RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB suggestions..?

2006-02-03 Thread Chris Hogan \(social\)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 13:07:42 +0100
From: Chris Hogan \(social\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB suggestions..?

I've got the Seagate 100GB and it's a nice
 model - esp. so given their 5 year warranty (best
 in the market, in the USA anyways).  Solid product
 and I'm satisfied with them.

I'm about to get a new drive too -- but I'm more interested in noise (or
rather lack of it). I've been using a 10mb IBM travelstar for about 6 years
and it has always been so noisy that I thought it was about to grind to a
halt, but my 20Mb version of the same disk is completely inaudible in my
Lib.

David -- I have found 3.5 Seagate 40Mb drives quite noisy in desktops, how
is yours?

Can anyone make any recommendations for quiet drives, or noisy ones to
avoid?

TIA, Chris

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RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB suggestions..?

2006-02-03 Thread John Martin
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 08:22:20 -0800
From: John Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB suggestions..?

Hello Chris Hogan...

That is interesting you say that.  I have a 2.5 IBM Travelstar 12GB drive 
and it is the loudest 2.5 I have. (DARA-212000)  Noise as you describe... 
makes me want to open it and shake out the metallic sand that it sounds 
like is inside it.  I imagine tiny brake pads having gone metal to metal. 
 : )
I have only owned a few 2.5 drives in this 9.5mm thickness though.  I have 
a couple of Toshiba 20GB Drives that are silent inside my Libretto(s) 
however.  The newest drive I bought was a Toshiba 100GB  (GAX) and it is 
very quiet, only a TINY bit audible compared to the Toshiba 20GIG drives I 
have.  To give an example, in a room where you can hear cooling fans from 
desktop systems, you can not hear this 100GB drive in the Libretto.  In a 
silent room you can.  I think it very quiet... no more than 10% more 
audible than the Toshiba 20GB drives I own.  BUT the (at least the one I 
own) Toshiba 100GB has a slight vibration to it that can be felt.  That 
bothered me the first time I started it up.  So tiny to have vibration like 
that.  It is a 5400RPM drive, so I guess is has more potential for 
imbalance than a lower RPM drive.  I have not noticed much vibration in 
drives since 2.5 drives were 13mm (12.7?) thick.  I would think anything 
that vibrates would have a higher tendency to wear, but my old Toshiba 13mm 
drives still work today and two are used daily now for approximately 10 
years.  I just reached down and felt the case on a 486 computer that is 
never turned off which contains a Toshiba 120MB 2.5 drive (adapted to 3.5 
controller/power) and it is STILL vibrating just like it did when new. 
 Amazing.  I hope my newest 100GB Toshiba (GAX) lasts that long as well as 
my Librettos!  : )

Hope that helps...

John Martin

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Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 13:07:42 +0100
From: Chris Hogan \(social\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB suggestions..?

I've got the Seagate 100GB and it's a nice
 model - esp. so given their 5 year warranty (best
 in the market, in the USA anyways).  Solid product
 and I'm satisfied with them.

I'm about to get a new drive too -- but I'm more interested in noise (or
rather lack of it). I've been using a 10mb IBM travelstar for about 6 years
and it has always been so noisy that I thought it was about to grind to a
halt, but my 20Mb version of the same disk is completely inaudible in my
Lib.

David -- I have found 3.5 Seagate 40Mb drives quite noisy in desktops, how
is yours?

Can anyone make any recommendations for quiet drives, or noisy ones to
avoid?

TIA, Chris

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RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB suggestions..?

2006-02-03 Thread john

Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 10:58:36 + (UTC)
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Subject: RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB suggestions..?

On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Chris Hogan (social) wrote:


Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 13:07:42 +0100
From: Chris Hogan \(social\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB suggestions..?


snip


Can anyone make any recommendations for quiet drives, or noisy ones to
avoid?


Both IBM and Toshiba. Most hard drives are very quiet as long as they are 
not driven wide open all the time.


john




RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB suggestions..?

2006-02-03 Thread john

Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 11:00:58 + (UTC)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB suggestions..?

On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, John Martin wrote:


Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 08:22:20 -0800
From: John Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB suggestions..?


snip

sounds like the heads are stuck open. I have two drives, a toshiba and ibm 
that are like that.


john




Re: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB suggestions..?

2006-02-03 Thread john

Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 11:07:53 + (UTC)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB suggestions..?

On Thu, 2 Feb 2006, Digby Tarvin wrote:


Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 19:27:49 +
From: Digby Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB suggestions..?



snip

Anyone care to share any experiences with the various models? The
prices seem pretty close, and the main difference in specs seem
to be rotational speed.

snip

I have done a quick survey of local vendors and found the following
drives which are listed as compatible on the adorable libretto site:
Seagate ST9100824A 5400RPM UK 111.60
Toshiba MK1031GAS  4200RPM UK  95.77
Fujitsu MHU2100AH  5400RPM UK 112.77


not with the specific drives but found the seagate had the shortest 
lifespan.




So I would be particularly interested in any good or bad experiences
with any of those models...

snip

john




RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB suggestions..?

2006-02-03 Thread David Chien
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 18:08:42 -0800 (PST)
From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB suggestions..?

 David -- I have found 3.5 Seagate 40Mb drives quite noisy in desktops, how
 is yours?

   My 400GB seagate 3.5 desktop HD is noisier than my Western Digitals. 
Definitely noticably louder.  Western Digitals tend to run decently quiet, and
their heads don't clank around as noisly.
 
 Can anyone make any recommendations for quiet drives, or noisy ones to
 avoid?

  As for the Seagate 100GB 2.5 HD model, it's quiet enough that I don't notice
anything unusually loud about it.  It's just a quiet whirl and good enough for
me.  Not objective since I don't have a sound meter, but it's definitely okay.

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Re: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB suggestions..?

2006-02-02 Thread David Chien
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 17:49:09 -0800 (PST)
From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Toshiba 100GB suggestions..?


 I have done a quick survey of local vendors and found the following
 drives which are listed as compatible on the adorable libretto site:
  Seagate ST9100824A 5400RPM UK 111.60
  Toshiba MK1031GAS  4200RPM UK  95.77
  Fujitsu MHU2100AH  5400RPM UK 112.77
 
   I've got the Seagate 100GB and it's a nice model - esp. so given their 5
year warranty (best in the market, in the USA anyways).  Solid product and I'm
satisfied with them.  

   Keep in mind that you should also look at each drive's power ratings for
spin up, read, write, and sleep.  The drives that use more will result in
shorter battery life, but perhaps in exchange for faster performance.  It will
be something to keep in mind.

Also, drives that use more power in these operations tend to run hotter.

www.tomshardware.com and others sites have good reviews on 100GB HDs.

Myself, I'd go with the Seagate or Toshiba, if not a Hitachi/IBM.  Right
now, I go with Seagate drives because of their long warranties (not that the
drives won't fail, but at least I get a brand-new replacement in 5 years if
they do fail for any reason).

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