[LIB] installing linux on the 50ct

2002-04-11 Thread Paul Berg

Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:32:04 +1000
From: "Paul Berg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: installing linux on the 50ct

Hello all,

Im having problems instlaling redhat linux 7.0 on my 50ct, im guessing its a problem 
with the pcmcia support to continue using the floppy after the boot disk has taken 
over. 

Here are some messages that look bad:

Unable to handle kernal paging request at virtual address f308
Kernal panic: Attempted to kill the idle task
In swapper task - not syncing

i get the same message with the pcmcia boot disk(redhat 7.0) and the ZipSlack boot 
disks.

Any suggestions?

Paul



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Re: [LIB] installing linux on the 50ct

2002-04-11 Thread Raymond

Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 14:40:03 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] installing linux on the 50ct

At 04:38 PM 11/04/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:32:04 +1000
>From: "Paul Berg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: installing linux on the 50ct
>
>Hello all,
>
>Im having problems instlaling redhat linux 7.0 on my 50ct, im guessing its 
>a problem with the pcmcia support to continue using the floppy after the 
>boot disk has taken over.
>
>Here are some messages that look bad:
>
>Unable to handle kernal paging request at virtual address f308
>Kernal panic: Attempted to kill the idle task
>In swapper task - not syncing
>
>i get the same message with the pcmcia boot disk(redhat 7.0) and the 
>ZipSlack boot disks.

Whilst I hear some people HAVE been manage to do a Linux install all on the 
libby, I mucked around with it for a week before giving up and getting a 
$7USD hard drive converter and installing it from a desktop. Just do the 
install as you would normally (make sure you boot from the libby's hard 
drive and activate any overlay that you might wish to use when you put it 
back in the libby). Don't worry about it detecting weird things but don't 
set up X or any other drivers just yet. When you put the hard drive back 
into the libby, Kudzu will reconfigure the stuff that would have been 
autoconfigured then you can go and configure X, PCMCIA, IrDA, drivers, 
sound and so-on in the libby. A LOT easier than trying to get PCMCIA 
installs working ... and Kudzu actually does a pretty good job (my current 
L100 Red Hat 6.2 install went from being in my Athlon XP1600+ with SB Live, 
3 video cards and Intel Ethernet NIC to being in a L50 with a 16bit NIC to 
being in my L100 with a Cardbus NIC and weird X setup and for the most 
part, Kudzu took care of most of the reconfiguring with the exception of X 
and some of the PCMCIA stuff).

I posted a step-by-step this-is-what-I-did-and-the-walls-I-ran-into thingy 
to this list a while back when I got my 20 gig hard drive with EZ-Bios 
working in my L50 booting Linux and Win95, perhaps you might want to have a 
peek in the archives for it.

Hope this helps!

- Raymond

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Re: [LIB] installing linux on the 50ct

2002-04-12 Thread neil barnes

Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 07:50:36
From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] installing linux on the 50ct


>Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:32:04 +1000
>From: "Paul Berg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: installing linux on the 50ct
>
>Hello all,
>
>Im having problems instlaling redhat linux 7.0 on my 50ct, im guessing its 
>a problem with the pcmcia support to continue using the floppy after the 
>boot disk has taken over.
>
>Here are some messages that look bad:
>
>Unable to handle kernal paging request at virtual address f308
>Kernal panic: Attempted to kill the idle task
>In swapper task - not syncing
>
>i get the same message with the pcmcia boot disk(redhat 7.0) and the 
>ZipSlack boot disks.
>
>Any suggestions?
>

Haven't tried Redhat, but experience suggests that the easiest way to 
install current linuxes is to use a desktop and physically move the discs.

You could check out the RULE page - the main problem (apart from needing two 
pcmcia slots) is that the installers don't want to run in so small a memory, 
and RULE are looking at small memory installations of current distros. It 
looks like someone has it running on a lib 30.

http://www.freesoftware.fsf.org/rule/index.html

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Re: [LIB] installing linux on the 50ct

2002-04-16 Thread Michael Miller

Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 19:56:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michael Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] installing linux on the 50ct

> Im having problems instlaling redhat linux 7.0 on my 50ct, im guessing
> its a problem with the pcmcia support to continue using the floppy
> after the boot disk has taken over.

Don't know if this will help (and this is from memory ...)

I seem to recall a dosutils directory, containing (among other things) an
appropriately named installation batch file.  I booted my lib (in dos
under win9x), navigated to this directory on the cd, double-clicked on the
batch file, and all went smoothly thereafter.

Mike




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Re: [LIB] installing linux on the 50ct

2002-04-16 Thread Paul Berg

Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 10:31:01 +1000
From: "Paul Berg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] installing linux on the 50ct

Ok, looks promising..

but the problem now is that the pcmcia cd-rom doesn't have a power supply
and for some reason turns itself off when it tries to read a cd(when on
batteries), i've been meaning to order one from panasonic but havent come
around to it. I was trying to install windows and get the networking to work
and transfer the files over that..
but... i've only got the 95 floppy install and when its installed all i get
is bsod when i try to click on anything.. i can get to the desktop and look
at it but thats all i can do. so.. its either dos networking or putting the
drive in another machine.. but im not really that keen with swapping
hardware at the moment. so.. can anyone reccomend something that may be a
little easier than dos networking?

Paul
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> Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 19:56:55 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Michael Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LIB] installing linux on the 50ct
>
> > Im having problems instlaling redhat linux 7.0 on my 50ct, im guessing
> > its a problem with the pcmcia support to continue using the floppy
> > after the boot disk has taken over.
>
> Don't know if this will help (and this is from memory ...)
>
> I seem to recall a dosutils directory, containing (among other things) an
> appropriately named installation batch file.  I booted my lib (in dos
> under win9x), navigated to this directory on the cd, double-clicked on the
> batch file, and all went smoothly thereafter.
>
> Mike
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Re: [LIB] installing linux on the 50ct

2002-04-17 Thread Raymond

Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 07:47:48 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] installing linux on the 50ct


>>>so.. can anyone reccomend something that may be a
>>>little easier than dos networking?
>>
>>I figured by far the easiest way to install Linux on these little laptops
>>is to put it into a desktop (you can get adapters for $7 or so to get the
>>cable to fit) and install Linux that way. By the time you've mucked around
>>with trying to get PCMCIA working on the libby with install and all that
>>you could have gotten out, gotten an adapter, shoved the hard drive into
>>your desktop (disconnect your existing hard drives if you're paranoid) and
>>started the install process (and maybe finished!). This is talking from
>>experience (and I'm certainly no newbie when it comes to trying to get
>>Linux working on laptops!).
>
>One point - if you're building a dual boot system, it's worth (if the 
>installation method allows it and you can spare the space) dumping the CD 
>onto the windows partition, then booting from a 'hd.img' or equivalent 
>floppy in the desktop. Mandrake permits this, I assume redhat does too.
>
>If nothing else, you have all the installation RPMS available later...

Well my experience with this is that as much as possible, keep the install 
process standard (which in most cases means boot off the CD and execute a 
standard install, adding options if necessary then making specific changes 
like X and PCMCIA once installation is complete) ... thats the way that the 
installers would have tested the most and is least likely to stuff up or 
have unintended 'consequences'. Remember, there are many, many ways of 
installing and not all of them will have been rigorously tested. You can 
always copy the RPMs across after installation, just before you put the 
hard drive back in the libby ...


- Raymond

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Re: [LIB] installing linux on the 50ct

2002-04-17 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 02:16:26 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] installing linux on the 50ct

>Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 07:47:48 +0800
>From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Well my experience with this is that as much as possible, keep the install 
>process standard (which in most cases means boot off the CD and execute a 
>standard install, adding options if necessary then making specific changes 
>like X and PCMCIA once installation is complete) ... thats the way that the 
>installers would have tested the most and is least likely to stuff up 
>orhave unintended 'consequences'. Remember, there are many, many ways of 
>installing and not all of them will have been rigorously tested. You can 
>always copy the RPMs across after installation, just before you put the 
>hard drive back in the libby ...


Hey Raymond,

Would you have any experience in tracking down drivers to get the Mandrake 
7.1 installation disk to be seen on various CD-ROM drives?  I'm wondering if 
maybe I can install Mandrake right onto the L50 from a CD-ROM drive, I might 
have better luck at getting a clean installation than trying to clean up 
problems from installing on the desktop, and then plugging it into the L50.

I've got the HP M820E, and EXP Traveler 2020 CD-ROM drives, but only a few 
drives are listed on the Mandrake installation disk at boot.

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Re: [LIB] installing linux on the 50ct

2002-04-18 Thread Raymond

Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 19:09:58 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] installing linux on the 50ct

At 07:18 PM 17/04/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 02:16:26 +
>From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [LIB] installing linux on the 50ct
>
>>Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 07:47:48 +0800
>>From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>Well my experience with this is that as much as possible, keep the 
>>install process standard (which in most cases means boot off the CD and 
>>execute a standard install, adding options if necessary then making 
>>specific changes like X and PCMCIA once installation is complete) ... 
>>thats the way that the installers would have tested the most and is least 
>>likely to stuff up orhave unintended 'consequences'. Remember, there are 
>>many, many ways of installing and not all of them will have been 
>>rigorously tested. You can always copy the RPMs across after 
>>installation, just before you put the hard drive back in the libby ...
>
>
>Hey Raymond,
>
>Would you have any experience in tracking down drivers to get the Mandrake 
>7.1 installation disk to be seen on various CD-ROM drives?

I gave up on PCMCIA CD-ROM drives under DOS or Linux boot disks ages ago 
when I jumped through hoops to get a DOS PCMCIA disk thingy working on a 
Portege 3110 for work ... I stick to IDE drives (be it internal or by 
putting the hard drive into a desktop). Having said that, by the looks of 
things, its actually easier to get parallel CD-ROM drives working under 
Linux or DOS boot disks than it is getting PCMCIA ones working ... go figure.


>   I'm wondering if maybe I can install Mandrake right onto the L50 from a 
> CD-ROM drive, I might have better luck at getting a clean installation 
> than trying to clean up problems from installing on the desktop, and then 
> plugging it into the L50.

Well Mandrake is just a 'refined' version of Redhat ... Kudzu does an 
admirable job of reconfiguring and I've never had a problem with moving 
Linux installs from computer to computer or from desktop to laptop ... or 
rather I've never had a problem that I wouldn't have encountered if I 
installed Linux straight onto the target computer.


- Raymond

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