Re: [LIB] HELP: Laptop Advice

2004-11-17 Thread David Chien
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 21:24:47 -0800 (PST)
From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] HELP: Laptop Advice

 She plays a lot of games, DVD movies, and loves coffee shops (wireless 
 internet); I can only spend around 2,000.00
 I would sincerely appreciate any and all advice, on this system, or any 
 other out there.
 
 I'm considering buying this system:
 
   Inspiron 8600, Intel Pentium MProcessor 725 (1.6GHz), 15.4in WUXGA 

  0) Keep in mind that laptops, like most other computer components, depreciate
AT LEAST 50% PER YEAR or MORE!  In other words, you can expect to buy a new
Inspiron 8600 for about 1/2 the price you are paying for it this year, or about
$900 next year.

 This also means if you're smart and spend less, you can use the money you
have left over to upgrade to a new system next year -- rather than spending a
whole bunch this year, and not being able to upgrade next year, or the year
after that as well.  

 This is often times the 'smart' way to stay ahead of the game while
spending a smaller amount each year.

  1) The cheaper deal that would run rings around this baby would be the
eMachines Athlon 64+ laptops.  They've benchmarked very high in 3dMarks as well
as standard office apps, and although not the ultimate highest in these marks,
among the fastest available laptops for a really good price of $1400.  Even PC
Magazine rated it as the fastest notebook they've ever tested earlier this
year, and you can get lots of tips on tweaking this notebook on the eMachines
forums.

http://www.dexplor.com/phpBB2/index.php?sid=b626ba12cf1057831610a500feb04728 
http://reviews.cnet.com/eMachines_M6811/4505-3121_7-30994117-5.html
 http://www.emachines.com/products/products.html?prod=eMachines_M6810

 Benchmarks on one guy's M6805 goes 11,000+ 3dmarks03/3100+ 3dmarks03 --
pretty awesome for a notebook w/o spending over $1400!

 (for comparison, 
GPU cooling (100°C-75°C)* Inspiron 8600 * 1.8ghz Pentium M * 128 MB Radeon
9600 Pro Turbo (337/242 - 400/300) * 2x256 MB DDR2700 SDRAM * Aquamark 3:
24058 * 3DMark'03: 3404 * 3DMark'01 SE: 13120)

  Use the difference and save it towards another laptop for next year!  Or a
Gameboy DS + PSP!

  2) Better get at least a 3 year warranty + complete care if you're going the
Dell route.  Their laptops have dropped =significantly= in terms of reliability
from the 2002/2003 to the 2004 year.  See PCMag.com 2004 Reliability Survey.


http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/7/0,1311,sz=1i=77230,00.gif

Here, ignore the 'subjective' ratings, and look closely at the column that
says : percent needing repair - 24%!!!

I don't know about you, but 1 out of 4 notebooks from Dell.com being bad is
no good in my book.  Even Toshiba at 17% or SOny at 16% are far better deals.

Then again, if you're cheap, nothing like giving your sister a bad notebook
that'll have a good chance of breaking =p

   3) BLACK FRIDAY! BLACK FRIDAY! BLACK FRIDAY!!

  Some of the very hottest sales are coming up in a few days, and the day
right after Thanksgiving is usually the one loaded with the hotest Friday 
weekend prices around!  (eg. last year, brand-new Toshiba notebook for $499
after rebates)   Expect killer sales for those that wake up early (yes, you
MUST BE IN LINE at BestBuy and most other places by 3AM or else you will not be
able to buy the hot items!  Just too many people reading
www.fatwallet.com/forums/ - hot deals - search black friday for the
numerous posts already up on all of the hottest deals  steals).

  IF you're smart, you will take advantage of the usual Sat or Sun.
Microcenter.com in-store sales, and make sure you do this right -- 1) get in
line early, 2) scout out the store the day before for open-box deals and put
them on hold if possible 3) sign up for the in-store Microcenter.com credit
card, and take $100 off the purchase, including all sale prices!!!

  Yes, you can get a new iBook open-box for $999 usual, $899 open box, $699
after $300 in rebates, $599 after $100 credit card rebate = $599 for a $999
iBook like me last year.  Excellent eBay resale, naturally, for some needed $.

4) Avoid anything with Celeron in them like the plague -- very poor battery
life, and bechmarks on a 2.8Ghz Celeron are so slow, you might as well throw
away your money.

   Pentium M CPUs typically run about 1.5x to 2x faster than they're rated,
so a 2Ghz P-M is similar to a 3.0-3.4Ghz P4 (depending on application) in a
laptop environement for the top end notebooks.

   BUT just like the recent PCMag.com review found in their annual notebook
review, not all same-speed P-M CPU notebooks run as fast!  So watch the
benchmarks (here pcmag.com, www.cnet.com and other sites usually have lots of
benchmarks), will give you a solid idea what you're buying.

 5) As for wireless, if you get the cheaper eMachines, you can spend the
rest on a Merlin G100 GPRS card ($100 on ebay.com) or usual aircard 555 from

Re: [LIB] HELP: Laptop Advice

2004-11-17 Thread David Chien
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 21:24:47 -0800 (PST)
From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] HELP: Laptop Advice

 She plays a lot of games, DVD movies, and loves coffee shops (wireless 
 internet); I can only spend around 2,000.00
 I would sincerely appreciate any and all advice, on this system, or any 
 other out there.
 
 I'm considering buying this system:
 
   Inspiron 8600, Intel Pentium MProcessor 725 (1.6GHz), 15.4in WUXGA 

  0) Keep in mind that laptops, like most other computer components, depreciate
AT LEAST 50% PER YEAR or MORE!  In other words, you can expect to buy a new
Inspiron 8600 for about 1/2 the price you are paying for it this year, or about
$900 next year.

 This also means if you're smart and spend less, you can use the money you
have left over to upgrade to a new system next year -- rather than spending a
whole bunch this year, and not being able to upgrade next year, or the year
after that as well.  

 This is often times the 'smart' way to stay ahead of the game while
spending a smaller amount each year.

  1) The cheaper deal that would run rings around this baby would be the
eMachines Athlon 64+ laptops.  They've benchmarked very high in 3dMarks as well
as standard office apps, and although not the ultimate highest in these marks,
among the fastest available laptops for a really good price of $1400.  Even PC
Magazine rated it as the fastest notebook they've ever tested earlier this
year, and you can get lots of tips on tweaking this notebook on the eMachines
forums.

http://www.dexplor.com/phpBB2/index.php?sid=b626ba12cf1057831610a500feb04728 
http://reviews.cnet.com/eMachines_M6811/4505-3121_7-30994117-5.html
 http://www.emachines.com/products/products.html?prod=eMachines_M6810

 Benchmarks on one guy's M6805 goes 11,000+ 3dmarks03/3100+ 3dmarks03 --
pretty awesome for a notebook w/o spending over $1400!

 (for comparison, 
GPU cooling (100°C-75°C)* Inspiron 8600 * 1.8ghz Pentium M * 128 MB Radeon
9600 Pro Turbo (337/242 - 400/300) * 2x256 MB DDR2700 SDRAM * Aquamark 3:
24058 * 3DMark'03: 3404 * 3DMark'01 SE: 13120)

  Use the difference and save it towards another laptop for next year!  Or a
Gameboy DS + PSP!

  2) Better get at least a 3 year warranty + complete care if you're going the
Dell route.  Their laptops have dropped =significantly= in terms of reliability
from the 2002/2003 to the 2004 year.  See PCMag.com 2004 Reliability Survey.


http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/7/0,1311,sz=1i=77230,00.gif

Here, ignore the 'subjective' ratings, and look closely at the column that
says : percent needing repair - 24%!!!

I don't know about you, but 1 out of 4 notebooks from Dell.com being bad is
no good in my book.  Even Toshiba at 17% or SOny at 16% are far better deals.

Then again, if you're cheap, nothing like giving your sister a bad notebook
that'll have a good chance of breaking =p

   3) BLACK FRIDAY! BLACK FRIDAY! BLACK FRIDAY!!

  Some of the very hottest sales are coming up in a few days, and the day
right after Thanksgiving is usually the one loaded with the hotest Friday 
weekend prices around!  (eg. last year, brand-new Toshiba notebook for $499
after rebates)   Expect killer sales for those that wake up early (yes, you
MUST BE IN LINE at BestBuy and most other places by 3AM or else you will not be
able to buy the hot items!  Just too many people reading
www.fatwallet.com/forums/ - hot deals - search black friday for the
numerous posts already up on all of the hottest deals  steals).

  IF you're smart, you will take advantage of the usual Sat or Sun.
Microcenter.com in-store sales, and make sure you do this right -- 1) get in
line early, 2) scout out the store the day before for open-box deals and put
them on hold if possible 3) sign up for the in-store Microcenter.com credit
card, and take $100 off the purchase, including all sale prices!!!

  Yes, you can get a new iBook open-box for $999 usual, $899 open box, $699
after $300 in rebates, $599 after $100 credit card rebate = $599 for a $999
iBook like me last year.  Excellent eBay resale, naturally, for some needed $.

4) Avoid anything with Celeron in them like the plague -- very poor battery
life, and bechmarks on a 2.8Ghz Celeron are so slow, you might as well throw
away your money.

   Pentium M CPUs typically run about 1.5x to 2x faster than they're rated,
so a 2Ghz P-M is similar to a 3.0-3.4Ghz P4 (depending on application) in a
laptop environement for the top end notebooks.

   BUT just like the recent PCMag.com review found in their annual notebook
review, not all same-speed P-M CPU notebooks run as fast!  So watch the
benchmarks (here pcmag.com, www.cnet.com and other sites usually have lots of
benchmarks), will give you a solid idea what you're buying.

 5) As for wireless, if you get the cheaper eMachines, you can spend the
rest on a Merlin G100 GPRS card ($100 on ebay.com) or usual aircard 555 from

Re: [LIB] HELP: Laptop Advice

2004-11-17 Thread Tory Braybrook
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 08:59:39 -0700
From: Tory Braybrook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] HELP: Laptop Advice


IMHO, Typically good Laptop brands are IBM, Toshiba, Panasonic, Sony.

IBMs are typically no-frill, solid units.
Toshiba are typically reliable and good value.
Panasonic Toughbooks range from rugged to indestructible.
Sony are expensive and very flashy units.

Dell used to be a good choice, but their quality has dropped somewhat in 
recent years. Still, they have decent support and good prices. 

Haven't looked too much at Fujitsu recently - I suspect they are hard to find 
in Canada, so I can't comment on them.

Above and beyond brand names, anything based on the Pentium-M chip (Like the 
Centrino platform stuff) is a good way to go. You usually get a much more 
portable and battery friendly machine than trying to go with a P4 or Athlon.

Tory




Re: [LIB] HELP: Laptop Advice

2004-11-17 Thread lib
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 21:27:16 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] HELP: Laptop Advice
David Chien :
GREAT post...THANK YOU very much!!
Great advice from everyone else...thank you everyone!!
-Joseph
- Original Message - 
From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [LIB] HELP: Laptop Advice


Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 21:24:47 -0800 (PST)
From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] HELP: Laptop Advice
She plays a lot of games, DVD movies, and loves coffee shops (wireless
internet); I can only spend around 2,000.00
I would sincerely appreciate any and all advice, on this system, or any
other out there.
I'm considering buying this system:
  Inspiron 8600, Intel Pentium MProcessor 725 (1.6GHz), 15.4in WUXGA
 0) Keep in mind that laptops, like most other computer components, 
depreciate
AT LEAST 50% PER YEAR or MORE!  In other words, you can expect to buy a 
new
Inspiron 8600 for about 1/2 the price you are paying for it this year, or 
about
$900 next year.

This also means if you're smart and spend less, you can use the money 
you
have left over to upgrade to a new system next year -- rather than 
spending a
whole bunch this year, and not being able to upgrade next year, or the 
year
after that as well.

This is often times the 'smart' way to stay ahead of the game while
spending a smaller amount each year.
 1) The cheaper deal that would run rings around this baby would be the
eMachines Athlon 64+ laptops.  They've benchmarked very high in 3dMarks as 
well
as standard office apps, and although not the ultimate highest in these 
marks,
among the fastest available laptops for a really good price of $1400. 
Even PC
Magazine rated it as the fastest notebook they've ever tested earlier this
year, and you can get lots of tips on tweaking this notebook on the 
eMachines
forums.

http://www.dexplor.com/phpBB2/index.php?sid=b626ba12cf1057831610a500feb04728
http://reviews.cnet.com/eMachines_M6811/4505-3121_7-30994117-5.html
http://www.emachines.com/products/products.html?prod=eMachines_M6810
Benchmarks on one guy's M6805 goes 11,000+ 3dmarks03/3100+ 
3dmarks03 --
pretty awesome for a notebook w/o spending over $1400!

(for comparison,
GPU cooling (100°C-75°C)* Inspiron 8600 * 1.8ghz Pentium M * 128 MB 
Radeon
9600 Pro Turbo (337/242 - 400/300) * 2x256 MB DDR2700 SDRAM * Aquamark 3:
24058 * 3DMark'03: 3404 * 3DMark'01 SE: 13120)

 Use the difference and save it towards another laptop for next year!  Or 
a
Gameboy DS + PSP!

 2) Better get at least a 3 year warranty + complete care if you're going 
the
Dell route.  Their laptops have dropped =significantly= in terms of 
reliability
from the 2002/2003 to the 2004 year.  See PCMag.com 2004 Reliability 
Survey.

http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/7/0,1311,sz=1i=77230,00.gif
   Here, ignore the 'subjective' ratings, and look closely at the column 
that
says : percent needing repair - 24%!!!

   I don't know about you, but 1 out of 4 notebooks from Dell.com being 
bad is
no good in my book.  Even Toshiba at 17% or SOny at 16% are far better 
deals.

   Then again, if you're cheap, nothing like giving your sister a bad 
notebook
that'll have a good chance of breaking =p

  3) BLACK FRIDAY! BLACK FRIDAY! BLACK FRIDAY!!
 Some of the very hottest sales are coming up in a few days, and the 
day
right after Thanksgiving is usually the one loaded with the hotest Friday 

weekend prices around!  (eg. last year, brand-new Toshiba notebook for 
$499
after rebates)   Expect killer sales for those that wake up early 
(yes, you
MUST BE IN LINE at BestBuy and most other places by 3AM or else you will 
not be
able to buy the hot items!  Just too many people reading
www.fatwallet.com/forums/ - hot deals - search black friday for the
numerous posts already up on all of the hottest deals  steals).

 IF you're smart, you will take advantage of the usual Sat or Sun.
Microcenter.com in-store sales, and make sure you do this right -- 1) get 
in
line early, 2) scout out the store the day before for open-box deals and 
put
them on hold if possible 3) sign up for the in-store Microcenter.com 
credit
card, and take $100 off the purchase, including all sale prices!!!

 Yes, you can get a new iBook open-box for $999 usual, $899 open box, 
$699
after $300 in rebates, $599 after $100 credit card rebate = $599 for a 
$999
iBook like me last year.  Excellent eBay resale, naturally, for some 
needed $.

   4) Avoid anything with Celeron in them like the plague -- very poor 
battery
life, and bechmarks on a 2.8Ghz Celeron are so slow, you might as well 
throw
away your money.

  Pentium M CPUs typically run about 1.5x to 2x faster than they're 
rated,
so a 2Ghz P-M is similar to a 3.0-3.4Ghz P4 (depending on application) in 
a
laptop environement for the top end notebooks.

  BUT just like the recent PCMag.com review found in their annual

[LIB] HELP: Laptop Advice

2004-11-15 Thread lib
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 19:44:34 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: HELP: Laptop Advice

I'm buying a laptop for my sister as a Christmas present and I know next to 
nothing about what's out there now. For me, my 110CT does it all, but she 
has other requirements.

She plays a lot of games, DVD movies, and loves coffee shops (wireless 
internet); I can only spend around 2,000.00
I would sincerely appreciate any and all advice, on this system, or any 
other out there.

I'm considering buying this system:

  Inspiron 8600, Intel Pentium MProcessor 725 (1.6GHz), 15.4in WUXGA 
Qty: 1 Unit Price: $1,887.20
  [LP16PHN] - [221-5929]
 I8600C,15.4 IN WUXGA,PM,725(1.
  [1024M2P] - [462-5976]
 SAVE $50: 1GB,DDR,333MHZ,2 DIM
  [ATI128M] - [320-2902]
 128MB ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600
  [60G7200] - [340-9766]
 60GB ULTRA ATA HARD DRIVE (720
  [65W ] - [312-0176]
 65 WATT POWER ADAPTOR, I8600
  [WHXP ] - [412-0408]
  [WHXP ] - [313-2174]
  [WHXP ] - [313-2208]
  [WHXP ] - [412-0689]
  [WHXP ] - [420-4766]
  [WHXP ] - [463-2282]
 GENERIC INSPIRON DELL SUPPORT DELL APPLICATION BACK-UP CD,W/INSPIRON 
TOOLS CD IMAGE RESTORE, INSP WINDOWS XP HOME,SP2,ENG,INSP THANKS FOR 
PURCHASING YOUR DEL
  [INTNIC ] - [430-0493]
 INTEGRATED NIC AND MODEM
  [ADOBER ] - [430-1048]
 ADOBE ACROBAT READER,V6.0,INSP
  [24COMBO] - [313-2182]
  [24COMBO] - [430-1050]
 24X COMBO - DVD/CD-RW,8600 DECODING SW,CYBERLINK POWERDVD
  [TM1450I] - [430-0925]
 DELL WIRELESS 1450,A/B/G,600M/
  [NS ] - [412-0734]
 NO SECURITY SUBSCRIPTION, MCAF
  [MMBASE ] - [412-0691]
 MUSIC MATCH 8.2,BASIC,DIM/INSP
  [ADDBATT] - [312-0066]
 72WATT PRIMARY BATTERY I8500
  [AOLDHS ] - [412-0585]
  [AOLDHS ] - [412-0625]
  [AOLDHS ] - [420-3224]
  [AOLDHS ] - [412-0687]
 AOL DHS DELL/MY WAY HOME PAGE BROADBAND ICON FOR CONSUMER NETZERO 
ISP,DIM/INSP
  [DPS ] - [412-0521]
 DELL PHOTO ALBUM STANDARD
  [ICORELM] - [412-0556]
  [ICORELM] - [412-0714]
 MS ENCLYC 2004,INSP WORDPERFECT PROD PACK,V12,ENG,
  [S2OS ] - [950-1000]
  [S2OS ] - [950-1001]
  [S2OS ] - [950-3338]
  [S2OS ] - [412-0360]
  [S2OS ] - [960-2780]
  [S2OS ] - [900-8221]
 NBD,INSP,BSC,INIT YR,DHS (HIGNBD,INSP,BSC,1YR EXT,DHS (HIGH2YR LIMITED 
WARRANTY SOFT CONTRACTS - BANCTEC TECH SUPPORT, INSPIRON, INITIATECH 
SUPPORT, INSPIRON, 1 YR E
  [CCADP2 ] - [960-3708]
  [CCADP2 ] - [412-0358]
 CC ACC DAM SVC,INSP,2YR,DHS SOFT CONTRACTS - CONSUMER COMP
Dell Media Experience,v2.1, for Inspiron Qty: 1 Unit Price: 
$0.00

DISCOUNT/COUPON APPLIED Qty: 1 Unit Price: $0.00

$49 SHIPPING MAIL-IN REBATE 55110. Reimburses ship cost. Redeem 
within 30 days of ship at www.dell4me.com/rebates Qty: 1 Unit Price: $0.00



  Subtotal:   $1,887.20
  Shipping:   $49.00
  Tax:   $15.07
  Total:   $1,951.27

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Re: [LIB] HELP: Laptop Advice

2004-11-15 Thread RSchw74573
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 22:27:41 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] HELP: Laptop Advice

In a message dated 11/15/2004 7:44:55 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I'm buying a laptop for my sister as a Christmas present and I know next to 
 nothing about what's out there now. For me, my 110CT does it all, but she 
 has other requirements.
 
 She plays a lot of games, DVD movies, and loves coffee shops (wireless 
 internet); I can only spend around 2,000.00
 I would sincerely appreciate any and all advice, on this system, or any 
 other out there.
 
 I'm considering buying this system:
 
   Inspiron 8600, Intel Pentium MProcessor 725 (1.6GHz), 15.4in WUXGA 
 Qty: 1 Unit Price: $1,887.20
   [LP16PHN] - [221-5929]
  I8600C,15.4 IN WUXGA,PM,725(1.
   [1024M2P] - [462-5976]
  SAVE $50: 1GB,DDR,333MHZ,2 DIM
   [ATI128M] - [320-2902]
  128MB ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600
   [60G7200] - [340-9766]
  60GB ULTRA ATA HARD DRIVE (720
   [65W ] - [312-0176]
  65 WATT POWER ADAPTOR, I8600
   [WHXP ] - [412-0408]
   [WHXP ] - [313-2174]
   [WHXP ] - [313-2208]
   [WHXP ] - [412-0689]
   [WHXP ] - [420-4766]
   [WHXP ] - [463-2282]
  GENERIC INSPIRON DELL SUPPORT DELL APPLICATION BACK-UP CD,W/INSPIRON 
 TOOLS CD IMAGE RESTORE, INSP WINDOWS XP HOME,SP2,ENG,INSP THANKS FOR 
 PURCHASING YOUR DEL
   [INTNIC ] - [430-0493]
  INTEGRATED NIC AND MODEM
   [ADOBER ] - [430-1048]
  ADOBE ACROBAT READER,V6.0,INSP
   [24COMBO] - [313-2182]
   [24COMBO] - [430-1050]
  24X COMBO - DVD/CD-RW,8600 DECODING SW,CYBERLINK POWERDVD
   [TM1450I] - [430-0925]
  DELL WIRELESS 1450,A/B/G,600M/
   [NS ] - [412-0734]
  NO SECURITY SUBSCRIPTION, MCAF
   [MMBASE ] - [412-0691]
  MUSIC MATCH 8.2,BASIC,DIM/INSP
   [ADDBATT] - [312-0066]
  72WATT PRIMARY BATTERY I8500
   [AOLDHS ] - [412-0585]
   [AOLDHS ] - [412-0625]
   [AOLDHS ] - [420-3224]
   [AOLDHS ] - [412-0687]
  AOL DHS DELL/MY WAY HOME PAGE BROADBAND ICON FOR CONSUMER NETZERO 
 ISP,DIM/INSP
   [DPS ] - [412-0521]
  DELL PHOTO ALBUM STANDARD
   [ICORELM] - [412-0556]
   [ICORELM] - [412-0714]
  MS ENCLYC 2004,INSP WORDPERFECT PROD PACK,V12,ENG,
   [S2OS ] - [950-1000]
   [S2OS ] - [950-1001]
   [S2OS ] - [950-3338]
   [S2OS ] - [412-0360]
   [S2OS ] - [960-2780]
   [S2OS ] - [900-8221]
  NBD,INSP,BSC,INIT YR,DHS (HIGNBD,INSP,BSC,1YR EXT,DHS (HIGH2YR LIMITED 
 WARRANTY SOFT CONTRACTS - BANCTEC TECH SUPPORT, INSPIRON, INITIATECH 
 SUPPORT, INSPIRON, 1 YR E
   [CCADP2 ] - [960-3708]
   [CCADP2 ] - [412-0358]
  CC ACC DAM SVC,INSP,2YR,DHS SOFT CONTRACTS - CONSUMER COMP
 Dell Media Experience,v2.1, for Inspiron Qty: 1 Unit Price: 
 $0.00
 
 DISCOUNT/COUPON APPLIED Qty: 1 Unit Price: $0.00
 
 $49 SHIPPING MAIL-IN REBATE 55110. Reimburses ship cost. Redeem 
 within 30 days of ship at www.dell4me.com/rebates Qty: 1 Unit Price: $0.00
 
 
 
   Subtotal:   $1,887.20
   Shipping:   $49.00
   Tax:   $15.07
   Total:   $1,951.27
 

You might take a look at the Fujitsu laptops, they seem to have good build 
quality and perhaps the best combination of features within each category.  You 
should be able to break the $2000 barrier, too.

Lee




Re: [LIB] HELP: Laptop Advice

2004-11-15 Thread Mark Srebnik
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 21:33:50 -0800
From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] HELP: Laptop Advice

I agree with Lee. Take a good look at Fujitsu's. Make some really nice
laptops. 

The P7010D is a great little laptop with good performance, small size, and
most features that you would want

They have some other good ones as well if you want something a bit larger...

HTH,

Mark

on 11/15/04 7:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 22:27:41 EST
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] HELP: Laptop Advice
 
 In a message dated 11/15/2004 7:44:55 PM Mountain Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
 I'm buying a laptop for my sister as a Christmas present and I know next to
 nothing about what's out there now. For me, my 110CT does it all, but she
 has other requirements.
 
 She plays a lot of games, DVD movies, and loves coffee shops (wireless
 internet); I can only spend around 2,000.00
 I would sincerely appreciate any and all advice, on this system, or any
 other out there.
 
 I'm considering buying this system:
 
   Inspiron 8600, Intel Pentium MProcessor 725 (1.6GHz), 15.4in WUXGA
 Qty: 1 Unit Price: $1,887.20
   [LP16PHN] - [221-5929]
  I8600C,15.4 IN WUXGA,PM,725(1.
   [1024M2P] - [462-5976]
  SAVE $50: 1GB,DDR,333MHZ,2 DIM
   [ATI128M] - [320-2902]
  128MB ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600
   [60G7200] - [340-9766]
  60GB ULTRA ATA HARD DRIVE (720
   [65W ] - [312-0176]
  65 WATT POWER ADAPTOR, I8600
   [WHXP ] - [412-0408]
   [WHXP ] - [313-2174]
   [WHXP ] - [313-2208]
   [WHXP ] - [412-0689]
   [WHXP ] - [420-4766]
   [WHXP ] - [463-2282]
  GENERIC INSPIRON DELL SUPPORT DELL APPLICATION BACK-UP CD,W/INSPIRON
 TOOLS CD IMAGE RESTORE, INSP WINDOWS XP HOME,SP2,ENG,INSP THANKS FOR
 PURCHASING YOUR DEL
   [INTNIC ] - [430-0493]
  INTEGRATED NIC AND MODEM
   [ADOBER ] - [430-1048]
  ADOBE ACROBAT READER,V6.0,INSP
   [24COMBO] - [313-2182]
   [24COMBO] - [430-1050]
  24X COMBO - DVD/CD-RW,8600 DECODING SW,CYBERLINK POWERDVD
   [TM1450I] - [430-0925]
  DELL WIRELESS 1450,A/B/G,600M/
   [NS ] - [412-0734]
  NO SECURITY SUBSCRIPTION, MCAF
   [MMBASE ] - [412-0691]
  MUSIC MATCH 8.2,BASIC,DIM/INSP
   [ADDBATT] - [312-0066]
  72WATT PRIMARY BATTERY I8500
   [AOLDHS ] - [412-0585]
   [AOLDHS ] - [412-0625]
   [AOLDHS ] - [420-3224]
   [AOLDHS ] - [412-0687]
  AOL DHS DELL/MY WAY HOME PAGE BROADBAND ICON FOR CONSUMER NETZERO
 ISP,DIM/INSP
   [DPS ] - [412-0521]
  DELL PHOTO ALBUM STANDARD
   [ICORELM] - [412-0556]
   [ICORELM] - [412-0714]
  MS ENCLYC 2004,INSP WORDPERFECT PROD PACK,V12,ENG,
   [S2OS ] - [950-1000]
   [S2OS ] - [950-1001]
   [S2OS ] - [950-3338]
   [S2OS ] - [412-0360]
   [S2OS ] - [960-2780]
   [S2OS ] - [900-8221]
  NBD,INSP,BSC,INIT YR,DHS (HIGNBD,INSP,BSC,1YR EXT,DHS (HIGH2YR LIMITED
 WARRANTY SOFT CONTRACTS - BANCTEC TECH SUPPORT, INSPIRON, INITIATECH
 SUPPORT, INSPIRON, 1 YR E
   [CCADP2 ] - [960-3708]
   [CCADP2 ] - [412-0358]
  CC ACC DAM SVC,INSP,2YR,DHS SOFT CONTRACTS - CONSUMER COMP
 Dell Media Experience,v2.1, for Inspiron Qty: 1 Unit Price:
 $0.00
 
 DISCOUNT/COUPON APPLIED Qty: 1 Unit Price: $0.00
 
 $49 SHIPPING MAIL-IN REBATE 55110. Reimburses ship cost. Redeem
 within 30 days of ship at www.dell4me.com/rebates Qty: 1 Unit Price: $0.00
 
 
 
   Subtotal:   $1,887.20
   Shipping:   $49.00
   Tax:   $15.07
   Total:   $1,951.27
 
 
 You might take a look at the Fujitsu laptops, they seem to have good build
 quality and perhaps the best combination of features within each category.
 You 
 should be able to break the $2000 barrier, too.
 
 Lee