RE: [LIB] Charging problem

2003-07-28 Thread Raymond
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 10:49:27 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] Charging problem
At 11:37 AM 28/07/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:33:51 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Charging problem
I have the 100CT and had a similar problem about 1 year ago. I had a spare 
battery at the time, so I just put it in and started to charge it / use 
it. It has been fine ever since. This suggests the O/C'ing and WIN XP have 
nothing to do with it, since I am still running at 166 MHz and WIN95. It 
was just a battery that had reached end of life, and the sensing circuit 
inside the 100CT is probably doing exactly what it is supposed to do to 
warn you of either low battery voltage or low charge rate.
*sigh* it'd be nice if the laptop gave you warning about this or at least 
died gracefully ... hehe

I actually did try my second battery pack (the one I replaced the cells in) 
when I got this problem but it wouldn't even power the laptop ... I just 
tried it again and it seems to be working ... looks like my solder joints 
in there somewhere might need a little work ... hehe

Tnx for all the advice! Now to go find some more cells to shove into this 
dead pack ...

- Raymond

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[LIB] RE:Battery issues

2003-07-28 Thread Konrad . Szwab
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:24:08 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE:Battery issues

Guys,

Don't expect your 100 year old batteries not to be flakey. Get any LiIon
crappy new batteries (cell phone, some other el cheapo laptop), rip out the
cells and replace the old cells with new ones.

Works great for my 4 Librettos. Send me the old batteries if you want them
fixed, $50 plus shipping.

regards,

Konrad Szwab, EE
System Engineer / Network Administrator
Alcon Manufacturing - Houston
(713) 295-4329



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Re: [LIB] Charging problem and dead batteries

2003-07-28 Thread Christian Gennerat
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 21:20:23 +0200
From: Christian Gennerat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem and dead batteries
Steven Knight a écrit :

Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 20:04:58 +0100
From: "Steven Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] Charging problem and dead batteries
Hi all.

I too was wondering if any one out there knows a UK company, either selling
the battery packs or just compatible battery cells so that I could replace the
one in the standard lib battery unit.
 

I had this problem last year. I have not found batteries in Paris,
but I have got a second hand L110 with two good batteriy packs for only 
300 €
1 low copacity is also dead now
and 1 high copacity wich is still alive.

--
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Re: [LIB] Charging problem and dead batteries

2003-07-28 Thread RSchw74573
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 15:06:54 EDT
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Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem and dead batteries

In a message dated 7/28/2003 1:04:25 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> Hi all.
> 
> I too was wondering if any one out there knows a UK company, either selling
> the battery packs or just compatible battery cells so that I could replace 
> the
> one in the standard lib battery unit.
> 

The innards of batteries fitting the L50/70 fit and work perfectly in the 
L100/110 battery cases, and they're cheaper.

Lee



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RE: [LIB] Charging problem and dead batteries

2003-07-28 Thread Steven Knight
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 20:04:58 +0100
From: "Steven Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] Charging problem and dead batteries

Hi all.

I too was wondering if any one out there knows a UK company, either selling
the battery packs or just compatible battery cells so that I could replace the
one in the standard lib battery unit.

-Original Message-
From: Lawrence Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 28 July 2003 19:49
To: Libretto
Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem


Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:46:50 -0400
From: "Lawrence Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem



The battery simply reaches its end of life. There is no warning or slow
dieing. It's quick and sudden death. I know it because I'm on my third battery
now. They average about a year and half depends on usage. If you want longer
living battery, keep it on AC power all the time! Li-ion batteries only have
500 to 1000 recharge cycles. My current battery has already beat all the odds
and in its third year now (granted I don't use the lib that often and it's
always on AC). It's going to be dead anytime. Don't know if there still is
company out there selling Lib battery packs?!

- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem


> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:06:01 +
> From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem
>
> I'm having problems charging the battery on my 100CT too Raymond.  I 
> was about to post a question about it when I found your note.  I've 
> checked
the
> service manual, aksed Iris, and search the Lib list archives, but 
> can't
find
> an answer.
>
> My 100 won't power on from the battery which sees to be dead, thought 
> it
had
> been powering the system fine the other day.  It does boot with the AC 
> adapter connected.  But for some reason the LED for the battery 
> suddenly started blinking twice quickly, staying on for a few seconds, 
> then
blinking
> twice again, and continuing that way.  This pattern persists wither or 
> not the system is booted.
>
> Unless there's a simple solution, I'm afraid either either the battery 
> or charging circuit has gone bad.  I'm wondering if this might be 
> connected
to
> having O/Ced the system to 266, and all of the WinXP crashes the 
> system
has
> been subjected to.
>
> Any thoughts on this would be much appreciated.
>
> Matt
>
>
> >From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >Hi all!
> >
> >
> >Looks like my trusty L100 has decided that it doesn't want to play 
> >nice anymore :-(
> >
> >I plug the power supply and battery in and, if the laptop is turned 
> >on,
the
> >charging light comes on and the power icon shows charging but the 
> >battery never makes it beyond about 58%. Unplug external power and 
> >the battery starts discharging. I get about 1h20m or so out of it 
> >which is about
right
> >for a half charge given the age of the battery.
> >
> >However, things get weirder when the laptop is turned off. With the
laptop
> >plugged in, initially the power light goes green and the battery 
> >light
goes
> >orange (as normal). However, after a while the battery light turns 
> >off altogether (it SHOULD go green when the battery is charged) ... 
> >If I take the battery pack out and plug it back in again, the orange 
> >charge light comes back on for a while before going out altogether 
> >again.
> >
> >All this started quite suddenly ... it was all working OK then I ran 
> >the battery all the way down on a flight from Rome to Tokyo (on an 
> >Alitalia
767
> >of all things ... don't get me started ...). These problems started 
> >the next time I plugged it in (actually thats not quite true, the 
> >first time
I
> >plugged it in, instead of the battery light coming on, the power 
> >light flashed orange indicating a power problem) ...
> >
> >Anyone else seen such symptoms or have any ideas?
> >
> >
> >*sigh* I wish I found out this thing was having problems before I 
> >left Tokyo (the next time I plugged it in after the flight was in 
> >Australia)

> >I could have gotten a nice replacement when I went to Akihabara!
> >
> >
> >- Raymond
> >
> >P.S. Yes, I'm back! Hopefully I'll be a little more active on the 
> >list
than
> >I have been for the past few months!
>
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Re: [LIB] Charging problem

2003-07-28 Thread Lawrence Young
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:46:50 -0400
From: "Lawrence Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem



The battery simply reaches its end of life. There is no warning or slow
dieing. It's quick and sudden death. I know it because I'm on my third
battery now. They average about a year and half depends on usage. If you
want longer living battery, keep it on AC power all the time! Li-ion
batteries only have 500 to 1000 recharge cycles. My current battery has
already beat all the odds and in its third year now (granted I don't use the
lib that often and it's always on AC). It's going to be dead anytime. Don't
know if there still is company out there selling Lib battery packs?!

- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem


> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:06:01 +
> From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem
>
> I'm having problems charging the battery on my 100CT too Raymond.  I was
> about to post a question about it when I found your note.  I've checked
the
> service manual, aksed Iris, and search the Lib list archives, but can't
find
> an answer.
>
> My 100 won't power on from the battery which sees to be dead, thought it
had
> been powering the system fine the other day.  It does boot with the AC
> adapter connected.  But for some reason the LED for the battery suddenly
> started blinking twice quickly, staying on for a few seconds, then
blinking
> twice again, and continuing that way.  This pattern persists wither or not
> the system is booted.
>
> Unless there's a simple solution, I'm afraid either either the battery or
> charging circuit has gone bad.  I'm wondering if this might be connected
to
> having O/Ced the system to 266, and all of the WinXP crashes the system
has
> been subjected to.
>
> Any thoughts on this would be much appreciated.
>
> Matt
>
>
> >From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >Hi all!
> >
> >
> >Looks like my trusty L100 has decided that it doesn't want to play nice
> >anymore :-(
> >
> >I plug the power supply and battery in and, if the laptop is turned on,
the
> >charging light comes on and the power icon shows charging but the battery
> >never makes it beyond about 58%. Unplug external power and the battery
> >starts discharging. I get about 1h20m or so out of it which is about
right
> >for a half charge given the age of the battery.
> >
> >However, things get weirder when the laptop is turned off. With the
laptop
> >plugged in, initially the power light goes green and the battery light
goes
> >orange (as normal). However, after a while the battery light turns off
> >altogether (it SHOULD go green when the battery is charged) ... If I take
> >the battery pack out and plug it back in again, the orange charge light
> >comes back on for a while before going out altogether again.
> >
> >All this started quite suddenly ... it was all working OK then I ran the
> >battery all the way down on a flight from Rome to Tokyo (on an Alitalia
767
> >of all things ... don't get me started ...). These problems started the
> >next time I plugged it in (actually thats not quite true, the first time
I
> >plugged it in, instead of the battery light coming on, the power light
> >flashed orange indicating a power problem) ...
> >
> >Anyone else seen such symptoms or have any ideas?
> >
> >
> >*sigh* I wish I found out this thing was having problems before I left
> >Tokyo (the next time I plugged it in after the flight was in Australia)
...
> >I could have gotten a nice replacement when I went to Akihabara!
> >
> >
> >- Raymond
> >
> >P.S. Yes, I'm back! Hopefully I'll be a little more active on the list
than
> >I have been for the past few months!
>
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RE: [LIB] Charging problem

2003-07-28 Thread Richard . Sullivan
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:33:51 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Charging problem

I have the 100CT and had a similar problem about 1 year ago. I had a spare battery at 
the time, so I just put it in and started to charge it / use it. It has been fine ever 
since. This suggests the O/C'ing and WIN XP have nothing to do with it, since I am 
still running at 166 MHz and WIN95. It was just a battery that had reached end of 
life, and the sensing circuit inside the 100CT is probably doing exactly what it is 
supposed to do to warn you of either low battery voltage or low charge rate.

To verify this, I would suggest trying another known good battery to see if you get 
the same results. I know this may be impossible if you don't have another battery, but 
it is the best way to isolate the problem. 

Does anyone know how to connect a battery from another source, at least temporarily, 
just to verify the charging circuits are working correctly?
Dick 

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From: Matthew Hanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:10 PM
To: Libretto
Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem


Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:06:01 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem

I'm having problems charging the battery on my 100CT too Raymond.  I was 
about to post a question about it when I found your note.  I've checked the 
service manual, aksed Iris, and search the Lib list archives, but can't find 
an answer.

My 100 won't power on from the battery which sees to be dead, thought it had 
been powering the system fine the other day.  It does boot with the AC 
adapter connected.  But for some reason the LED for the battery suddenly 
started blinking twice quickly, staying on for a few seconds, then blinking 
twice again, and continuing that way.  This pattern persists wither or not 
the system is booted.

Unless there's a simple solution, I'm afraid either either the battery or 
charging circuit has gone bad.  I'm wondering if this might be connected to 
having O/Ced the system to 266, and all of the WinXP crashes the system has 
been subjected to.

Any thoughts on this would be much appreciated.

Matt


>From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Hi all!
>
>
>Looks like my trusty L100 has decided that it doesn't want to play nice
>anymore :-(
>
>I plug the power supply and battery in and, if the laptop is turned on, 
>the
>charging light comes on and the power icon shows charging but the battery 
>never makes it beyond about 58%. Unplug external power and the battery 
>starts discharging. I get about 1h20m or so out of it which is about right 
>for a half charge given the age of the battery.
>
>However, things get weirder when the laptop is turned off. With the 
>laptop
>plugged in, initially the power light goes green and the battery light goes 
>orange (as normal). However, after a while the battery light turns off 
>altogether (it SHOULD go green when the battery is charged) ... If I take 
>the battery pack out and plug it back in again, the orange charge light 
>comes back on for a while before going out altogether again.
>
>All this started quite suddenly ... it was all working OK then I ran 
>the
>battery all the way down on a flight from Rome to Tokyo (on an Alitalia 767 
>of all things ... don't get me started ...). These problems started the 
>next time I plugged it in (actually thats not quite true, the first time I 
>plugged it in, instead of the battery light coming on, the power light 
>flashed orange indicating a power problem) ...
>
>Anyone else seen such symptoms or have any ideas?
>
>
>*sigh* I wish I found out this thing was having problems before I left
>Tokyo (the next time I plugged it in after the flight was in Australia) ... 
>I could have gotten a nice replacement when I went to Akihabara!
>
>
>- Raymond
>
>P.S. Yes, I'm back! Hopefully I'll be a little more active on the list 
>than
>I have been for the past few months!

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Re: [LIB] Charging problem

2003-07-28 Thread Matthew Hanson
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:06:01 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem
I'm having problems charging the battery on my 100CT too Raymond.  I was 
about to post a question about it when I found your note.  I've checked the 
service manual, aksed Iris, and search the Lib list archives, but can't find 
an answer.

My 100 won't power on from the battery which sees to be dead, thought it had 
been powering the system fine the other day.  It does boot with the AC 
adapter connected.  But for some reason the LED for the battery suddenly 
started blinking twice quickly, staying on for a few seconds, then blinking 
twice again, and continuing that way.  This pattern persists wither or not 
the system is booted.

Unless there's a simple solution, I'm afraid either either the battery or 
charging circuit has gone bad.  I'm wondering if this might be connected to 
having O/Ced the system to 266, and all of the WinXP crashes the system has 
been subjected to.

Any thoughts on this would be much appreciated.

Matt


From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi all!

Looks like my trusty L100 has decided that it doesn't want to play nice 
anymore :-(

I plug the power supply and battery in and, if the laptop is turned on, the 
charging light comes on and the power icon shows charging but the battery 
never makes it beyond about 58%. Unplug external power and the battery 
starts discharging. I get about 1h20m or so out of it which is about right 
for a half charge given the age of the battery.

However, things get weirder when the laptop is turned off. With the laptop 
plugged in, initially the power light goes green and the battery light goes 
orange (as normal). However, after a while the battery light turns off 
altogether (it SHOULD go green when the battery is charged) ... If I take 
the battery pack out and plug it back in again, the orange charge light 
comes back on for a while before going out altogether again.

All this started quite suddenly ... it was all working OK then I ran the 
battery all the way down on a flight from Rome to Tokyo (on an Alitalia 767 
of all things ... don't get me started ...). These problems started the 
next time I plugged it in (actually thats not quite true, the first time I 
plugged it in, instead of the battery light coming on, the power light 
flashed orange indicating a power problem) ...

Anyone else seen such symptoms or have any ideas?

*sigh* I wish I found out this thing was having problems before I left 
Tokyo (the next time I plugged it in after the flight was in Australia) ... 
I could have gotten a nice replacement when I went to Akihabara!

- Raymond

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[LIB] Charging problem

2003-07-28 Thread Raymond
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 22:30:28 +1000
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Charging problem
Hi all!

Looks like my trusty L100 has decided that it doesn't want to play nice 
anymore :-(

I plug the power supply and battery in and, if the laptop is turned on, the 
charging light comes on and the power icon shows charging but the battery 
never makes it beyond about 58%. Unplug external power and the battery 
starts discharging. I get about 1h20m or so out of it which is about right 
for a half charge given the age of the battery.

However, things get weirder when the laptop is turned off. With the laptop 
plugged in, initially the power light goes green and the battery light goes 
orange (as normal). However, after a while the battery light turns off 
altogether (it SHOULD go green when the battery is charged) ... If I take 
the battery pack out and plug it back in again, the orange charge light 
comes back on for a while before going out altogether again.

All this started quite suddenly ... it was all working OK then I ran the 
battery all the way down on a flight from Rome to Tokyo (on an Alitalia 767 
of all things ... don't get me started ...). These problems started the 
next time I plugged it in (actually thats not quite true, the first time I 
plugged it in, instead of the battery light coming on, the power light 
flashed orange indicating a power problem) ...

Anyone else seen such symptoms or have any ideas?

*sigh* I wish I found out this thing was having problems before I left 
Tokyo (the next time I plugged it in after the flight was in Australia) ... 
I could have gotten a nice replacement when I went to Akihabara!

- Raymond



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Re: Re: [LIB] 80G in 100CT?

2003-07-28 Thread nailed_barnacle
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 16:48:38 +
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Subject: Re: Re: [LIB] 80G in 100CT?

> 
> From: Paul Bristow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> 
> I think 80G in a Lib is not bad given the 2.1 it started with :-)

ROFL - some of us older fogies started with an 810MB so it's a hundred times bigger :)

(and I'm sure there must still be someone with a 20 or 30 out there...)

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Re: Re: [LIB] Reinstall OS for L50?

2003-07-28 Thread nailed_barnacle
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 16:43:42 +
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Re: [LIB] Reinstall OS for L50?

> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> 1.  Prepare a boot floppy using another PC running w98se.  This floppy will 
> load generic drivers for CDROM drives, and show you a menu (boot w/CD support, 
> boot w/o CD support) on boot.
> 
> 2.  Attach your parallel port CD drive, then check that your L50 will boot 
> from the W98 boot floppy.  If it does, choose CD support from the menu and see 
> if DOS sees your CD drive.  If it does, you're ready to do the deed.
> 
> 3.  Restart the L50, choose No CD Support after booting from the floppy.  
> Then run FDISK, setting up the hard drive as one large FAT32 partition (this will 
> of course wipe out all your data & programs stored on the hard drive.).  Exit 
> FDISK when that's done and FORMAT the drive using the format C: /s command.  
> The L50 will set up a hidden space for the hibernation data.
> 
> 4.  Reboot and choose CD Support.  Make a directory on C: and copy the entire 
> W98se CD from your parallel CD drive to that directory.
> 
> At this point the L50 should be capable of booting from the hard drive, and 
> you can run Setup from the directory where the W98 CD was copied.  Once Windows 
> is happy, you can install the L50 drivers that you have previously downloaded 
> from the Tosh site.  Don't forget that you'll need the L110 W98 floppy driver 
> for the floppy to work under W98.

Couldn't have said it better myself, Lee!

One point - the reason for copying the windows CD to the hard drive is (a) because it 
almost certainly won't run from the parallel port once the install starts and (b) so 
that the OS doesn't insist on the CD being present if you want to do something really 
difficult, say changing a network card. You can erase the directory after installation 
if you need the disk space.

Neil

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