:
"Only Unicode 'Basic Latin' characters can be entered"

And the tooltip/explanation:
"Characters in the Unicode 'Basic Latin' block (also known as ASCII) include
the letters A-Z, a-z, numbers 0-9 and the most common punctuation marks."

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[Bug 161411] UI Better wording for ASCII-only characters

2024-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161411

--- Comment #6 from Tuomas Hietala  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #4)
> Unlike the Unicode 'Basic Latin' block, referring to ASCII is a problem as
> non-standard Extended-ASCII and localized 8-bit character mappings remain
> prevalent. 
> 
> And also utf-8 is broken for password entry as noted in bug 50400--that our
> SfxPasswordDialog::AllowAsciiOnly() used in pw dialogs exclusively validates
> the 7-bit 128 character ASCII code set.
> 
> That is what needs to be conveyed.
> 
> (In reply to Tuomas Hietala from comment #3)
> >...
> > * ""Only Basic Latin (a.k.a. ASCII) characters (A-Z, a-z, 0-9 and the most
> > common punctuation marks) can be entered"
> > Something for everyone?
> 
> Make that "Only Unicode 'Basic Latin' (a.k.a ASCII) characters (A-Z, a-z,
> 0-9 and the most common punctuation marks) can be entered"

Yes, that would be even more complete.

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[Bug 161441] UI: Hard to tell which side of a shape being used for as reference for rotation

2024-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161441

--- Comment #15 from Telesto  ---
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #14)
> (In reply to Telesto from comment #0)
> > UI: Hard to tell which side of a shape being used for as reference for
> > rotation 
> 
> Are you sure that is exactly the problem? See below

You're right, this isn't the core problem. FWIW: when reporting an it's always
flipping between reporting a 'solution' with a description of the problem. Or
more a description of experience without clear cut answer to the solution (and
sometimes even real clue why the experience being off)
> 
> > This rather common experience, IMHO. Lets assume some - like me - re-using a
> > shape (by copy paste) initially drawn say vertically but used horizontally.
> > The horizontal shape will have 90 degree angle. Really counter intuitive
> In itself, this is not counter-intuitive to me, nor does it matter. 

At the same time: Yes, you right and No, it does matter. Yes, you are right: It
doesn't matter as long I can archive my goal. It would have gone unnoticed if I
used the WYSWING rotation mode .uno:ClickChangeRotation. 

However I struggled to realize it exists (Draw/Impress have it; Writer does
not) and properly accessing it (see bug 161500). So I did look at sidebar ->
rotation. With the experience that a visually similar oriented shape
(rectangle) can have a 0 degree rotation or 90 degree (compare green rectangle
and red rectangle in attachment 194623). Also if you rotate the green rectangle
90 degree (right). Having 2 shapes with same rotation degree set delivering a
different result 

> problem, I would say, is with the ffect you mentioned earlier:
> 
> > the negative or positive rotation doesn't matter, until you you add
> > text to a shape
> 
> So, I would say that the meaningful issue you're pointing out is that, on
> one hand, the shapes looks the same, but on the other hand, they have
> significantly different behaviors. 

Yes

> What other behavior distinguishes the shapes other than the text block?

The rotation seen in the sidebar/dialogs.

> Because, for the text block, one could argue that once you "enter" the
> block, you see a rectangular frame for the text block itself, that lets you
> know what you can expect when typing. Please explain why that is not good
> enough.


> > Opposite happens to: copy/paste of horizontal shape rotation to vertical.
> > So horizontal shape getting angle of 90, which feels natural (to me)
> 
> I didn't understand this sentence. Nor your definition of a "horizontal
> shape". Do you mean a 2D shape for which the page-horizontal extent is
> larger than the page-vertical extent?
> 
> > A) Use one angle as basepoint (say horizontal). So vertically drawn object
> > is has automatically a 90 degree angle. No clue if this being workable
> 
> Don't quite get this either. You seem to have defined a "vertical shape" and
> a "horizontal shape", but what does it mean to be "vertically drawn"?

I sometimes have hard time expressing myself; sorry. I hope the illustration
given based on attachment 194623 helps
> 
> > B) Some visual indicator on the shape itself marking where the top side of
> > the shape is; improving the UI feedback
> 
> How would this be useful other than for knowing how the text area behaves?

Well it's suboptimal solution, IMHO. The core issue: the experience that a
visually similar oriented shape (rectangle) can have a 0 degree angle  or 90
degree angle. And follow-up on that the adjusting the angle becomes math. 
Rotate the green shape (with text) (attachment 194623) 45 degree. Now rotate
the red shape (with text), to match the green shape. I have to really think/or
use the try and error mode to conclude:315 / 135 degree. Normally I mindlessly
adjust to the same value (45 degree). Also notice that the label text is hard
to read. So you want to adjust that (already an additional step I didn't intend
to do). To conclude: there is no way to adjust the label orientation (as far I
can tell). So no need to redo you work by re-draw the rectangle, I suppose.

A (simple) rotating action which I normally perceive as something done
mindlessly becomes mind numbing, time consuming frustrating activity. The
application working against me (in my perception). 

And no it's hard to draw a rectangle with a 90 degree rotation

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[Bug 161502] Calc: change Structure label of Function Wizard dialog

2024-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161502

--- Comment #4 from Commit Notification 
 ---
Bayram Çiçek committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/9bbb02bcd7cf26b3e69e12481ffd041019d76082

tdf#161502: change Structure label of Function Wizard dialog

It will be available in 25.2.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.

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[Bug 161502] Calc: change Structure label of Function Wizard dialog

2024-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161502

Commit Notification  changed:

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[Bug 161515] Ability to cut image object in two pieces along a line

2024-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161515

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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105815
[Bug 105815] [META] Draw image bugs and enhancements
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[Bug 161441] UI: Hard to tell which side of a shape being used for as reference for rotation

2024-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161441

--- Comment #14 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---

(In reply to Telesto from comment #0)
> UI: Hard to tell which side of a shape being used for as reference for
> rotation 

Are you sure that is exactly the problem? See below

> This rather common experience, IMHO. Lets assume some - like me - re-using a
> shape (by copy paste) initially drawn say vertically but used horizontally.
> The horizontal shape will have 90 degree angle. Really counter intuitive

In itself, this is not counter-intuitive to me, nor does it matter. The
problem, I would say, is with the ffect you mentioned earlier:

> the negative or positive rotation doesn't matter, until you you add
> text to a shape

So, I would say that the meaningful issue you're pointing out is that, on one
hand, the shapes looks the same, but on the other hand, they have significantly
different behaviors. What other behavior distinguishes the shapes other than
the text block?

Because, for the text block, one could argue that once you "enter" the block,
you see a rectangular frame for the text block itself, that lets you know what
you can expect when typing. Please explain why that is not good enough.


> Opposite happens to: copy/paste of horizontal shape rotation to vertical.
> So horizontal shape getting angle of 90, which feels natural (to me)

I didn't understand this sentence. Nor your definition of a "horizontal shape".
Do you mean a 2D shape for which the page-horizontal extent is larger than the
page-vertical extent?

> A) Use one angle as basepoint (say horizontal). So vertically drawn object
> is has automatically a 90 degree angle. No clue if this being workable

Don't quite get this either. You seem to have defined a "vertical shape" and a
"horizontal shape", but what does it mean to be "vertically drawn"?

> B) Some visual indicator on the shape itself marking where the top side of
> the shape is; improving the UI feedback

How would this be useful other than for knowing how the text area behaves?


(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> Sounds to me like an artificial use case.

Disagree that drawing rectangles of various shapes and rotating them is
artificial. I mean, the reproducer is a tiny document so it's always going to
feel a bit artificial.

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[Bug 161502] Calc: change Structure label of Function Wizard dialog

2024-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161502

--- Comment #3 from Bayram Çiçek  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> Was thinking about a shorter label like "Content" or to just remove the
> label (only reason for the label is a11y).

Thank for the suggestion. I changed the label to "Content:" and uploaded a new
patch. CI is green.

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[Bug 161502] Calc: change Structure label of Function Wizard dialog

2024-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161502

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Was thinking about a shorter label like "Content" or to just remove the label
(only reason for the label is a11y).

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