[Lift] Re: How much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a simple blog with Lift?

2009-10-16 Thread Viktor Klang
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:41 PM, David Pollak  wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Viktor Klang wrote:
>
>> I started Scala 2 years ago by reading the Lift code.
>> so DPPs basically responsible for my Scala code... ;)
>
>
> So what you're saying is that you're all my fault... gak. ;-)
>
>

Thanks for the warming words David ;)


>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:58 AM, opyate  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I bought the Scala book in PDF format (Odersky/Spoon/Venners) and
>>> pretty much jumped around it (benefit of PDF is the hyperlinks) for
>>> about a week. I am probably proficient with everything in chapters
>>> 1-18 which is still pretty much beginner/novice level, but I need the
>>> web/book before I tackle most other concepts.
>>>
>>> But I just wanted to get my hands dirty with a couple of apps and
>>> dived straight in. You learn by doing. You learn by reading someone
>>> else's code, which is what I've been doing a lot with the Lift sources
>>> (I have a local Git clone, and set it up in Eclipse).
>>>
>>> So, in a nutshell: learn the Scala basics, and get your hands dirty.
>>> Open a console and faff about, then start writing apps! :-)
>>>
>>> What I've done so far can be found here:
>>> http://github.com/opyate/Ken
>>> http://github.com/opyate/yauser
>>>
>>> Happy coding!
>>> Juan
>>>
>>> On Oct 15, 6:07 am, ngocdaothanh  wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > I have experience with Rails and Java. I'm new to Scala and Lift. I
>>> > want to ask how much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a
>>> > simple blog with Lift?
>>> >
>>> > Rails is easy to learn because it require little Ruby knowledge to get
>>> > started. Having read the Lift book, I feel one must have some advanced
>>> > Scala knowledge to get started. Could anyone provide some kind of
>>> > guideline or curriculum of Scala and Lift to get started with Lift?
>>> >
>>> > I would like to write a simple blog to learn Lift. But don't know how
>>> > much Scala knowledge I should have to jump in Lift.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Viktor Klang
>>
>> Blog: klangism.blogspot.com
>> Twttr: viktorklang
>> Wave: viktor.kl...@googlewave.com
>> Code: github.com/viktorklang
>>
>> AKKA Committer - akkasource.org
>> Lift Committer - liftweb.com
>> Atmosphere Committer - atmosphere.dev.java.net
>> SoftPub founder: http://groups.google.com/group/softpub
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
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> Beginning Scala http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890
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> Surf the harmonics
>
>
> >
>


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Wave: viktor.kl...@googlewave.com
Code: github.com/viktorklang

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[Lift] Re: How much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a simple blog with Lift?

2009-10-15 Thread Naftoli Gugenheim

Ah, like some frameworks like CakePHP have as a basic tutorial?
Look on GitHub under examples/hellolift -- it seems to be a blog demo. (In case 
you're not familiar with the maven layout, the source folder is src/main/scala.)
It may be helpful to copy the code from there manually, and try to understand 
each line one at a time.
Although it's not the simplest possible blog; apparently it tries to show off a 
range of lift's features.

-
ngocdaothanh wrote:


> Can you outline the feature set it should have? And what is your time frame?

I study Lift in my free time, so basically there's no strict time
frame. For a start, I would like to just study enough Scala to be able
to use Lift, and just enough Lift to be able to create a simple blog
as an exercise. The blog only has 2 resources: user and article.

Because I have Java experience and I am working with Erlang full-time
now, I am familiar with most ideas of Scala. I just feel that its
syntax is too complicated, so for a start I only want to study enough
Scala to be able to use Lift. Lift is my final target, Scala is a by-
product :D.

Thank you all.


On Oct 16, 4:34 am, Wilson MacGyver  wrote:
> Generally for people new to scala but with primary intention to
> explore lift, I suggest
> the following
>
> Get David Pollak's "Beginning Scala" book, read ch 1-5. (I still think
> it's a good idea to read ch 6 to know how actors work, but for using
> lift, you can
> put it in the back burner.)
>
> Then start on lift tutorial. Since you already know java and rails. A bunch of
> David's comparions to Ruby/Java will feel right at home for you.
>
> Also with IntelliJ now have a opensource community edition with scala support.
> I highly recommend that as a Scala IDE. But for the purpose of learning,
> The Scala Repl will be enough for exploring.
>
> Good luck and have fun.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:07 AM, ngocdaothanh  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I have experience with Rails and Java. I'm new to Scala and Lift. I
> > want to ask how much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a
> > simple blog with Lift?
>
> > Rails is easy to learn because it require little Ruby knowledge to get
> > started. Having read the Lift book, I feel one must have some advanced
> > Scala knowledge to get started. Could anyone provide some kind of
> > guideline or curriculum of Scala and Lift to get started with Lift?
>
> > I would like to write a simple blog to learn Lift. But don't know how
> > much Scala knowledge I should have to jump in Lift.
>
> > Thanks.
>
> --
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[Lift] Re: How much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a simple blog with Lift?

2009-10-15 Thread ngocdaothanh

> Can you outline the feature set it should have? And what is your time frame?

I study Lift in my free time, so basically there's no strict time
frame. For a start, I would like to just study enough Scala to be able
to use Lift, and just enough Lift to be able to create a simple blog
as an exercise. The blog only has 2 resources: user and article.

Because I have Java experience and I am working with Erlang full-time
now, I am familiar with most ideas of Scala. I just feel that its
syntax is too complicated, so for a start I only want to study enough
Scala to be able to use Lift. Lift is my final target, Scala is a by-
product :D.

Thank you all.


On Oct 16, 4:34 am, Wilson MacGyver  wrote:
> Generally for people new to scala but with primary intention to
> explore lift, I suggest
> the following
>
> Get David Pollak's "Beginning Scala" book, read ch 1-5. (I still think
> it's a good idea to read ch 6 to know how actors work, but for using
> lift, you can
> put it in the back burner.)
>
> Then start on lift tutorial. Since you already know java and rails. A bunch of
> David's comparions to Ruby/Java will feel right at home for you.
>
> Also with IntelliJ now have a opensource community edition with scala support.
> I highly recommend that as a Scala IDE. But for the purpose of learning,
> The Scala Repl will be enough for exploring.
>
> Good luck and have fun.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:07 AM, ngocdaothanh  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I have experience with Rails and Java. I'm new to Scala and Lift. I
> > want to ask how much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a
> > simple blog with Lift?
>
> > Rails is easy to learn because it require little Ruby knowledge to get
> > started. Having read the Lift book, I feel one must have some advanced
> > Scala knowledge to get started. Could anyone provide some kind of
> > guideline or curriculum of Scala and Lift to get started with Lift?
>
> > I would like to write a simple blog to learn Lift. But don't know how
> > much Scala knowledge I should have to jump in Lift.
>
> > Thanks.
>
> --
> Omnem crede diem tibi diluxisse supremum.

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[Lift] Re: How much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a simple blog with Lift?

2009-10-15 Thread Wilson MacGyver

Generally for people new to scala but with primary intention to
explore lift, I suggest
the following

Get David Pollak's "Beginning Scala" book, read ch 1-5. (I still think
it's a good idea to read ch 6 to know how actors work, but for using
lift, you can
put it in the back burner.)

Then start on lift tutorial. Since you already know java and rails. A bunch of
David's comparions to Ruby/Java will feel right at home for you.

Also with IntelliJ now have a opensource community edition with scala support.
I highly recommend that as a Scala IDE. But for the purpose of learning,
The Scala Repl will be enough for exploring.

Good luck and have fun.

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:07 AM, ngocdaothanh  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have experience with Rails and Java. I'm new to Scala and Lift. I
> want to ask how much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a
> simple blog with Lift?
>
> Rails is easy to learn because it require little Ruby knowledge to get
> started. Having read the Lift book, I feel one must have some advanced
> Scala knowledge to get started. Could anyone provide some kind of
> guideline or curriculum of Scala and Lift to get started with Lift?
>
> I would like to write a simple blog to learn Lift. But don't know how
> much Scala knowledge I should have to jump in Lift.
>
> Thanks.
>
> >
>



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[Lift] Re: How much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a simple blog with Lift?

2009-10-15 Thread Naftoli Gugenheim

Can you outline the feature set it should have? And what is your time frame?

-
ngocdaothanh wrote:


Hi,

I have experience with Rails and Java. I'm new to Scala and Lift. I
want to ask how much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a
simple blog with Lift?

Rails is easy to learn because it require little Ruby knowledge to get
started. Having read the Lift book, I feel one must have some advanced
Scala knowledge to get started. Could anyone provide some kind of
guideline or curriculum of Scala and Lift to get started with Lift?

I would like to write a simple blog to learn Lift. But don't know how
much Scala knowledge I should have to jump in Lift.

Thanks.



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[Lift] Re: How much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a simple blog with Lift?

2009-10-15 Thread David Pollak
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Ross Mellgren  wrote:

> David, do you secretly work for a brewery somewhere? It seems like you
> either grant or receive beers on a regular basis ;-)
>

Nah... but it's a great currency, and always very liquid. ;-)


>
> -Ross
>
> On Oct 15, 2009, at 3:04 PM, David Pollak wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Peter Robinett 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> David's Beginning Scala book is fantastic: it's perfectly paced, gets
>> straight to the point, and is written in a nice voice.
>>
>
> Guess I owe you a beer for that promo :-)
>
>
>>
>> Peter Robinett
>>
>> On Oct 15, 4:41 pm, David Pollak 
>> wrote:
>> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Viktor Klang > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > I started Scala 2 years ago by reading the Lift code.
>> > > so DPPs basically responsible for my Scala code... ;)
>> >
>> > So what you're saying is that you're all my fault... gak. ;-)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:58 AM, opyate  wrote:
>> >
>> > >> Hello,
>> >
>> > >> I bought the Scala book in PDF format (Odersky/Spoon/Venners) and
>> > >> pretty much jumped around it (benefit of PDF is the hyperlinks) for
>> > >> about a week. I am probably proficient with everything in chapters
>> > >> 1-18 which is still pretty much beginner/novice level, but I need the
>> > >> web/book before I tackle most other concepts.
>> >
>> > >> But I just wanted to get my hands dirty with a couple of apps and
>> > >> dived straight in. You learn by doing. You learn by reading someone
>> > >> else's code, which is what I've been doing a lot with the Lift
>> sources
>> > >> (I have a local Git clone, and set it up in Eclipse).
>> >
>> > >> So, in a nutshell: learn the Scala basics, and get your hands dirty.
>> > >> Open a console and faff about, then start writing apps! :-)
>> >
>> > >> What I've done so far can be found here:
>> > >>http://github.com/opyate/Ken
>> > >>http://github.com/opyate/yauser
>> >
>> > >> Happy coding!
>> > >> Juan
>> >
>> > >> On Oct 15, 6:07 am, ngocdaothanh  wrote:
>> > >> > Hi,
>> >
>> > >> > I have experience with Rails and Java. I'm new to Scala and Lift. I
>> > >> > want to ask how much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a
>> > >> > simple blog with Lift?
>> >
>> > >> > Rails is easy to learn because it require little Ruby knowledge to
>> get
>> > >> > started. Having read the Lift book, I feel one must have some
>> advanced
>> > >> > Scala knowledge to get started. Could anyone provide some kind of
>> > >> > guideline or curriculum of Scala and Lift to get started with Lift?
>> >
>> > >> > I would like to write a simple blog to learn Lift. But don't know
>> how
>> > >> > much Scala knowledge I should have to jump in Lift.
>> >
>> > >> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > > --
>> > > Viktor Klang
>> >
>> > > Blog: klangism.blogspot.com
>> > > Twttr: viktorklang
>> > > Wave: viktor.kl...@googlewave.com
>> > > Code: github.com/viktorklang
>> >
>> > > AKKA Committer - akkasource.org
>> > > Lift Committer - liftweb.com
>> > > Atmosphere Committer - atmosphere.dev.java.net
>> > > SoftPub founder:http://groups.google.com/group/softpub
>> >
>> > --
>> > Lift, the simply functional web frameworkhttp://liftweb.net
>> > Beginning Scalahttp://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890
>> > Follow me:http://twitter.com/dpp
>> > Surf the harmonics
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Lift, the simply functional web framework http://liftweb.net
> Beginning Scala http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890
> Follow me: http://twitter.com/dpp
> Surf the harmonics
>
>
>
>
> >
>


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[Lift] Re: How much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a simple blog with Lift?

2009-10-15 Thread j...@bancova.com
Beginning Scala - that is the reason I'm here.

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Ross Mellgren  wrote:

> David, do you secretly work for a brewery somewhere? It seems like you
> either grant or receive beers on a regular basis ;-)
> -Ross
>
>  On Oct 15, 2009, at 3:04 PM, David Pollak wrote:
>
>
>
>  On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Peter Robinett  > wrote:
>
>>
>> David's Beginning Scala book is fantastic: it's perfectly paced, gets
>> straight to the point, and is written in a nice voice.
>>
>
> Guess I owe you a beer for that promo :-)
>
>
>>
>> Peter Robinett
>>
>> On Oct 15, 4:41 pm, David Pollak 
>> wrote:
>> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Viktor Klang > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > I started Scala 2 years ago by reading the Lift code.
>> > > so DPPs basically responsible for my Scala code... ;)
>> >
>> > So what you're saying is that you're all my fault... gak. ;-)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>  > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:58 AM, opyate  wrote:
>> >
>> > >> Hello,
>> >
>> > >> I bought the Scala book in PDF format (Odersky/Spoon/Venners) and
>> > >> pretty much jumped around it (benefit of PDF is the hyperlinks) for
>> > >> about a week. I am probably proficient with everything in chapters
>> > >> 1-18 which is still pretty much beginner/novice level, but I need the
>> > >> web/book before I tackle most other concepts.
>> >
>> > >> But I just wanted to get my hands dirty with a couple of apps and
>> > >> dived straight in. You learn by doing. You learn by reading someone
>> > >> else's code, which is what I've been doing a lot with the Lift
>> sources
>> > >> (I have a local Git clone, and set it up in Eclipse).
>> >
>> > >> So, in a nutshell: learn the Scala basics, and get your hands dirty.
>> > >> Open a console and faff about, then start writing apps! :-)
>> >
>> > >> What I've done so far can be found here:
>> > >>http://github.com/opyate/Ken
>> > >>http://github.com/opyate/yauser
>> >
>> > >> Happy coding!
>> > >> Juan
>> >
>> > >> On Oct 15, 6:07 am, ngocdaothanh  wrote:
>> > >> > Hi,
>> >
>> > >> > I have experience with Rails and Java. I'm new to Scala and Lift. I
>> > >> > want to ask how much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a
>> > >> > simple blog with Lift?
>> >
>> > >> > Rails is easy to learn because it require little Ruby knowledge to
>> get
>> > >> > started. Having read the Lift book, I feel one must have some
>> advanced
>> > >> > Scala knowledge to get started. Could anyone provide some kind of
>> > >> > guideline or curriculum of Scala and Lift to get started with Lift?
>> >
>> > >> > I would like to write a simple blog to learn Lift. But don't know
>> how
>> > >> > much Scala knowledge I should have to jump in Lift.
>> >
>> > >> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > > --
>> > > Viktor Klang
>> >
>> > > Blog: klangism.blogspot.com
>> > > Twttr: viktorklang
>> > > Wave: viktor.kl...@googlewave.com
>> > > Code: github.com/viktorklang
>> >
>> > > AKKA Committer - akkasource.org
>> > > Lift Committer - liftweb.com
>> > > Atmosphere Committer - atmosphere.dev.java.net
>> > > SoftPub founder:http://groups.google.com/group/softpub
>> >
>> > --
>> > Lift, the simply functional web frameworkhttp://liftweb.net
>> > Beginning Scalahttp://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890
>> > Follow me:http://twitter.com/dpp
>> > Surf the harmonics
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Lift, the simply functional web framework http://liftweb.net
> Beginning Scala http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890
> Follow me: http://twitter.com/dpp
> Surf the harmonics
>
>
>
>
> >
>


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[Lift] Re: How much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a simple blog with Lift?

2009-10-15 Thread Ross Mellgren
David, do you secretly work for a brewery somewhere? It seems like you  
either grant or receive beers on a regular basis ;-)

-Ross

On Oct 15, 2009, at 3:04 PM, David Pollak wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Peter Robinett  > wrote:
>
> David's Beginning Scala book is fantastic: it's perfectly paced, gets
> straight to the point, and is written in a nice voice.
>
> Guess I owe you a beer for that promo :-)
>
>
> Peter Robinett
>
> On Oct 15, 4:41 pm, David Pollak 
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Viktor Klang  
> wrote:
> >
> > > I started Scala 2 years ago by reading the Lift code.
> > > so DPPs basically responsible for my Scala code... ;)
> >
> > So what you're saying is that you're all my fault... gak. ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:58 AM, opyate  wrote:
> >
> > >> Hello,
> >
> > >> I bought the Scala book in PDF format (Odersky/Spoon/Venners) and
> > >> pretty much jumped around it (benefit of PDF is the hyperlinks)  
> for
> > >> about a week. I am probably proficient with everything in  
> chapters
> > >> 1-18 which is still pretty much beginner/novice level, but I  
> need the
> > >> web/book before I tackle most other concepts.
> >
> > >> But I just wanted to get my hands dirty with a couple of apps and
> > >> dived straight in. You learn by doing. You learn by reading  
> someone
> > >> else's code, which is what I've been doing a lot with the Lift  
> sources
> > >> (I have a local Git clone, and set it up in Eclipse).
> >
> > >> So, in a nutshell: learn the Scala basics, and get your hands  
> dirty.
> > >> Open a console and faff about, then start writing apps! :-)
> >
> > >> What I've done so far can be found here:
> > >>http://github.com/opyate/Ken
> > >>http://github.com/opyate/yauser
> >
> > >> Happy coding!
> > >> Juan
> >
> > >> On Oct 15, 6:07 am, ngocdaothanh  wrote:
> > >> > Hi,
> >
> > >> > I have experience with Rails and Java. I'm new to Scala and  
> Lift. I
> > >> > want to ask how much Scala knowledge is needed to start  
> coding a
> > >> > simple blog with Lift?
> >
> > >> > Rails is easy to learn because it require little Ruby  
> knowledge to get
> > >> > started. Having read the Lift book, I feel one must have some  
> advanced
> > >> > Scala knowledge to get started. Could anyone provide some  
> kind of
> > >> > guideline or curriculum of Scala and Lift to get started with  
> Lift?
> >
> > >> > I would like to write a simple blog to learn Lift. But don't  
> know how
> > >> > much Scala knowledge I should have to jump in Lift.
> >
> > >> > Thanks.
> >
> > > --
> > > Viktor Klang
> >
> > > Blog: klangism.blogspot.com
> > > Twttr: viktorklang
> > > Wave: viktor.kl...@googlewave.com
> > > Code: github.com/viktorklang
> >
> > > AKKA Committer - akkasource.org
> > > Lift Committer - liftweb.com
> > > Atmosphere Committer - atmosphere.dev.java.net
> > > SoftPub founder:http://groups.google.com/group/softpub
> >
> > --
> > Lift, the simply functional web frameworkhttp://liftweb.net
> > Beginning Scalahttp://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890
> > Follow me:http://twitter.com/dpp
> > Surf the harmonics
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Lift, the simply functional web framework http://liftweb.net
> Beginning Scala http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890
> Follow me: http://twitter.com/dpp
> Surf the harmonics
>
> >


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[Lift] Re: How much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a simple blog with Lift?

2009-10-15 Thread David Pollak
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Peter Robinett wrote:

>
> David's Beginning Scala book is fantastic: it's perfectly paced, gets
> straight to the point, and is written in a nice voice.
>

Guess I owe you a beer for that promo :-)


>
> Peter Robinett
>
> On Oct 15, 4:41 pm, David Pollak 
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Viktor Klang  >wrote:
> >
> > > I started Scala 2 years ago by reading the Lift code.
> > > so DPPs basically responsible for my Scala code... ;)
> >
> > So what you're saying is that you're all my fault... gak. ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:58 AM, opyate  wrote:
> >
> > >> Hello,
> >
> > >> I bought the Scala book in PDF format (Odersky/Spoon/Venners) and
> > >> pretty much jumped around it (benefit of PDF is the hyperlinks) for
> > >> about a week. I am probably proficient with everything in chapters
> > >> 1-18 which is still pretty much beginner/novice level, but I need the
> > >> web/book before I tackle most other concepts.
> >
> > >> But I just wanted to get my hands dirty with a couple of apps and
> > >> dived straight in. You learn by doing. You learn by reading someone
> > >> else's code, which is what I've been doing a lot with the Lift sources
> > >> (I have a local Git clone, and set it up in Eclipse).
> >
> > >> So, in a nutshell: learn the Scala basics, and get your hands dirty.
> > >> Open a console and faff about, then start writing apps! :-)
> >
> > >> What I've done so far can be found here:
> > >>http://github.com/opyate/Ken
> > >>http://github.com/opyate/yauser
> >
> > >> Happy coding!
> > >> Juan
> >
> > >> On Oct 15, 6:07 am, ngocdaothanh  wrote:
> > >> > Hi,
> >
> > >> > I have experience with Rails and Java. I'm new to Scala and Lift. I
> > >> > want to ask how much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a
> > >> > simple blog with Lift?
> >
> > >> > Rails is easy to learn because it require little Ruby knowledge to
> get
> > >> > started. Having read the Lift book, I feel one must have some
> advanced
> > >> > Scala knowledge to get started. Could anyone provide some kind of
> > >> > guideline or curriculum of Scala and Lift to get started with Lift?
> >
> > >> > I would like to write a simple blog to learn Lift. But don't know
> how
> > >> > much Scala knowledge I should have to jump in Lift.
> >
> > >> > Thanks.
> >
> > > --
> > > Viktor Klang
> >
> > > Blog: klangism.blogspot.com
> > > Twttr: viktorklang
> > > Wave: viktor.kl...@googlewave.com
> > > Code: github.com/viktorklang
> >
> > > AKKA Committer - akkasource.org
> > > Lift Committer - liftweb.com
> > > Atmosphere Committer - atmosphere.dev.java.net
> > > SoftPub founder:http://groups.google.com/group/softpub
> >
> > --
> > Lift, the simply functional web frameworkhttp://liftweb.net
> > Beginning Scalahttp://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890
> > Follow me:http://twitter.com/dpp
> > Surf the harmonics
> >
>


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[Lift] Re: How much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a simple blog with Lift?

2009-10-15 Thread Peter Robinett

David's Beginning Scala book is fantastic: it's perfectly paced, gets
straight to the point, and is written in a nice voice.

Peter Robinett

On Oct 15, 4:41 pm, David Pollak 
wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Viktor Klang wrote:
>
> > I started Scala 2 years ago by reading the Lift code.
> > so DPPs basically responsible for my Scala code... ;)
>
> So what you're saying is that you're all my fault... gak. ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:58 AM, opyate  wrote:
>
> >> Hello,
>
> >> I bought the Scala book in PDF format (Odersky/Spoon/Venners) and
> >> pretty much jumped around it (benefit of PDF is the hyperlinks) for
> >> about a week. I am probably proficient with everything in chapters
> >> 1-18 which is still pretty much beginner/novice level, but I need the
> >> web/book before I tackle most other concepts.
>
> >> But I just wanted to get my hands dirty with a couple of apps and
> >> dived straight in. You learn by doing. You learn by reading someone
> >> else's code, which is what I've been doing a lot with the Lift sources
> >> (I have a local Git clone, and set it up in Eclipse).
>
> >> So, in a nutshell: learn the Scala basics, and get your hands dirty.
> >> Open a console and faff about, then start writing apps! :-)
>
> >> What I've done so far can be found here:
> >>http://github.com/opyate/Ken
> >>http://github.com/opyate/yauser
>
> >> Happy coding!
> >> Juan
>
> >> On Oct 15, 6:07 am, ngocdaothanh  wrote:
> >> > Hi,
>
> >> > I have experience with Rails and Java. I'm new to Scala and Lift. I
> >> > want to ask how much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a
> >> > simple blog with Lift?
>
> >> > Rails is easy to learn because it require little Ruby knowledge to get
> >> > started. Having read the Lift book, I feel one must have some advanced
> >> > Scala knowledge to get started. Could anyone provide some kind of
> >> > guideline or curriculum of Scala and Lift to get started with Lift?
>
> >> > I would like to write a simple blog to learn Lift. But don't know how
> >> > much Scala knowledge I should have to jump in Lift.
>
> >> > Thanks.
>
> > --
> > Viktor Klang
>
> > Blog: klangism.blogspot.com
> > Twttr: viktorklang
> > Wave: viktor.kl...@googlewave.com
> > Code: github.com/viktorklang
>
> > AKKA Committer - akkasource.org
> > Lift Committer - liftweb.com
> > Atmosphere Committer - atmosphere.dev.java.net
> > SoftPub founder:http://groups.google.com/group/softpub
>
> --
> Lift, the simply functional web frameworkhttp://liftweb.net
> Beginning Scalahttp://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890
> Follow me:http://twitter.com/dpp
> Surf the harmonics
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[Lift] Re: How much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a simple blog with Lift?

2009-10-15 Thread David Pollak
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Viktor Klang wrote:

> I started Scala 2 years ago by reading the Lift code.
> so DPPs basically responsible for my Scala code... ;)


So what you're saying is that you're all my fault... gak. ;-)


>
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:58 AM, opyate  wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I bought the Scala book in PDF format (Odersky/Spoon/Venners) and
>> pretty much jumped around it (benefit of PDF is the hyperlinks) for
>> about a week. I am probably proficient with everything in chapters
>> 1-18 which is still pretty much beginner/novice level, but I need the
>> web/book before I tackle most other concepts.
>>
>> But I just wanted to get my hands dirty with a couple of apps and
>> dived straight in. You learn by doing. You learn by reading someone
>> else's code, which is what I've been doing a lot with the Lift sources
>> (I have a local Git clone, and set it up in Eclipse).
>>
>> So, in a nutshell: learn the Scala basics, and get your hands dirty.
>> Open a console and faff about, then start writing apps! :-)
>>
>> What I've done so far can be found here:
>> http://github.com/opyate/Ken
>> http://github.com/opyate/yauser
>>
>> Happy coding!
>> Juan
>>
>> On Oct 15, 6:07 am, ngocdaothanh  wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I have experience with Rails and Java. I'm new to Scala and Lift. I
>> > want to ask how much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a
>> > simple blog with Lift?
>> >
>> > Rails is easy to learn because it require little Ruby knowledge to get
>> > started. Having read the Lift book, I feel one must have some advanced
>> > Scala knowledge to get started. Could anyone provide some kind of
>> > guideline or curriculum of Scala and Lift to get started with Lift?
>> >
>> > I would like to write a simple blog to learn Lift. But don't know how
>> > much Scala knowledge I should have to jump in Lift.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Viktor Klang
>
> Blog: klangism.blogspot.com
> Twttr: viktorklang
> Wave: viktor.kl...@googlewave.com
> Code: github.com/viktorklang
>
> AKKA Committer - akkasource.org
> Lift Committer - liftweb.com
> Atmosphere Committer - atmosphere.dev.java.net
> SoftPub founder: http://groups.google.com/group/softpub
>
>
> >
>


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[Lift] Re: How much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a simple blog with Lift?

2009-10-15 Thread Timothy Perrett

+1

Although i've also learnt a lot from n8han's dispatch library - that  
thing is freaking immense.

Cheers, Tim

On 15 Oct 2009, at 12:18, Viktor Klang wrote:

> I started Scala 2 years ago by reading the Lift code.
> so DPPs basically responsible for my Scala code... ;)


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[Lift] Re: How much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a simple blog with Lift?

2009-10-15 Thread Viktor Klang
I started Scala 2 years ago by reading the Lift code.
so DPPs basically responsible for my Scala code... ;)

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:58 AM, opyate  wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> I bought the Scala book in PDF format (Odersky/Spoon/Venners) and
> pretty much jumped around it (benefit of PDF is the hyperlinks) for
> about a week. I am probably proficient with everything in chapters
> 1-18 which is still pretty much beginner/novice level, but I need the
> web/book before I tackle most other concepts.
>
> But I just wanted to get my hands dirty with a couple of apps and
> dived straight in. You learn by doing. You learn by reading someone
> else's code, which is what I've been doing a lot with the Lift sources
> (I have a local Git clone, and set it up in Eclipse).
>
> So, in a nutshell: learn the Scala basics, and get your hands dirty.
> Open a console and faff about, then start writing apps! :-)
>
> What I've done so far can be found here:
> http://github.com/opyate/Ken
> http://github.com/opyate/yauser
>
> Happy coding!
> Juan
>
> On Oct 15, 6:07 am, ngocdaothanh  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have experience with Rails and Java. I'm new to Scala and Lift. I
> > want to ask how much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a
> > simple blog with Lift?
> >
> > Rails is easy to learn because it require little Ruby knowledge to get
> > started. Having read the Lift book, I feel one must have some advanced
> > Scala knowledge to get started. Could anyone provide some kind of
> > guideline or curriculum of Scala and Lift to get started with Lift?
> >
> > I would like to write a simple blog to learn Lift. But don't know how
> > much Scala knowledge I should have to jump in Lift.
> >
> > Thanks.
>
> >
>


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Blog: klangism.blogspot.com
Twttr: viktorklang
Wave: viktor.kl...@googlewave.com
Code: github.com/viktorklang

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[Lift] Re: How much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a simple blog with Lift?

2009-10-15 Thread opyate

Hello,

I bought the Scala book in PDF format (Odersky/Spoon/Venners) and
pretty much jumped around it (benefit of PDF is the hyperlinks) for
about a week. I am probably proficient with everything in chapters
1-18 which is still pretty much beginner/novice level, but I need the
web/book before I tackle most other concepts.

But I just wanted to get my hands dirty with a couple of apps and
dived straight in. You learn by doing. You learn by reading someone
else's code, which is what I've been doing a lot with the Lift sources
(I have a local Git clone, and set it up in Eclipse).

So, in a nutshell: learn the Scala basics, and get your hands dirty.
Open a console and faff about, then start writing apps! :-)

What I've done so far can be found here:
http://github.com/opyate/Ken
http://github.com/opyate/yauser

Happy coding!
Juan

On Oct 15, 6:07 am, ngocdaothanh  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have experience with Rails and Java. I'm new to Scala and Lift. I
> want to ask how much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a
> simple blog with Lift?
>
> Rails is easy to learn because it require little Ruby knowledge to get
> started. Having read the Lift book, I feel one must have some advanced
> Scala knowledge to get started. Could anyone provide some kind of
> guideline or curriculum of Scala and Lift to get started with Lift?
>
> I would like to write a simple blog to learn Lift. But don't know how
> much Scala knowledge I should have to jump in Lift.
>
> Thanks.

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[Lift] Re: How much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a simple blog with Lift?

2009-10-15 Thread Timothy Perrett

Hi there,

Personally, when I came to Lift over 2 years ago I knew no scala what- 
so-ever. Knowing scala is a real bonus, but everyone has to start  
somewhere right?  I would suggest just wading in, and see how you get  
on - there will be a learning curve but this is a very friendly group  
and has some rich archives full of information to help you on your way.

Good luck!

Cheers, Tim

On 15 Oct 2009, at 06:07, ngocdaothanh wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I have experience with Rails and Java. I'm new to Scala and Lift. I
> want to ask how much Scala knowledge is needed to start coding a
> simple blog with Lift?
>
> Rails is easy to learn because it require little Ruby knowledge to get
> started. Having read the Lift book, I feel one must have some advanced
> Scala knowledge to get started. Could anyone provide some kind of
> guideline or curriculum of Scala and Lift to get started with Lift?
>
> I would like to write a simple blog to learn Lift. But don't know how
> much Scala knowledge I should have to jump in Lift.
>
> Thanks.
>
> >
>


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