RE: Digital cameras (was [LIB] New Website
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 06:52:28 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Digital cameras (was [LIB] New Website From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED] A lens with a big minimum aperture rating (eg. f/5.6) is a slow lens vs. a lens with a small minimum aperture rating (eg. f/1.8), a fast lens. OK through all this, something is losing me. When you talk about 'big minimum aperture', I realize you're talking about a big f-number (ie. in fact a SMALL aperture opening). When you say minimum however does that mean the f-number can get bigger (ie. in fact its a maximum aperture opening) or does that mean the aperture opening can get bigger (ie. in fact its a minimum f-number)? Because in that case it doesn't seem to make sense ... for the same situation, I thought a fast lens lets in more light than a slow lens so you'd expect a fast lens with a small aperture opening (ie. larger f-number) would let in the same amount of light as a slow lens with a large aperture opening (ie. smaller f-number) ... Heh... 29 or so posts ahead of me, so I'm sure this must have been addressed. It's been years since I knew all of this stuff, and am still getting the cobwebs out of my attic. But I don't think that what's being defined here as 'speed', 'fast lens' and 'slow lens', has anything to do with the quality of one lens that would make it 'faster' or 'slower' than another lens at the same f/stop. Or let in the same amount of light at different f/stops. I always thought that the relationship between f/stop, exposure speed, and speed of film, was a fixed proportionality that is independent of what kind of lens thats being used. Id think thatd drive people crazy calculating settings for a bunch of different lenses. I'll be interested to see if David or Neil also explain things as I understand them. That a 'fast' lens, is one that has a bigger, well ground set of glass optical components that allow the lens to open up to the smaller f/stops, creating a larger aperture, and letting in more light. At the lowest f/stop in a 'fast' lens, you'd have to increase the speed OF THE EXPOSURE. Where using any of the larger f/stops would result in smaller apertures, and necessitate a slower exposure time. And I wonder if it is from this measure of high exposure speed at the very low f/stops that these lenses are capable of, that gave birth tow the term 'fast lens'. Matt Onward... _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: AW: [LIB] recording audio? (danger technical)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 07:11:40 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AW: [LIB] recording audio? (danger technical) From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of course, it shouldn't make any difference *how* fast the disk is provided it can take 10MB/minute or so ... Do ya realy mean that 10MB/minute, or would you like one of these Margaritas? Margaritas are always good, but I did mean that: 16 bits * 44.1k samples per second * 2 channels = 176.4kBps = 10MBpminute. It's not as if there's *huge* quantities of data flanging around. Okay, I see. This really shows how relatively slow the whole data transfer can be. I should think that I'd be able to squeeze 10MB/Min / 60sec/min = 1.3...MB/seconds out of any of these HDDs, at least before Windows get's its sticky fingers in there. So I'm venturing a guess here that the reason I may be getting incrementally better recording results on one HDD w/W98 vs another HDD w/W98, may be more do to the way each W98 installation is working than it does with the HDDs... and that both these HDDs should be able to be set up to recording properly. Could well be. Of course, I assume the disks are defragged? Seek times are *long* compared to access times. Funnny thing is that the 20GB drive is practically new and not fragmented much at all at this point. The 6.4GB drive, however, has been through the mill for a couple years (though I have defragged back when at some point a couple times). And I'm getting the impression that I might want to try to track down some DOS recording software and give this WavJammer a try on it. Yes, if you can find some that understands pcmcia cards. Everything appears as memory according to the pcmcia readme, and I don't think a straight forward dos driver will understand it. I could be wrong. Well... I'm still perplexed about just why people have reported recording audio on their Libs with Windows OSs (I assume) with no problems. And I'm having problems with my setup when I've got things so leaned out that I can multitask MusicMatch 4.0 with a number of apps on the L70, and can at least run it on the L50 and type in WordPad (heh... slowly). Matt _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] then two come along at once!
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 08:23:12 +0100 From: T i m [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] then two come along at once! Hi Ray, Yes! (50/70CT). T i m (Dabs are doing both 50 or 100 for £39 +) Raymond wrote: Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 16:55:42 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] then two come along at once! I say an auction on eBay and a (new) Hi-Cap went for £45. (On DABS the same battery is £39 + Vat ?) I e-mailed the seller asking if they had another of the same and if so I'd pay £35 inc carriage. They replied, said OK .. the battery arrived yesterday and seems to be working ok.;-) Are we talking L50/70 packs here or are we talking L100/110 packs? If they're going for that sorta price I might start looking out for them again before my one and only pack for my L100 dies ... Speaking of packs, I've given up looking elsewhere and can't figure out why I haven't asked here so I might as well ask now ... does anyone have any dead/dying L100/110 battery packs (preferrably high capacity) that they're willing to sell? - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] SPAM ugh...
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 07:47:31 From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] SPAM ugh... Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 21:06:31 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SPAM ugh... Again, this time... am I the only one on the list getting daily, or 2/day pieces of SPAM into my mailbox every day now with a slew of similar email addresses CCed: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc Or is it just specific Hotmail users who clicked on something on the web that generated this? Each day these arrive from yet another bogus email address. Nope, I get occasional bursts cc'd to nailed*.*@hotmail... _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] [OT] RE: Digital cameras (danger Matt/Ray length exposition :)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 07:44:27 From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] [OT] RE: Digital cameras (danger Matt/Ray length exposition :) Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 08:24:31 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] [OT] RE: Digital cameras (danger Matt/Ray length exposition :) Aw shoot... Just when I thought I had David's explanation down, now I have to get the broom and clean up these shattered pieces of comprehension I was so confident with a few minutes ago. It made sense when David said: Slow lens is a lens with a large aperture value when set wide open (when the lens lets in as much light as it can), eg. f/5.6.A fast lens is a lens with a small aperture value, eg. f/1.8. Yup. But note the difference between 'aperture value' and 'aperture'. Aperture value is focal distance of lens divided by width of hole through middle (with fudge factors for modern zoom type optics) so the smaller the hole, the bigger the aperture value = f-stop. [for the curious, I still have a lens somewhere around where the f-stop is an actual strip of brass with a series of different sized holes in it] If the definition of a slow lens is as David describes, then I can see where such a lens would be limited to slower shutter speeds when the lens is wide open, compared to the higher shutter speed capability of a wide open lens with a f/1.8 aperture value. Yup. Bigger hole = more light = faster. And it made sense that if a lens is only capable of the highest aperture value of 5.8 or greater, then I'd think that it WOULD in fact be limited to the larger f/stops with higher depth of field. No? Not sure what you mean - if the largest aperture value is f5.6, then all other aperture values will have smaller holes, thus higher f-stop numbers, longer exposures, and greater depth of field. So yes. However, you must have good control of the focus to achieve this. Not what you want for point and click, and not what you want when you can't see a viewfinder image with the same resolutiuon as the final image. Of course, one point I didn't mention - the depth of field is also proportional to the resolution of the image sensor - if that is low, then the depth of field is effectively increased, in that the image is equally soft either side of the focus point. Let's see... if the image sensor resolution is low, then depth of field is high. You getting this Raymond? Yes, because depth of field is to do with the number of lines of resolution in the final image, and how far either side of the focus point they can be resolved. If your image sensor resolution is low, then you can't actually see the higher resolution in the centre of the focus range - you might consider it an enhanced depth of constant fuzziness. I don't know if domestic electronic cameras do this, but all professional CCD tv cameras use an optical low pass filter (i.e a carefully etched bit of frosted glass) to prevent aliasing of un-resolvable image information. Neil _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
RE: Digital cameras (was [LIB] New Website
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 07:58:27 From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Digital cameras (was [LIB] New Website Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 06:52:28 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Digital cameras (was [LIB] New Website And I wonder if it is from this measure of high exposure speed at the very low f/stops that these lenses are capable of, that gave birth tow the term 'fast lens'. The f-number system was designed to give a common reference point for evaluating lenses. One f-stop changes the light by a factor of 2 - which is why modern cameras have shutter speeds that also change by a factor of two. Yes. The phrase dates from the 1860s or so. The difference in exposure between an f8 and an f11 might be five minutes with your head in a metal frame to keep you from moving. [desperately searches for libretto link] Ah yes. It turns out that the 50/70 screen is exactly the right size to use as a lightbox for 4*5 negatives. [phew - couldn't find a miniskirt!] Neil _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Question on PA2499U charger operation
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 08:14:51 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Question on PA2499U charger operation From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just got one of those $9.95 deals that Toshiba was offering on the PA2499U battery charger. Man... they got it here in 2 days. Well, probably ONE day, as I ordered it very late in the day Wednesday toards 6pm, and it must have been shipped Thursday to arrive Friday FedEx mid-day Friday. Way to go Toshiba! Congratulations! Now please figure out a way this post relates to lenses or it may be considered non-topic...:( BAH! Oops posted a few thoughts on that before I saw that wrinkled brow Pres. Maybe we can start a Librettoratti Yackers list! 1. Is it okay to leave the battery in the charger all the time with the charger's output powering my L50? I notice that the whole unit with battery gets a lot hotter than the L50 with the battery inserted and charging. I also see where the charger's instructions say to remove the battery when its charged. Yes, IMHO I have to admit that I caught the charger just when it had fully charged the battery. And I haven't used it again since then. I wonder if I had left the battery in the charger for a few more hours, if the charger would have cooled down. I never noticed the batteries and Libretto getting that warm after a charge. But I don't know if I've really checked this. I usually just plug the lib into AC when I've used the battery a lot, and left it to charge. Has anyoone noticed the libbys getting as warm charging batteries as the charger does? 2. Will the charger charge the battery while the battery is in the L50, no battery in the charger, and the charger's output plugged into a powered down L50? YES Great I've have been switching my one AC adapter between the two. powering one down while I use the other, or running one on batteries and the other with the AC adapter. It'd be really nice if I could use the charger as an AC power supply for the L50 with its battery inserted, and have the charger be able to do the job my 2nd AC adapter would otherwise be doing. That's exaclty the use of this device. It allows use as a power supply while also charging simultaneously. I'm not talking about having a battery plugged into the charger while it's simultaneously powering a lib with a battery in the lib. Im wondering if its okay NOT to have a battery in the charger, and leave the L50 plugged into the charger to keep its battery charging that way. Ive always thought that its best to keep the lib plugged into power when not in use. Having only one AC adaptor for the past 8 months or so, and not keeping the L50 plugged in has made me wonder if Im killing its battery. Matt Now if someone doesn't mention lenses, preferably focused on miniskirts, right away, I will try to send the cmd:unscribble 214 times! Oops didnt post a few thoughts on that before I saw that glint in your eyes Pres. Maybe we can start a Librettoratti Miniskirt Yackers list! ;-P _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] cmd: unsubscribe
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 05:23:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: cmd: unsubscribe ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] DOS Card socket services?
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 20:42:29 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] DOS Card socket services? I've tried Ghosting the 110 drive to the 100 drive, Word of warning ... in my experience, Ghost 6.x seems to do weird things to certain drives with overlays. I've had more success with Powerquest DriveImage because it doesn't try to second-guess the file system (but then again its a LOT LOT easier to stuff things up accidentally with DriveImage than it is with Ghost due to the stuff it DOESN'T tell you about ... its a risk balance I guess). And before people tell me to just format the HD in the Lib, move it to a desktop, and copy the CAB files over, remember the IBM overlay - it seems to be screwing with the ability of the Lib100 with Win98 to read the drive, so I'm not holding my breath about plugging it into my Win98 desktop and reading it either. Actually I get around that problem by booting off the libby's hard drive on my desktop. Sure it does screw some things up and I can't boot the desktop OS but at least it lets me use a standard IDE CD-ROM drive and the other hard drives in my desktop. Its also probably a lot faster to partition and ghost the hard drive in the desktop (especially because you could ghost onto another local drive). Certainly EZ-Bios knows to keep its feet away from drives that it can see don't have EZ-Bios installed. I'm sure if you *REALLY* wanted to you could put NTLDR on the libby's hard drive, boot off it then jump into the WinNT/2k/XP install on the desktop (because NT/2k/XP don't mind being booted from different places) but I haven't been bothered doing that ... I actually wrote a big splurge on how I managed to get Windows 98 and Red Hat dual booting on my libby with a 20 gig Fujitsu hard drive and EZ-Bios installed (I actually did it on my L50 ... I moved the lot over to my L100 by doing a hellavalot of stuff you shouldn't do with file systems but thats in another email ;-) ... it might keep you from getting into the same dead ends I did. - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] SPAM ugh...
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 20:47:09 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] SPAM ugh... I'm still wondering if my suspicions are correct, and that every time someone fills in web form and submits it to the website, that his ISP email address is passed along with the info he's entered into the form. Does anyone know if one's dial-up account's email address is what is used to send web forms? Heh well it can't possibly happen on my computer ... I've never even ENTERED my ISP email address into it except in a Telnet window ;-) - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] [OT] RE: Digital cameras (danger Matt/Ray length
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 20:45:28 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] [OT] RE: Digital cameras (danger Matt/Ray length exposition :) Of course, one point I didn't mention - the depth of field is also proportional to the resolution of the image sensor - if that is low, then the depth of field is effectively increased, in that the image is equally soft either side of the focus point. Let's see... if the image sensor resolution is low, then depth of field is high. You getting this Raymond? Ya .. that was actually one of the only things I got ;-) Of course, thats not entirely accurate ... its more a matter of instead of going from really sharp (due to good CCD and good focus) to sorta fuzzy in front and behind in the case of a decent CCD, to going from sorta fuzzy (due to sheer lack of pixels) to sorta fuzzy (due to it being out of focus) with a low res CCD ... its still sorta fuzzy but then again the sharpest bit was also sorta fuzzy. - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
RE: Digital cameras (was [LIB] New Website
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 20:54:12 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Digital cameras (was [LIB] New Website I'll be interested to see if David or Neil also explain things as I understand them. That a 'fast' lens, is one that has a bigger, well ground set of glass optical components that allow the lens to open up to the smaller f/stops, creating a larger aperture, and letting in more light. Nah the 'speed' of the lens (if I'm not mistaken) is related to the raw light gathering power (the more light, the faster you can set the shutter for the same exposure) ... really simplistically speaking, for similar lenses a larger front lens (assuming the stuff behind it can gather light coming through it) will result in a faster lens than a smaller one ... thats why sports photographers have those insanely large lenses that are 5 times larger than the camera itself. I was more bumbling about the apeture thingys but I think I've got that sorted in my head. - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
RE: Digital cameras (was [LIB] New Website
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 20:57:49 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Digital cameras (was [LIB] New Website Yes. The phrase dates from the 1860s or so. The difference in exposure between an f8 and an f11 might be five minutes with your head in a metal frame to keep you from moving. Eh? - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Cells ..
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 20:50:53 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Cells .. At 06:08 PM 7/04/2002 -0700, you wrote: Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 21:02:04 -0400 From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Cells .. My new Hi-Cap gave at least 1.5 hours of use yesterday (my daughter was using it down the caravan for creating poems in Wordpad) and was still not out. You will find darn close to 3 hours on a L50 with hi-cap. Just under 1 hour on regular. Dunno where you have been ... IIRC my old standard and new standard in my L50 gave me about 1:20 and almost 2 hours respectively ... pitty the high cap in my L100 only gives me about 1:30 ... anyone wanna sell me a dead L100 high cap battery? ;-) - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] [OT] RE: Digital cameras (danger Matt/Ray length
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 21:03:21 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] [OT] RE: Digital cameras (danger Matt/Ray length exposition :) Grr ... I should read my emails backwards so I don't end up posting similar responses to what others have already posted ... Yup. But note the difference between 'aperture value' and 'aperture'. Aperture value is focal distance of lens divided by width of hole through middle (with fudge factors for modern zoom type optics) so the smaller the hole, the bigger the aperture value = f-stop. [for the curious, I still have a lens somewhere around where the f-stop is an actual strip of brass with a series of different sized holes in it] Actually, I swear my digital camera doesn't even HAVE an expanding/contracting 'iris' and instead has a thin piece of metal with a few different sized holes in it and a solenoid that switches the holes in and out I guess for something that doesn't need to be continuously variable (because in between stops the CCD sensitivity can be adjusted to compensate) its probably cheaper and more reliable than an iris system ... Yes, because depth of field is to do with the number of lines of resolution in the final image, and how far either side of the focus point they can be resolved. If your image sensor resolution is low, then you can't actually see the higher resolution in the centre of the focus range - you might consider it an enhanced depth of constant fuzziness. I don't know if domestic electronic cameras do this, but all professional CCD tv cameras use an optical low pass filter (i.e a carefully etched bit of frosted glass) to prevent aliasing of un-resolvable image information. Are you *sure* its being used as an optical low pass filter? It does seem a little pointless given that you're not performing perfect sampling with a CCD anyway (plus you'd think you would get enough charge leakage to perform your pre-sampling low-pass filtering anyway). All the CCD cameras I've seen DO have a filter in front of the lens but its more an IR filter with a substantial anti-reflective coating on it ... - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] cmd: unsubscribe
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 09:22:12 -0400 From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] cmd: unsubscribe no spaces Thanks Pres Waterman, W2PW c/o 112 Motors, LLC Long Island Ford, Kia and Used Dealer GO BILLS! - Original Message - From: Don Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 5:32 AM Subject: [LIB] cmd: unsubscribe Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 05:23:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: cmd: unsubscribe ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] List problem?
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 09:36:32 +0100 From: Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] List problem? I think the only list problem is that there has been extensive discussion of focal length of lenses. Unless you figure the fact that you were reading the messages on a Libretto enough to keep it relevant to Librettos. :-) Surely the reason people are using these lenses is to make all PCs look as small as the Libretto? Does it work on your skirts as well Pres? :-) I agree with Pres though, can we move away from cameras and back to Librettos? My head hurts trying to understand the focal length of a pinhole and my Libretto can't handle all these OT messages and I don't want to have to unscribble. TIA - Keith ~ Location: Dartford Kent UK Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ### ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] List problem?
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 11:39:48 -0400 From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] List problem? My head hurts trying to understand the focal length of a pinhole and my Libretto PinHOLE? All along I thought we were talking about pinHEADs. No wonder it seemed somehow relevant Thanks Pres Waterman W2PW c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. Long Island Ford and Kia dealer GO BILLS! ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] [OT] RE: Digital cameras (danger Matt/Ray length
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 11:52:06 -0400 From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] [OT] RE: Digital cameras (danger Matt/Ray length I have found all the F stops (if that's what you call them) .. on the 50 at least, they go from F1 to F10 (though I'm not sure which is the fastest?). OK, now THAT's extremely funny. God, I wish I had said that. Say, perhaps I will! Thanks Pres Waterman W2PW c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. Long Island Ford and Kia dealer GO BILLS! ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] [OT] RE: Digital cameras (danger Matt/Ray length
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 23:39:03 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] [OT] RE: Digital cameras (danger Matt/Ray length I have found all the F stops (if that's what you call them) .. on the 50 at least, they go from F1 to F10 (though I'm not sure which is the fastest?). OK, now THAT's extremely funny. God, I wish I had said that. Say, perhaps I will! Kinda surprised you didn't point out that F10 must be fastest (as 100/110's are quicker than 50's, obviously because they have F11 and F12 built in)... ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] test ignore this
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 01:32:01 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] test ignore this Digital Photo Chat - http://www.digitalphotochat.com Small world, innit? ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] Tom's PCMCIA HDD and CSS problems
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 18:47:52 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Tom's PCMCIA HDD and CSS problems I wrote Tom off list, but am posting his reply to the list, as it may explain his problems better. I only had one thought to add (below): From: Tom Stangl, VFAQman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matthew Hanson wrote: From: Tom Stangl, VFAQman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Help me before I go insane! I'm trying to get a 20Gig HD installed in my Lib100, and for the life of me, I can't remember how I got the one installed in my 110 (I remember fighting with a ton of floppies). Are we looking at an IBM HDD here? Is the problem getting the HDD set up? Specifially is the problem just with the overlay software? Yes, because as soon as I have the overlay on and the disk formatted, I can't access it as a slave drive in the PCMCIA drive enclosure. I've tried Ghosting the 110 drive to the 100 drive, but I can't get the 3Com 3C589D card working with the Ghost boot floppy. It USED to, but the 3C589.com errors out now, and I'm not sure what I'm missing - I've been all over 3Com's site, and tried the driver install downloads multiple times. The card works, as I can use it in Win98 on the 110. From what you're saying, it seems you do have access to the HDD in the L100. Have you been able to boot the L100 with at boot FD, fdisk the HDD, and format it? Yep. But at that point, I'm stuck. I can't load Win98 from CD because the drivers for the generic PCMCIA CD drive say Card Socket services need to be loaded first. Since I have to use IBM's Disk Manager, it seems the Ontrack overlay screws my chances of simply dropping the new 20Gig HD into a PCMCIA case Whoa... dropping the new 20Gig HD into a PCMCIA case ?? Is there some kind of PCMCIA adaptor you can plug a HDD into, and then plug the other end of the adaptor into on of the L110's PCMCIA slots? Yes, I bought it a couple of years ago for the L50 810Meg HD, so that I could transfer it to the new 4.3Gig for the L50. and jacking it in, copying files to it - when I jack it into the 110 (or the 100 with the original 2.1G HD), it loads the drivers, but doesn't see the single 2Gig partition I have on there so far. I'm really confused... You say, - when I jack it into the 110 (or the 100 with the original 2.1G HD)... Are you plugging the 20GB HDDinto a PCMCIA port on the L110? Yes, after I realized that I couldn't get the CD copied onto the HD the normal way, installing the HD into the Libretto and booting it. At this point, I don't necessarily want to Ghost over the old drive, since each system might be used for different things, and I think I want to start completely fresh. But if I can get the 3Com3C589D card working, I guess I might Ghost it over - does anyone use this card, and if so, what files do you use for a DOS boot floppy to get it to work? So, on to the actual Subject of the email. It seems the PCMCIA CD drive I have has the drivers for DOS (and I KNOW they've worked, I used to have a boot floppy with card socket services on it SOMEWHERE), but no card socket services. If I can get some DOS card socket services that work with the Lib110, I can create a boot floppy that will allow CD access, and install nice andfresh. And before people tell me to just format the HD in the Lib, move it to a desktop, and copy the CAB files over, remember the IBM overlay - it seems to be screwing with the ability of the Lib100 with Win98 to read the drive, so I'm not holding my breath about plugging it into my Win98 desktop and reading it either. Sounds like the overlay isn't installed right. Am I correct in concluding that somehow you have indeed managed to install SOMETHING on the 20GB HDD that you don't want to loose? If not, I'd start over. Can you uninstall the overlay? You may not need to. I'm not certain, but wonder if it'd be possible to delete your partitions, repartition, fdisk /mbr to create a fresh MBR, and then try installing the overlay with a different method if that's possible. The overlay works, I can boot the L100 with the drive inside. But if I put the original 2.1Gig back in, boot to Win98, and try to access the 20Gig using the external PCMCIA case, Win98 loads the PCMCIA HD drivers, but then refuses to show any extra drives in Explorer. It's either because of the overlay (more likely), or the fact that the 20G also has an active partition. Here's where I'm guessing your problem may be Tom. From what I understand, the overlay only writes part of its info in the MBR. It puts a pointer in there to the first cluster of your HDD where the rest of its data is located. Thus in order to get the overlay to work properly, I'd think the HDD would have to be booted, and not used as a slave. Matt Again, I'm assuming this is an IBM HDD since you mentioned, Since I have to use IBM's Disk Manager. Is this Ontrack overlay part of that, or something not from IBM? Would it be possible to
[LIB] cmd: unsubscribe
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 17:56:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: cmd: unsubscribe cmd: unsubscribe ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] [OT] RE: Digital cameras (danger Matt/Ray length
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 23:04:26 +0100 From: T i m [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] [OT] RE: Digital cameras (danger Matt/Ray length Folks, Did I mention I used to work for Kodak (true). T i m [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 23:39:03 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] [OT] RE: Digital cameras (danger Matt/Ray length I have found all the F stops (if that's what you call them) .. on the 50 at least, they go from F1 to F10 (though I'm not sure which is the fastest?). OK, now THAT's extremely funny. God, I wish I had said that. Say, perhaps I will! Kinda surprised you didn't point out that F10 must be fastest (as 100/110's are quicker than 50's, obviously because they have F11 and F12 built in)... ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: AW: [LIB] recording audio? (danger technical)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 03:34:34 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AW: [LIB] recording audio? (danger technical) From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] I did mean that: 16 bits * 44.1k samples per second * 2 channels = 176.4kBps = 10MBpminute. It's not as if there's *huge* quantities of data flanging around. From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Okay, I see. This really shows how relatively slow the whole data transfer can be. I should think that I'd be able to squeeze 10MB/Min / 60sec/min = 1.3...MB/seconds out of any of these HDDs, at least before Windows get's its sticky fingers in there. Sorry... that should divide out to .13MB/second. Is that right? Relatively, that's REALLY slow if it is! It's hard to thing that the L70 would have any problems recording audio, even under Windows. Matt _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] SPAM ugh...
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 03:41:09 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] SPAM ugh... From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Again, this time... am I the only one on the list getting daily, or 2/day pieces of SPAM into my mailbox every day now with a slew of similar email addresses CCed: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc Or is it just specific Hotmail users who clicked on something on the web that generated this? Each day these arrive from yet another bogus email address. Nope, I get occasional bursts cc'd to nailed*.*@hotmail... So I guess it's a pie the guys at Hotmail working with the folks up in Redlands have their fingers in, and not something happening as a result of the lib list. At least if it's only a problem for people subscribing to the list via Hotmail. Matt _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
RE: Digital cameras (was [LIB] New Website
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 03:43:20 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Digital cameras (was [LIB] New Website Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 07:58:27 From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [desperately searches for libretto link] Ah yes. It turns out that the 50/70 screen is exactly the right size to use as a lightbox for 4*5 negatives. Working on that scanner concept yet, are we? _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] SPAM ugh...
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 03:59:42 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] SPAM ugh... Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 20:47:09 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm still wondering if my suspicions are correct, and that every time someone fills in web form and submits it to the website, that his ISP email address is passed along with the info he's entered into the form. Does anyone know if one's dial-up account's email address is what is used to send web forms? Heh well it can't possibly happen on my computer ... I've never even ENTERED my ISP email address into it except in a Telnet window ;-) - Raymond I don't quite understand how MY email address gets from my Lib's W98 installation to the website I'm filling in a form for. I've only entered my email address into Eudora. But I'm wondering if Windows, or MSIE which is part of the OS, is able to grab my email address from Eudora. I know that a few years back, I used to post forms from my own website. The forms used the HTML mailto tags to send the forms to my ISP email address. The forms I submitted to myself came through with my email address listed clearly as the address the form was posted from. I also found that when people filled in a form on my website, they would frequently fill in the box for their email address. Sometimes that data matched the address the form was posted from, and sometimes it didnt. The latter I would later find out was because they had been using a friends, library, business, or school computer to submit the form. There must be enough people on the list writing HTML and server scripts who know whether or not email addresses can be harvested like this. Could it be how I have W98 set up on my L70? Matt _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
RE: Digital cameras (was [LIB] New Website
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 05:53:56 From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Digital cameras (was [LIB] New Website Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 03:43:20 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Digital cameras (was [LIB] New Website Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 07:58:27 From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [desperately searches for libretto link] Ah yes. It turns out that the 50/70 screen is exactly the right size to use as a lightbox for 4*5 negatives. Working on that scanner concept yet, are we? We're still thinking about it, but it looks like there's so much light still gets through the screen when the other pixels are off that it outshines the pixel that's doing the scanning. At the moment, we're more concerned about where our leather lib case has got to, with a spare battery in it... Neil (we used to be schizophrenic, but we're all right now) _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
