Re: [LIB] Overlay program wanted
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:14:14 -0500 From: David Nedved [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Overlay program wanted Hi Raymond, Thanks for the response... I've given up on keeping my 8gb windows intall. I've gone ahead and intalled IBM disk manager (couldn't find the ez-drive posts you mentioned) and let it create one 8gb partition. Interesting that when I went to install version 9.5.7 it wanted to create one partition of 39.9gb (ie it saw the whole drive) but I went back to 9.4.3 which created one partition of 8gb (ie it only saw the bios limited part) and then upgraded to 9.5.7 for the heck of it. Now I've got my 8gb partition, I've got my overlay, and when I boot up fdisk sees the whole drive. I guess I understand a little bit more about how these overlays work now. I guess they install an additional 8k at the beginning of the drive, and then trick the BIOS into thinking it's not there? Now, the way I used to do it was pop the drive into my linux desktop, and manually create the second partition skipping about 80MB or so for the hibernation partition. I didn't have a problem the last time I did it, but that doesn't necesarily mean anything. Am I going to have problems since I'm modifying the partition table with an OS that's not running through the overlay? How else do I create a second partition while skipping the hibernation space? The dos fdisk is so retarded I can't even make more than one primary partition even though I know that the DOS partition table allows for up to 4... all I can do is create an extended partition, and there can only be one, and I'm sure it will create it in the bad place at the end of the 8gb... I've actually got a backup of my win98 install, I'll post a separate message asking for help on how to restore it! Thanks a ton for the responses! David On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 05:09:23PM -0800, Raymond wrote: Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 08:36:31 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Overlay program wanted At 10:09 AM 18/11/2002 -0800, you wrote: Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:07:26 -0500 From: David Nedved [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Overlay program wanted Hi All, I'm upgrading my HD to a 40 gb. I've got Win98 loaded and running on an 8gb partition, and I'm all ready to add the overlay and be able to access the remainder of the drive. I've used IBM Disk Manager before, but it has a horribly cryptic menu system. The only options that would seem to make sense, are to convert the drive to their proprietary format (what does that mean?) or to let it blow away my partition table and recreate it. I'm using EZ-Bios 9.06W by Micro House International (it did ship for Western Digital but it doesn't seem to mind the Fujitsu I've got) and have had it work nicely on both my L50 and L100. Somewhere in the archives are 2 speals by me on how to get it all working with various setups (for instance I'm now using in with a 20 gig Fujitsu, triple booting Win98SE, Red Hat Linux 6.2 and Win2k, all accessing the hard drive through the overlay). I did run into a few pitfalls which you may like to avoid! Search for ezdrive.zip or ezdrv909.zip in the archives. Note that EZ-DRIVE distribution version 9.09W actually contains EZ-BIOS version 9.06W ... go figure ... hehe Just remember that once it's on there, any time you modify the partition table, you *must* have booted from the hard drive and loaded EZ-Bios. Forgetting to do this is a sure way of screwing up the partition tables as everything will be offset by 8KBytes. Also, whilst it *is* possible to install it and not destroy your current partitioning scheme, in my experience unless it's a stock standard partitioning scheme, it's better to install it and get it to blow everything away. Oh and remember to leave space for hibernation at between 1010 and 1040 cylinders! Hope this helps! - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | | ICQ: 31756092 | Libretto IRC channel #Libretto on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] ghosting windows installations under linux
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:21:27 -0500 From: David Nedved [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ghosting windows installations under linux Hi All, Anyone have experience using standard linux tools to ghost a windows partition? I had to blow away and repartition my hard drive to get the overlay installed. Prior to this I popped the drive into my linux desktop and tarred up the entire drive. I've got my drive reinstalled, I've got the overlay installed, I've got it sys'd from a win98 boot disk. I tried extracting all the files from the tarball back onto the disk (except for the dos files in the root directory: msdos.sys, command.com, etc.). Now the machine boots back into the command line as if windows isn't even there. If I type win it complains about himem.sys not being in the windows directory (even though it is). I thought these were all just standard files, and that other than the boot sectors, the positions of these files physically on the disk didn't really matter? I've got the output of a dd of the entire partition, and I'm able to extract it to another drive and it works just fine, but since I've installed the overlay, I'm expecting that my partition is approx 8kb smaller, so I can't dd the contents of the old partition onto it since it's smaller. Has anyone else ever used linux tools to backup and restore a windows intallation? Anyone know enough about the guts of win98se to know how to get it booting into the window manager instead of just the command line? Thanks in advance for any pointers, David ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] HELP!!!! My 50ct can't boot up suddenly after
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 20:04:08 +0100 From: Julian Vassaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] HELP My 50ct can't boot up suddenly after Hi ! I have a Lib50 overclocked at 100Mhz and I have no problem with a 20G IBM hdd. That's a Travelstar 40GN Do people experience problems with the 40GN series? I was thinking only the 20GN had the problem. Julian Raymond wrote: Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 08:40:49 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] HELP My 50ct can't boot up suddenly after overclock! At 03:27 PM 18/11/2002 -0800, you wrote: Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 07:26:22 +0800 (CST) From: =?big5?q?tradelink=20tradelink?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: HELP My 50ct can't boot up suddenly after overclock! I am now using IBM 6.4G harddisk Travelstar 6GN (model : DBCA-206480), it worked find until I overclocked my 50ct Uh oh ... I cut the pin 15 of W48C54A chip last night and hope my 50ct will go up to 100MHz. My bad dream come. My 50ct can't boot up again no matter I :- 1) boot up with floppy and fdisk/mbr or 2) boot up with floppy, delete my FAT partitions (I used to boot from FAT partition), recreate them and format/s the boot partition again Yup ... and if you look in the archives, you'll realize that, of all hard drives, IBM seem to be the only one that has this problem unfortunately ... when you cut that pin to clock to 100MHz, you're raising the bus speed by 25%. Problem is you're also raising the speed of the IDE controller by that amount and it looks like the consensus is that the IBM drives are the only ones that don't like that ... probably it's fussy about rise and fall times or signal shape or something. So there are 2 options ... downclock (solder that pin back) or get yourself a nice new 40GB Fujitsu/Seagate/Toshiba/anything other than IBM! I was using a Fujitsu 20GB hard drive in my overclocked L50 and it seemed quite happy ... it's also quite happy in my L100 which is clocked from 166 to 233 (but I *think* that's a multiplier clock and not a bus frequency clock). Remember that you need a drive overlay to see beyond 1024 cylinders (about 8 gig). See my reply to David Nedved's post or search in the archives for ezdrv909.zip . Hope this helps! - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | | ICQ: 31756092 | Libretto IRC channel #Libretto on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Overclocked CPU stress testing?
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:23:15 -0800 (PST) From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Overclocked CPU stress testing? Running MP3 encoder should load CPU a lot. but it won't stress the Hd at the same time, which generates a lot more heat if you have it running at the same time as the CPU. Otherwise, you'll just be stressing the CPU, and the HD will sit cool. = adorable toshiba libretto The latest news and information for the Toshiba Libretto owner. http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] HELP!!!! My 50ct can't boot up suddenly after overclock!!!!!
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:33:12 -0800 (PST) From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] HELP My 50ct can't boot up suddenly after overclock! Some HDs will not work after OC'ing. undo the OC and it will work again. = adorable toshiba libretto The latest news and information for the Toshiba Libretto owner. http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Overlay program wanted
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 09:18:52 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Overlay program wanted At 08:15 AM 19/11/2002 -0800, you wrote: Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:14:14 -0500 From: David Nedved [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Overlay program wanted Hi Raymond, Thanks for the response... I've given up on keeping my 8gb windows intall. I've gone ahead and intalled IBM disk manager (couldn't find the ez-drive posts you mentioned) and let it create one 8gb partition. Look for posts with the subject [LIB] 20 gig Fujitsu in an overclocked L50 and working! and Experiences trying to get Linux onto this @!#@#$@#$@#$# thing! in the archives (there's a link to a searchable one from www.silverace.com/libretto if I recall correctly). IBM disk manager is *similar* to EZ-Drive if I recall correctly. Interesting that when I went to install version 9.5.7 it wanted to create one partition of 39.9gb (ie it saw the whole drive) but I went back to 9.4.3 which created one partition of 8gb (ie it only saw the bios limited part) and then upgraded to 9.5.7 for the heck of it. Now I've got my 8gb partition, I've got my overlay, and when I boot up fdisk sees the whole drive. Uh oh ... OK be *very* careful that the partition table is consistent. I had a similar problem (I think it's in one of the speals in the posts up there) where creating things with EZ-Drive enabled then without and getting things horribly mixed up. I guess I understand a little bit more about how these overlays work now. I guess they install an additional 8k at the beginning of the drive, and then trick the BIOS into thinking it's not there? Not quite. Again I think I've got a bit of a thing about this in those posts but in short, the BIOS is loaded into memory and has, amongst other things, INT13h routines for the OS to use to access the hard drive. The problem is these routines on the Libretto don't see above 1024 cylinders. What the drive overlay does is it sits on the MBR and loads before the OS does. It looks for these routines in memory and overwrites them with routines which are capable of seeing 1024 cylinders (it 'overlays' the BIOS's INT13h routines so it should really be called a BIOS overlay as opposed to a disk overlay). Once it's done that, it then loads the original MBR (which is actually displaced by 8k). Now the problem is this stuff takes up space so part of what those routines do is also trick whoever calls them (ie. the OS) into thinking that the MBR, partition table, etc. starts 8k after what it actually does. Note that it doesn't actually tell the BIOS anything, hence the hibernation area will exist where the BIOS thinks the end of the drive is, which is 1024 cylinders. You will get problems with some programs that do direct IDE access (such as Norton Ghost, which you can force to INT13h mode using the -ffx switch). Linux (at least Red Hat 6.2 and above but IIRC many previous ones) will recognise the existance of EZ-Drive as long as the first partition on the drive was created using something that sees EZ-Drive (such as MS-DOS FDISK) and work around it (it still does direct IDE access but it does the same compensation as EZ-Drive does). Win2k also knows about EZ-Drive and compensates accordingly. Now, the way I used to do it was pop the drive into my linux desktop, and manually create the second partition skipping about 80MB or so for the hibernation partition. I didn't have a problem the last time I did it, but that doesn't necesarily mean anything. Am I going to have problems since I'm modifying the partition table with an OS that's not running through the overlay? How else do I create a second partition while skipping the hibernation space? Again, have a read of at least the second speal ... it is a bit of a rant but it answers these questions ;-) The dos fdisk is so retarded I can't even make more than one primary partition even though I know that the DOS partition table allows for up to 4... all I can do is create an extended partition, and there can only be one, and I'm sure it will create it in the bad place at the end of the 8gb... It will ... if I recall correctly I ended up creating some with Linux FDISK and mucked around with some of them in Partition Magic (which is EZD aware). You could probably do the whole lot (apart from the initial partition) with Linux FDISK but I decided I'd be better off using Linux tools to create the linux partitions and DOS tools to create the DOS partitions. Hope this helps! - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | | ICQ: 31756092 | Libretto IRC channel #Libretto
Re: [LIB] ghosting windows installations under linux
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 09:24:18 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] ghosting windows installations under linux At 08:23 AM 19/11/2002 -0800, you wrote: Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:21:27 -0500 From: David Nedved [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ghosting windows installations under linux Hi All, Anyone have experience using standard linux tools to ghost a windows partition? I had to blow away and repartition my hard drive to get the overlay installed. Prior to this I popped the drive into my linux desktop and tarred up the entire drive. I've got my drive reinstalled, I've got the overlay installed, I've got it sys'd from a win98 boot disk. I tried extracting all the files from the tarball back onto the disk (except for the dos files in the root directory: msdos.sys, command.com, etc.). Now the machine boots back into the command line as if windows isn't even there. Hmm ... strange ... that's exactly what I did (copy all files off, do a pile of stuff which involved a complete repartitioning, resysed the drive then copy everything back ... I couldn't use ghost at the time for fear of mucking up my delicate NTLDR/LILO setup). The difference is I overwrite anything that sys put there with what I had backed up. Try overwriting the msdos.sys and command.com with the versions from the TAR archive, maybe sys puts different versions on there if it sees a blank drive? If I type win it complains about himem.sys not being in the windows directory (even though it is). I thought these were all just standard files, and that other than the boot sectors, the positions of these files physically on the disk didn't really matter? Oh you don't have any autoexec.bat or config.sys flying around do you? Rename them to something else and then try it. I've got the output of a dd of the entire partition, and I'm able to extract it to another drive and it works just fine, but since I've installed the overlay, I'm expecting that my partition is approx 8kb smaller, so I can't dd the contents of the old partition onto it since it's smaller. Hehe ... dd'ing a disk with EZ-Drive on it isn't recommended unless you know that it compensates for that 8kb (the partition itself isn't 8kb smaller, the area for the boot and partition stuff at the front of the drive is about 8kb smaller but either way, direct disk access with an EZ-Bios unaware program tends to cause weird things to happen). Has anyone else ever used linux tools to backup and restore a windows intallation? Anyone know enough about the guts of win98se to know how to get it booting into the window manager instead of just the command line? The alternative is to do a really really basic Windows install (just select all defaults) then overwrite everything with the old backup. Which reminds me ... you did do the backup with the partition mounted as vfat (so you kept the long filenames)? Without them, Win98 tends to freak out a bit ... Hope this helps! - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | | ICQ: 31756092 | Libretto IRC channel #Libretto on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] Atek Super Mini Mouse
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 20:57:51 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Atek Super Mini Mouse Is anyone familiar with what version Atek Super Mini Mouse Xin uses to modify the Libretto 100CT? USB version or PS2? [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Atek Super Mini Mouse
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 21:57:06 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Atek Super Mini Mouse In a message dated 11/19/2002 6:59:34 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is anyone familiar with what version Atek Super Mini Mouse Xin uses to modify the Libretto 100CT? USB version or PS2? [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pretty sure it's PS2 - to my knowledge, Xin hasn't done any USB hacks from the system board. Lee ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Atek Super Mini Mouse
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:06:34 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Atek Super Mini Mouse At 05:59 PM 19/11/2002 -0800, you wrote: Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 20:57:51 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Atek Super Mini Mouse Is anyone familiar with what version Atek Super Mini Mouse Xin uses to modify the Libretto 100CT? USB version or PS2? I'm not familiar with that one in particular but I'd imagine it'd be PS/2 as he interfaces with the PS/2 controller to get the signals out to it (shameless plug: My website at www.raybot.net also has independent details on the PS/2 mod and includes keyboard details ;-). I do know that there are generic brand optical minimice flying around (they look slightly different, the one I've seen is silver in color and is rectangular) which are USB but come with an adapter that lets you use it as PS/2 but that there are also USB-only ones as well. Note that not all USB mice may be used in a PS/2 adapter so make sure you get the right version! - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | | ICQ: 31756092 | Libretto IRC channel #Libretto on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
