[Bug 161411] UI Better wording for ASCII-only characters
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161411 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Keywords|needsUXEval |difficultyBeginner, ||easyHack, skillDesign, ||topicDesign CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda |.freedesktop.org|tion.org, ||mentoring@documentfoundatio ||n.org Ever confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze --- We discussed the topic in the design meeting. Ideas are + "Only Unicode 'Basic Latin' characters can be entered" with tooltip "Characters in the Unicode 'Basic Latin' block (also known as ASCII) including the letters A-Z, a-z, numbers 0-9 and the most common punctuation marks." + "Character not allowed. Read the help page for a list of allowed characters." + "Character not allowed, only basic Latin alphabets, numbers and punctuations can be used." + "Character not accepted" (essentially forwarding to a more explanatory help page) Code pointer: sfx2/uiconfig/ui/password.ui -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
[Bug 161411] UI Better wording for ASCII-only characters
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161411
--- Comment #7 from Tuomas Hietala ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> If we end up in a verbose label, I suggest to keep a short label and have
> the explanatory text in a tooltip.
>
> ("aka" might become a migraine for l10n)
Not sure about the migraine, but of course if we put it in a tooltip, we could
as well write "also known as" as we wouldn't be running out of space anyway.
So perhaps something like this:
"Only Unicode 'Basic Latin' characters can be entered"
And the tooltip/explanation:
"Characters in the Unicode 'Basic Latin' block (also known as ASCII) include
the letters A-Z, a-z, numbers 0-9 and the most common punctuation marks."
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[Bug 161411] UI Better wording for ASCII-only characters
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161411 --- Comment #6 from Tuomas Hietala --- (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #4) > Unlike the Unicode 'Basic Latin' block, referring to ASCII is a problem as > non-standard Extended-ASCII and localized 8-bit character mappings remain > prevalent. > > And also utf-8 is broken for password entry as noted in bug 50400--that our > SfxPasswordDialog::AllowAsciiOnly() used in pw dialogs exclusively validates > the 7-bit 128 character ASCII code set. > > That is what needs to be conveyed. > > (In reply to Tuomas Hietala from comment #3) > >... > > * ""Only Basic Latin (a.k.a. ASCII) characters (A-Z, a-z, 0-9 and the most > > common punctuation marks) can be entered" > > Something for everyone? > > Make that "Only Unicode 'Basic Latin' (a.k.a ASCII) characters (A-Z, a-z, > 0-9 and the most common punctuation marks) can be entered" Yes, that would be even more complete. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
[Bug 161411] UI Better wording for ASCII-only characters
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161411
--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze ---
If we end up in a verbose label, I suggest to keep a short label and have the
explanatory text in a tooltip.
("aka" might become a migraine for l10n)
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[Bug 161411] UI Better wording for ASCII-only characters
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161411 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added CC||vsfo...@libreoffice.org --- Comment #4 from V Stuart Foote --- Unlike the Unicode 'Basic Latin' block, referring to ASCII is a problem as non-standard Extended-ASCII and localized 8-bit character mappings remain prevalent. And also utf-8 is broken for password entry as noted in bug 50400--that our SfxPasswordDialog::AllowAsciiOnly() used in pw dialogs exclusively validates the 7-bit 128 character ASCII code set. That is what needs to be conveyed. (In reply to Tuomas Hietala from comment #3) >... > * ""Only Basic Latin (a.k.a. ASCII) characters (A-Z, a-z, 0-9 and the most > common punctuation marks) can be entered" > Something for everyone? Make that "Only Unicode 'Basic Latin' (a.k.a ASCII) characters (A-Z, a-z, 0-9 and the most common punctuation marks) can be entered" -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
[Bug 161411] UI Better wording for ASCII-only characters
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161411 --- Comment #3 from Tuomas Hietala --- Yes, "Basic Latin" is correct in the sense that it's the official name of the Unicode block. But if you don't know it's a name of a Unicode block (and I think most users don't), there's a lot of room for confusion. "ASCII" is most likely a better known term, because it's been around for longer, but the users who understand it might still be in the minority. Possible solutions could be the following: * "Only characters in Basic Latin Unicode block can be entered" The average user would be none the wiser, but at least interested users could search for "Basic Latin Unicode block" on the internet and discover what it contains. * "Only ASCII character can be entered" This would be clear for the more technically oriented users, but not so much for the rest. * "Only characters A-Z, a-z, 0-9 and the most common punctuation marks can be entered" Not an exact definition, but would give the right idea to most users, perhaps? * ""Only Basic Latin (a.k.a. ASCII) characters (A-Z, a-z, 0-9 and the most common punctuation marks) can be entered" Something for everyone? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
[Bug 161411] UI Better wording for ASCII-only characters
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161411
Heiko Tietze changed:
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--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze ---
"Basic Latin" is the name of the code block,
https://codepoints.net/basic_latin?lang=en. Not necessarily wrong if you want
to avoid the term ASCII or "A..Z,[,{...".
"Plain Latin characters" could be an alternative but I wonder if users
understand that it includes brackets, for example.
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[Bug 161411] UI Better wording for ASCII-only characters
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161411 Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) changed: What|Removed |Added CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists ||.freedesktop.org, ||samuel.mehrbrodt@allotropia ||.de Keywords||needsUXEval --- Comment #1 from Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) --- asking for UX input as well -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
