Re: [LIB] Long file name utility?
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 09:42:56 +1300 From: Fran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Long file name utility? I'm after the same. Especially for machines where getting in to windows to do the zipping method is not an option. Only one I can think of off hand is a bootable linux disk that sets up parallel port networking. Fran :):):) On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 18:11, you wrote: Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 05:06:39 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Long file name utility? Does anyone know of a utility I can use to get files with long file names from one notebook to another in DOS via a parallel cable connection? I have just a few directories I need to backup on a friend's notebook with a W95 OS that is shot to hell, and won't boot, despite valiant efforts to replair it. We're backing up everything now to re-install the OS. I've ghosted all the data on a partitition he smartly created to save all his work to. But there are a group of files in his C:\Windows\Application Data folders that I'd like to backup while preserving the file names. I downloaded a great freware PC to PC file transfer utility called File Maven that I was able to download the ghost image file to my L70 with via a null modem cable. But FM can't move files to the L70 and preserve long file names. I downloaded the new PKware with pkzip.exe, but it can only compress and save long file names in a DOS window while in Windows. Unless I've missed something, I don't see any way to get Ghost to create an image of a group of selected files and folders. Any suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks, Matt _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Long file name utility?
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 21:31:48 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Long file name utility? Well... this is an option, but it looks like a rather grueling method. In order to make an image of one subdirectory of C:\Windows\Application Data, I'd have to create a batch file with all of the root directories of C:\ and C:\Windows\ with the -skip command at the beginning of each line. I was reading the Ghost manual to figure out how a few dozen of command line switches work, and which ones would do the job for me, and came up with something like this: ghost.exe -clone,mode=dump,src=1,dst=d:\winapps.gho [EMAIL PROTECTED] But I've already obliterated one partition with Ghost about a year ago. One wrong slip oon the command line and POOF! :0 Good suggestion though. It is a possibility. Matt Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 21:26:41 -0800 From: Casey Karp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Witty, wise, weird, and wonderful, Matthew Hanson wrote at 09:11 PM 2/14/2002 Unless I've missed something, I don't see any way to get Ghost to create an image of a group of selected files and folders. If you're not in a hurry, how about using the -skip commandline parameter to exclude everything except the directories you want to keep? See below for an excerpt from the Ghost2001 manual; I'm pretty sure that the -skip command goes back to at least Ghost 5 (before Norton bought it). Hope that helps, C. -skip=x Skip File. Causes Norton Ghost to exclude the indicated files during an operation. A skip entry can specify a single file, directory, or multiple files using the * wildcard. File names must be given in short file name format and all pathnames are absolute. Only FAT system files are able to be skipped. It is not possible to skip files on NTFS or other file systems. The skip switch may only be included in the command line once. To specify multiple skip entries, they must be included in a text file indicated using -skip=@skipfile. The format of the skip text file skipfile matches the format used with the CRC32 vexcept option. Examples: -skip=\windows\user.dll Skips the file user.dll in the windows directory. -skip=*\readme.txt Skips any file called readme.txt in any directory. -skip=\ghost\*.dll Skips any file ending with .dll in the ghost directory. Norton Ghost command-line switches -skip=\progra~1\ Skips the whole program files directory (note the short file name). [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skips files as outlined in the skipfile.txt file. For example, the skipfile.txt contains: *\*.tmt [partition:1] \windows\ *\*.exe [Partition:2] *\*me.txt This would skip all *.tmt files on any partition, the windows directory and any *.exe files on the first partition, and any file that ended with the me.txt on the second partition. _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Long file name utility?
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 21:36:57 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Long file name utility? Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 08:46:52 -0500 From: Paul Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use Google to search for LFNBACK.EXE. Seems like what this utility does is to rename file names from DOS somehow. I've yet to find information on all of the functions of it. I'll see if I can find more info on it. Matt _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Long file name utility?
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 14:10:09 -0800 From: Casey Karp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Long file name utility? Witty, wise, weird, and wonderful, Matthew Hanson wrote at 01:36 PM 2/16/2002 Well... this is an option, but it looks like a rather grueling method. In order to make an image of one subdirectory of C:\Windows\Application Data, I'd have to create a batch file with all of the root directories of C:\ and C:\Windows\ with the -skip command at the beginning of each line. Grueling. Now there's a word you don't see spelled correctly very often these days. laughter Agreed that it would be a pain in the rear; when I need to do something like that, I tend to rely on tree tmp.txt and a text editor. Under Windows (if Windows is loadable), the easy solution is to select the directories in question and use the Send to clipboard as name command from the MS PowerToys. But I've already obliterated one partition with Ghost about a year ago. One wrong slip oon the command line and POOF! :0 Yup. I've screwed up a couple of systems that way too. Good suggestion though. It is a possibility. Later thought: don't Win95/98 come with a program for backing up long filenames? Could you use that to back up the long names and then use something like pkzip to back up the actual files? C. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Long file name utility?
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 22:19:45 + From: T i m [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Long file name utility? Hi Guys, This place might be of interest .. http://www.powerload.fsnet.co.uk/msdos.htm T i m (Nearly a 50CT owner ..looking for 12V lead?) Casey Karp wrote: Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 14:10:09 -0800 From: Casey Karp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Long file name utility? Witty, wise, weird, and wonderful, Matthew Hanson wrote at 01:36 PM 2/16/2002 Well... this is an option, but it looks like a rather grueling method. In order to make an image of one subdirectory of C:\Windows\Application Data, I'd have to create a batch file with all of the root directories of C:\ and C:\Windows\ with the -skip command at the beginning of each line. Grueling. Now there's a word you don't see spelled correctly very often these days. laughter Agreed that it would be a pain in the rear; when I need to do something like that, I tend to rely on tree tmp.txt and a text editor. Under Windows (if Windows is loadable), the easy solution is to select the directories in question and use the Send to clipboard as name command from the MS PowerToys. But I've already obliterated one partition with Ghost about a year ago. One wrong slip oon the command line and POOF! :0 Yup. I've screwed up a couple of systems that way too. Good suggestion though. It is a possibility. Later thought: don't Win95/98 come with a program for backing up long filenames? Could you use that to back up the long names and then use something like pkzip to back up the actual files? C. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Long file name utility?
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:10:55 +1300 From: Fran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Long file name utility? From a windows shell only dammit... Fran :):):) On Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:43, you wrote: Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 21:36:57 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Long file name utility? Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 08:46:52 -0500 From: Paul Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use Google to search for LFNBACK.EXE. Seems like what this utility does is to rename file names from DOS somehow. I've yet to find information on all of the functions of it. I'll see if I can find more info on it. Matt _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Long file name utility?
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 23:37:35 From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Long file name utility? I'm coming to this late - but is the situation that windows won't boot, but other files are required? It seems to me that in this case the easy way would be to stuff the disk in a desktop as a second disk - not the boot disk. I know this has been my battle cry of many moons now :) but the desktop windows system will be able to see the long file structures and long file names. Zip and replace as required. There's a subtle and not-well-documented problem that can occur with lfns on w95 - and I assume later version. micros~1 labels are apparently allocated in serial order as the files are created. Suppose you have three files created in order with the names micros~1, micros~2 and micros~3, and then the file micros~2 is erased. On the source, we have micros~1 and ~3, and if we copy them with xcopy (with appropriate switches - i forget), the destination will list them as micros~1 and ~2. Which is fine...provided you don't have any shortcuts to ~3...cos now it's gone, it's broken. Damn! Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 14:10:09 -0800 From: Casey Karp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Long file name utility? Witty, wise, weird, and wonderful, Matthew Hanson wrote at 01:36 PM 2/16/2002 Well... this is an option, but it looks like a rather grueling method. In order to make an image of one subdirectory of C:\Windows\Application Data, I'd have to create a batch file with all of the root directories of C:\ and C:\Windows\ with the -skip command at the beginning of each line. Grueling. Now there's a word you don't see spelled correctly very often these days. laughter Agreed that it would be a pain in the rear; when I need to do something like that, I tend to rely on tree tmp.txt and a text editor. Under Windows (if Windows is loadable), the easy solution is to select the directories in question and use the Send to clipboard as name command from the MS PowerToys. But I've already obliterated one partition with Ghost about a year ago. One wrong slip oon the command line and POOF! :0 Yup. I've screwed up a couple of systems that way too. Good suggestion though. It is a possibility. Later thought: don't Win95/98 come with a program for backing up long filenames? Could you use that to back up the long names and then use something like pkzip to back up the actual files? C. _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] A couple of questions....
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 23:29:36 -0800 From: Chester Prudhomme [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: A couple of questions I bought a nice L110CT off eBay a couple of days ago. I got an approval period on it to make sure it is alright. The young fellow I got it from just lives in Seattle, an hour and half away so I will go pick it up in person. In the meantime he is asking me if I want Win2K Pro installed on it (which he has been using) or Win2K Server (? - I don't know what this is?) or Win 98. What will work best on this Libretto - I use Win2K on my desktop PC and like it but how will it fare on the L110? Any advice or recommendations are appreciated. I upgraded to the L110 from my L70 because I wanted the USB capability to run an external harddrive and other USB devices with a 4 USB port PMCIA card or 4 port AC powered HUB. Chester ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] A couple of questions....
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 07:39:09 - From: Jon C \(spam\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] A couple of questions Hi Chester I've got a 110CT running Win2K Pro - it works just fine. Takes a bit of time to boot up, but as suspend hibernate work fine you shouldn't have to reboot too often (hopefully!) This 110CT of yours - it does have 64Mb yes? I hate to think what Win2K would do with *only* 32Mb.. Win2K Server on a Libby? I would guess that's not a great idea. I had Win98 before I upgraded to Win2K; it also worked fine but I had too many BSDs (Blue Screens of Death) for my liking. Jon - Original Message - From: Chester Prudhomme [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 7:31 AM Subject: [LIB] A couple of questions Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 23:29:36 -0800 From: Chester Prudhomme [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: A couple of questions I bought a nice L110CT off eBay a couple of days ago. I got an approval period on it to make sure it is alright. The young fellow I got it from just lives in Seattle, an hour and half away so I will go pick it up in person. In the meantime he is asking me if I want Win2K Pro installed on it (which he has been using) or Win2K Server (? - I don't know what this is?) or Win 98. What will work best on this Libretto - I use Win2K on my desktop PC and like it but how will it fare on the L110? Any advice or recommendations are appreciated. I upgraded to the L110 from my L70 because I wanted the USB capability to run an external harddrive and other USB devices with a 4 USB port PMCIA card or 4 port AC powered HUB. Chester ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Long file name utility?
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 07:47:22 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Long file name utility? Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 23:37:35 From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm coming to this late - but is the situation that windows won't boot, but other files are required? I've never seen a Windows OS as screwed up as this one DOS asked for one after another file that is needed to boot with. After copying a number of files from another system, it finally started to boot to the desktop... where the system promptly froze with no clue what to do at that point. I ghosted and backed up all his important files, and David found the CS services software to get my CD-ROM working on the Fujitsu. Srounged up a 'real' W95 installation disk, and copied all the relevent files to the D: partition. Then reinstalled W95 over itself. I DID find a utility that backs up the long file names in pure DOS, and info on the process here: http://www.lisp.com.au/~michael/personal/LFNBackups.html Maybe this will help you Fran. The utility is: DOSLFNBK.EXE ... and there's a link there to download it. Essentially you execute a command to create a file that contains all of the long file names. Then zip up all the files, unzip them on another system, and run the restore option to rename the DOS file names to the originals. It seems to me that in this case the easy way would be to stuff the disk in a desktop as a second disk - not the boot disk. I know this has been my battle cry of many moons now :) but the desktop windows system will be able to see the long file structures and long file names. Zip and replace as required. One of these days I gotsta get one of those IDE adaptors. That method seem a very practical method of doing a lot of work on notebook HDDs. Matt _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] A couple of questions....
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 07:51:23 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] A couple of questions Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 23:29:36 -0800 From: Chester Prudhomme [EMAIL PROTECTED] I bought a nice L110CT off eBay a couple of days ago. Good for you Chester! I was watching that auction and was wondering if you were bidding on it. I'll let those with experience with W2000 address your questions though. Matt I got an approval period on it to make sure it is alright. The young fellow I got it from just lives in Seattle, an hour and half away so I will go pick it up in person. In the meantime he is asking me if I want Win2K Pro installed on it (which he has been using) or Win2K Server (? - I don't know what this is?) or Win 98. What will work best on this Libretto - I use Win2K on my desktop PC and like it but how will it fare on the L110? Any advice or recommendations are appreciated. I upgraded to the L110 from my L70 because I wanted the USB capability to run an external harddrive and other USB devices with a 4 USB port PMCIA card or 4 port AC powered HUB. Chester _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
