Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 17:10:53 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 20:27:14 -0400 From: Gennadiy Tsygan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] I have XP Gennadiy, in just a few words, what would you say are the biggest advantages of Win'XP over Win'2K in respect of an L100/L110+64MB+20/30/40GB kind of setup? ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 17:05:05 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] Ultimately, I would think that would be fine in a strict Win2K install, since Win2K has no problems seeing the entire drive. Over time as the drive gets used, becomes fragmented and I assume defragmented by any number of decent programs, some of the vital data may eventually migrate betond the 8gb boundary. Still, wouldn't really make a difference with Win2K since it does not have to be on a partition in the 8gb limit to boot, and I would assume that the boot partition would not be any larger than the 8gb anyway, and use the remainder for storage or program install for the less frequently used stuff. Yes, very good point - my question/scenario *should* have read:- I'm just curious - in a 20/30/40GB HDD L100/L110 scenario, if you're going to run Win'2K as your one and only OS, with the boot partition in the first 8GB and seperate partitions on each side of the space reserved for BIOS hibernation - - are these overlay programs totally redundant? And if not, what purpose would they serve in such a scenario? Perhaps make a seperate partition with your recovery info, and leave it static. Maybe even hide it, and then all you would need to do is unhide it and boot to DOS, and you are ready to restore, fix, whatever. I don't think I have heard of anyone having serious problems with a Win2K only setup and no drive overlay. I think a lot of people are so used to using them under Win9x that they go ahead and install it anyway. I have not done so, so I cannot say for certain that this is correct, but it would make sense. That's exactly what sparked my curiosity. Often it's the people who have them already that want to use them again - but I suspect that in some cases it might be a redundant over-complication. Obviously if you NEED Win'95/Win'98/etc, then it's a non-redundant complication ;-) ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 20:32:53 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] At 03:10 PM 1/05/2002 -0700, you wrote: Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 05:21:40 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] I'm just curious - in a 20/30/40GB HDD L100/L110 scenario, if you're going to run Win'2K as your one and only OS - are these overlay programs totally redundant? And if not, what purpose would they serve in such a scenario? Primarily, I think you would have problems if you had a total system crash and had to reboot from DOS to fix it. At that point you could only see the 8gb, and if the files you needed to fix whatever problem you had were beyond that, they would be inaccessible. With the overlay running, you could still access all your other partitions in DOS. This is the only circumstance that immediately comes to mind. Sounds to me like the overlay thing itself is introducing a significant level of FUD and increasing the chances that you're going to have the problems in the first place... Wouldn't it be a lot simpler/safer/reliable just to keep all the troubleshooting/recovery stuff in the first 8GB than to do the overlay thing? Actually, if you do the right thing (eg. always let the overlay load first) you don't seem to get any problems ... at least I haven't ... yet ... The problem isn't that you can't GET to your diagnostics/recovery tools. The problem is if everything goes pear shaped, how are you going to back up stuff that you had ABOVE 8 gig? Ditto for files on NTFS partitions ... often you just need to get a SINGLE text file from a machine but you have to spend an hour or so trying parallel installs, different machines, etc. when if it were FAT32 you could just boot off a boot disk and copy it across. You can see I've had practice with this ... probably a bit too much for my liking ... heh - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 20:40:14 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] At 05:30 PM 1/05/2002 -0700, you wrote: Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 20:27:14 -0400 From: Gennadiy Tsygan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] I have XP and I installed Recovery Console, which allows to boot into command prompt even on NTFS partition. I have FAT32, so I can use boot floppy too. If recovery console under XP is anything like that under 2k, its a complete pain in the backside ... gimme the ability to boot and see everything with a plain DOS boot disk anyday (which is what you get if you use an overlay and FAT32) ... lets face it, I can't think of a single advantage of using NTFS on a libretto. Apart from the slight bother factor I also can't see any reason NOT to use an overlay on the libretto given that you can damage the partition table just as easily with it as without it ... you just damage it up different ways if you don't use an overlay compared to if you do use one). Of course, thats my 2 cents on the issue ... - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] win2k source directory
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 20:38:17 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory At 03:10 PM 1/05/2002 -0700, you wrote: Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 05:21:47 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory Winnt.exe will start the install, it helps a LOT to run smartdrv before you do it though. Just curious(!!!)... why? Smartdrv helps improve disk access speeds.. Not by an awful lot though in my experience (but then again I've not done many installs on lower specced machines ...) - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] win2k source directory
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 08:30:05 -0400 From: Lawrence Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 05:21:47 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory Winnt.exe will start the install, it helps a LOT to run smartdrv before you do it though. Just curious(!!!)... why? Because it makes initial install which mainly copy files much much faster. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 20:49:31 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? Has anyone else received what appears to be a 'fake' bounced message to the email address they use on this list with the W32.Klez.gen@mm virus? I received the following weird email just now (and I only use this email address for this list) ... I've scanned my box and it comes up clean as far as this particular virus is concerned. This virus is known to spoof email addresses, one wonders if it was MY email address spoofed or was [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoofed ... *sigh* - Raymond X-Persona: __ Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-date: Wed, 01 May 2002 22:41:41 -0700 Received: from [207.217.120.12] (helo=harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by mx.mailix.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1739LY-JZ-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 01 May 2002 22:41:40 -0700 Received: from user-2ivfi93.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.201.35] helo=Cgarb) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 1739L7-0005GF-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 01 May 2002 22:41:13 -0700 From: postmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Returned mail--look,my beautiful girl friend MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=L6ny068wJIdixdG138b11Lg9P226 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 22:41:13 -0700 Content-Type: text/html; The following mail can't be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: look,my beautiful girl friend The file is the original mail attachment: Systems.scr --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 09:05:59 -0400 From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? The following mail can't be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: look,my beautiful girl friend The file is the original mail attachment: Systems.scr I don't know, but I want to look at your beautiful girl friend. Please, let me click it. Gotta click everything!!! Click click click Pres Waterman, W2PW c/o Patchogue 112 Ford//Kia 112 Long Island Ford and Kia Dealer GO BILLS! ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 20:05:50 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] gimme the ability to boot and see everything with a plain DOS boot disk anyday (which is what you get if you use an overlay and FAT32) So the only useful function of the overlay in this scenario is to give plain DOS boot disk access to the HDD *beyond* 8GB? You've already got plain DOS boot access to the first 8GB in any case, yes? ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 20:14:08 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] The problem isn't that you can't GET to your diagnostics/recovery tools. Gosh. You can't get them all in the first 8GB??? The problem is if everything goes pear shaped, how are you going to back up stuff that you had ABOVE 8 gig? Ditto for files on NTFS partitions ... often you just need to get a SINGLE text file from a machine but you have to spend an hour or so trying parallel installs, different machines, etc. when if it were FAT32 you could just boot off a boot disk and copy it across. I keep all my non-binary (/compressible) stuff in the first 8GB. Above 8GB, it's all binary (/uncompressible) stuff: - .MP3's (from CD) - .JPG's (archived to CD) - copies of (software) CD's So nothing ever gets backed up from above 8GB - it's all backed up before it gets put there. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 06:17:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin McClelland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? Raymond wrote Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 20:49:31 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? Has anyone else received what appears to be a 'fake' bounced message to the email address they use on this list with the W32.Klez.gen@mm virus? I received the following weird email just now (and I only use this email address for this list) ... I've scanned my box and it comes up clean as far as this particular virus is concerned. This virus is known to spoof email addresses, one wonders if it was MY email address spoofed or was [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoofed ... *sigh* - Raymond X-Persona: __ Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-date: Wed, 01 May 2002 22:41:41 -0700 Received: from [207.217.120.12] (helo=harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by mx.mailix.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1739LY-JZ-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 01 May 2002 22:41:40 -0700 Received: from user-2ivfi93.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.201.35] helo=Cgarb) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 1739L7-0005GF-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 01 May 2002 22:41:13 -0700 From: postmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Returned mail--look,my beautiful girl friend MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=L6ny068wJIdixdG138b11Lg9P226 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 22:41:13 -0700 Content-Type: text/html; The following mail can't be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: look,my beautiful girl friend The file is the original mail attachment: Systems.scr I haven't seen it on mine, but will keep an eye out for it. - Get your free @Elvis e-mail account at Elvis.com! http://www.elvis.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 06:28:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin McClelland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] Matthew Hanson wrote Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 03:16:26 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sounds to me like the overlay thing itself is introducing a significant level of FUD and increasing the chances that you're going to have the problems in the first place... Wouldn't it be a lot simpler/safer/reliable just to keep all the troubleshooting/recovery stuff in the first 8GB than to do the overlay thing? From: Kevin McClelland [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't think I have heard of anyone having serious problems with a Win2K only setup and no drive overlay. I think a lot of people are so used to using them under Win9x that they go ahead and install it anyway. Have I missed something (with me there's a good probability of these things)? Are there alternatives for seeing the whole 8MB HDD for Win9.x installations with Libs with this BIOS limitation? Matt (Shel) For Win9x, you must use an overlay in order to see the whole drive. I don't think there is any way around that. Otherwise you run smack into the BIOS wall at 8gb. Only real question is which one to use. EZBIOS seems to be the preferred favorite, the others do not work very well with the libretto, especially when it comes to resuming from hibernation and possibly standby. - Get your free @Elvis e-mail account at Elvis.com! http://www.elvis.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] Lib 100 266 overclock woes - resolved
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 08:11:50 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Lib 100 266 overclock woes - resolved So, having those 2 L100s, I figured out after hearing from you guys that it is not that bad, to overclock to 266. The actual bridging of the pads was not bad, but then the thing would not boot up. Power on, no video. So I figured, it mut not like the 266. So I tried 233, 200. Same no video. So I went back to 166. No video. Trembling in fear a few months back, I put it together back and it was fine. But the gnawing question remained: how comes that most can I cannot overclock to 266 ? So I tried it again over the weekend. Same exacu scenario, same results. But then, after a few more tests, I realized what happened: the damn thing NEEDS to have an HDD ! I was not putting back the HDD during the testing phase. So, with the HDD in, works great at 266. Thank you all for the good directions on how to do the modification. Runs great on my 98 L100, now it will be time to try on the L100 running win2k. Konrad ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 21:51:39 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? At 06:10 AM 2/05/2002 -0700, you wrote: Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 09:05:59 -0400 From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? The following mail can't be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: look,my beautiful girl friend The file is the original mail attachment: Systems.scr I don't know, but I want to look at your beautiful girl friend. Please, let me click it. Gotta click everything!!! Click click click Heh ... it'd be difficult even if I wanted to, seeing as I don't actually have a girlfriend ... yet ... heh - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 10:04:06 -0400 From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? Heh ... it'd be difficult even if I wanted to, seeing as I don't actually have a girlfriend ... yet ... heh I think I have a spare or 2 kicking around. I could loan you one. ( Sorry, list... it's raining here and I am boored! ) Thanks Pres Waterman W2PW c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. Long Island Ford and Kia dealer GO BILLS! ©¿© ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 22:12:56 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? At 07:05 AM 2/05/2002 -0700, you wrote: Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 10:04:06 -0400 From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? Heh ... it'd be difficult even if I wanted to, seeing as I don't actually have a girlfriend ... yet ... heh I think I have a spare or 2 kicking around. I could loan you one. ( Sorry, list... it's raining here and I am boored! ) Bah ... I don't think anyone here minds off-topic, unrelated-to-libretto posts ;-) - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] cmd:miniskirts digest
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 21:15:04 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: cmd:miniskirts digest I don't know, but I want to look at your beautiful girl friend. Please, let me click it. Gotta click everything!!! Click click click If someone writes a virus with the word miniskirt in the Subject:, Pres is gonna be a goner! ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 14:28:20 + From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 10:04:06 -0400 From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? Heh ... it'd be difficult even if I wanted to, seeing as I don't actually have a girlfriend ... yet ... heh I think I have a spare or 2 kicking around. I could loan you one. ( Sorry, list... it's raining here and I am boored! ) Those miniskirts are getting to you... _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 21:20:28 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] Have I missed something (with me there's a good probability of these things)? Are there alternatives for seeing the whole 8MB HDD for Win9.x installations with Libs with this BIOS limitation? You've missed the scenario (several times). Originally:- I'm just curious - in a 20/30/40GB HDD L100/L110 scenario, if you're going to run Win'2K as your one and only OS - are these overlay programs totally redundant? And if not, what purpose would they serve in such a scenario? Now:- I'm just curious - in a 20/30/40GB HDD L100/L110 scenario, if you're going to run Win'2K as your one and only OS, with the boot partition in the first 8GB and seperate partitions on each side of the space reserved for BIOS hibernation - - are these overlay programs totally redundant? And if not, what purpose would they serve in such a scenario? ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 21:49:29 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? Heh ... it'd be difficult even if I wanted to, seeing as I don't actually have a girlfriend ... yet ... heh I think I have a spare or 2 kicking around. I could loan you one. ( Sorry, list... it's raining here and I am boored! ) OK guys, here we go... girls in South-East Asia http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00191260f0015.jpg http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00191260f0016.jpg http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00191260f0019.jpg http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00191260f0026.jpg http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00191260f0059.jpg http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00191260f0066.jpg http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00191260f0067.jpg All pics made possible by virtue of the Libretto in my backpack, hence not *completely* off-topic... ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 12:19:11 -0400 From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? Those miniskirts are getting to you... miniskirts have ALWAYS gotten to me. Miniskirts have always gotten to you or have YOU always gotten to the miniskirts? I don't always get to them but they usually get to me! Thanks Pres Waterman W2PW c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. Long Island Ford and Kia dealer GO BILLS! ©¿© ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
XP vs. 2000 | Was: Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 13:05:25 -0400 From: Gennadiy Tsygan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: XP vs. 2000 | Was: Re: overlay programs [LIB] Best feature about XP is Cleartype fonts. They don't help much on CRT screens, but on LCD, specially small ones, text looks better by a long shot. More information here: http://www.microsoft.com/typography/cleartype/ I've been using XP on desktop and I like user interface more then 2000. While I have not benchmarked it, I don't think that XP is slower then 2000, after all it is a relatively minor update, 2000 being NT 5.0 and XP NT 5.1 There are several features I turned off in XP for performance reasons, and I am happy with performance. It works with all PCMCIA devices I tried, and has no problems with standby and hibernation. I installed it over the network, because my CD-ROM does not work in DOS I have XP Gennadiy, in just a few words, what would you say are the biggest advantages of Win'XP over Win'2K in respect of an L100/L110+64MB+20/30/40GB kind of setup? ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 13:11:15 -0400 From: Gennadiy Tsygan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] Recovery Console is a pain, but it gives you some repair tools not available in DOS, like controlling start up services. Microsoft says that NTFS performs better, but I still use FAT32 on first 8GB, so I could boot from floppy. I use NTFS on second partition because it is not accessible by DOS anyway. If recovery console under XP is anything like that under 2k, its a complete pain in the backside ... gimme the ability to boot and see everything with a plain DOS boot disk anyday (which is what you get if you use an overlay and FAT32) ... lets face it, I can't think of a single advantage of using NTFS on a libretto. Apart from the slight bother factor I also can't see any reason NOT to use an overlay on the libretto given that you can damage the partition table just as easily with it as without it ... you just damage it up different ways if you don't use an overlay compared to if you do use one). Of course, thats my 2 cents on the issue ... - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 10:34:03 -0700 (PDT) From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb Dave's Adorable site used to have it at http://160.87.24.214/ezdrv909.zip - doesn't work now :-/ I guess we'd better find a new copy somewhere and have someone host it. Still there today! Gotta excuse the PC it's on - crashes every now and then. Grab it while you can! WD EZ-Drive 9.09 installing EZ-BIOS 9.06 (the good version) that'll work on any HD out there. Is happy with my Hitachi HD. Works great! No problems at all, and even Partition Magic and Ghost works just fine with it running. (for Ghost, make sure you tick off the direct INT 13 interrupt access in Options) Have it dual booting right now with 4 partitions total w/o any problems at all over the entire HD. Just make sure you partition right around the 8.4GB limit (usually 1010-1040 cylinders on my L110 and HD) so that hibernating won't kill your data. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 10:46:47 -0700 From: Chester Prudhomme [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? Kevin McClelland wrote: Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? Raymond wrote Has anyone else received what appears to be a 'fake' bounced message to the email address they use on this list with the W32.Klez.gen@mm virus? I received the following weird email just now (and I only use this email address for this list) ... I've scanned my box and it comes up clean as far as this particular virus is concerned. This virus is known to spoof email addresses, one wonders if it was MY email address spoofed or was [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoofed ... *sigh* Raymond I'm sort of amazed that nobody here has seen much of the Klez virus yet. It is endemic world-wide (TrendMicro says it has infected 7 1/2% of computers WW!) and I've had 24 attempts at delivering it to me in the last 3 days (thank gawd for postini, I go look at them at my ISP site and then delete them). It does spoof email addresses as well as mixing them up to further disguise and confuse the recipient. It will also open the attachment without giving you a chance to say no to the download. It will forward your files randomly to other recipients. Pretty insidious stuff - all those Chinese schoolboys must be bored this spring vacation!? Chester ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 00:44:39 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] Microsoft says that NTFS performs better It's primarily a speed advantage? Is there a vague rule-of-thunb figure for how much? ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] 50CT, 70CT and 100CT service manuals
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 10:48:43 -0700 (PDT) From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] 50CT, 70CT and 100CT service manuals http://160.87.24.214/l5070mm.zip ~2MB http://160.87.24.214/l100mm.zip ~1MB Also on my Libretto Information CD sold on my site below. = adorable toshiba libretto The latest news and information for the Toshiba Libretto owner. http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] 50CT, 70CT and 100CT service manuals
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 14:06:11 -0400 From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] 50CT, 70CT and 100CT service manuals http://160.87.24.214/l100mm.zip ~1MB gives 425 HTTP Error Unable to connect with remote host. Thanks Pres Waterman W2PW c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. Long Island Ford and Kia dealer GO BILLS! ©¿© ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 11:09:46 -0700 From: Tom Stangl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? Luckily NAV works just fine to remove it. I've gotten DOZENS of copies of it within the last couple of weeks. Chester Prudhomme wrote: Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 10:46:47 -0700 From: Chester Prudhomme [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? Kevin McClelland wrote: Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? Raymond wrote Has anyone else received what appears to be a 'fake' bounced message to the email address they use on this list with the W32.Klez.gen@mm virus? I received the following weird email just now (and I only use this email address for this list) ... I've scanned my box and it comes up clean as far as this particular virus is concerned. This virus is known to spoof email addresses, one wonders if it was MY email address spoofed or was [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoofed ... *sigh* Raymond I'm sort of amazed that nobody here has seen much of the Klez virus yet. It is endemic world-wide (TrendMicro says it has infected 7 1/2% of computers WW!) and I've had 24 attempts at delivering it to me in the last 3 days (thank gawd for postini, I go look at them at my ISP site and then delete them). It does spoof email addresses as well as mixing them up to further disguise and confuse the recipient. It will also open the attachment without giving you a chance to say no to the download. It will forward your files randomly to other recipients. Pretty insidious stuff - all those Chinese schoolboys must be bored this spring vacation!? -- | Tom Stangl, Sun ONE Internet Technical Support, Sun Microsystems | iPlanet Support - http://www.sun.com/service/support/software/iplanet/index.html | Please do not associate my personal views with my employer ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 01:35:03 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? It will also open the attachment without giving you a chance to say no to the download. But you had the chance to have your security settings say no... yes? ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] unsuscribe
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 03:39:23 -0300 From: Leonardo Armesto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: unsuscribe ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 09:54:23 -0700 From: Renita Herrmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? Uh-oh. Bar 717 is a camp in the redwoods in Northern California that my son is going to this summer. I got a weird email last night, but didn't open it. I appeared to come from me (my initial and last name) but it came from my brother when checked. I called him this AM to check but he wasn't in. My computer was making more noise than usual so I did a date search and didn't see anything unusual. I will check it again. I have Norton activated all the time (pain in the butt)...keep me updated. Renita - Original Message - From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 5:56 AM Subject: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 20:49:31 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? Has anyone else received what appears to be a 'fake' bounced message to the email address they use on this list with the W32.Klez.gen@mm virus? I received the following weird email just now (and I only use this email address for this list) ... I've scanned my box and it comes up clean as far as this particular virus is concerned. This virus is known to spoof email addresses, one wonders if it was MY email address spoofed or was [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoofed ... *sigh* - Raymond X-Persona: __ Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-date: Wed, 01 May 2002 22:41:41 -0700 Received: from [207.217.120.12] (helo=harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net) by mx.mailix.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1739LY-JZ-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 01 May 2002 22:41:40 -0700 Received: from user-2ivfi93.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.201.35] helo=Cgarb) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 1739L7-0005GF-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 01 May 2002 22:41:13 -0700 From: postmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Returned mail--look,my beautiful girl friend MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=L6ny068wJIdixdG138b11Lg9P226 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 22:41:13 -0700 Content-Type: text/html; The following mail can't be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: look,my beautiful girl friend The file is the original mail attachment: Systems.scr --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 02:25:00 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? It will also open the attachment without giving you a chance to say no to the download. But you had the chance to have your security settings say no... yes? Yes...I guess, but I can't say firsthand - it hasn't gotten past my ISP virus software to my PC...yet! My point is, it will only open the attachment without giving you a chance to say no to the download if you give permission for things to be opened without giving you the chance to say no. So to say It will also open the attachment without giving you a chance to say no to the download is a bit... daft? ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 12:30:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin McClelland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? Bah ... I don't think anyone here minds off-topic, unrelated-to-libretto posts ;-) Of course we don't. After all, we truly love talking about digital cameras, f/stop and focal length, and the proper method to unsubcribble. It is what we do, no? - Get your free @Elvis e-mail account at Elvis.com! http://www.elvis.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 02:35:44 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? Renita, two questions - then possibly a request. (1) is the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] in your address book? (2) is the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] in your address book? If the answer to both questions is yes, please can you delete [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TIA ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 12:32:26 -0700 From: Chester Prudhomme [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? Below is a link to a pretty good analysis of the Klex virus. Chester http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105-891854.html ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
RE: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 12:51:44 -0700 From: Eamon Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: overlay programs [LIB] I remember people benchmarking this for purposes of video editing, ntfs consistently reads faster than fat32, but writes slower, for large files. There is also some cpu overhead from ntfs security. Turn off indexing for more speed.. I don't remember the percentages though, and that was NTFS4. It also has a lot less file fragmentation so that's a speed bonus too. You can also selectively compress files or folders. However, it also uses more memory so that may be a consideration if your lib only has 64mb. My affection for NTFS is from the faster recovery after a crash, and much fewer damaged files due to journaling. I guess that is better performance for most things. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:50 AM To: Libretto Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 00:44:39 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] Microsoft says that NTFS performs better It's primarily a speed advantage? Is there a vague rule-of-thunb figure for how much? ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 12:40:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin McClelland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] Would it be possible to have a Win'2K/Win'95 dual boot setup (or Win'2K/Win'98) where Win'2K has access to all the partitions on a big HDD, but Win'95/98 just sees the BIOS-accessible 8GB and is prevented from accessing the rest? I'm thinking the first 8Gb could be regarded as the space in which all shared data must go, the remainder would be Win'2K exclusive data (and you wouldn't need to do the overlay thing). It might be possible. I never tried it myself, but it would seem to make sense. With no overlay Win9x should be limited to just the 8gb portion, and never see the Win2k install or the rest of the drive. However, I do not know if Win95 might make changes to the FAT system that could potentially interfere with Win2K, since they are basically seeing different drives. With an overlay running, I would think that kind of activity would be controlled through the overlay, and thus prevent damage to the FAT. I am not certain on that, but it seems that it may happen. I think I used to have problems with the FAT on my old HDD with both Win95 and Win2K every once in a while when I ran a disk scan, but my memory may be failing me. Plus I had both OS running on a 2.1gb HDD on the same partition. Strange that they were able to peacefully (for the most part) co-exist. - Get your free @Elvis e-mail account at Elvis.com! http://www.elvis.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 02:58:12 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? It will also open the attachment without giving you a chance to say no to the download. But you had the chance to have your security settings say no... yes? Yes...I guess, but I can't say firsthand - it hasn't gotten past my ISP virus software to my PC...yet! My point is, it will only open the attachment without giving you a chance to say no to the download if you give permission for things to be opened without giving you the chance to say no. So to say It will also open the attachment without giving you a chance to say no to the download is a bit... daft? Daft you say?..hmm, I feel like I'm in a Noel Coward movie. You'll have to explain that one - I'm a heathen Actually, it apparently will open attachments without permission as it did that to a friend of mine who had the correct security setting. Which software was the culprit? ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 12:44:43 -0700 From: Chester Prudhomme [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 02:25:00 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? It will also open the attachment without giving you a chance to say no to the download. But you had the chance to have your security settings say no... yes? Yes...I guess, but I can't say firsthand - it hasn't gotten past my ISP virus software to my PC...yet! My point is, it will only open the attachment without giving you a chance to say no to the download if you give permission for things to be opened without giving you the chance to say no. So to say It will also open the attachment without giving you a chance to say no to the download is a bit... daft? Daft you say?..hmm, I feel like I'm in a Noel Coward movie. Actually, it apparently will open attachments without permission as it did that to a friend of mine who had the correct security setting. Chester ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 03:06:30 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] Would it be possible to have a Win'2K/Win'95 dual boot setup (or Win'2K/Win'98) where Win'2K has access to all the partitions on a big HDD, but Win'95/98 just sees the BIOS-accessible 8GB and is prevented from accessing the rest? I'm thinking the first 8Gb could be regarded as the space in which all shared data must go, the remainder would be Win'2K exclusive data (and you wouldn't need to do the overlay thing). It might be possible. I never tried it myself, but it would seem to make sense. With no overlay Win9x should be limited to just the 8gb portion, and never see the Win2k install or the rest of the drive. Nope, it's not that simple. Win'98 can see my entire 30GB HDD without any overlay. If I used it to write to the partitions beyond 8GB, I'd expect them to become corrupt. I'm asking if there's a way to deliberately prevent Win'95/98 seeing the partitions, but which would not prevent Win'2K seeing the whole drive (I'm thinking it ought to be automatic, whichever OS you choose to boot, gets to see what is appropriate). ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 20:28:22 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have I missed something (with me there's a good probability of these things)? Are there alternatives for seeing the whole 8MB HDD for Win9.x installations with Libs with this BIOS limitation? You've missed the scenario (several times). Originally:- I'm just curious - in a 20/30/40GB HDD L100/L110 scenario, if you're going to run Win'2K as your one and only OS - are these overlay programs totally redundant? And if not, what purpose would they serve in such a scenario? Now:- I'm just curious - in a 20/30/40GB HDD L100/L110 scenario, if you're going to run Win'2K as your one and only OS, with the boot partition in the first 8GB and seperate partitions on each side of the space reserved for BIOS hibernation - - are these overlay programs totally redundant? And if not, what purpose would they serve in such a scenario? Hmmm... guess most of Bhutan is following all this pretty well. I'll just take a bottle of cheap whiskey and head back to the reservation in my pickup... Thanks Kimosabe. _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 14:29:04 -0700 From: Chester Prudhomme [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 02:58:12 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? It will also open the attachment without giving you a chance to say no to the download. But you had the chance to have your security settings say no... yes? Yes...I guess, but I can't say firsthand - it hasn't gotten past my ISP virus software to my PC...yet! My point is, it will only open the attachment without giving you a chance to say no to the download if you give permission for things to be opened without giving you the chance to say no. So to say It will also open the attachment without giving you a chance to say no to the download is a bit... daft? Daft you say?..hmm, I feel like I'm in a Noel Coward movie. You'll have to explain that one - I'm a heathen Actually, it apparently will open attachments without permission as it did that to a friend of mine who had the correct security setting. Which software was the culprit? Norton AV2001, he also ran the Norton AV scan 3 times before it picked up the infected files. Chester ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 15:22:13 -0700 From: Chester Prudhomme [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 04:38:04 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? Actually, it apparently will open attachments without permission as it did that to a friend of mine who had the correct security setting. Which software was the culprit? Norton AV2001, he also ran the Norton AV scan 3 times before it picked up the infected files. I meant - which software opened the attachment despite having security settings which were supposed to prevent that from happening I don't know, I'll call him tonight and ask him. Chester ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 05:41:04 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? Actually, it apparently will open attachments without permission as it did that to a friend of mine who had the correct security setting. Which software was the culprit? Norton AV2001, he also ran the Norton AV scan 3 times before it picked up the infected files. I meant - which software opened the attachment despite having security settings which were supposed to prevent that from happening I don't know, I'll call him tonight and ask him. I'm wondering if it's something other than an unpatched copy of one of the Outlook Express versions specified in the zdnet.com link you posted Below is a link to a pretty good analysis of the Klex virus. http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105-891854.html Klez.h uses a well-known vulnerability in Outlook Express that is included in versions of Internet Explorer 5.01 and 5.5. Microsoft has previously released a patch for this. Users who have not loaded the patch are encouraged to do so or to upgrade to Internet Explorer 6 using the full installation setting. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 07:01:33 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] At 10:16 AM 2/05/2002 -0700, you wrote: Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 13:11:15 -0400 From: Gennadiy Tsygan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] Recovery Console is a pain, but it gives you some repair tools not available in DOS, like controlling start up services. If you use FAT32 and the drive overlay you can still use the recovery console. It also means that you can use all your DOS diagnostics and recovery tools plus its a darn sight faster to get into ... Microsoft says that NTFS performs better, NTFS performs better in some ways (for instance it is less affected by fragmentation, you get faster index seeks, etc.) however most of these pertain to fast disks (as one used to find in servers and workstations and what one now finds in many desktops). The actual performance increase is minimal if not non-existant in a slower machine like a libretto with its slower disk subsystem. In fact it may turn out to be slightly slower because whilst it may be FASTER to access a bit of the index, there is a hellava lot more bookkeeping required. The 2 biggest disadvantages for me however is that firstly, data recovery is almost impossible under NTFS if things start going pear shaped and secondly, if you find you've left something on the disk and you somehow can't boot the OS, you can either whack in a floppy diskette or borrow someone's computer, be it a Linux, Win9x or WinNT/2k/XP box, put the drive in (I always carry around the drive converter and a screwdriver suitable for both opening the libby and opening your average PC case) and run with it. I think these 2 are more important in a portable computer than the rather nebulous probability of better performance. If you need security, NTFS doesn't offer it anyway as an adversary can always put the drive into another computer. If you need security as well, do it properly and get something like PGP Disk (which runs surprisingly fast on even an L50). As you can probably gather, I tend to have things go pear shaped on me so the ability to recover things quickly (or at least get my work off such that I save time by doing so compared with recreating the work between now and my last backup) and reliably is very important. Anyways thats my 2 cents on the issue. - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 07:07:52 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] At 10:50 AM 2/05/2002 -0700, you wrote: Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 00:44:39 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] Microsoft says that NTFS performs better It's primarily a speed advantage? Is there a vague rule-of-thunb figure for how much? NTFS uses a different file indexing structure to your standard FAT12/16/32 which means that disk fragmentation doesn't affect index lookup times as much (although it will still affect contiguous disk access times) and random index lookups (eg. tell me where the 4356581'th byte of this file is NOW!) are significantly faster. It also does a lot of other stuff for security and bookkeeping so *in theory* you won't need other recovery tools. In practice however if things do go pear shaped for reasons NOT relating to the file system (eg. someone deleting a file, virus, badly behaved program, your libby crashing, overheat shutdowns, etc.) and the file system gets corrupted or you otherwise need to work with it, its a complete pain in the backside. Besides all that extra junk more than cancels out the speed increase on a slower machine like the libby IMHO. For a powerful desktop where you're doing a lot of disk work then ya I can see how NTFS *might* be an advantage but even on my desktop I keep all my critical stuff on FAT32 ... if my Win2k installation dies and I have something that must be done in the next 3 hours, I can still flip over to 98 and keep going where I left off. Lets see you do THAT with recovery console ;-) - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 07:11:09 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? At 12:35 PM 2/05/2002 -0700, you wrote: Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 12:30:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin McClelland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? Bah ... I don't think anyone here minds off-topic, unrelated-to-libretto posts ;-) Of course we don't. After all, we truly love talking about digital cameras, f/stop and focal length, and the proper method to unsubcribble. It is what we do, no? Actually, I think Pres corrected me in saying it was unscribble, not unSUBscribble ;-) - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 07:15:48 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? At 12:41 PM 2/05/2002 -0700, you wrote: Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 02:35:44 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? Renita, two questions - then possibly a request. (1) is the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] in your address book? (2) is the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] in your address book? If the answer to both questions is yes, please can you delete [EMAIL PROTECTED] - TIA Even better, my address book sits on my Palm which is completely separate to all my emailing stuff! (I've not activated any address book links or anything). I'm not *TOO* fussed about raybotlst ... I only use that email on this list (and for people who I talk to on this list) and if things go weird I can have a block put on it and open up another address. I made a point about this virus on this list because chances are, the computer that is infected is being used to check these emails (the could not have gotten this address otherwise) ... I do think it is jumping a bit to conclusions to think that Renita's computer has the virus ... NAV picks it up straight away and several other virus scanners also have it on their databases ... the virus isn't actually all that new (although it recently mutated significantly, I don't think the one I received was a new variant given my virus scanner flagged it as .gen for generic as opposed to .H or .E for the newer ones). - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 07:18:46 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? At 12:51 PM 2/05/2002 -0700, you wrote: Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 12:44:43 -0700 From: Chester Prudhomme [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 02:25:00 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? It will also open the attachment without giving you a chance to say no to the download. But you had the chance to have your security settings say no... yes? Yes...I guess, but I can't say firsthand - it hasn't gotten past my ISP virus software to my PC...yet! My point is, it will only open the attachment without giving you a chance to say no to the download if you give permission for things to be opened without giving you the chance to say no. So to say It will also open the attachment without giving you a chance to say no to the download is a bit... daft? Daft you say?..hmm, I feel like I'm in a Noel Coward movie. Actually, it apparently will open attachments without permission as it did that to a friend of mine who had the correct security setting. MS-bash Well if you're using Outlook [Express] you deserve everything coming at you! GO PINE! /MS-bash ;-) Seriously though, with a decent virus scanner even if it did auto-open it won't manage to pull the file anyway. That and/or use Eudora if you MUST get your HTML emails. - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 07:23:29 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? At 02:45 PM 2/05/2002 -0700, you wrote: Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 04:38:04 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? Actually, it apparently will open attachments without permission as it did that to a friend of mine who had the correct security setting. Which software was the culprit? Norton AV2001, he also ran the Norton AV scan 3 times before it picked up the infected files. Strange ... was it (NAV) updated? I'ive got NAV2001 ... Eudora had hardly finished downloading it than NAV quarantined it. - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] 50CT, 70CT and 100CT service manuals
Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 07:33:32 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] 50CT, 70CT and 100CT service manuals At 10:50 AM 2/05/2002 -0700, you wrote: Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 10:48:43 -0700 (PDT) From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] 50CT, 70CT and 100CT service manuals http://160.87.24.214/l5070mm.zip ~2MB http://160.87.24.214/l100mm.zip ~1MB Ooh GIMME GIMME GIMMME GIMMMumm ... bummer ... 'Socket Error 10061' errors :-( Has your IP changed? That IP (s24n214.dhcp.mc.uci.edu) looks like a dynamic one ... - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 07:22:18 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] At 01:16 PM 2/05/2002 -0700, you wrote: Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 03:06:30 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] Would it be possible to have a Win'2K/Win'95 dual boot setup (or Win'2K/Win'98) where Win'2K has access to all the partitions on a big HDD, but Win'95/98 just sees the BIOS-accessible 8GB and is prevented from accessing the rest? I'm thinking the first 8Gb could be regarded as the space in which all shared data must go, the remainder would be Win'2K exclusive data (and you wouldn't need to do the overlay thing). It might be possible. I never tried it myself, but it would seem to make sense. With no overlay Win9x should be limited to just the 8gb portion, and never see the Win2k install or the rest of the drive. Nope, it's not that simple. Win'98 can see my entire 30GB HDD without any overlay. If I used it to write to the partitions beyond 8GB, I'd expect them to become corrupt. Actually that too isn't *quite* correct. Even Win95OSR2 can *see* past there but with the exception of partition editing tools, if you're likely to corrupt things it won't let you write there. Either way though, how much extra effort is it to put an overlay on given things can go pear shaped with equal ease either way? At least an overlay has been tested to work well with these dual boots (Win98SE/RedHat 6.2 here for instance, NT4 coming soon). I'm asking if there's a way to deliberately prevent Win'95/98 seeing the partitions, but which would not prevent Win'2K seeing the whole drive (I'm thinking it ought to be automatic, whichever OS you choose to boot, gets to see what is appropriate). That would seem a little strange to me ... after all, the point of a dual boot is to let 2 OS's access portions of the same data no? - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around?
Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 09:42:23 +0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus floating around? My point is, it will only open the attachment without giving you a chance to say no to the download if you give permission for things to be opened without giving you the chance to say no. So to say It will also open the attachment without giving you a chance to say no to the download is a bit... daft? Not really. I am not sure how, but this thing definitely runs. For example, in the rare occasions I have to use the web to look at email http://www.mail2web.com ) I peeked at some mail with an attachment and it proceeded to run something... it said open in place or save to disk?... I've had four copies, and it definitely cannot open/run itself on my Win'2K/IE6/OE6 setup. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
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Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 15:44:28 +0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb
So I'm finally taking the big step and am in the
process of upgrading
my HD to a 20GB one. I'm following some advice I
saw on the list a
while ago, using a windows boot disk's fdisk to
partition out the
first 8.4 minus hibernation space, and a second
hibernation partition,
then use a disk manager to partition the rest.
However, when I tried
to fdisk, it can only see 7978 MB, and will only
let me parition 1137
MB. Any ideas as to why? I'm using a Win95 OSR2
boot disk, my BIOS
hasn't been upgraded (it's still 6.40), the HD is
an IBM-DJSA-220.
Don't know...
What model of Libretto?
What OS('s) are you going to run?
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Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 10:21:47 +0100 (GMT/BST)
From: Digby Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb
Hmm, I make 7,978MB = 8,365,539,328 which sounds
close enough to me...
(you do know 1GB is not 1000 MB right??? )
I measured the hibernation start as 8,373,335,040 on
my 100CT, but the
BIOS may be holding back a little more for some
reason. Probably rounding
to the nearest cylinder boundry according the the
mapped geometry
(multiple of 16065 sectors). Of course aligning to
virtual cylinder
boundries is completely pointless, but that is
Microsoft for you..
You don't have to reserve space for the hibernation
partion if using
windows FDISK. It gets the drive size from the BIOS,
which automatically
subtracts what it needs. That is the advantage of
doing the FDISK on
the Libretto rather than on a desktop. In fact it
reserves 64M for
hibernation, and an additional 12GB out of
stupidity.
The point where you have to be careful is when you
use a more powerful
os which knows about the entire disk to allocate the
space on the
other side of the hibernation area.
Don't know about the 1137MB limit. Did you enable
support for large
disks when starting FDISK?
Regards,
DigbyT
P.S. You didn't mention which Libretto you have -
they may behave
slightly differently.
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 05:44:35 +
From: Cerulean Skies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: fdisk cannot partition 8.4gb
So I'm finally taking the big step and am in the
process of upgrading my HD
to a 20GB one. I'm following some advice I saw on
the list a while ago,
using a windows boot disk's fdisk to partition out
the first 8.4 minus
hibernation space, and a second hibernation
partition, then use a disk
manager to partition the rest. However, when I
tried to fdisk, it can only
see 7978 MB, and will only let me parition 1137
MB. Any ideas as to why?
I'm using a Win95 OSR2 boot disk, my
Re: overlay programs [LIB]
Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 00:11:06 -0400 From: Gennadiy Tsygan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: overlay programs [LIB] I have never seen an exact figure. I would think, it varies wildly, depending of file size, location, fragmentation, etc. I'll try to search Microsoft web site for more info. Microsoft says that NTFS performs better It's primarily a speed advantage? Is there a vague rule-of-thunb figure for how much? ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] win2k source directory
Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 00:19:27 -0400 From: Gennadiy Tsygan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] win2k source directory Smartdrv helps improve disk access speeds.. Not by an awful lot though in my experience (but then again I've not done many installs on lower specced machines ...) You are right, I don't remember it giving big gains in regular work, back in the DOS days, but improvements during the first phase of NT/2000/XP setup are HUGE. I am talking at least 5 fold. Without smartdrive you will start setup one day and finish next! If you set up other machines, you likely booted with nt/2000 CD. In this case smartdrive is loaded automatically. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
