rocording a CD with Emacs or command line

2021-06-26 Thread quiliro
Hello.

Which i the easiest way to record files on a CD with Emacs or the
command line?  I would like to use the smallest footprint possible.

___
libreplanet-discuss mailing list
libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss

Re: MS Teams and Windows 11

2021-06-26 Thread quiliro
Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss
 writes:

> Hi All
>
> I found something interesting in a BBC news article with regard to MS
> teams and Windows 11.
>
> It seems that Teams will be even more integrated in to the next
> release of windows.   I am not a legal expert.  However this could
> once again prove to be a monopoly grab for MS and just highlights they
> don't get it when it comes to un competitive practice.  MS have been
> in court for Anti trust violations.
>
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-57597352
>
> I am not sure if the FSF legal department can take a look at this, as
> it may be something that the FSF, FSFE, EFF and others need to
> scrutinize to see if there is a violation in competition law.
>
> I can't see the people behind zoom being very happy about this either,
> so we should perhaps be more vocal about it, but more to the promotion
> of alternative.

Thank you very much for the information.

> In the mean time,
>
> https://test.bigbluebutton.org/
>
> is a useful link to allow people to try out Big Blue Button,  lets
> promote the alternatives, of course there is also jit.si but BBB is
> designed for education,  esp as if a BBB instance can be hosted in
> different jurisdictions (such as in the EU/UK) then the GDPR apples.
>
> Just thought I would highlight this.  If a barrier to people using
> free and open source software is a perceived lack of tools,  is it due
> to the lack of tools or lack of awareness of alternatives.   Most
> people have never heard of Big Blue Button or Jit.si for example.
>
> Hope this helps

It does.

I am worried that Jut.si does not work on either of my
machines because they are old.  On the other hand, I do not like using
software which is not installed by me, because I want an audit for
freedom, security and privacy, beforehand.  Browser embedded software is
too much of a task to audit because it changes so much.

I have never used Big Blue Button.  Will it also run on a browser?  If
it does, is there some other solution to making videoconferencing?
Maybe XMPP or Tox or Matrix could be a solution.  But I am not sure
about their characteristics.

___
libreplanet-discuss mailing list
libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss

Re: Latex freedom issues

2021-06-26 Thread quiliro
Jean Louis  writes:

> * Caleb Herbert  [2021-06-25 23:28]:
>> On Thu, 2021-06-24 at 20:10 -0500, quil...@riseup.net wrote:
>> > I was notified by the Hyperbola GNU developers that Latex will be
>> > removed.  There is a freedom bug report on:
>> > https://labs.parabola.nu/issues/972
>> 
>> Somewhere, RMS said "And TeX was free - just barely."  IIRC, the issue
>> is that you have to change the name of the software to redistribute it,
>> or something.
>> 
>> Honestly, I will not trust any alleged freedom concerns coming from
>> Parabola and Hyperbola folks.  Their policies are extremely strict,
>> more strict than most FSDG distros.  Just look at the your-privacy
>> package!  They're getting into users' business way too much.
>> 
>> > Would this issue affect other FSF approved distros?
>> 
>> Probably.  I left the FSF-approved ghettos once Python packages were
>> not repackaged under a free repository, but simply REMOVED.  Honestly,
>> I'm getting tired of all this.  
>
> I understand, it is your choice. Fully free FSF endorsed distributions
> are taking care not to drive users to non-free software. Python
> repository has unclear licensing issues and thus is not
> recommended. Nothing forbid you to install software yourself.
>
> Jean

I like your standing.  If I would take a stance based on functionality,
I would happily mix: Microsoft, Oracle, Apple and GNU products,
regardless of their licenses.  I would not like to take a stance based
on functionality, but on freedom.  For me, functionality is needed, but
not at the cost of freedom.  Maybe others want to place a mortage on
their future; not me.  Of course there is no total freedom.  I do not
place the limit for my personal objectives based on investing my assets
on functionality, but on long-term freedom.

I do not care about a particular document or presentation.  What I
really want to do is make sure that I use only free software.  Will
avoiding Latex completely be my only option?  If that is the situation,
how can I make different types of documents like letters and papers with
tables based on text in Emacs' org-mode?

___
libreplanet-discuss mailing list
libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss

Re: MS Teams and Windows 11

2021-06-26 Thread Jean Louis
* Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss  
[2021-06-26 10:02]:
> In the mean time,
> 
> https://test.bigbluebutton.org/
> 
> is a useful link to allow people to try out Big Blue Button,  lets promote
> the alternatives, of course there is also jit.si but BBB is designed for
> education,  esp as if a BBB instance can be hosted in different
> jurisdictions (such as in the EU/UK) then the GDPR apples.
> 
> Just thought I would highlight this.  If a barrier to people using free and
> open source software is a perceived lack of tools,  is it due to the lack of
> tools or lack of awareness of alternatives.   Most people have never heard
> of Big Blue Button or Jit.si for example.

There is also OpenMeetings

Apache OpenMeetings Project – Installation
https://openmeetings.apache.org/installation.html

Jean

Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns:
https://www.fsf.org/campaigns

In support of Richard M. Stallman
https://stallmansupport.org/

___
libreplanet-discuss mailing list
libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss

Re: Latex freedom issues

2021-06-26 Thread Jean Louis
* Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss  
[2021-06-26 09:54]:
> Just followng this,  LaTeX is optimised for science and maths typesetting I
> find it very useful for general use anyway, i have both my CV and letter
> template in LaTeX.
> 
> As far as I am concerned it is Free software,  granted I do use it using
> Overleaf but I like the cloud side of that,  which I know isn't fully free
> software but this is about being practical.
> 
> I really hope that LaTeX (and from replies it will) stays available as I
> think a lot of people would miss it if removedl

Issues have to be clarified, as wordings could be wrong, one has to
contact parties. You could contact parties and ask them to clarify
those proprietary issues. It is possible maybe to remove proprietary
parts. 

FSDG distributions should not drive people to proprietary. 

Those parts could maybe get rewritten as free software.

I also think that FSDG distributions should try to resolve the issue
before removing LaTeX.


Jean

Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns:
https://www.fsf.org/campaigns

In support of Richard M. Stallman
https://stallmansupport.org/

___
libreplanet-discuss mailing list
libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss

Re: Latex freedom issues

2021-06-26 Thread Jean Louis
* Caleb Herbert  [2021-06-25 23:28]:
> On Thu, 2021-06-24 at 20:10 -0500, quil...@riseup.net wrote:
> > I was notified by the Hyperbola GNU developers that Latex will be
> > removed.  There is a freedom bug report on:
> > https://labs.parabola.nu/issues/972
> 
> Somewhere, RMS said "And TeX was free - just barely."  IIRC, the issue
> is that you have to change the name of the software to redistribute it,
> or something.
> 
> Honestly, I will not trust any alleged freedom concerns coming from
> Parabola and Hyperbola folks.  Their policies are extremely strict,
> more strict than most FSDG distros.  Just look at the your-privacy
> package!  They're getting into users' business way too much.
> 
> > Would this issue affect other FSF approved distros?
> 
> Probably.  I left the FSF-approved ghettos once Python packages were
> not repackaged under a free repository, but simply REMOVED.  Honestly,
> I'm getting tired of all this.  

I understand, it is your choice. Fully free FSF endorsed distributions
are taking care not to drive users to non-free software. Python
repository has unclear licensing issues and thus is not
recommended. Nothing forbid you to install software yourself.


Jean

___
libreplanet-discuss mailing list
libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss

move from freenode

2021-06-26 Thread alimiracle

hi
For the last month or so, the IRC world has been embroiled in drama over 
the new ownership of Freenode. For me, it culminated when I was banned 
from Freenode.
after a heated debate in the Freenode channel where I was accused of 
splitting the community, I got k-lined (banned entirely from Freenode).
The reason given was “spamming”, because of my recurring message about 
the move to Libera.
With the old staffs gone, we cannot return life to free node. But fate 
has yielded its reward: a new world to call Libera.chat. We live among 
its people now, hiding in plain sight, but watching over them in secret, 
waiting...protecting. I have witnessed their capacity for courage, and 
though we are worlds apart, like us, there's more to them than meets the 
eye. I am alimiracle, and I send this message to any surviving People 
taking refuge among the irc servers: We are in Libera.chat. We are waiting.

have fun and be free
alimiracle


___
libreplanet-discuss mailing list
libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss

Re: Latex freedom issues

2021-06-26 Thread Caleb Herbert
On Sat, 2021-06-26 at 07:45 +0100, Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss
wrote:
> I really hope that LaTeX (and from replies it will) stays available
> as
> I 
> think a lot of people would miss it if removedl

The GNU Press would have a lot of work to do. All the books would have
to be converted to another format.


___
libreplanet-discuss mailing list
libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss

Re: Latex freedom issues

2021-06-26 Thread Caleb Herbert
On Fri, 2021-06-25 at 23:35 +0300, Jean Louis wrote:
> Nothing forbid you to install software yourself.

Unless you're using a distro like Parabola, which uses a blacklist
scheme for keeping the system clean. If I were using Parabola, I'd have
to remove your-freedom just to use Python and other development tools
the standard, documented way.

I prefer how Trisquel and Guix simply ship without any proprietary
software, and don't bother the user if they go away on their own to
install proprietary programs.


___
libreplanet-discuss mailing list
libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss

MS Teams and Windows 11

2021-06-26 Thread Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss

Hi All

I found something interesting in a BBC news article with regard to MS 
teams and Windows 11.


It seems that Teams will be even more integrated in to the next release 
of windows.   I am not a legal expert.  However this could once again 
prove to be a monopoly grab for MS and just highlights they don't get it 
when it comes to un competitive practice.  MS have been in court for 
Anti trust violations.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-57597352

I am not sure if the FSF legal department can take a look at this, as it 
may be something that the FSF, FSFE, EFF and others need to scrutinize 
to see if there is a violation in competition law.


I can't see the people behind zoom being very happy about this either, 
so we should perhaps be more vocal about it, but more to the promotion 
of alternative.



In the mean time,

https://test.bigbluebutton.org/

is a useful link to allow people to try out Big Blue Button,  lets 
promote the alternatives, of course there is also jit.si but BBB is 
designed for education,  esp as if a BBB instance can be hosted in 
different jurisdictions (such as in the EU/UK) then the GDPR apples.


Just thought I would highlight this.  If a barrier to people using free 
and open source software is a perceived lack of tools,  is it due to the 
lack of tools or lack of awareness of alternatives.   Most people have 
never heard of Big Blue Button or Jit.si for example.


Hope this helps

Regards

Paul Sutton


--
--
Paul Sutton, Cert Cont Sci (Open)
https://personaljournal.ca/paulsutton/
Pronoun : him/his/he
OpenPGP : 4350 91C4 C8FB 681B 23A6 7944 8EA9 1B51 E27E 3D99

21st Debian Conference August 22 to August 29, 2021.
DebCamp from August 15 to August 21, 2021

https://debconf21.debconf.org/



OpenPGP_signature
Description: OpenPGP digital signature
___
libreplanet-discuss mailing list
libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss

Re: Latex freedom issues

2021-06-26 Thread Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss



On 25/06/2021 02:10, quil...@riseup.net wrote:

I was notified by the Hyperbola GNU developers that Latex will be
removed.  There is a freedom bug report on:
https://labs.parabola.nu/issues/972
Would this issue affect other FSF approved distros?

___
libreplanet-discuss mailing list
libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss



Hi All

Just followng this,  LaTeX is optimised for science and maths 
typesetting I find it very useful for general use anyway, i have both my 
CV and letter template in LaTeX.


As far as I am concerned it is Free software,  granted I do use it using 
Overleaf but I like the cloud side of that,  which I know isn't fully 
free software but this is about being practical.


I really hope that LaTeX (and from replies it will) stays available as I 
think a lot of people would miss it if removedl


Paul

--
Paul Sutton, Cert Cont Sci (Open)
https://personaljournal.ca/paulsutton/
Pronoun : him/his/he
OpenPGP : 4350 91C4 C8FB 681B 23A6 7944 8EA9 1B51 E27E 3D99

21st Debian Conference August 22 to August 29, 2021.
DebCamp from August 15 to August 21, 2021

https://debconf21.debconf.org/



OpenPGP_signature
Description: OpenPGP digital signature
___
libreplanet-discuss mailing list
libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss