Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT

2002-04-26 Thread Lawrence Young

Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 09:24:49 -0400
From: Lawrence Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT

The major difference is the internal design. 50 and 70 are basically 486
architecture while 100 are Pentium class architecture. This can be show in
many cases:

(1) When put in standby or suspend mode, L50/70 will drain the battery in
couple of hours while on L100, it is almost the same as shutdown or
hibernation.

(2) L50/70 only has ISA bus so it won't support 32-bit card bus and USB
interface. L100 has modern PCI bus.


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Subject: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT


 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 21:59:42 -0500
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 Subject: 70CT verses 100CT


 I am still working on my *(^% 70CT and its rebooting problem.
 Basically I am thinking of selling it as spare parts and getting a 100
 or 110CT. I was wondering- what are the main differances besides
 the 70 and 100/110 besides things like the cardbus enabled
 pcmcia, larger screen, more memory and faster microprocessor?
 Like- what are the differances between the power supplies used by
 each? I saw from the specs they use the same voltage and current
 but do the have differant jacks and/or polarity?  Does the 100/110
 use the same floppy drive as the 70? I understand either the 100 or
 the 110 has a 8 mm hard drive which is it and can a 9.5 mm hard
 drive be made to fit? Will the port expander work from the 70 to
 100/110? Basically I'm thinking of getting a barebones 100/100CT
 and using everything from my 70CT. Thanks in advance...


 John



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Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT

2002-04-26 Thread Raymond

Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 23:18:01 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT


I am still working on my *(^% 70CT and its rebooting problem.
Basically I am thinking of selling it as spare parts and getting a 100
or 110CT. I was wondering- what are the main differances besides
the 70 and 100/110 besides things like the cardbus enabled
pcmcia, larger screen, more memory and faster microprocessor?
Like- what are the differances between the power supplies used by
each? I saw from the specs they use the same voltage and current
but do the have differant jacks and/or polarity?  Does the 100/110
use the same floppy drive as the 70? I understand either the 100 or
the 110 has a 8 mm hard drive which is it and can a 9.5 mm hard
drive be made to fit? Will the port expander work from the 70 to
100/110? Basically I'm thinking of getting a barebones 100/100CT
and using everything from my 70CT. Thanks in advance...

You can keep the floppy drive and hard drive (but why would you want a 
small one?) but thats about it ... the power supply connector is different 
(if you make up a new connector though you can still use the old PSU) ... 
the port replicators are also completely different.

I went from an L50 to an L100 and I'm very happy with it ... it IS bigger 
than the L50/70 and it does have some quirks in terms of 
hibernation/suspend but its more than made up for by its extra features.


- Raymond

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Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT

2002-04-26 Thread John Musielewicz

Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:57:29 -0500
From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT

Hi Tom

Thanks for the info. I was doing a search for third party power supplies and
such for the 100/110 and didn't find much. I found a bunch for the 50/70
though. Has anyone tried replacing the power jack in the 100/110 to match
the 50/70? Cost about 2 dollars and the 50/70 jack is availible at Mouser
Electronics.

John

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 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 23:06:48 -0700
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 Subject: Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT

 John,

 The 50/70 share the PA2499U battery charger and the floppy drive with the
 100/110, and that's pretty much it.  The power plugs are different,
 batteries are different (externally), replicators are different, etc, etc,
 etc.  And to use the PA2499U battery charger on a 100/110 battery, you
 need the PA2504U adapter.



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  Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 21:59:42 -0500
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: 70CT verses 100CT
 
  I am still working on my *(^% 70CT and its rebooting problem.
  Basically I am thinking of selling it as spare parts and getting a 100
  or 110CT. I was wondering- what are the main differances besides
  the 70 and 100/110 besides things like the cardbus enabled
  pcmcia, larger screen, more memory and faster microprocessor?
  Like- what are the differances between the power supplies used by
  each? I saw from the specs they use the same voltage and current
  but do the have differant jacks and/or polarity?  Does the 100/110
  use the same floppy drive as the 70? I understand either the 100 or
  the 110 has a 8 mm hard drive which is it and can a 9.5 mm hard
  drive be made to fit? Will the port expander work from the 70 to
  100/110? Basically I'm thinking of getting a barebones 100/100CT
  and using everything from my 70CT. Thanks in advance...
 
  John
 
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Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT

2002-04-26 Thread John Musielewicz

Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:09:02 -0500
From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT


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Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT


 Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 23:18:01 +0800
 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT


 I am still working on my *(^% 70CT and its rebooting problem.
 Basically I am thinking of selling it as spare parts and getting a 100
 or 110CT. I was wondering- what are the main differances besides
 the 70 and 100/110 besides things like the cardbus enabled
 pcmcia, larger screen, more memory and faster microprocessor?
 Like- what are the differances between the power supplies used by
 each? I saw from the specs they use the same voltage and current
 but do the have differant jacks and/or polarity?  Does the 100/110
 use the same floppy drive as the 70? I understand either the 100 or
 the 110 has a 8 mm hard drive which is it and can a 9.5 mm hard
 drive be made to fit? Will the port expander work from the 70 to
 100/110? Basically I'm thinking of getting a barebones 100/100CT
 and using everything from my 70CT. Thanks in advance...

 You can keep the floppy drive and hard drive (but why would you want a
 small one?) but thats about it ... the power supply connector is different
 (if you make up a new connector though you can still use the old PSU) ...
 the port replicators are also completely different.

I have a 6 gig with about 4 gig free. I don't need a bigger one:)!!! I am
not much into software. It's great to know a simple mod to the 100/110 will
enable me to use my power supplies!!!


 I went from an L50 to an L100 and I'm very happy with it ... it IS bigger
 than the L50/70 and it does have some quirks in terms of
 hibernation/suspend but its more than made up for by its extra features.

What quirks have you found?



 - Raymond

John





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Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT

2002-04-26 Thread John Musielewicz

Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:03:19 -0500
From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT


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To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 1:26 AM
Subject: Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT


 Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 09:24:49 -0400
 From: Lawrence Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT

 The major difference is the internal design. 50 and 70 are basically 486
 architecture while 100 are Pentium class architecture. This can be show in
 many cases:

 (1) When put in standby or suspend mode, L50/70 will drain the battery in
 couple of hours while on L100, it is almost the same as shutdown or
 hibernation.

Wow...cool. I'm getting one. :)


 (2) L50/70 only has ISA bus so it won't support 32-bit card bus and USB
 interface. L100 has modern PCI bus.


This would be nice to have so a person could add a usb pcmcia card.


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 Subject: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT


  Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 21:59:42 -0500
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: 70CT verses 100CT
 
 
  I am still working on my *(^% 70CT and its rebooting problem.
  Basically I am thinking of selling it as spare parts and getting a 100
  or 110CT. I was wondering- what are the main differances besides
  the 70 and 100/110 besides things like the cardbus enabled
  pcmcia, larger screen, more memory and faster microprocessor?
  Like- what are the differances between the power supplies used by
  each? I saw from the specs they use the same voltage and current
  but do the have differant jacks and/or polarity?  Does the 100/110
  use the same floppy drive as the 70? I understand either the 100 or
  the 110 has a 8 mm hard drive which is it and can a 9.5 mm hard
  drive be made to fit? Will the port expander work from the 70 to
  100/110? Basically I'm thinking of getting a barebones 100/100CT
  and using everything from my 70CT. Thanks in advance...
 
 
  John
 
 
 
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Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT

2002-04-26 Thread Lawrence Young

Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 13:52:20 -0400
From: Lawrence Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT


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To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT


 Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:57:29 -0500
 From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT

 Hi Tom

 Thanks for the info. I was doing a search for third party power supplies
and
 such for the 100/110 and didn't find much. I found a bunch for the 50/70
 though. Has anyone tried replacing the power jack in the 100/110 to match
 the 50/70? Cost about 2 dollars and the 50/70 jack is availible at Mouser
 Electronics.

Unlike the power plug for L50/70,  you can not buy the power plug for L100
anywhere else. It's a Toshiba proprietary plug.




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Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT

2002-04-26 Thread Pres Waterman

Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 14:32:00 -0400
From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 The major difference is the internal design. 50 and 70 are basically 486
 architecture while 100 are Pentium class architecture. This can be show in


Why would you say that? The specs clearly show the 50 to have a Pentium-75
and the 70 is, guessing here, a P-120???

The L30 and L-20 were 486-class

Thanks

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Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT

2002-04-26 Thread neil barnes

Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 18:45:57 +
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Subject: Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT

Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 14:32:00 -0400
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  The major difference is the internal design. 50 and 70 are basically 486
  architecture while 100 are Pentium class architecture. This can be show 
in


Why would you say that? The specs clearly show the 50 to have a Pentium-75
and the 70 is, guessing here, a P-120???

The L30 and L-20 were 486-class

They have pentium processors but the internal connections look back rather 
than forwards - for example the video chip is connected on a vesa local bus, 
rather than a PCI bus.

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Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT

2002-04-26 Thread Kevin McClelland

Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 12:28:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kevin McClelland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT

On Fri, 26 April 2002, John Musielewicz wrote

 
 Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:57:29 -0500
 From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT
 
 Hi Tom
 
 Thanks for the info. I was doing a search for third
party power supplies and
 such for the 100/110 and didn't find much. I found a
bunch for the 50/70
 though. Has anyone tried replacing the power jack in
the 100/110 to match
 the 50/70? Cost about 2 dollars and the 50/70 jack is
availible at Mouser
 Electronics.
 
 John
 

Try making one yourself. I knew I had run across this
before. I have never done it, but apparently it is not
too hard. If you cannot make your own, you can buy them
for around $10 for two of them.

http://www.fixup.net/tips/l100/l100plug.htm


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Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT

2002-04-26 Thread Raymond

Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 10:15:57 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT

At 09:52 AM 26/04/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:57:29 -0500
From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT

Hi Tom

Thanks for the info. I was doing a search for third party power supplies and
such for the 100/110 and didn't find much. I found a bunch for the 50/70
though. Has anyone tried replacing the power jack in the 100/110 to match
the 50/70? Cost about 2 dollars and the 50/70 jack is availible at Mouser
Electronics.

You can get 15V 2.5A switchmode powerbricks from any decent electronics 
hobbiest store for a fraction of the cost of the Toshiba unit ... as for 
the jack to plug into the L100/110, Xin has some suggestions (www.fixup.net).


- Raymond



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Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT

2002-04-26 Thread Raymond

Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 10:23:38 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT


  I went from an L50 to an L100 and I'm very happy with it ... it IS bigger
  than the L50/70 and it does have some quirks in terms of
  hibernation/suspend but its more than made up for by its extra features.

What quirks have you found?

IIRC I posted a few gripes a while back but it boils down to

1: It has a real problem hot-docking/undocking or warm-docking/undocking 
from the EPR regardless of what else is plugged in. My L50 was fine going 
to and from the EPR primarily because the EPR wasn't actually detecting as 
a port replicator (for instance, even when nothing is connected you'll 
notice the L50/70 recons its got 2 PCMCIA slots ... as if the EPR was 
always connected). I think this sorta problem would be common to ANY laptop 
that uses Windows's docking/undocking stuff (my Toshiba Tecra 500CDT with 
the Dockstation V has similar problems at times).

2: The L100 has a real hard time figuring out itself after coming out of 
suspend. My L50 would redetect everything so say it suspend with a NIC then 
I replaced it with a CD-ROM card and powered it back up again, it'd 
redetect everything and it'd be fine. With my L100, I have to stop the NIC 
before suspending, then when it comes out of suspend it detects the CD-ROM 
card. Ditto if I remove the NIC during hibernation (although I think thats 
more a network problem). I just get into the habit now of stopping all 
devices before suspending, regardless of if I'll be removing anything or not.

3: Coming OUT of suspend takes anywhere from 2 seconds to 15 seconds. I'm 
not exactly sure why this is ... it doesn't seem to depend on things having 
changed, redetections, programs running or whatnot.

4: I can't get the L100 to do the nice L50 thing of suspending but saving 
hibernation info, then flipping from suspend to hibernate after a set 
amount of time (so if I remove the battery pack or if I leave it for a 
while it won't need to be powered but if I need to wake it up after a short 
time I can do so quickly). Having said THAT, it seems to use about as much 
power suspended as hibernated so the only time you'll really need to 
hibernate is if you wanted to switch battery packs without fully shutting 
down. I've not got a spare pack for my L100 so I've not had that problem, 
when I get a new pack I'll have to find a way of forcing hibernation to do 
a battery swap ...

5: The L100 relies a lot more on Windows APM stuff so it does annoying 
things like Windows overriding BIOS. In Windows for instance, I press the 
power button and the laptop suspends. Under DOS or Linux however, I press 
the power button and it hibernates. Thing is, I've not told it to hibernate 
ANYWHERE (BIOS or Windows) so I'm trying to figure out why it bothers 
hibernating.


Hope this helps!

- Raymond



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Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT

2002-04-26 Thread Raymond

Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 10:27:54 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT

At 11:38 AM 26/04/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 14:32:00 -0400
From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] 70CT verses 100CT

 
  The major difference is the internal design. 50 and 70 are basically 486
  architecture while 100 are Pentium class architecture. This can be show in


Why would you say that? The specs clearly show the 50 to have a Pentium-75
and the 70 is, guessing here, a P-120???

The L30 and L-20 were 486-class

I think he's referring to the general system layout/architecture (eg. the 
ISA-only stuff). Remember, you CAN build a Pentium system where the mobo is 
practically a souped up 486 setup.


- Raymond



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[LIB] 70CT verses 100CT

2002-04-25 Thread jmusielewicz

Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 21:59:42 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 70CT verses 100CT


I am still working on my *(^% 70CT and its rebooting problem. 
Basically I am thinking of selling it as spare parts and getting a 100 
or 110CT. I was wondering- what are the main differances besides 
the 70 and 100/110 besides things like the cardbus enabled 
pcmcia, larger screen, more memory and faster microprocessor? 
Like- what are the differances between the power supplies used by 
each? I saw from the specs they use the same voltage and current 
but do the have differant jacks and/or polarity?  Does the 100/110 
use the same floppy drive as the 70? I understand either the 100 or 
the 110 has a 8 mm hard drive which is it and can a 9.5 mm hard 
drive be made to fit? Will the port expander work from the 70 to 
100/110? Basically I'm thinking of getting a barebones 100/100CT 
and using everything from my 70CT. Thanks in advance...


John



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