Re: GFDL license help
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Re: Blog licenses must be diverse - was Re: GFDL license help
Thank you Jean, I guess you're right. I'll do this. Thanks. On 10/04/2021 00:14, Jean Louis wrote: * Ali Reza Hayati [2021-04-09 21:20]: Hello guys. Can anybody help me with choosing a license for a blog other than Creative Commons? I want to use GNU FDL 1.3 but I'm not sure if that's fine for audio/video too. Can we use GFDL for audio and video too? If not, what copyleft license do you suggest to use, other than Creative Commons ones? Choosing a general license for one whole blog is not best idea, as you may host on your blog diverse pieces and types of text and media, each of them being licensed differently. - software, each software may have some different license, even if software is as a listing there. - instructions, such could be published under the GFDL, as people may be free to adopt, modify it; be it text, video, media, or presentation; - you could host images, or media with different licenses, so you have to consider those, for each thing specific license; you may even post copyrighted images, as there are various liberties, for example for purposes of commenting, scientific purposes, educational purposes, etc. - you can host opinions, so if it is about opinions, then you could use something like following: Verbatim Copying and Distribution Copyright © 2021 by AUTHOR. Verbatim copying and distribution of this entire article are permitted worldwide, without royalty, in any medium, provided the copyright notice, the document’s official hyperlink and this permission notice are preserved. It is not required to retain page headings and footers or other formatting features. Retention of weblinks in both hyperlinked and non-hyperlinked media (as notes or some other form of printed URL in non-HTML media) is required. Or for opinions, you would use: Creative Commons Attribution-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License as on: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/ and see example here: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html This is because opinions should not be modified, and you should protect yourself. Imagine following short statement, expanded into whole article: "Ali Reza has opinion that we shall build free culture." Now comes the website visitor, sees the GFDL, and thus modifies the article to the meaning of: "Ali Reza proposes proprietary software on all home and office desktops." That would make no sense. Opinions are personal and shall be respected as such. Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns Sign an open letter in support of Richard M. Stallman https://rms-support-letter.github.io/ -- Ali Reza Hayati (https://alirezahayati.com) Libre culture activist and privacy advocate PGP: 88A5 BDB7 E07C 39D0 8132 6412 DCB8 F138 B865 1771 OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: GFDL license help
Thank you Aaron. On 09/04/2021 23:08, Aaron Wolf wrote: In principle, you could use the GPL straight ahead and even AGPL. That would require that anyone who distributes the audio and video would actually include the source files, whatever they might be. This gets weird. Does it mean all the raw files and audio tracks and the saved sessions from editing programs? Maybe. The terms of GPL say that source is the preferred form for making changes. So, whatever form that is for you, that would be the source files for the text, audio, and video. I'm not the first to consider this, and there's something to it. I haven't explored the pros and cons of GFDL for these cases. On 2021-04-09 11:18 a.m., Ali Reza Hayati wrote: Hello guys. Can anybody help me with choosing a license for a blog other than Creative Commons? I want to use GNU FDL 1.3 but I'm not sure if that's fine for audio/video too. Can we use GFDL for audio and video too? If not, what copyleft license do you suggest to use, other than Creative Commons ones? Best. ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss -- Ali Reza Hayati (https://alirezahayati.com) Libre culture activist and privacy advocate PGP: 88A5 BDB7 E07C 39D0 8132 6412 DCB8 F138 B865 1771 OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: GFDL license help
In principle, you could use the GPL straight ahead and even AGPL. That would require that anyone who distributes the audio and video would actually include the source files, whatever they might be. This gets weird. Does it mean all the raw files and audio tracks and the saved sessions from editing programs? Maybe. The terms of GPL say that source is the preferred form for making changes. So, whatever form that is for you, that would be the source files for the text, audio, and video. I'm not the first to consider this, and there's something to it. I haven't explored the pros and cons of GFDL for these cases. On 2021-04-09 11:18 a.m., Ali Reza Hayati wrote: > Hello guys. > > Can anybody help me with choosing a license for a blog other than > Creative Commons? I want to use GNU FDL 1.3 but I'm not sure if that's > fine for audio/video too. Can we use GFDL for audio and video too? If > not, what copyleft license do you suggest to use, other than Creative > Commons ones? > > Best. > > > ___ > libreplanet-discuss mailing list > libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss > ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
GFDL license help
Hello guys. Can anybody help me with choosing a license for a blog other than Creative Commons? I want to use GNU FDL 1.3 but I'm not sure if that's fine for audio/video too. Can we use GFDL for audio and video too? If not, what copyleft license do you suggest to use, other than Creative Commons ones? Best. -- Ali Reza Hayati (https://alirezahayati.com) Libre culture activist and privacy advocate PGP: 88A5 BDB7 E07C 39D0 8132 6412 DCB8 F138 B865 1771 OpenPGP_0xDCB8F138B8651771_and_old_rev.asc Description: application/pgp-keys OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: The endless thread without benefit - Re: re. RMS
Em 07/04/2021 03:24, Danny Spitzberg escreveu: >It may be my email client or my eyes but I cannot decipher this ascii >art. Accessibility standards would implore you to please also include a >plain text translation. >[…] > / ___| _ _ _ __ _ __ ___ _ __| |_ | _ \| \/ / ___| > \___ \| | | | '_ \| '_ \ / _ \| '__| __| | |_) | |\/| \___ \ > ___) | |_| | |_) | |_) | (_) | | | |_ | _ <| | | |___) | > |/ \__,_| .__/| .__/ \___/|_| \__| |_| \_\_| |_|/ > |_| |_| > >What does this ^ say? I know that it also depends on the font size, since for example, visually impaired people (e.g.: with monocular vision) have to either use a text-to-speech software or rely on a setting to enlarge only the text font size for the entire system, which also changes how much width an email client has to decide if it will use an horizontal scroll bar or do a soft line wrap. Avoiding such arts not only helps visually impaired but also leaves more space to convey other messages. This is why I particularly don't find text art useful in text-based communications, specialy when there is a chance that a blind person is viewing it (since they have hard time understanding “:)” and “:relaxed:” since these aren't localized to their language, but “☺” is). That said, the text art says: support RMS. -- * Ativista do software livre * https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno * Membro dos grupos avaliadores de * Software (Free Software Directory) * Distribuições de sistemas (FreedSoftware) * Sites (Free JavaScript Action Team) * Não sou advogado e não fomento os não livres * Sempre veja o spam/lixo eletrônico do teu e-mail * Ou coloque todos os recebidos na caixa de entrada * Sempre assino e-mails com OpenPGP * Chave pública: vide endereço anterior * Qualquer outro pode ser fraude * Se não tens OpenPGP, ignore o anexo "signature.asc" * Ao enviar anexos * Docs., planilhas e apresentações: use OpenDocument * Outros tipos: vide endereço anterior * Use protocolos de comunicação federadas * Vide endereço anterior * Mensagens secretas somente via * XMPP com OMEMO * E-mail criptografado e assinado com OpenPGP signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: Carefully written essay asking for proportionality for rms
Em 08/04/2021 21:02, Adonay Felipe Nogueira via libreplanet-discuss escreveu: > It works here, that I can visit it with GNU LibreJS and play the video. I meant that: I *can indeed* play it even with GNU LibreJS *enabled*. -- * Ativista do software livre * https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno * Membro dos grupos avaliadores de * Software (Free Software Directory) * Distribuições de sistemas (FreedSoftware) * Sites (Free JavaScript Action Team) * Não sou advogado e não fomento os não livres * Sempre veja o spam/lixo eletrônico do teu e-mail * Ou coloque todos os recebidos na caixa de entrada * Sempre assino e-mails com OpenPGP * Chave pública: vide endereço anterior * Qualquer outro pode ser fraude * Se não tens OpenPGP, ignore o anexo "signature.asc" * Ao enviar anexos * Docs., planilhas e apresentações: use OpenDocument * Outros tipos: vide endereço anterior * Use protocolos de comunicação federadas * Vide endereço anterior * Mensagens secretas somente via * XMPP com OMEMO * E-mail criptografado e assinado com OpenPGP signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: Helping new contributors
On 09/04/2021 12:39, Jean Louis wrote: * Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss [2021-04-09 14:08]: Hi All In an effort to try and recruit and importantly help find more developers at all levels I am trying to reach out to people locally. I think what is needed here, is a clearly laid out pathway in to free software contribution using free software tools. Which software in particular? Who ever needs help So for example, a project needs to make it clear which programming languages / frameworks or skills are needed, from there we can find ways to helping learners develop those skills I would not say so, as it is not a company with limited resources. We are society and we contribute our knowledge and skills as we wish and want, thus there is no limit in our resources. That is why it is not good to say in free software projects that specific skills or programming languages are needed. Instead, welcoming everybody's contribution is better approach. This is how it was done for many years. This process then helps that some people give only suggestions, some people will donate, some will become fans and promoters, some will contribute patches, and some will enter into core development teams. Agreed My suggestions is not to say which skills or programming languages are needed. But I understand you are browsing list of programmers and wish to ask them to contribute. Then think about specific project and find yourself what is required, and try to find people that way. Ok, i think I am too used to the way people recruit for jobs, How can we take people from having some basic IT knowledge and then help them develop further, without it taking up masses of our time (unless people pay us of course) Simple. Open up computer club. Put several computers, advertise and people will come from the area to learn. Ask them to pay memberships and come as many times as they wish and want. This is great activity, I have been doing it. Well we do have the south devon tech jam which covers stem, until we can get back to meeting face to face then opportunity to promote is more limited. Then schedule programming classes. I have been teaching people already as minor. Let them teach each other, we programmed in machine language on peculiar computers, even today we do not know their names. I have same intention now, I have soon enough computers to start, some furniture and room space and people, it can work. I will inform here when it starts. It will be named GNU Free Software Club. Sounds good It would just be useful to have some sort of backing to this. I have joined DebianAcademy team to help develop materials, so they are working on a packaging course, and a few others. I created a course on LaTeX presentations, so people could contribute) Great. There are free computer courses online already on Wikiversity. Consider contributing into that database. https://www.wikiversity.org/ https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Computer Cool thanks, could be a good place to list my study support group, granted it is not all computing but there are more and more elements of computer / data science in other subjects, so basic coding is needed. If I can bring people together that will help. I am just concerned that if we insist on using fully free software tool online tools, people are not going to bother, they will however I don't bother about that, computer club will be named GNU Free Software Club and it will be clear from beginning what it is about. If they use some software at their home, it does not matter, but in the club, in physical space there will be no such. I can present an idea to people locally (Torbay, Devon), but I am under the serious impression we need to spell out EXACTLY what people are to expect and learn, rather than suggesting a general idea. For each class of knowledge you teach people different things. Please state clearly purpose of your project? By doing this ourselves, as advocates of free software, we can include links to why free software methologies are better, even if we have to be a little flexible in what we use for support and communication, Discourse my not be ideal, but would we rather people used facebook or discord? Of course not Facebook. It is very easy to establish XMPP chat, it can be on the website or by using various applications, it will work from any device. There are other free software communication packages. My support group is about respecting privacy /user freedom as much as possible. In that case how can you use Facebook as a tool? Do you know that FB data has been leaked for 522 millions? I am saying i am not going to use facebook hence I want to use discourse, irc, etc, My point is, that while discourse may not be 100 percent free software it s better than facebook. https://hyperscope.link/3/6/8/5/8/Direct-download-of-533M-Facebook-users-phone-numbers-and-personal-data-have-been-leaked-online-36858.html I just hope the EU
Helping new contributors
Hi All In an effort to try and recruit and importantly help find more developers at all levels I am trying to reach out to people locally. I think what is needed here, is a clearly laid out pathway in to free software contribution using free software tools. So for example, a project needs to make it clear which programming languages / frameworks or skills are needed, from there we can find ways to helping learners develop those skills While, rather old, this guide is still useful https://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html also resources from https://personaljournal.ca/studysupportgroup/i-am-sharing-this-here-too-as-programming-is-applicable-to-science-and-data e.g bash command line and the c book. How can we take people from having some basic IT knowledge and then help them develop further, without it taking up masses of our time (unless people pay us of course) In a way we can dictate to people our terms are they use irc / mailing list to ask questions, is that unreasonable ? Given that other providers will insist on closed platforms generally. I am trying to set up a support group for mostly science, the related discourse forum does have a computer category. https://personaljournal.ca/studysupportgroup/ It would just be useful to have some sort of backing to this. I have joined DebianAcademy team to help develop materials, so they are working on a packaging course, and a few others. I created a course on LaTeX presentations, so people could contribute) I am just concerned that if we insist on using fully free software tool online tools, people are not going to bother, they will however I can present an idea to people locally (Torbay, Devon), but I am under the serious impression we need to spell out EXACTLY what people are to expect and learn, rather than suggesting a general idea. People are used to being taught, rather than self directed learning. ; By doing this ourselves, as advocates of free software, we can include links to why free software methologies are better, even if we have to be a little flexible in what we use for support and communication, Discourse my not be ideal, but would we rather people used facebook or discord ? My support group is about respecting privacy /user freedom as much as possible. We can use BBB for classroom type chat, over using zoom or teams. It raises the profile and promotes alternatives through usage, rather than us just saying the are better platforms. Just a thought. Can the FSF / GNU help me develop this idea further? Paul -- Paul Sutton, Cert Cont Sci (Open) https://personaljournal.ca/paulsutton/ OpenPGP : 4350 91C4 C8FB 681B 23A6 7944 8EA9 1B51 E27E 3D99 Pronoun : him/his/he OpenPGP_0x8EA91B51E27E3D99.asc Description: OpenPGP public key OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
