Re: libretto sucessor?
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:59:03 +0100 From: Andy Lawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: libretto sucessor? David Chien wrote: snip Diamond Mako, clearning out at outpost.com and tigerdirect.com for $99. 16MB, keyboard, grayscale LCD, word processing, spreadsheet, optional modem and Opera Internet web browser. One of the few devices smaller than a Libretto with very good web browser compatiblity with the majority of sites out there today, but even I'd just go Palm or Libretto instead (L50 goes for $200-300 on ebay, so why bother with a grayscale screen?). snip For right-pondians, the Diamond Mako is in fact a Psion Revo, so $99 is a _very_ good price. Not sure if either of the reatailers David mentioned will ship internationally, but I'm almost tempted to find out - however as I've already got a Libretto and a Palm I can't really justify another little toy at the moment. ...Andy ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: libretto sucessor?
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 17:14:40 +0800 From: Adrian Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: libretto sucessor? On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 02:10:43AM -0700, Andy Lawn wrote: For right-pondians, the Diamond Mako is in fact a Psion Revo, so $99 is a _very_ good price. Not sure if either of the reatailers David mentioned will ship internationally, but I'm almost tempted to find out - outpost.com does -- I just ordered one, but they may be backordered. (And no wonder -- most other places are retailing at 2-3x that!) however as I've already got a Libretto and a Palm I can't really justify another little toy at the moment. You have to justify toys? 8-) - Adrian ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: libretto sucessor?
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 11:32:18 -0400 From: David Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: libretto sucessor? What I was specifically noting in the design of the Toshiba handheld was the storage space that, using the 1GB microdrive, was approaching a practical and useful amount. I'm an old Zaurus fan myself, and no lover of Windows CE. Yet I use a CE handheld because I don't want to bother with tweaking various proprietary sync systems. For me, the instant on is the single biggest factor for CE or other handheld OS's: I just don't have time for a boot sequence on the road. So as handhelds approach laptop specs in terms of processor speed, RAM, and storage space, a successor to the Libretto will only be better by virtue of having instant on, even if I have to accept Windows CE as the price. (I'd sure like just a FEW slightly useful apps, though!) Alas, no proprietary device is likely to even have a chance unless it can demonstrate vast superiority in some area: portable information appliances are going to be appendages of some home-based unit, at least until wireless becomes a real force. My old Zaurus does almost as much as the Mako seems to, and while the Rex is a neat form factor, I can never get one to reliably sync (doubtless my incompetence), and the extremely limited ability to input data takes it out of contention as a useful device, for me. The ultimate goal is a pocketable widget with instant on, full and total duplication of any and all of my information and apps(or immediate access thereto), acceptable battery life (which is why I don't like color screens, at this point) and wireless full internet access. Someday, we can hope. Griffin David said: Not a Libretto successor, just another boring Windows CE palmtop. 1GB microdrives in a palmtop have already been done on the Palms. The Sharp Zaurus (Japanese version) provides far more features and functionality if you're to buy a japanese pda. In the USA, simply buy a Palm OS palmtop - they've taken up 80% of the market share, have more programs and support and accessories than any other platform, and can simply be considered the 'standard'. Too many dead WinCE palmtops from the past not used anymore to bother with any WinCE device. Beyond that? Diamond Mako, clearning out at outpost.com and tigerdirect.com for $99. 16MB, keyboard, grayscale LCD, word processing, spreadsheet, optional modem and Opera Internet web browser. One of the few devices smaller than a Libretto with very good web browser compatiblity with the majority of sites out there today, but even I'd just go Palm or Libretto instead (L50 goes for $200-300 on ebay, so why bother with a grayscale screen?). Xircom Rex. My REX Pro 3 runs happily. PCMCIA Type II card form factor, and you can download all of your appointments and addressses into this device. Much handier than a Palm for me since it has limited functionality on just the basics. (the Palm? Nothing but playing PocketChess all day ;) ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: libretto sucessor?
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 14:39:34 -0400 From: Brian Levy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: libretto sucessor? I use the REX 5000 with my Libretto and ofc laptop and sync with both Lotus Notes and Lotus Organizer. On my Libretto, I also have it sync to my Palm M100. I had some difficulty getting the sync coordinated but finally got it to work with contacts, to-dos and calendar when I eliminated catagories. Still working on the memo/notepad. The limitations of the REX really is not a problem since I cary the Libretto with my almost 100% of the time and keep it in hibernation mode. I use the Organizer and update all other units from it every business day. I keep the REX in my pocket for those times (lunch, etc.) when I have left the Libretto behind. I do agree the input ability is a bit tough but with time I've learned to use shortcuts to speed entry up. I'm not sure why I bother with the M100 except I bought it used for cheap money. It stays on my desk at the house. Original Message Follows From: David Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: libretto sucessor? Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 08:35:46 -0700 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 11:32:18 -0400 From: David Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: libretto sucessor? What I was specifically noting in the design of the Toshiba handheld was the storage space that, using the 1GB microdrive, was approaching a practical and useful amount. I'm an old Zaurus fan myself, and no lover of Windows CE. Yet I use a CE handheld because I don't want to bother with tweaking various proprietary sync systems. For me, the instant on is the single biggest factor for CE or other handheld OS's: I just don't have time for a boot sequence on the road. So as handhelds approach laptop specs in terms of processor speed, RAM, and storage space, a successor to the Libretto will only be better by virtue of having instant on, even if I have to accept Windows CE as the price. (I'd sure like just a FEW slightly useful apps, though!) Alas, no proprietary device is likely to even have a chance unless it can demonstrate vast superiority in some area: portable information appliances are going to be appendages of some home-based unit, at least until wireless becomes a real force. My old Zaurus does almost as much as the Mako seems to, and while the Rex is a neat form factor, I can never get one to reliably sync (doubtless my incompetence), and the extremely limited ability to input data takes it out of contention as a useful device, for me. The ultimate goal is a pocketable widget with instant on, full and total duplication of any and all of my information and apps(or immediate access thereto), acceptable battery life (which is why I don't like color screens, at this point) and wireless full internet access. Someday, we can hope. Griffin David said: Not a Libretto successor, just another boring Windows CE palmtop. 1GB microdrives in a palmtop have already been done on the Palms. The Sharp Zaurus (Japanese version) provides far more features and functionality if you're to buy a japanese pda. In the USA, simply buy a Palm OS palmtop - they've taken up 80% of the market share, have more programs and support and accessories than any other platform, and can simply be considered the 'standard'. Too many dead WinCE palmtops from the past not used anymore to bother with any WinCE device. Beyond that? Diamond Mako, clearning out at outpost.com and tigerdirect.com for $99. 16MB, keyboard, grayscale LCD, word processing, spreadsheet, optional modem and Opera Internet web browser. One of the few devices smaller than a Libretto with very good web browser compatiblity with the majority of sites out there today, but even I'd just go Palm or Libretto instead (L50 goes for $200-300 on ebay, so why bother with a grayscale screen?). Xircom Rex. My REX Pro 3 runs happily. PCMCIA Type II card form factor, and you can download all of your appointments and addressses into this device. Much handier than a Palm for me since it has limited functionality on just the basics. (the Palm? Nothing but playing PocketChess all day ;) ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... ** _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http
libretto sucessor?
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 12:44:16 -0400 From: David Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: libretto sucessor? I haven't been reading the digest lately, so I apologize if this is old news, but here's the new handheld from Toshiba, to be released in Japan in September. The item I find fascinating is the onboard microdrive...1 GB. Looks like the replacement for the libretto is coming up from the handheld market rather than down from the laptop. Griffin http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2001_07/pr1601.htm ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
