Re: [License-discuss] New maintainer, changing license?

2017-07-29 Thread John Cowan
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Thorsten Glaser  wrote:

>
> Note that this only applies in the USA, not, for example,
> in Germany, where such a thing is impossible.
>

Well, yes and no.  It is impossible to transfer the moral rights, but since
2008 the right of exploitation of all uses known and unknown can be
transferred exclusively, which amounts to the same thing.

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Re: [License-discuss] New maintainer, changing license?

2017-07-29 Thread Thorsten Glaser
David Woolley dixit:

> On 29/07/17 10:27, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
>> The copyright holder stopped working on the project in 2005.
>> I am continuing the development, but do not have the copyright.
>
> You should get the copyright owner to assign copyright to you, as, 

Note that this only applies in the USA, not, for example,
in Germany, where such a thing is impossible.

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Re: [License-discuss] New maintainer, changing license?

2017-07-29 Thread David Woolley

On 29/07/17 10:27, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:

The copyright holder stopped working on the project in 2005.
I am continuing the development, but do not have the copyright.


You should get the copyright owner to assign copyright to you, as, 
currently, no-one is able to enforce the licence except for non-trivial 
parts of the code contributed by third parties, given the current owner 
seems to have lost interest.


If it is an important project, the FSF might also be willing to buy the 
copyright for a token amount (one cent or one dollar), but I think that 
would require that right in all contributions have been assigned to the 
original owner.

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Re: [License-discuss] New maintainer, changing license?

2017-07-29 Thread Johnny A. Solbu
On Saturday 29. July 2017 11.16, David Woolley wrote:
> On 29/07/17 09:38, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
> > I am the new upstream maintainer of the cd ripper Grip
> 
> What do you mean by the maintainer?

The copyright holder stopped working on the project in 2005.
I am continuing the development, but do not have the copyright.

> To the extent that you do not own the copyright in any particular file, 
> you can redistribute that file under the relevant version 3 licence.
> 
> If you have accepted non-trivial changes without copyright being 
> assigned to you, or the right to re-licence, you do not fully own the 
> copyright in the affected files and cannot make an arbitrary change of 
> licence, but can still upgrade to version 3.

My intention is to upgrade to GPL version 3, provided that is allowed.
Sorry if that was unclear.

My understanding is that this is allowed, but I wanted to check with this list 
that my understanding is correct. :-)

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Re: [License-discuss] New maintainer, changing license?

2017-07-29 Thread David Woolley

On 29/07/17 09:38, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:

I am the new upstream maintainer of the cd ripper Grip


What do you mean by the maintainer?  If you are the actual copyright 
owner, you can distribute it under any licence you like, as long as you 
continue to honour requests to supply the source code for versions you 
previously distributed.


To the extent that you do not own the copyright in any particular file, 
you can redistribute that file under the relevant version 3 licence.


If you have accepted non-trivial changes without copyright being 
assigned to you, or the right to re-licence, you do not fully own the 
copyright in the affected files and cannot make an arbitrary change of 
licence, but can still upgrade to version 3.




The code licence is stated as follows:

==
 * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
 * modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as
 * published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the
 * License, or (at your option) any later version.
==
Some files are licenced under the Lesser GPL, with the same type of terms 
saying that one can use a later version.

My question is: Does this mean that I can change it to say it's released under 
GPL version 3 and later?



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Re: [License-discuss] New maintainer, changing license?

2017-07-29 Thread Henrik Ingo
My layman understanding is that that is exactly what it says.

On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Johnny A. Solbu  wrote:
> Hi.
> I am the new upstream maintainer of the cd ripper Grip
> The code licence is stated as follows:
>
> ==
>  * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
>  * modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as
>  * published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the
>  * License, or (at your option) any later version.
> ==
> Some files are licenced under the Lesser GPL, with the same type of terms 
> saying that one can use a later version.
>
> My question is: Does this mean that I can change it to say it's released 
> under GPL version 3 and later?
>
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[License-discuss] New maintainer, changing license?

2017-07-29 Thread Johnny A. Solbu
Hi.
I am the new upstream maintainer of the cd ripper Grip
The code licence is stated as follows:

==
 * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or 
 * modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as 
 * published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the
 * License, or (at your option) any later version.
==
Some files are licenced under the Lesser GPL, with the same type of terms 
saying that one can use a later version.

My question is: Does this mean that I can change it to say it's released under 
GPL version 3 and later?

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